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This video does not consider wild, it is when the card was in standard.

8 months later, Pure Paladin is nuts and The Countess is good.

Stevie is like a fungus, he's growing on me. He did a great job as a guest. I respect his decisiveness and confidence on his card analysis.

0:31 "you should probably read the card" Rarran using environmental storytelling to demonstrate that he isn't a Yu-gi-oh player

Seeing Rarran's closure at Stevie wildly misevaluating cards instead of the reverse is very funny

Well, the reason why Reno the Relicologist saw play was because of Zephrys. People thought Reno would be weak because Reno's effect wasn't enough to justify running highlander. But Zephrys, which was revealed later, was good enough to play highlander (even in classes with no other highlander support). And if you're already playing a highlander deck, obviously you put Reno in it.

It's a shame we didn't see Stevie's reaction to Renathal, i think any YGO player would wince at that card lmao

I know Wild isnt taken into consideration, but when Rarram said "Shark is horrible" I had so many pillager rogue flashbacks 😳

Imagine if Nozdormu was in standard at the same time as Guff, you could use it to decrease their crystals. Niche and tech as hell, but I bet funny as hell.

I feel like Rarran completely forgot about Cheese Paladin, which is what made Nozdormu so good (thanks to the murloc that draws a dragon), as well as put High Priestess over the top (thanks to Tip the Scales)

It’s a shame rarran doesn’t have much wild knowledge. Shark has been an amazing card in wild for a long time, currently crushing in pillager rogue

A little bit unfair to call countess a bad card just because paladin is bad right now. It's consistently a top performer in a very underpowered deck and it's odd to conflate a card's power with the entire class's strength.

One thing that seems to have been omitted from the conversation about Nozdormu and Allura is that what made them so crazy to play against was |TIP THE SCALES|. When you played Nozdormu on 4 (3 with coin), it doesn't matter what your opponent would do on their first turn with 10 mana, on your next turn, you summoned 7 rush murlocs from your deck, drew 7 cards, and had 20/20 worth of stats left over. Then once that was done, you dropped 10 mana taunts and rush poisonous beasts, topping the deck off with a N'zoth that resummoned all of it again. People also didn't realize that Tip the scales worked really well with Allura. When you got the coin or ran a 2 drop that gave you a 1 mana spell, you very often just won on turn 5 because the only spell in your deck for Allura to cast was Tip the Scales, doing the same thing but now your opponent only has 5 mana to clear your board of 7 murlocs lol. There were also low curve (murloc) minions that drew a dragon and one of like 2 dragons in the deck was Nozdormu, so it was super easy to hit one of these two options on curve every game -- far outweighing any variance in whiffs of these two cards.

I really liked seeing the inverse logic applying. Especially with Nozdormu. In all the previous episodes Rarran would often use the phrase "in a deck built for this" which was the case for Nozdormu, but any Yu-gi-oh player would view that effect as terrifying because of how quickly you could die or get locked out handing over that much advantage for just one turn.

Spirit of the shark is actually really good in wild (pillager combo)

I'm really enjoying this series! Both the players reacting to hearthstone and you reacting to other card games!

Such a big fan of this duo! Love seeing other card game players react to broken combos for the first time

Tbf, there were quite a number of pro-players that considered Rafaam bait. If I remember correctly the card had an abysmal winrate when played both on ladder and in tournaments and the deck had an overall higher winrate without it.

stevie knew countess was gonna pop off

There was a version of Murloc Paladin during Darkmoon Faire that ran High Abbess Alura (with coin) or Nozdormu to cheat out Tip the Scales, an 8-mana spell (the only spell in the deck) that summoned 7 random murlocs from your deck. You then also used a menagerie package + N'Zoth, and Carnival Clowns + Y'Shaarj to summon multiple giant boards throughout the game. The deck was super oppressive so they nerfed Alura to 5 mana.

Alura was nerfed because of tip the scales shananigans. There used to be this highroll deck with the 4 mana 8/8 nozdormu and alura/murloc package that was really toxic to play against...

I think it would be interesting to include, even just as a footnote as to whether or not the card sees play in Wild where the card pool is significantly larger. Maybe that takes too much work to establish on the backend, but cards like Shark are definitely playable in certain wild decks, wheras something like Alura basically hasn't seen play since rotation.

I LOVE the dynamic you and Stevie have man, here’s hoping you guys continue to make videos together! ^^

tfw stevie just predicts the rise of pure paladin

Rarran, you're an excellent host for collabs like this! Always puts me in a good mood

I think they missed that risky skipper was almost never played on turn 1. It always happened on like turn 5 or 6

Seeing stevie taking the trolling in stride after his joy at doing it to Rarran brings joy

I am not saying it is good, but I loved playing Spirit of the Shark in Lackey Jade Rogue. Just some silly effects like using that no one expects, like using an unearthed rapter to get two copies of a "summon a Jade" deathrattle, then triggering the deathrattles twice with your weapon to ramp out like six jades in one turn was really fun.

