Yuval Noah Harari & Rutger Bregman: YES Online Conversations 

Excellent debate, leaves enough doubts and desire to find more information about many topics. For those who feel curious here is a list with some of the titles in the Yuval's library. -Maps of time - David Christian -Homo Deus - Yuval -The gene - siddhartha mukherjee -Blood Rites - Barbara Ehrenreich -The Sixth Extinction - Elizabeth Kolbert -Our Inner Ape - Frans de Waal -The Taste of Ashes - Marci Shore -The Last Whaler - Doug Bock Clark -I Am Malala - Malala Yousafzai , Christina Lamb -Mama's Last Hug - Frans de Waal -The Future Is History - Masha Gessen -War and Gender - Joshua S. Goldstein -Europe - Tim Flannery -The Ukrainian Night - Marci Shore -Humankind - Rutger Bregman -The Odyssey - Homer -AI Superpowers - Kai-Fu Lee -The Age of Surveillance Capitalism - Shoshana Zuboff -Congo - David Van Reybrouck -How to Change Your Mind - Michael Pollan Psd: I would love to see in the future book recommendations from Yuval. If you agree, vote for this comment so that the message reaches him. Have a good reading...and may all Beings be happy.

Why do we always look for disagreements??? It seems to be very difficult to agree on anything. So that is what we should be looking for!!!

Please watch minute 30 to minute 33. Great point made here. "Where is the problem?" - "... the dark side of friendliness ... we are incredibly groupish... we just wanna be liked ... we're often on the wrong side of history and thinking we're just helping our friends"

I’m sort of obsessed with trying to read all the book titles in the background rn.

I could listen to Yuval for hours. There are so few people who look at the big picture and the connected parts in the way he does and can actually communicate those ideas in such an articulate and understandable way.

Mister Harari, i am patiently waiting for your next book.

Kudos to both Yuval and Rutger for working out how to deliver high-quality audio for virtual events. Always a joy to hear them both speak. Zanny is an incredible moderator!

Was riveted like this was some Game of Thrones finale. Blown away by the brilliance and respect on both sides and masterful moderation in the middle.

And Yuval is a guy you can always listen to - so unassuming but profound and clear with soothing voice.

Thanks Prof. Harari! Your thoughts makes my mind clearer! I hope to read you again very soon! In italian or other, no problem!

Yuval Noah Harari is one of greatest mind in the world now, I think

Mister Harari. I love hear you.

Dr. Harari when is your next book? I love them and has learned a lot. Read them and have them on audio as well.

Thank you. I enjoyed this program. Very stimulating.

Both views are fantastic.

“Survival of the friendliest” Thank you both for clarity and inspiration👏🏼

Greatest Exposition By Professor Yuval By Far

I was waiting for this conversation since I have read Yuvals books and then Rutgers Humankind. Thank you 🙏

Yuval! Great intellectual of present time.

Yuval's clarity of mind is amazing.

Yuval for President !!! ❤️👍❤️

Great! BRAVO!! Harari, so inspiring!

What Yuval said about people being very rational and believing stories at the same time, actually perfectly unifies Rutger and Yuval's thinking. Believing in Rutger's hopeful story about humandkind can go hand in hand with realistic, rational thinking. Now, let's hope people will actually do that.

Thank you Zanny. Hard to add value with these two but you did it gracefully! I subscribe to Yuval's take but remain hopeful Rutger is right. That to me is human kind.

Excellent forum for two current & progressive intellects of our time. Because such discussions have lasting pertinence but also a specific historical context, please ALWAYS INCLUDE THE DATE of the original talk/broadcast somewhere in the details/notes for the program/talk. Many thoughtful points were made, but I particularly appreciated the distinction between Optimism and Hope, in that Hope generally suggests more individual activism versus the more background or collective scope of Optimism. Modern humans have the intelligence & technology to communicate/discuss, develop & create/implement social systems that will enhance human lives & develop/harness even greater human potential, but only through broader consensus building, collaboration, and collective commitment/action built around maximum participation/buy-in of the individual citizens of the world.

Yuval is one of the greatest minds of our generation. these videos are a gift to humanity 🙏

Yuval Harari is a genius.

My simple solution is humans should stop manipulating nature and start living in harmony with nature. Worship the mother nature. This change of mindset will help flourish the lives of humankind.

Excelente. Que bueno escucharlos. Saludos desde Colombia.

Never seen such a skillful moderator like her. Trump and Biden debate could have other result with Zanny

A pleasant surprise to see Uncle Viktor give the opening remarks for this.

Harari is brilliant. We all create our own fictions.

Sincerely appreciated

Thank you very much!

Great interviewer and brilliant guests.

Thanks for this video

Thank you for this extraordinary conversation

I can listen to her voice for hours and hours on end...

To me the moderator is confusing being a realist with being a pessimist. Thanks for sharing this.

