Yu's Subjugation of the Miao 平定三苗 | Chinese History - The Xia Dynasty E02 

Thanks brother for telling the history of Hmong/Miao people. I have been looking everywhere for real history of Hmong/Miao people for a long time but never found anything that seems accurate. Much, much appreciated for this video you made!

Miao is the only people that still exists mentioned in the Classic of Mountains and Seas,The only one.

I don't know much about Miao history as I just started digging into my people's past. It's all very fascinating to reconnect and put together the bits and pieces back to make sense of Miao history. Thank you for putting this short lesson together.

The history of a long lost, I am very appreciating for you to post in RU-vid.

Great work! I love your passion for history

thanks for making this video as I have a big fascination of this era

Thank you for the video

This was so fascinating. Thank you for your wonderful videos about the Miao. I'm Hmong living in America but we still remember much about what happened in China from the stories and songs of our ancestors. New sub and fan🙏👍😁

I'm Hmong and I have no ill will against the Chinese people I love learning about our history :)

Thank you for this.

Thank you for your efforts brother 🙏

Thanks for the video.

Thank you so much for sharing a neutral standpoint of the history of China and the Miao. I wrote a paper regarding Hmong funeral traditions and when the souls are called back to their true origin, I read a few resources indicating that they are called back to their homeland in China. Being Hmong myself, I tried looking into Chinese history and their relationship with the Miao and was not able to find anything substantial other than they did not have a good relationship. I think this information will allow the displaced Hmong generation to understand their history. Thank you!

Amazing work

This is just legend. Da Yu did not subjugate the Miao. He had a war with the Miao leaders and that's it. If he did subjugate the Miao as history stated, the Miao people would not be here today and would have been fully assimilated into the Han culture. Those Miao people that lived near the Han are mostly the ones that got assimilated.

I love history. Thank you for the informative video.

I thank you and respectfully well said , i would encourage others to listen to this truthfully. 😊

So happy I found your channel... I'm hmong and would love to hear more❤ thank you.

I just found you, your channel and this video. Liked and subscribed. Thank you for this summary. Planning to binge your videos. More on the Miao please. PS The link to read more on your website isn't working. Maybe your page was move and I'll find out in later videos. Thank you for the work.

I'm Miao American. Your channel is very useful.

Thanks for all that you do. I study history in College and would like to know more about my great great great great great great great great Chinese grandpa. Eventhough I am Hmong I know that I have Han blood. As asian we need to understand one another. Appreciate your work! Looking forward to learning more from you.

Thank you for the history lesson

Hey I’m Hmong and a lot of lost history I would just like to hear about history of the Hmong people … many elders say that we were descendants of chi you… I very interested in where we came from thank you for the great information

Thanks for the stories! Were some of them passed down verbally among Hmong/Miao people?

The video was awesome but it would be better if you had a map showing where everything took place.

Seemed fire from sky and snow is a good description of big volcanic eruption and ash blocking out sun.

I would love to see you do a "Simple warrior dance" one day.

can you tell me...what happened to the movie.... the hero chiyou? suppose to have came out 6 or 7 years ago.

It is a good thing, not shying away from showing our or our people's past bad behavior. It reminds everyone that we're all basically the same and it helps in staying away from an "Us vs/ them" vision.

Possible for you to find ancient history about the Yao ( Iu Mien/Mien ) ? Not sure if there’s much story to tell but since you seem knowledgeable about Chinese ancient history Im sure you can find out.

Which group are the Miao in the game Dynasty Warriors? Lol just curious.

They said they have history and genetics going back over 8000 years.

Could you do a video on the Miao King Chiyou?

I have a question, on some Vietnamese hmong channels they call other ethnicity also miao except add a different ending to it. Would this say that "miao" would really mean "race". Like, this is the "miao tzu" "hmong race". There is "miao tai" and others.

