Zenless Zone Zero... I'm Not Impressed | Elly Reviews 

WuWa ruined my experience with Genshin too. After playing WuWa, it's really hard to play Genshin, especially after I watched the comparison between Yae and Changli's experiences. It's like comparing a AAA game to an indie game.

I just play zzz again yesterday, in the middle of the game, I was asleep and after I woke up phone was hot like crazy

My first impression with zzz in general; Quick swap basically auto-parry, limited amount at that. Forced Switch The Qte are Forced switch. If you dont want to switch, you must wait for the slow-mo meter/ effect to be done. - Stage timer doesnt stop during this slow-mo Qte swap. The point of zzz combat is build up points Decibels (the number at the left screen). Once reach 3000 points, you can use ult, Only 1 character can use ult. The point then reset to 0. - You get point by doing all the basics (hitting enemy, dodging etc) loses points when you're hit or combo breaks, or inactive for certain time (not a problem, just how the point is designed) So the rotation is; get 3000 points asap and use ult, repeat until stage clears The enemies are too passive, do one action and stand. Lacking that looping feedback of dodge, counter, parry to be use often and end up just button mashing on damage sponge enemies. There's just not much opportunity to use the Dodge counter or chain attack Heck I use Grace (dont mind me, she's my fav) literally just press one button, hit all enemy from range. Sometimes have to use specials whenever her stack is full. Her AOE is insane I havent pull any limited gacha yet. The 100 free pull feels like a joke. What it truly meant was, 100 Standard Banner free pull. Not limited (saving for Miyabi anyway) The gacha; pity being 90. With the same 0.6% rates - standard banner being mix of S characters & S weapon... - 300 pulls to guaranteed a select S rank - no beginners banner. Just discounted Standard banner pull at first But hey at least there's pity counter - my luck; I got Neko's S weapon...cant even used by Grace. 100 pulls, 2 S rank; 1 grace 1 neko weapon.... The TV doesnt annoy me. What does is; go to the same black screen TV, visually no changes. And then go to combat with the same repetitive stage environment. How many times is it the city ruin but change into night times instead. Or this time, there's elevator but the same open space again & again. Once done, go back to the same TV greeted by the same black screen. They said they are reducing TV but from my experience, its 80% TV. To play Hollow Zero, get through the TV section (building up your roguelite passive). "Combat" & commission world, TV first and 1 or 3 combat within Minor gripe but the day & night, Schedule system is more annoying. I cant do certain task & actions unless I sleep first or wait for the right time. I must rush the story if I want to make Grace stronger cuz that boss mats is locked behind Soldier 11 story.... That being said... Why cant I use my own characters in the overworld. The only time I see my favs are during combat and main menu or squad menu.... - oh but its nice that Characters appears in overworld too, especially when they appear as their casual attire Granted that Im only level 26 right now and only been through the main story, permanently on Challenge mode. But I dabble with the sidecontent too. They should add more arcade games. Havent experiences whats the grind in zzz yet, idk even where to go to grind. All my stamina are used to get skills, promotion, levels mat. I havent farm the stickers set yet The world looks nice, music too. But once you look past the surface (aesthetic), there's little substance (gameplay)

The thing is they will tell you, you need to spend hours or reach the end part so you will feel the best part of the game. But in reality, the enemies will just have higher HP as sponge, the enemies will still have the same slow attack mechanics, it will not improve the combat of the game and is still the same.

The big problem of ZZZ is actually cannot be possible the 60% of the game are those fucking screens...

ZZZ isn't for me as well. And I agree with you. It's flashy and pretty on the outside but shallow on the inside if that makes sense. Just a bit of a reminder. I'm willing to bet that some people will attack you for this. So brace yourself. Hope I'm wrong though. Many gacha-only players can't handle an opinion.

I can't believe the main story is not fully voiced too. Bro Mihoyo is world biggest Gacha company. They r just money hungry.

Wuwa kill every hype that Hoyoverse made recently. 😂😂😂😂😂

I agree with you, you don't actively look for fun in a game, the first few hours should be enough to give you that fun feel you're looking for, if you tell yourself to do dozens to hundreds of hours just to find that fun, then probably the game isn't fun It applies to all games, for ZZZ if for the first 4-5 hours and you ain't enjoying it? It only means one of two things, either ZZZ just ain't that game for you or the game generally just aint fun.