The fact that risky skipper itself allowed Warrior to fight prime DH makes it the best card warrior has ever received and ontop of the fact you gain like ridiculous amounts of armor just off the whole play

I actually think Wild is a better measure of the power of cards. In Standard you can have great cards that seem weak because the right synergies don't exist or the deck as a whole is just bad. It's in Wild that you can truly see the potential of cards. A good example would be Neptulon. Similarly some cards that are really terrible see play in Standard because there are no other alternatives, such as Wild Growth.

This series has turned out to be better than actually playing Hearthstone itself

good example is the countess, where just 2 months later it was pretty good in pure paladin and pure paladin is currently according to hs replay top 1000 a tier 2 deck with over 50% wr. still fun video!

I feel like he explained alura and nozdormu poorly. They were mana cheat decks at their best, too slow once nerfed. It all hinged on two card combo's, key defensive cards at the top end, and lack of burn at the time. The cards are weak overall.

pure paladin is tier 4 deck... now its a tier 1 with a 50+% wr

Bro I just realized Nozdormu the Timeless is basically a 9-drop 8/8 that accelerates time. Just like the original card. In a weird way. Because it's like turn 9 just happened on turn 4.

4 months later and I've started playing Hearthstone again. One of the three decks I've been running is Pure Paladin with The Countess in it. I've had games where I just play her and the enemy surrenders. That being said I can imagine at the time of the video it really wasn't great, but the most recent expansion has added a lot of really nice cards to Paladin. Even if it hasn't made Pure Pally one of the best in the meta, I've had a lot of fun with the deck.

Spirit of the shark was actually strong with lackeys, Togwaggle etc. back in the day

I really like the dynamic you have with @Stevie Blunder, you guys have really good chemistry.

I think Rarran is remembering a lot of old cards wrong. Big Paladin was never a good deck, so Noz wasn't that strong. Rafaam was in a world champion deck because the meta didn't settle at the time (submissions were a week after Witchwood expansion release) and quickly fell out of zoolock. Allura was toxic due to Tip the Scales as the 3rd option to primordial lens

Well with the most recent string of complaints I believe that the Wild Format should be considered in these evaluations!

Can’t blame him for the miss on Reno. Highlander decks are pretty unique to HS and would want another board clear (esp with a body attached)

Stevie actually really knows his Hearthstone. He probably knows more old cards than Rarran.

Rarren, you play Wild, do you? "Pillager Rogue" do you know this deck? Spirit of the Shark is the whole combo enabler. D:

3:50 bad? Wtf every rogue was playing this card in the past and she was solo winning games

This uno reverse card situation was funny. I play more Yugioh than Hearthstone, but I do know both, so this was an entertaining watch. ...hopefully this is the start of even more exchange of fire, as you both undergo an arms race of finding the best mindgames to gaslight each other. Cards that look great in a vacuum, cards that had unintuitive and powerful interactions, sometimes a genuinely good or bad looking card just to not make them TOO obvious... fun times. xD

I can't explain how happy the Conker's Bad Fur Day music in the background makes me. I would watch any video with that jam going on.

More reacts from you two! You're both amazing and so fun to watch, thank you for these videos. Much love

Shark was broken in tempo rogue in the specialist/lackey meta lol

I would like to add for Skipper the versatility. One damage off of board clear? Play a minion. Need to bridge two removals? Play a minion. Need one more amrour or card? Play a minion. It did so much by doing just one thing based on all the other cards around it.

spirit of the shark is so powerful in wild

I appreciate the explaining the hearthstone keywords. I've watched you since Snnuy colab and no idea what that stuff means

22:00 Strongest warrior card we've ever seen is definitely Warsong Commander. It used to give every minion charge for 3 mana.

6:32 Omg, I just realized. 4 mana Nozdormu can counter Guff druid (and also that other minion, both players' mana crystal is now 5)

Love these videos! Has gotten me into card games again, and not just Hearthstone!

I know you say you're not considering wild, but when you show bad standard cards that are strong in wild like spirit and Nozdormu, it hurts my soul when you just say theyre bad lol

Love it, these are by far my favorite videos. Keep it up!