Why Hmong people up in here getting all fussy? This guy is just doing his best to recount oral history since most texts and writing about Chinese history got wiped out by regime takeovers throughout time. Sure, Han Chinese did horrible things to Miao people, but Han Chinese also fought against other Han Chinese throughout history. Miao people likely did the same to other Miao people. Some Han Chinese also helped out other Miao people from other Han Chinese. Just because some centralized power like an imperial government gave the orders to do bad things, does not mean all the people who are ruled by them are bad too. You do realize that modern Hmong people have Han Chinese ancestry as well, so you are hating on one side of your lineages. Today, we have the privilege to be more educated than our ancestors, so please don't make the same mistakes they have made just because it offends you. Realize that ethnic purity is a fantasy only the ignorant aspire to become.

There are Han also came from Chiyou or Jiu Li tribe as well. People must know that Han is not a pure ethnicity. They are emerging ethnicity that came into as one.

During Xia, there is no written record (found yet). How can you come up with the story?

Good contribution to the miao people from the beginning of the miao history remained in China my great grandpa alway told me about miao folks song we immigrated from the yellow river far east to indo china and then by the vietnam war stands still talking about like another Manchu or chinese war within the country with the miao people in the battle field since i now lived in the U.S as the Hmong people today around the world we are the miao people and hmong people we worship the ancestors and shamanism or taoism ☯️ we believed Thanks for sharing the miao-Hmong history remained in China 🇨🇳 ❤❤❤

Thank You for sharing Api Ngo, this is very informative for the young millenniums generations Y/Z of Hmong/Miao born here in the United States. I’ve just found out that the Miao are located in Province of Guizhou, in a city called Kaili in China. But there are other Miaos spread elsewhere in Guizhou as well. In addition, if you get the chance, you may check out the movie “The Hero Chiyou” aka “Zhanshen Chiyou”. It’s probably one of the first movie from China that presents the Miao in an historical action film, which is a positive thing. Here in USA, the younger generations of Hmong/Miao only hears fairy tales of ChiYou only, no documented film or movie about him. Nonetheless, love the history!! Keep up the great Work 🙏🏻 and God Bless!

Hi I'm a fan of history and became fan of the Chinese history I really love it I'm actually from Egypt but Italian background study etc. My religion has talked about a population that its called ya gog and Mia gog would this name rappresent something or people that hade existed in the past and they were strong warriors.

Tôi ở Việt Nam tôi không biết tiếng Anh.Bạn có thể dịch ra tiếng Việt không.

My thought is really that the Han, more or less, during thousands of years of imperialism, subjugated all who resisted them throughout the land. It's a possibility that the Miao played more important roles in the uprisings therefore were more sought after and penalized. Most minorities anywhere on earth throughout history were subjected to discrimination and taken advantages of. Their livelihood were taken away so the only option they had was to revolt. I'm glad China won the cultural revolution and gave the power back to the people; the disadvantaged people had been taken advantage of for far too long.

老师， 您的本书怎么买 ？

Well done Sir. Very informative and well delivered. And if your just getting started it's already a good standard. I came to this as I'm trying to improve my Chinese by listening to CCTVs 中国通史/ChinaHistory 百集历史纪录片. Some of the content is propaganda (especially episode 1 that nearly made me throw up on my screen ), and it makes me a bit mad at times listening to such bias, but much is very informative. In episode 4 I came across the 三苗. After searching what this was really about I came across your site. I will now check out more stuff you have done. As you say in comments. Historians should try to be objective. For people living in mainland China they are fed a diet of fairly extreme nationalism now. It's sad. I am so interested in Chinese language History. Art. Philosophy etc. But having lived the last ten years in mainland China I can say I honestly have never had any interest in modern contemporary mainstream society. With all this vast heritage we are reduced to one position. Sad.

Can you explain why some Hanful and Hmong/Miao have the same last name? Also worship the same god of war Chi You. Liu/Lor Bang the first king of Han Dynasty worship Chi You as god of war. For the Hmong/miao they're the descendants of Chi You clan. Before 1949 Chinese have 10 official languages and out of those 10 languages. Hmong/Miao languages is most relate to mandarin. 45 to 50% of Hmong/Miao languages is make of mandarin.

We were rebels and out laws , westside till I die thug life ! California ya !

Chinese histories and Miao histories have a lot in common...we are the same..it's just that Miao speak a different dialiage...this is what happens when too many asains live together..

