Zello Radios VS GMRS & Ham Radios - Is a Zello Radio A "Real" Radio? Are Zello Radios Any Good? 

'Some People' lurk in the back of the auditorium with a blank picket sign and magic markers just waiting for you to say something they can get offended about. I put in the extra effort, which is why I'm Randy's favorite viewer :D

My first encounter with "some people" was over 200 years ago when I delivered the newspaper to Thomas Edison's house. Some people hung around outside his house and said radio would never catch on, and their carrier pigeons were by far the best means of long distance communications. But of course you had to pass the test to use them legally.

Your definition of “some people” is perfect, and I know I’m being silly for stopping on all the hidden messages, but I really enjoy your humor and the challenge of stopping on them (HINT: playback speed adjustment is your friend).

Stroke and pet the UV-5R

My router identifies as a radio… Its pronouns are SYN SYN-ACK ACK.....

As a female ham and gmrs operator, I appreciated your smooth, clean, and nicely trimmed fingernails some people on the RU-vids have scary jagged nails, with dry dirty hands. Yikes!! Thank you

Coming from someone not involved in the ham community, I think network radios, assuming they have a SIM slot, can be extremely useful. Think of industries such as logistics, construction, etc. Back in the day, Nextel was very popular with those folks, and, had Sprint not destroyed it, I think it still would be. In fact, in the Southeast, we still have Southern Linc. A network radio can basically do the same thing, with the advantage of you being able to use whichever wireless carrier works best in your area. Pop in a SIM, sign into Zello, and hand it to an employee.

Hey Mr. Randy, I really like that shirt! Another good thing about the internet radio, there aren't any scanners that pick up the transmission unless you're connected to a repeater or a rf simplex node.

Another great shirt !! Good information for choosing what's best for people in a decision making mode.👍👍👍

I can't thank you enough for the step by step info on maneuvering the fcc website. Probably saved me 4 hours and 3 rage quits:) Keep up the good work and information

I love the work you do man ! 😅😅You're really looking out for the consumer😂 man you got a really good thing going trolling those other guys😂😂

LOL I had to freeze frame it to finally see your 1 frame flash definition of "Some People" I was not disappointed. Have been watching your Videos for a long time Randy keep up the good work.

I'm actually curious about these kinds of radios from an off grid standpoint because you could probably configure a local server, and 2.4ghz wifi propagates well with directional antennas. It would open up some interesting possibilities assuming they could be configured to use in an offline scenario. As an IT nerd, I know much more about wifi than I would about GMRS, FRS, MURS, 2M, 70CM, etc. Getting the bits in and out to show you things you expect from a smart phone but in a purpose built ruggedized wifi device that fits in a single hand is a niche I can appreciate.

Internet radio has become increasingly common for companies that need to communicate sensitive information (e.g. healthcare companies) because they can have their employees get the phone app and pay a moderate service fee. Due to the sensitive information, to use a standalone radio system, they would need to get more expensive digital voice radios. Plus, that assumes they are able to get a business radio license to be allowed to transmit. There are situations where it makes sense, although "some people" can never seem to figure out that different people sometimes have different situations.

HOLY SHlT! You said moist for me! Thank you Randy. You made me moist.

It upsets me that my OCD won’t allow me to skip the hidden messages. I have to slow them down and go back and read each dang one. Lol

Does the Ksun model you show in this video work on any US cell providers or are you just using it on wi-fi? I have one of their less expensive models that has issues with US providers. Thanks. And thanks for the entertaining and informative videos.

The UV-5R is the BEST HAM RADIO YOU CAN BUY! And you can take that to the bank! Thanks as always Randy. You're the sexiest and most bestest RU-vidr there is, I don't deserve to watch you. What the world needs now is more Randys and less sad HAMs!

You absolutely are the best on any of these shows I watch!👍🏽

I use both POC and analog. POC is for long distance and private conversations with my non-tech friends, and I keep analog for commute chats with strangers. POC is not a SHTF preparation, never thought it would be one. And I be more comfortable carrying a $70 gadget than using my phone.

Randy, great video as always. I'm staying with my yaesu vx-6r and wouxun kg-935g.

Love your videos. I watch them all the time. Your no bullshit mentality is the best. More RU-vidrs need to do this. #MYGA

I use both but I do enjoy my net Radio. I Hava a hybrid cell phone/net radio/push to talk UHF/VHF transceiver. I have a great time participating in net discussions on Echolink and GMRS live on Zello. I still love using my traditional radios, base and handheld but my network radio is with me all the time. Thank you for the video.

WOW I actually heard others screaming and small explosions outside when you were mentioning historical facts and dates regarding events explaining the technology we all so much enjoy in everyday life. keep up the great learning videos.

I have only been in this radio hobby a few months and find it very interesting how many ways there are to enjoy it and how there are equally as many ways to be offended by how others enjoy the hobby!

