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Yurgir kills the last Justiciar Lyrthindor, on his own. A BG3 Larian Oversight? 

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So, what happens if you find the LAST Justiciar, but instead of hurting/killing him yourself, you were to actively avoid doing that entirely, and instead haul his ass all the way to Yurgir himself, toss him to Yurgir's feet?
Sadly, Yurgir nor any of his associates appear to care that he exists at all, they won't initiate at all, you can quite literally carry him all the way there, and then fight him with your entire party amongst Yurgir's crew while they walk back and forth like you don't even exist.
So how do you remedy this?
Well, when you get Lyrthindor to Yurgir, you must cause him to insight a fight with the group, and so far the only tool i had on hand at the time was Crown of Madness, which causes him to attack nearby individuals, this causes Yurgir to become hostile towards him. There's one catch, he could perform a saving throw and, for WHATEVER REASON, the moment crown of madness disappears, Yurgir and the group will no longer be hostile even if he manages to kill any of them. This is why i had replenished a spell slot with an elixir just in case that happened.
Now while in this video Yurgir doesn't get the last hit, my first attempt at this managed to have Yurgir land the last hit as a critical killing Lyrthindor, but this doesn't change the outcome at all, Rapheal still shows up, INSISTS my party is the one that killed him (even though we weren't even involved in the fight at all, i've reattempted this in which not even my own party memebers end up in the fight, we just sit back watch Lyrthindor get brutally murdered by the group and then they go back to the usual.
In all honesty i thought this would be a way to complete Yurgir's contract without Raphael being able to dictate the fine print, maybe even get absolutely pissed at our party to instigate a brief fight with Raphael even, perhaps making Yurgir a summonable ally or who knows what kind of other rewards (like him willfully giving us his crossbow and maybe some other weapons or unique armor/accessories, hell even opening up more options with the one guy by the fire that is a merchant.
Larian for the love of all things that would be unique to this game, allow at least something different to play out in this scenario. Also to be clear, i repeated this attempt without harming Lyrthindor at all during the carry process, if that were to be a requirement, i'd be fine, it's just a bit tedious sometimes to cancel the toss sometimes.

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@stuffmcstuff399
@stuffmcstuff399 6 месяцев назад
Bro, I don't think the video is wide enough, needs more GIRTH
@RAWBOT301
@RAWBOT301 6 месяцев назад
How far apart are your eyes? Are you a a llama?
@pandora3503
@pandora3503 3 месяца назад
And that's how you get Astarion to break up with you. I tried not bringing him along, but even in camp, he will give you this dialogue if you kill Lythindor. I guess the only way to have it all is to avoid him talking to Raphael at the mausoleum 🤷‍♀️
@blefyplayswowable
@blefyplayswowable 10 дней назад
I randomly remembered this interaction, how it bothered me, and wanted to see if there was a way around it. At the time I figured it had a narrative purpose & woulda been unavoidable anyway, even if just in different words. It shows what's absolutely going to happen if you sign a contract with goalpost-moving devils. Even if he did kill the Justiciar himself, Raphael would still be like "ah but it was the weapon/injuries/asphyxiation that killed them, not you". Even with Wyll being freed from his patron, his afflictions & powers don't go away, indicating it's just another "Ah yes the contract's over, but I didn't say for how long" goalpost move. Unless something's a direct transaction, devil contracts will always result in becoming their plaything, willing or otherwise. You'd literally be in safer hands pacting with the Dead Three. As for hypothetical ways around it; -Talking to Yurgir 1st, finding the Justiciar, and returning to dox the Justiciar to Yurgir (if the dialogue option's even available) -Bringing Yurgir to the Justiciar (would probably prevent all dialogue in general if it's starting a combat phase, but maybe it'll trigger the scene)
@xXpezcoolXx
@xXpezcoolXx 3 месяца назад
I got the justiciar to follow me to the demon, but they don't attack each other. I'm mad. I'm trying something else to make only the demon kill the justiciar, but so far I think its a lost cause
@Salty_Mike
@Salty_Mike 6 месяцев назад
I am sure if they become aware of this, they will either patch it or make it a valid option."
@androidken
@androidken 6 месяцев назад
"Larian Oversight"? Nah. A game maker can't account for every silly thing a player is going to do. I mean who, besides you, is going to pick a dude up and carrying him to Yurgir? No one. lol
@SpectrumTwist
@SpectrumTwist 6 месяцев назад
I don't expect a game studio to be able to account for everything, but less you forget, Larian studios has stated that so far there is content, quite a lot of content, in which so far no one appears to have discovered yet. Dialogue and interactions and even story level events no one has seen because people haven't attempted it, things such as what i attempted. Sadly the outcome was a little disappointing as at the very least i would have expected yurgir to instantly begin attacking someone that very clearly looked like a justiciar. But sadly they ignored them. Even if you throw him up on the platform before entering the area that would cause the cutscene, nothing happens. So by definition there is some level of oversight in the outcome. I should point out if you complete the dialogue which initiates the fight fully with him, you can still haul his ass to yurgir and like i stated in the description, have an all out fight with him, even potentially doing harm to yurgir's fellow compatriots, which only causes a temporary hostility before they ignore him and we continue to fight. I've been toying around with many different ways of doing things, including sneaking in and grabbing the last mouse and running up to yurgir with the mouse before he transforms.
@Damalycus
@Damalycus 6 месяцев назад
WHAT IN THE HOLY FISHEYE IS THIS? What kind of resolution are you running?
@SpectrumTwist
@SpectrumTwist 6 месяцев назад
it's 8K ultrawide 32:9 (7680x2160)
@Damalycus
@Damalycus 6 месяцев назад
@@SpectrumTwistjesus...
@picklejho69
@picklejho69 6 месяцев назад
Must have nine hells of a monitor
@frankpizza1596
@frankpizza1596 6 месяцев назад
@@SpectrumTwist thats 4k ultrawide homie
@SpectrumTwist
@SpectrumTwist 6 месяцев назад
@@frankpizza1596No, it's 8K Super Ultrawide by definition. 4K is 3840x2160, ultrawide is 3840x1600 for 21:9 and 3840x1080 for Super Ultrawide. This has long since been set in stone ages ago. Basically it's half height 8k sure, but still 8k. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8K_resolution#Resolutions en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Resolutions
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