Yuval Harari is a meditating genius prophet saint gay king master wizard, and I fucking love him ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ he should be made king of the planet 👍🏻🙌🏻🤩

Thank you

Fantastic discussion! Thanks for uploading

Mr. Hararri, we admire and appreciate your work a lot, you are without doubt one of the greatest achievers of our time but when it comes to science or vaccination you don't mention the negative aspects of it but just the posetive ones.. Today everything has turned to business and very profite oriented, untrustworthy.. One question, what do you think about the pharma lobbying and the big businesses the doctors are making with vaccination while the poor nursing staff and other less fortunate people are working so hard just to meet their basic needs? Here in Germany doctors are just making more money out of the crises like never before .. I thought being a doctor demands a lot of responsibility and ethical behavior. .Another question in terms of climate change, why don't the rich just stop flying for fun or shopping with their private jets all over the world , or reduce the lavish lifestyle they are living by? , or does it just apply to the average consumer ? 🙏

Yuval confident and specific as always.

Yuval you got a right worldview

What is the problem? For me, the problem is our essential vulnerability and insecurity as individuals. Fear in all its forms and permutations makes us do incredibly stupid and cruel things. The fear of being alone and even more vulnerable than we would be were we with our tribe or group brings us to sublimate our sense of what is fair and just to the press of the group. The answer is simple, but never easy. We must each face our fears, every time they come up in us, and learn to bring courage into our everyday lives. In this way, we can at the very least face what needs to be faced and do what needs to be done in the moment.

I think they both made very interesting points in the end: we need both to change ourselves in the way we see each others as human beings, and also to gain some global control (through cooperation) of the way technology evolves.

Thank you.

A lesson on How to moderate and get the best out two brilliant minds.Way to go Zanny!

Its our oneness that brings us together. The innate importance of each of us and all of us. We have a call to evolve - to bring about our better nature. The depths of us, that is slowly coming into general awareness

The Economist Zanni ... Superb Zoom InterAction

Amazing conversation thank you for rising the level of RU-vid contents. More of this please !

This is pretty good, I am only at 9:05, but in just a handful of sentences each, they already set up an interesting duel: friendliness vs story telling. I am curious how it will go on.

You can tell right away from Rutger's line of thought the insidious ways structural privilege works: when you're lucky enough to be born in a long established, solid, social welfare democracy (The Netherlands) It can really bias your view on society. His work would hugely benefit if he were to spend a few years away from the First World or study Fanon or Mbembe with attention.

Fight, flight, freeze? No, we will do it in a way of kindness & cooperation. Love & empathie is the answer ♡. I agee both of them.

Thank you for this debate, very interesting... The thing I'm stuck on is that, it's not about "right" or "wrong", or "good or bad"... it's more about entitlement, greediness, empathy, convenience, selflessness, shrewdness, values, principles and the ego... and pessimism and positivity vary according to one's upbringing. For example, I grew up in Venezuela where I've experienced a very corrupt government, developed countries exploit the country only for its natural resources. Taking for the country... But it's only due to my experiences of having travelled and observing different ways of doing things is that I have been able to come to my own conclusions as to what is "good/bad".

These conversations always make me think in unexpected ways! What is really good and I want to share my thoughts :) What I think the lesson to be learned with the pandemic is that if we are able to collaborate in large numbers as a species, we have to be able to develop better and faster collaboration frameworks for our human society to be able to overcome real problems more efficiently and not only to drive forward in lucrative technological advancements, it doesn't matter if for covid-19 or the climate change, because what I observe daily is that society has advanced knowledge to overcome problems but is not flexible enough in mass scale specially to implement the solutions because of inappropriate policies, obsolete structures and dystopian ideologies.... it's amazing that our smartness is being always misplaced and not for the common good is like a layer of our completeness as an human specie is missing and I think that is the fundamental issue that has to change.

Thanks 🙏

Excellent _and very important_ conversation. Thanks for organizing and sharing these events.

Mr Yuval Noah Harari and Mr Rutger Bergman, I would absolutely love your views on the latest work of Riane Eisler, "Nurturing Our Humanity". The social scale of domination versus partnership societies clarefies so much on the crises we live in today.

do you have a list of the books on the shelf behind him? I want to read all of them

Wonderful!!! the laughter of both in the last minute lifts me up too!

Great talk!

I have subscribed but why I did not see any access link or invitation for the live program to participate ?

We want Yang, #MATH

Completely energizing and rivetting conversation. Thank you

Very nice. Love it!! Brazil

For justice please do just one thing stopping money laundering from poor countries to rich countries. Even no need to change the ownership.

Getting my doctoral students in leadership development to watch this and related it to their understanding of regenerative thinking. Fantastic discussion!

Great moderator.

The "moderator" clearly didn't want the discussion to be done in a moderate way, she repeatedly tried for a "battle of the minds", illustrating Bregman's point about the negative influence of the media which focuses on bad news, its motto is "If it bleeds it leads". This constantly reinforces the negative view of human nature which Bregman is trying to show is mistaken. Despite her, the two gave a good example of a shared interest being discussed in a nuanced, informed, moderate way.