The only major gripe I have with ZZZ is the size; Wuthering Waves is 23GB and it's an open world RPG. ZZZ is +50GB and is a stage combat type of game. Not only it needed 110GB of storage to download and unzip, it doesn't work on my laptop because my CPU is dual-core. I get that it's a device issue, but HOW? How come WuWa works on my laptop but not ZZZ? +50GB for NOT an open world? Also the combat; We already have 3 games with Stage Combat type. Honkai Impact 3, Punishing Gray Raven, and Aether Gazer. I don't think the market needed another one of these. Not to mention the TV system; sure it's like a mini puzzle, but it's repetitive. You do it over, and over, and over... And it's a tricky issue, because it seems that the TV system is the highlight of ZZZ, other than the quick swapping; to erase it would mean erasing a big part of the game's identity, but plenty of players are frustrated by it.

As much as I hate to say it, Wuwa did something for gacha games that changed them for everyone. The Combat, it actually feels satisfying to parry, dodge and get good. ZZZ so far has been great in terms of story, visuals and music design unfortunately as you said in the video the combat is very straightforward button mashing.

I had a friend playing with eyes closed and just smashing keys clearing content... was funny for awhile but lame...

After reading some comments and watching reviews about this game, I said to myself, "Wait, people are starting to develop proper standards in gaming?". This is great honestly! I will never understand how games from Mihoyo became so popular when their gameplay is just as boring as ZZZ.

Wuwa set a standard. This didn't hit

Wuwa just spoiled me. Sure the game looks good but is just not my cup of tea, I want open world, I want to explore, I want minigames and challenges in the open world, I want in depth combat, I want difficulty, I want mobility, and this game doesn't have that

You definitely should try Punishing Gray Raven, the combat was really good. The foundation of Wuthering Waves as it exists now was laid by this game

Glad Kuro made people realize Hoyo is not some kind of flawless god.

They somehow thought it's a good idea to walk back the good ol' discourse of QTE in action games. I really wonder what kind of person thought it's a good idea to force a momentum-stopping QTE IN AN ACTION GAME and tie it to a meter/gauge the player can't fully control (enemy poise break). Now imagine when you end up doing multiple poise breaks on several different enemies within seconds of each other. Eugh.

You can't even jump! What the heck lol they missed a whole potential component of combat, we should be doing aerial combos

PGR set the combat standard but its not overhyped like zzz.. Its not your job to play if its boring..

85% yapping 10% tv 5% combat

"its gonna feel like work" LOOOOOOOL the way you said it. You are right though.

I think this game missed its window. If it were out a year or two earlier, it would have been 100% acceptable, but the gacha scene has been accelerating in quality rapidly. Having this come out after WuWa was just too late. The stylized graphics are cute and pretty comparable to Genshin, but I spot HORRIBLE background textures every so often and then seeing Nicole's eye spacing having her look like a lizard woman and such just puts me off. If you took the googles off of Soldier 11, she'd be 90% chin. Some of the models just have bizarre anatomy. There is potential in the combat, there are mechanics and set up sequences that HAVE to be executed properly to beat the later enemies in the more end game modes, or you will time out or just get clapped, but the 20+ hours grinding to get there introduce NONE of that difficulty. They needed to scale in harder stuff much sooner to let people feel the hype moments of triple parries, setting up support buffs and enemy def shred before dropping in your chain attacks and dump a fat full buffed ULT during daze for the ultimate wombo combo...but early health pools and mechanics just don't require any of that, so until you grind to Inter-Knot Rank 30 and finally get into the enemies with giant health pools and cinematic parry windows...you have no clue what the combat potential is. Its just poorly designed filler content until endgame.

Accurate and well articulated critique. Too much toxicity over both sides when it comes to being overtly optimistic and negative.

Game is pretty ass. People gave their criticism during the CBT. But they didn't change anything and expected people to blindly consume their slop like they always do.

Even though I am enjoying this game a lot, you have a fair point. Not only on the story part, which feels very heavy early on, and quite a few hours in to be honest, but also on the combat bit. The combat looks insanely good. And that's the keyword, looks. You don't even need to use skills, hell you don't even need to use the movement keys. By mashing left click the characters will attack and get close to targets, switch when triggered, and literally fly up to the next enemy if the one you're attacking dies. At least in the story "challenge" mode, left clicking is enough to get through it with no more input needed. Cannot say the same of the rogue like mode or endgame as I'm not there yet. All in all, again, I'm enjoying the game a whole lot, but you make a very fair point. Visuals, sound, music, vibe, presentation... It's an 11/10, as every hoyo game is. Their products are polished and personally I thank them for this cause like it or not, they've raised the bar in the industry and we're seeing very good games coming out cause of this. That aside, easy combat is one thing (looking at you GI), but literally left clicking allowing me to clear everything in the story? I'm sad to admit it cause it's such a good product, but it is what it is I guess.