Lets see if i can make these into yugioh card effects. How'd i do lol? Monster: Reno the Relicologist: If you have no duplicate cards in your deck, deal 1000 damage to your opponent for every monster on their side of the field. Type: Spellcaster, Level 6, ATK: 2400 DEF: 1600 Spell Card: Spirit of the Shark: Once per duel, you can activate the effects of all monsters on your side of the field twice, you then take 500 points of damage each time an effect is activated for a second time Monster: High Abbess Alura: Once per turn, send a Spell card from your deck to the GY, and if it was an equip spell, you can equip it to this card. Type: Spellcaster, Level 4, ATK: 1350 DEF: 1600 Monster: Nozdormu the Timeless: As long as this card is on the field, both player's hand limit is 10. Type: Dragon Level 4, ATK: 850 DEF: 1800 Monster: Arch-Villain Rafaam: When summoned, you can swap monsters in your main deck and hand with monsters from your extra deck and as long as this card remains on the field, ignore all summoning conditions of your XYZ, Synchro, Link and Fusion Monsters. Type: Fiend, Level 7, ATK: 2700 DEF: 1850 (LOL) Monster: Il'gynoth: As long as this card remains face-up on the field, whenever a spell or trap card is activate that increases your life points, instead target one monster on your opponent's side of the field and decrease the attack of that monster by that amount. Type: Fiend, Level 4, ATK: 200 DEF: 1650 Monster: Maxima Blastenheimer: Once per turn, you can special summon one monster from your deck, and sacrifice it to destroy one of your opponent's monsters. This card can't attack after using this effect. Type: Warrior, Level 6:, ATK: 1400 DEF: 2400 Monster: The Countess: If your deck has no normal monsters, you can add 3 Legendary Invitations from your deck to your hand. Type: Zombie, Level 7, ATK: 2700 DEF: 700 Spell: Legendary Invitation: You can special summon one level 7 or higher monster from your hand, but you can't normal summon for the rest of the turn Monster: Risky Skipper: While this card is on the field, when you normal summon a monster, decrease the attack of all monsters on your opponent's side of the field by 1000. Type: Warrior, Level 1, ATK: 1000 DEF: 350 Spell: Incanter's Flow (Continuous): Whenever you activate a spell card where you pay life points, you only pay half the cost to activate Monster: Bad Luck Albatross: Flip: When this card is flipped face up, shuffle 2 Albatross (Normal/Winged-Beast, Level 1, ATK: 0 Def: 0) into your opponent's deck, when they draw an Albatross, they take 1000 points of damage. Type: Winged-Beast, Level 3, ATK 400 Def: 2300

28:11 Aaaand pure paladin. This card made me really sad

checking in from the future. funny hearing @rarran bash the countess and pure paladin. turned out to be the nuts deck just a few months later

The synergy between you two guys is great. Hope to seemore 🙂

What high abbes alura did was summon 6 murlocks from your deck on turn 4, as you could cast a 10 mana spell if that was all you played, and got a coin from a minion or by going second

Is The Countess the wife of Dr. Boom? They both are 7/7/7 and summon stuff

I love this video idea! You should do more of these, with different people too!! (Specifically asking non hearthstone players hearthstone questions)

Pure Paladin laughing atm at this

We are not considering wild for this.

I love the thumbnail 😂 is that Yugi from "if Yugioh was made by EA" by Chimaru?

Dude, i played Hearthstone a couple of months back in the day, i found your channel cause the Runeterra series of guessing the power level of cards with Snnuy and it was rellay fun and now i watch almost all your content. Keep it coming! Just one thing, the ending to your videos and the overall volume could be a bit higher, the videos just end, hehe. And also, i'm so thankful that you didn't pick Farfa, Cimo or Dzeff for this Yugioh videos, they are so obnoxious and Stevie is so chill. For Runeterra Shenanigans, have you tried contacting Majin Bae or Grapplr? One is a high level player and the ohter is a beyond comical content creator, i'll just love to see you two interact!

Thanks for giving us great content. Congrats on the well deserved 100k subs.

The reno slander cut me deep, highlander mage was my absolute favorite deck that patch it was so fun if you pulled that dude on curve against all the meta aggro it was sweet sweet relief Kind of also understand the sentiment around shark because it didn't see much play but that shit was soooooo fun in pogo rougue

It took me 15 minutes to realize that Stevie was wearing a Belle Delphine mugshot shirt. What a legend.