Would you happen to have historical findings about Miao and Koreans? Heard through a Korean elder that they have some mixings as well as Native American Indians. Would you know anything about this?

The reason why the mystical beasts came to aid the Miaos was because the beasts were the reincarnation of their brothers and sisters.

I am 70 years old and I have always been proud to be Han Chinese, until my daughters did a DNA test and then found out that we are only 60% Han Chinese, 30% Vietnamese and 10% Dai. We are all inter-related some how.

There are archaic Chinese words the Hmongs still use which still hold their original meaning. Here is a few(there is more): 破(broken) 娘(mom) 英(flower(poppy))

I would like to know where you get your sources because I believe the Ming drastically changed many ancient sources when republishing old works. Thank you brother

Miao anchestor was Ancient Han (Sino Tibetan) of Eastern Qinghai Plateu that came down to Yellow River Valley and to Yang Tze River Valley.

Just until recently as 50 years ago, the Hmong/Miao was still being genocide by the PatheLaos in SE Asia. Just because they were fighting on the side of America and when communist took over. They were order to hunt them to extinct. We had endured and survived these kinds of hardships but it is part of history now. Some of us who still remember Laos do know exactly what your story is saying. Because even in ancient times, it was not much different and these stories were told by the elders like folklore to the next generation. Not only that but also in our embroidery on our clothes. I also wonder since there is no proof now, but just from hearing from some of the elders... they say it was easy for the Han Chinese to pick a Hmong out due to their appearance. They have a lighter appearance more like caucasian. If you go to Northern Thailand, foreigners would ask if they are Chinese since they are from China. Thai would say no because their hair is lighter... Every now and then, this blond gene in our people will appear in some families who still carried the gene and they have kids that look like a white person. Only a few still have this gene in them, most have been mixed with Han Chinese... Thank you for the awesome story of the history of my people.

I am Hmong and I heard so many gossip and fairytales about how bad of the Chinese did to us Hmong n Miao ethnicity people back then. But as I look at us n see us at this current generation, from china to Thailand to Laos and to the USA on how we are. I don’t want to elaborate n say what i see n how I think about us but do you have anything about if the Chinese kept any written history about us of how we live n our interest. Because I keep seeing n hearing that we don’t have any written history because the china won’t allow it or because the Chinese government burn it. Is there some truth to it. the way I see how we live n practice n carry ourselves. I have some doubt about that.

I'm not too sure where you got the facts or myth about the total annihilation of their military like genocide in the battle you mentioned towards end of video. The meow people were always fierce and competitive opposition to the Chinese military wise, hence it's declaration of cleansing of the meow people's, even until as recent as 2004 or 2005 and in the early 90s the, excavation of the meow people's graves through out the many refugee camps around the country of Thailand and Laos. The meow won many battles and also lost many, ultimately lost the last due to their own back stabbing and ended up being forced out of China into neighboring countries starting around early 1800s, especially to the northern province of Laos, Vietnam, and Thailand. The meow people are very independent mind set people and does not like to be conquered, they fight and rebellious because of tax exploitation and mistreatments.

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Mandate of Heaven, wasn't that developed under the Zhou Dynasty to legitimize their claim and rule? The Zhou defeated the Shang dynasty and had no claim. They develop the concept that a good king gets its right to rule from heaven, and heaven can give that right to anyone. Like Liu Bang, who founded the Hans dynaaty. He was a commoner. I think Yu the Great would have not prayed to heaven, but to his ancestral gods, city god, ancestors, and spirits.

There is claim that the Xia-dynasty 17. members and last ruler Jie and his son Shun Wei was the founding father of the Xiongnu or early Hun people!

Is this before king Chiyu of Miao people or after his time did this subjugation start beginning of them being a people of no lands and no country.

Why are Miao-Yao, Hmong-Mien lump together?