Add option to skip combat and ZZZ is fixed

honestly I was expecting ZZZ to be more like genshin but in a modern theme but no, it's more of a copy of Aether Gazer than a creative idea of the game, while yes ZZZ has different gameplay mechs than Aether Gazer, but I just can't help but feel like ZZZ was heavily inspired by it, to put it in good words, Aether Gazer gameplay had some honkai impact 3rd influence in it, but the gameplay felt more engaging than ZZZ, while ZZZ combat felt plain imo, but at the end of the day, to each their own, you play what you like :)

Unfortunately this happens in every Hoyoverse game; they focus on story and visuals, keeping combat too simple. Personally I look for both in games. Been enjoying HSR which is the only Hoyo game that actually also has interesting endgame modes (mainly the SU [roguelike] modes) to make up for the basic combat, but lately it's getting boring because of the combat simplicity. You do the literal same in every fight. I'm just staying for the story and characters at this point which are amazing

The TV mode make me 😴 z z Z . . .

Yoo try out punishing gray raven, u might like its combat more

I'll try it more. I'm of the same opinion as you, but I just really want the game to be good because I like the designs more. But at this point, progressing feels like work.

90% style, 10% depth. Love the presentation, but my expectations were set too high for the gameplay. I'm going to stick with it a bit longer, because I really like some of the characters. But tbh, signing onto WW today after a long ZZZ session felt like a breath of fresh air, and that kind of put things in perspective for me.

I completely agree that first impressions really matter For context, I play PGR since it's global release and while it is a fun game, the new player experience is kinda bad so I'd understand if someone just didn't bother to continue if they didn't like the beginning That being said, zzz didn't really impress me too but I think I'm going to continue here and there when I have time to kill. Unlike genshin or hsr where I paid, I'm not expecting to be doing that

As someone who has played the majority of gachas I’ll throw in my 2 cents. It’s visually appealing and the characters that aren’t lolis are amazing. Favorite characters is Rina and Grace. The music is nice and it runs smoothly. I am going to say that combat is simple. Basic attack to fill skill meter the use skill, swap attack when prompted and rinse and repeat till you get the ultimate. I’m about level 28 I played more so I can get further but it’s looking like the same. Dailies are easy to get over and stamina can be depleted in about 10-15 minutes. For first impressions it’s a solid 6/10. I also buy monthly packs for almost every Gacha that I play since it’s the best one to buy. I’m not paying for one in ZZZ. Also the TVs are just boring. Recently I was in one for about 8 minutes. The total amount of combat was 2.

wuwa dejó la vara muy alta

Quick fact: They don't have optimization issues because they got rid of every device that has optimization issues. As proof, they got rid of every android 11's and below.

If you like Wuthering Waves, you will like Punishing: Gray Raven as well. Just bear the early chapter story it will better in Chapter 10 and after that all Chapter is Peak. Its a Slow and Steady Game.

I like honest reviews👍🗿

I don't dislike the game, but I don't care for it either. It has some major flaws that are hard to overlook. The main problem for me isn't the combat. The exploration/map is nonexistent compared to Star Rail, Genshin, or Wuthering Waves. I will say I do enjoy the style, music, main character design and story. There is slightly too much story with very little gameplay, which could be fine if you are looking for more of a visual novel. While combat is very similar to Wuthering Waves it still feels worse. It may be because every location feels the same when in combat, even Soul Worker, which has larger hallways and different locations. I'm sadly not impressed while Genshin, Star Rail & Wuthering Waves are all mobile games they don't feel mobile comapred to this game. I will say the game is living up to it's name currently ZzZ.... as it can put you to sleep.

you're right about one thing. if the game fail to impress you from the beginning, you'll just lose interest and never touch it again. it happened to me with genshin. been trying the game since day 1, can only last an hour before i get bored. I've tried to play it again and again. it's been more than 5 times I've reinstalled genshin. but each of them only last half to an hour. my day 1 account still stuck on moonstadt. but still, ZZZ manage to make me keep playing the game for more than an hour. so, it is good. but not my cup of tea.

I didn't try it yet, but I saw some streamers playing it, and its true it looks like more story than gameplay, I was waiting for the fight and gameplay but it was all dialogue and talking, it looks like it should had been a single player game like Persona or something, it would had been waaaay better in my opinion

WuWa ruin this game for me.😂

I play other gacha games and while I think ZZZ has great art direction, music, characters, etc, the game doesn't really bring anything new to the table for me. It kind of reminded me of some of the things I didn't like in genshin and while I play HSR, I don't need to play another (mihoyo) game that has the same formulaic character progression system. I give Wuthering Waves a pass at least because the game feels alot more enjoyable to me and improved on most of the aspects of genshin, (including the grinding shit). So after a couple hours of ZZZ, I uninstalled it. If people enjoy it, great, but I personally found myself getting bored and switching to something else.

so after saying to every one that the live stream was disappointed and all the other think I said about the game.... I got many mean/aggressive comments... I tried the game and my initial thought still Remain.... this game is Disappointing....

i also agree that this game is more for the story and lore than gameplay. The gameplay feels smooth and cool (sliding with billy is fun) but it is kinda bare like you said. My first impression was actually really good, this game is such a vibe and i like how the world’s building up with the factions, proxies and hollow raiders. Overall i do enjoy this game, but i just cant see myself playing this as a live service, especially since this game takes up so much space on my device…

I love the gameplay😭😭 I dunno yall maybe I'm different

I like it, i can see why people dont tho

if somehow they just allowed us to skip the whole tv system then it would be from a 6/10 to a 7/10.