It was cool seeing you two switch roles for this video. I like the healthy mix of rarran looking like a fool and rarran making someone look like a fool. I ran into that albatross res priest in wild one time & it was so awful. Just birds and that Prime that healed them. Forever. Still better than big priest tho

Spirit of the shark is an integral piece to pillager rogue which is one of the best combo decks in wild for a while now

Chrono Trigger music is so good, what excellent background

The reason they nerfed High Abbess Alura was because of Tip the Scales (Paladin spell, epic, 8 mana: Summon 7 Murlocs from your deck). Basically, you would run only two spells in the deck - two copies of Tip the Scales, and then mulligan for Alura+Hydrologist and pop off a huge board on turn 4/5, winning the game before most decks could use their AoEs. Edit: Nozdormu the Timeless was pretty useless until Big Paladin got a 2 mana 2/3 murloc which drew a Dragon on a deathrattle, then one actually had a fair chance of drawing Nozdormu on turn 4 and could use him properly.

This is fascinating. I haven't played HS in years and he and I are having similar takes on these cards. Takes that are usually pretty damn bad. The game has changed so drastically these past few years I barely recognize it.

Crazy that he saw the potential of Incanter's flow even at 4 mana.

Ashes of Outland Demon Hunter. Brought to you by the same people who made VFD, Crystron Halqifibrax and Verte Anacondra

I don't even play any of these games anymore but this series is really fun and entertaining to watch. Keep it up! :)

Alura was crazy when used with priest questline reward

I loooove the Conkers Bad Fur Day music in the background btw thank you :)

I don't know if I would consider the countess a bad card. I think that the cards around it are what really makes the count is not seen that great, but the countess is the main piece of that deck and primarily would be considered the strongest piece of that deck

man on the countess you were talking... let's not say that word. neutral legendaries can already be plenty powerful on their own, remember their battlecry effects are available too. then there's the buddies from death knight, the horsemen, the collossal ones, the elemental lords, colossus of the moon... and depending on the turn you play you get to put the lady into that murderous company the same turn. not to mention yrel and the other "no neutral" cards in paladin decks, most of the time the opponent has ragequit by turn 6 before you even bring her out.

Ah, poor Rarran. That was probably me with Il'gynoth Demon Hunter you played against a few times. One of my favorite decks of all time and the best Priest killer ever.

I love these series. Please keep making more!

Risky Skipper is definitely the best card warrior ever received and still true to this day. Utilities are off the charts: Has card to tutor into, clear boards, gain armor, enable combo, draw cards. Best supporting card ever existed.

Pure Pala is pretty good rn, unfortunately, at that time, it wasn't :/

problem with this content format is that the power level of most cards just depends on how good all the support cards, the archetype and the other decks were at a given point in time, so you basically have to guess. like that shark card, depends how good battlecry and combo cards are and for every card depends on how good the containing archetype is and if something just flat out beats it.

Love the millenial fair from chrono trigger on the background 🥰

Tbh the countess is really good, but sadly paladin is really bad :/ most random legendary are just some stats, but 3 discovers means you will see 9 legendary, and some of them are game breaking . Like with the 1 mana heal 2 "echo" (idk the name in english), some minions can win on their own And 7/7 for 7 do nothing is true, but only on turn 7 and 8. And on those turns, most time in paladin you can do a turn with nothing thanks to egality aoe, cariel (well not before t7 and t8 I know), heal... so it's not that bad

Also can people please stop saying hurtstone? Its hartstone. A "hearth" is a word borrowed from the Dutch (haard) and means "fireplace". And is pronounced "hart".

From a yugioh perspective every heartstone card looks bad hahaha

So Risky Skipper is what Spellbook of Judgement was during Dragon Ruler format.

Holy crap is that Space Station Silicon Valley in the background? This channel just earned a sub.

Please continue to this format forever. Heartstone vs Ygo is so hylarious, both have nonsensly broken cards but in different ways. I'm having so much fun in these videos.

Is that music from Theme Hospital I'm hearing at the start? What a throwback...

24:32 I didn't know the rarity of a card influences how likely you are to draw it. Interesting

I miss Risky Skipper... ~Also miss Albatross ressurect priest... that was very toxic, and loved playing it...

Half of the Hearthstone community is crying out in pain when you call good cards in wild horrible 😭 Please please consider at least mentioning something. Its just a little research

You forgot to mention the broken bug with Cthun and Maxima! If you buffed Cthun once and summoned it from deck the buff would be applied an additional 60 times for a 128 damage mega nuke on turn 6 or 5 with coin. You would run sphere of influence, one beckoner of evil, Maxima, Cthun, double masters call, and the rest spells to tutor the combo. I piloted this deck from bronze 5 to legend by farming demon seed warlocks before it was banned from wild, it absolutely obliterated them. I won dozens of times in this matchup and could count my losses against them on one hand. AND the majority of those losses were to dirty rat and not from from drawing Cthun before Maxima. It was surprisingly consistent

Definitely a great duet for the format "Tries to Guess How Good".