My mom told me that the word miao originated in Laos and that it was adopted by the chinese. She told me that miao was a derrogative term used by the laotion people against the hmong people because they didn't like them. My mom said miao is a laotion word and that the chinese never had a word like that before adopting it from the laotion people. However I can't tell you if it's true or not cause she also said we were the "good" hmong people and the hmong people who fought China was the "bad" hmong people. There were two distinct tribes. Northern hmong tribe and the southern hmong tribe. The southern hmong tribe rebelled against China while the northern did not. She also sprinkled in the word "France" in there too but I forgot what she was talking about. It doesn't make sense but just thought I should put what my mom told me out there to debate and talk about. My mom says even till this day when we do rituals or spiritual cleansings we still use chinese words. I'm the west its called shamanism. Its really confusing but hopefully this brings something to talk about at the table. Thanks for the cool video about my people. I found it strange how we didn't have a history like every other nation does. It is super odd we didn't have our own written language until the vietnam war when the cia taught us their alphabets. We must have been one of the few remaining people on earth who didn't have a written language nby the 20th century. And even then it's just borrowed alphabets from United States like ABC. I don't know anything about how hmong people came to be but the fact that something as significant as, a written language wasn't established until the tail end of the late 20th centuries really conerns me. Was our culture really tossed in flames like people say? Genocide? I can't believe it. How awful. And now that the uhgur people are being mass eliminated too and being taken to concentration camps I am more leaning on the side that China really did do those things to us in the past. Even today there are ongoing tensions between Taiwan and China. China believes Taiwan belongs to China even though they clearly state that they are not chinese and do not belong to China. They have their own laws, government and even currency yet China keeps saying Taiwan is their land. Its really creepy. When I say "China" I mean the ccp and the people in power. From what youtuber serpentza and laowhy86 say it's not the citizens who are bad but it is the government and people in power who are corrupted. I have chinese friends in Sacramento, California and I love them to death.

Tell us the princess story. Same miao people. Her father arrange a marriage that she refused. She was like Mulan

There's always two sides to the story. This was the time where the language, book, everything about the Miao people was burned. Even killed innocent Miao boys so that they don't rise up against them. Damage was done to both sides. Whoever learn of the language was put to death. One China, One people. One King. One Ruler. One Language. One army.

lost due to bad luck. that suck.

With the pattern of the last 3 major Miao rebellion in the 1800s; and in Laos against the French and Pathet Lao, my ancestors just doesn't seem to get it. There was lack of support every uprising, since it's human nature to avoid conflict when unjust rule does not affect you personally. But 5000 years of losses with every inch of land taken and things repeating in Laos is just pathetic. I'm surprised Han-expansion didn't stretch all of southeast Asia until my ancestors had nowhere else to run. What's the point in desiring independence when the majority of them would not fight for it.

You are hmong people living abroad and you are foreigners. . The Miao and Han people in China almost have the same origin. In ancient times, the three major tribes in the Yellow River Basin, the Yandi tribe and the huangdi tribe, united to form the Han people, so the Han people called themselves descendants of Yan and Huang. The leader of another tribe was Chi You, who was defeated by the coalition forces of the emperor and Emperor Yan. And this tribe began to migrate southward to form the Miao tribe. This happened three thousand years ago. The Miao people are one of the most patriotic ethnic minorities. They will always be Chinese.

Meio is not what they're call . Which the origin name is swordwind people

Xia Dynasty were suppose to be the sanxingdui who are the Yi people, which is suppose to be Hmong/Miao rival enemies

The subjegation of the Miao people by the various Chinese empires are nothing short of Genocide. The sole reason for the genocide of the Miao is for social and economic dominance. The Miao just wanted to be left alone to farm their lands. But the Chinese empires keep pushing them farther and farther south. If not for these Genocides over thousands of years, today the Miao people would number at least 50 million people, not the 15 million in existance today. When I hear the Chinese say they suffered a century of humiliation, I say its karma for your crimes. Furthermore, your empire was taken over and ruled by another minority group the Manchus, and you had your cut your precious hair into a pigtail.

There is so much i would like to exchange with you.

What does Api Ngo mean ?

Hmong people RN: "I'm Hmong too"

I did a DNA test, Chiyou, Huangdi & Yandi are three of my ancestors we are now part of them.