They have their place in the world but I dont think "tactical" communications is it. My company uses them for specific jobs but the primary network is still VHF. I actually loved playing with it! I heard Icom was going to make combination radio with both VHF and network. I'll be getting one of those when or if it does. Great video! Keep offending. I love it!

"Shit hits the fan type shituation". Shituation has been added to my vocabulary. Thank you.

i did have a "Some people" experience! but with programming (now called coding) I asked a simple question, and "Some people" informed me how stupid my question was. I still needing to know the answer, just tried different ways till i resolved it. then posted back to "Some people" that "here is the answer! never mind." 🙂

I own a few baofeng gmrs uv5rtp and I just was given a new gm 15 pro gmrs radio. Ave you evaluated it. I am able to use the other radios to talk to each other on gmrs frequencies. The gm15 pro seems to have a little bit more receiving range, is that your experience. I am a former military Mars operator

Considering the fact that you can use encryption with wifi, and that you can basically set up a network however you want(lan or wan, repeaters or not), i think the use case is pretty obvious.

Not every radio needs to be SHTF enabled. Sometimes a radio can be just for fun.

I am glad you are here to explain this to some people…

"Some people" usually end up as the pinned comment, and it makes my day

Once again, in excruciating detail... Love your superb rants.

Genius viewer involvement tactic : ) Very amusing! Thanks

No Roger beep?… what is this world coming to??

Thanks for the great explanation. I think everybody now undertstand.

i think the confusion comes from it using the Internet: if i disable the wifi and use a otg adapter to plug in a ethernet cable, can i still call it a radio?

OMG - This is brilliant and makes so much sense. I love the last comment about being a radio dork and needing both. Totally agree! Hahaha Cheers :)

What is fantastic is that those who are saying that these aren't radios are almost certainly communicating with a personal electronic device utilizing a wifi radio. If the internet thing is bugging you, there are lots of PTT apps that do not require an internet connection, but they won't work on the device that is shown in this video.

Factories and healthcare facilities seem to be favoring them, they already have the infrastructure set up to have WiFi throughout the building compared to installing a railcar full of uhf repeaters in the building because electricities don't like flying through steel and concrete much

Did I detect a gentle reference to Calvin and Hobbes? Awesome

Why can't we all just love communications and not gatekeep what is and is not radio?

Love the shirt and good job keep it up

I prefer a real radio, as you said "less points of failure". I just don't get the advantage of a network radio, you can just install a network radio app on a smartphone to do the same over cellular or Wifi. Perhaps I'm missing something?

Do you know of any regular radio + Zello radio combined into one? I mean I carry a phone so I use that for Zello but I also carry a UV5-R but it would be cool to get one device like the Ulefone 20Wt except not shit.

Thank you Randy for sharing how Steve Jobs was really ahead of his time and under acknowledged in so many ways. Jobs, at the age of 7 in 1962, invented some of the technology that now allows network radio. Jobs was an enterprising young dude. Especially since Al Gore hadn’t even invented the inter-web yet! 😂😅😂

Everyone knows Tesla made the interwebz in 1977 while watching Return of the Jedi on his DVD (which was invented by Franklin by the way)

Hi....dont understand if I have a BAOFENG why it cant talk to all radios. I belong a dirt track safety crew. They have programmed radios. I can listen but cant transmit. Ive tried everything, asked friends. Went to a radio shop who said they could program it for money. I hope this is the right place to ask you this question. Thanks for being a true person. Keep up the good work....

“Some people” = Experts

what no roger beep at the end? good vid. someone need to make 10 hours of roger beeps 😂

I bought my Bowfwang just so I can ker-chunk the local repeaters. Thanks for teaching me how to do that….allegedly.

"MOIST." HAHA! One of my daughter's friends HATES that word. She think other words are more suitable, like "damp." She may have learned that in nursing school; I don't know. I asked, "Really? Do you prefer your cupcakes to be damp? What? You mean moist cupcakes aren't better?" She had nothing. 🤪

Hey bro, I agree with your exclamation about these radios and they are indeed radios and they are a very cool tech I got the new ksun ZL 30 radio and it is a nice radio to use had a little bit of getting used to of the buttons and controls but I can navigate the radio easy keep up the good work with your videos brother don’t let the haters get to you

You really entertain me because "some people" really are dumb. And you tell them that very nicely! I love it. BUT, you are informative in your technical videos. Thanks. Very funny

There are many like it.. but this one is mine. Brilliant 😂👍🏻

I have used Zello before, seemed to work ok if you can tolerate the delay. When you hold the PTT it records you and only transmits when you let go. Doesn't work great for certain things like spotting someone backing a trailer. What is the advantage of using an internet radio over just using the Zello app on your phone?

Love your videos!

Do they support encryption in any form, if they do, what about E2EE or symmetric ciphers?