Incredibly challenging discussion

When Yuval speaks it feels like I have all the time in the world to listen

Yuval has studied & relates human nature & mind so well right from it’s evolution. Perfectly. Just like a scientist derives mathematical equation & formula.👌👌

We definitely need Global institutions as a response to relationships and businesses that have become globalized without the proper institutions to regulate human relationships. ECOCRACY is the alternative to DEMOCRACY, the only form of government capable of guiding human relations in a globalized world.

I'd like to hear from Rutger and Yuval what they say about the relevance of Nasim Taleb's 'Skin in the Game' or 'Antifragile'. Rutger says nice equilibria are possible, but Rutger and Yuval agree this is not automatic, and really bad ones exist. Taleb puts emphasis on the fact that only one catastrophy is enough for an end, which demands some antifragile strategy for humanity to avoid disaster. A long 'nice' situation may lead via complacency to a bad one. And we are living through risky times.

My 2 homeboys in one talk.. im excited!

Yuval, I love you. Thanks for all your books. I bought them all in English and in Chinese for my kids. The last one, the graphic one also. Keep going! I am with you all the way.

The conditions of air, water and soil should be better, so that whatever kind of pathogen will not effect the vulnerables that bad ...

Tuvalu, I have been rereading your books again. As a Rotarian, I am trying to convince Rotarians to establish RIPA(Rotary International Peace Academy). There are military academies in the U.S. but none exist for the peace academy. Your thought please.

29:41 It is not weather people are inherently "good" or "bad". It is what type of HOS (human operating system) TENDS to allow humans to present their best or worse potentials. Design matters.

Huge respect for both but team Bregman! :)

They all need to show off their books 📚🤓

Very good points here! The questions around large scale societies are powerful, please also look up the works of Riane Eisler. The domination versus partnership scale provides a universal frame. Partnership shows practical pathways for a better future. The four cornerstones build that possible future (1 Family & Social Structure, 2 Gender Roles & Relations, 3 Economic & Social Relations, and 4 Narratives & Language)

Love Zanny and Yuval. Rutger is sort of getting there, good guy!

Does anyone knows the name of books on rutger's shelf

Thanks for such an intellectual treat. Keep inviting the best world's minds to Ukrainian platforms.

I find it a bit irritating the way the moderator is frequently framing Yuval's comments as being gloomy. This is a mature conversation between adults about profound matters it's not a Disney movie.

To keep this in perspective, the internet was shutdown in Uganda this Jan for 5 days and extended for another month for a partial lockdown. The threat of Tech feels remote to me for authoritarian regimes that can simply shut it down and head back to the stone age.

I really enjoyed the conversation and the gentle arguments that had been developed but sometimes i trully miss a Christopher Hitchens aggressive debate. How articulate was he??

In The Human condition, we are highly competitive. We can put other down(gossip), we can self-improve, or we can lift others up. As Humans, we are in all three states at once. Gossip is also Comedy. We all need a sense of Humor. We like people that self-improve. The only one we need more of is the Goddess State where we lift others up. The amount of energy we put into each state can vary each day. What will you choose today?

1:22:57 this aged like fine wine

I totally agree about global collaboration and global politic, we need unification. I'd like to see youth and younger population to have power. I wouldn't like to be policy maker, because it implies a lot of responsibility and I guess many people think this way, it's also a really dirty game, but I'm really tired of seeing old man dictating their view when they are corrupted and completely disconnected with the majority of the world. We should be able to vote on a social media platform about ethical questions related to society and changes, I'm pretty sure we would be able to define trends and common goals. This will show the power of democracy, because everyone could express themselves in the confort of their houses.

When did Donald talk about NBI?

Verbal "pessimism" is the identification of (potential) problems so they can be solved. ;)

he just told you, we are not so good when the scale is not individual but massive!

Hoping that Prof. Harari gets paired with someone of his weight class in future debates.

interesting dialogue, but we have to be critical when it comes to this type of dialectic between (pessimistic & optimistic) point of view. Because it is the OBSERVER state, like audiences in a show. Rather, we are PLAYER in this human stage, who MUST be active ; looking for success and learn from failure, Despite of taking sides, and STICK to one team. Note: Sound setting needs to be taken in consideration in next videos. Thanks Yuval.

Yuval:1 Rutger:0 Quite the mismatch. Given the aggregate of the exponential increase of existential threats we collectively face as a species, I'm going with Oscar Wilde: "The basis of optimism is sheer terror." The threats are time sensitive and we are far too late. We don't need hope. We need courage. Courage to face what's coming. Twenty years to REVERSE carbon emissions so that civilization as we know it will survive in a recognizable form by 2200. With the unbridled profit incentive (capitalism) at stake? Guess who wins? Courage, my friends, courage.

"hopefulness" aside. i can sense a bit of egotism on the left side of the video. insightful exchange nonetheless. also Yuval crushed it.