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The comments and threats coming from the ignorant Hmong folks on here are embarrassing. It’s 2021 and ya are still ignorant. Please grow up. But Great video. I enjoyed it. 👍🏼

Hmong and miao is not the same thing. If it makes you guys any happier, hmong are probably a branch from the miao people. I think we all are descendants of chi you but split into many tribes and now chinese just call all us miao. Hmong must be one of those tribe from the direct descendants of chi you. There are many different types of miao people.

Is Miao same as Baio?

Hua Yuanjia was probably Miao

苗族都是中国人，汉人苗人是最亲的兄弟姐妹。

I'm proud to be hmong....even we don't have a country........

smart enough to know people don't speak chinese but not smart enough to know that those same people don't have a clue about the topography of china. maybe put up a map next time.

Why China don't like Miao are they austronesian

Hmong / Mong people are confused. The Miao people this dude is talking about does not pertaining to Mong /Hmong people. Han Chinese themselves are closer related to the Ancient San Miao culturally. Han Chinese themselves during Shu-Han dynasty worship ChiYou. Even today Southern Han people still have ChiYou mask. This particular culture is not part of Mong / Hmong. Mong / Hmong are Shamanism. HuangTi is not Han Chinese but a false claim as Han much later. Han as a culture only exists 220bc +-. HuangTi is actually Mong/ Hmong ancestry than Han Chinese who claimed others histories. There are only four periods we could verify as Han people, HanGou, Shu-Han, Ming and today Han Chinese. The Miao this dude is talking about belong to the Ancient Yi people who reside at the Huai River. Genetically the people who reside at the Huai River belong to Haplogroup O1 and culturally they are still closer related to Hanese culture and Yi, Dai, Zhuang, Cantonese, Thainese, Vietnamese, Koreanese, Japanese, you get the picture all the ese people. There are no evidence to support that ancient Miao are Mong / Hmong who reside at the Yellow River. There also no support evidence that the Mong / Hmong people migrated that early past the Han River but it was the Shu people who migrated to the Han River and merged with the Ancient Yi people. During the HuaXia period and became HanGou at the Han River. They call themselves Han as people who are manly. Han literally can be translated as manly or mighty. Example Han River (Mighty River). Majorities of the Mong / Hmong people only migrated down during Ming dynasty. After Yuan dynasty Mong / Hmong who took part with the Mongol (MengGu in Han Chinese) did migrated out of Nanjing to Guizhou, Yunnan. If you go to China and ask the Dai and Zhuang people they will tell you the Han Chinese actually migrated to the Yangtze River before the Mong / Hmong people. So this dude is simply story telling only. Shouldn't take it as historical fact.

the problem is culture

I've got no problem with Chinese but I dislike hypocrisy. As the current China is upset at Japan for ww2. It's like (dude China yall did the same to get that much land too, you can't be mad its almost like what goes around comes around) agian I got nothing to be upset about but it's like that you can't be mad someone get ya. Just saying

1. Miao is a negative terminology. 2. If you're not Hmong, you would only hear this story in this video and believe it. If you're Hmong you actually hear a different story. There were betrayal and harassments of the Hmong people, they just want to live in peace but the fight for land ensued which forces Hmong people to fight for their land which they ultimately lost due to betrayal. That's how or why you still hear the 'hero' in Hmong legend or talks that will come back and save the Hmong people from their oppressive ruler that's ruling their land. I appreciate the warning at the beginning of the video but the foretelling by you Mr. Api is very bland and doesn't give much context. 3. The Hmong folks kind of won at the end, well it depends if you think it 'won' or not. Cuz China today is ruled by Communism or the CCP. The CCP only existed cuz the Hmong helped the Chinese leader Mao Zedong during his escape in the mountains where he recovered and came back to China and turned it into Communism. Since the event happened, Mao Zedong helped uplift Hmong people for their generosity.

Miao people are the truth between the heavens and earth . The Hmong people .

Chinese called Hmong people (Miao).

Saya orang Melayu Kelantan ,kami pun orang Hmong/miao. .

HMONG IS NOT WHAT WE CALL. MIAO MEANS CAT, JUST ANOTHER NEGATIVITIES IN 2021

This is China view and guess of the Hmong peoples.which is not facts.

拿神话故事当历史？