I'm a carpenter/subcontractor, and we use the signal app to communicate. MOST PEOPLE..😆.I work with, do not have long drawn out communications, just short concise texts, but SOME PEOPLE..😂...feel it necessary to write long paragraphs of minutely detailed descriptions with their expert opinions whilst displaying their superior intellect, almost as if they were Sad Hams...

*As a wise man once said, for those of you who don't get it... "You've got to know when to hold 'em Know when to fold 'em Know when to walk away And know when to run* You never count your money When you're sittin' at the table There'll be time enough for countin' When the dealin's done"

Well, I thought this topic was right up your street -- a great choice for your loyal viewers, like me. Radios are about communication at a distance ... that's all 99.9% of people care about. I like all the little ins and outs, but at the end of the day, it's just about long-distance communication without wires or strings. You gave a great intro to this different way of communicating at a distance with the internet POC radios (one of your best vids), but these radios will never be able to contact Voyager, in deep space. Why does that matter, you ask? It doesn't, of course, which is exactly your point! (Sad Ham self-glazes, and sticks cloves into his skin) You use the right radio for the right case of communicating at a distance. Duh. That's it. "Purists" have their place, I suppose -- I'll think up what it is in a moment -- but knowing different ways to communicate at a distance, like GMRS, about which I knew zilch until I happened across one of your videos, just means the opportunity to make smart choices for a given set of circumstances and conditions (including fatness or thinness of the wallet). Zello is just another option to evaluate. I will admit, however, that sometimes I am "some people," just never on your channel because I don't want my 'nads blow-torched off. Also I'm in therapy. Bottom line: you are Mr. Practical, and Mssrs. Hypothetical, Theoretical, and Wannabe simply aren't going to be happy watching your funny videos. After all, you might teach them something, and that would destroy their self-centered worldviews in which they ALWAYS know more than anyone else.

2:18 - Sums up the debate on this hardware pretty well

Bahahaha, great definition of "Some People"...nailed it.

We need daily uploads from the king.

I took a 7 year hiatus from ham radio because of all the 'Some People' in the hobby. The arrogance reeks in ham radio, and they wonder why 'the hobby is dying'. I'm back at it but GMRS is so much more fun and relaxing!

Phew! "Some people" can be a challenge to pin down! Much more fun to contemplate the inferences of "moist!"

oblivious 🤣some people can be annoying... lmfao I enjoy these videos so much.

“SOME PEOPLE” CLEARLY IS KC6UBP

Love the shirt 😊❤

I have learned over the years, that it is easier to just scream out the window. It's probably better than 911, depending on what you scream. ("My radio won't connect. Did you put in an IT ticket?? Argh.")

Live and learn, I never knew that Steve Jobs invented cell phone technology when he was 7 years old. If only he'd focused all that brain wave activity towards cancer research, he might still be with us. Oh well.

Great shirt !

Some people didnt like this video and they would be wrong

Can you create a video on how to make a Zello gateway for a gmrs radio. I figured it’s worth a try to ask. Thanks

Ptt over cellular is used in lots of emergency services across the world. Flawlessly. 😅

Enjoy the video randy really enjoyed it you keep it up

Pffft of course you did ! Apologies for the dumb comment, which I have taken down … great videos !

Smoke signals in Ebonics will be the new future of communications in America!

Love the hidden messages

Where you able to test said radios out in your JEEP ? If so how did they make out ?

The best advice given out over the interwebs today is "BOTH".

Isn't that gun mat illegal in CA?

It's like 'Wonkavision'... Neat!!

We call "Some People" around the South east Georgia area Fertilizer, because that's all they good for.

"Some People" = Pickle Smoochers

Thank you!

What we have here is a failure...to communicate...some people you just caint reach...no matter how unstupid they are..

Still looking for my tube zello radio.

Omg if you have the patience to pause at the precise second for the “warning” frames 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 im freakin dying

God bless You

I've got an old Galaxy S3 inside a drawer that just needs some cleaning and a new battery; I may put it back to use as a dedicated Zello "radio".

Thank you for having the flag upside-down showing the US is in trouble..not many know that meaning......

I think "Some People" comment without even watching the video.

I been trying to talk on your zello, but I can't get in it. I got to verify my email address, and I don't know how.

POC Radio... "Piece Of Chit" . Thanks for the vid!

Do you listen to Beefheart?

I love how alot of "some people" just Looooove DMR but poo poo network radio, when it is the exact same thing with just more convulusion. Programming a DMR radio is not for the faint of heart, I did it and enjoyed it for awhile but then network radios came along and does the same thing a whole lot better and easier, plus I can set up my own private zello channel and just talk to the folks I want to talk too. The sad hams, errr "some people" are big mad because Zello is better than their expensive DMR radio. 😂

Great T-Shirt. 🤣

And plus when they cut the internet off what frequency waves are they gonna communicate on?