Personally dropped zzz around level 22 I just didn't find it very engaging and wanted to put that time into other things. Game really felt like it lacked depth.

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Nice Video !!

my thoughts are pretty simple, TVs are a bore (Dealing with them but my patience is low) the Combat is very Straightforward and Buttonmashing like everyone has said but maybe i just enjoy that kind of Gameplay the Story and characters has been Pretty Amazing, Story was a bit touch and go at thet start but it's gotten better in Ch. 2. I will probally stick around a bit longer becuase of the characters, Thats really the only thing keeping me interested.

Lmao and ppl thought this wpuld take the spotlight away from wuwa

ZZZ at its current state should be marketed as a "Visual story game with combat on the side".

if i was into mobile games rn id like it more, still pretty

Ready by for Silet Hill Trol? LoL

It's somewhat Ironic the dev, named it ZZZ as they probably hoped that the game will not be boring and made people go "zzz". But as some wise people has said, "a name is a prayer", and they got exactly what the name actually meant. BUT JOKES ON ME AS IT WILL PROBABLY BE TOPPING CHART THIS MONTH! LMAO!

yea some reason the beginning lore is LONG AF. It really was ZZZ's like she said

It just looks good. I feel bad people who want to play zzz for combat. It's none exist. Its just TV simulation.

You have a strong voice. Like the voice of a singer.

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I've played Honkai Impact 3rd honestly this is just 2.0 of it since they're just cash cowing old players after kiana graduation im done with it, bcuz ive been playing since GGZ and i just wanted the kiana journey.

if i don't experience wuwa combat first i think i might swallow this shit game tbh

True Zzz amazing game and have a good story, yeah! The gameplay good its flashy, the animation, the UI, there is more good about this game but i feel not satisfied.. having all off that, i feel there is no hype to that game. Hype that make you play this game for very long time. Its just that, Zzz is similar vibes to my childhood playing playstation or xbox games and it make me feel sleepy playing the games.

Game is boring you spend more time in tv mode than actually gameplay And more time clicking away dialogs All the hype is just because its hoyo game

Most of the game pulls me away from what I "spend money" on, namely the characters and weapons. Those characters play no part in the TV segments. The characters play no part in the town travels. They only play a part in combat. TV segments shove all the story into the top right corner which is a terrible implementation. I'm reading the story/instructions in something that fits 1/50th of my screen. The town travels look terrible. I've seen this in games 20 years ago. Nothing innovative with the environment. I'm hoping at endgame, I won't have to deal with these things

my opinion change every day from day 1-3. day 1 = this game sucks day 2 = this game really sucks day 3 = i think this game gives good message. i think we didnt get the message of developer . they named it Zzz, They made the progression (TV) so boring, They made the combat looks good but very simple, They made the story about FOMO, Mental illness, and you should sleep and dont watch HP at night. The developers want us to stop playing game !!!! I really believe CCP asked hoyo to combat and cure young chinese people from gaming addiction .

Game needs to be engaging from the beginning. WuWa has a crap story in the beginning, but the gameplay got the me engaged all the way to the end. ZZZ story is mid but not dreadful. The TV system, the introduction to the game, and the gameplay (especially story... like how many steps do I have to do just to fight for like 1 minute...) If they remove the TV system and make it more like a dungeon crawling system like Persona 5, I bet a lot of people will stay engage. if am trying to find the fun of this game after sinking in hours.. it's not good. I am not dropping ZZZ because I love fighting games and I love the animation and vibe of this game, but for now it's in the back burner. I already played 25ish hours (I went degenerate of this game) and reached endgame, so im going uninstall this game cuz I need my Elden Ring back and pick it up once I hear some juicy updates from Hoyo (coping)

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But they said the same thing about WuWa that it was a left click simulator. In ZZZ I feel like you spam dodge and switch for counters just as much as the atk button.

alright so my opinion on this ga... sry, I fell asleep

For me, ZZZ is one of the worst gacha game hoyo's ever made, i mean, they literally just making HI3 part 2 at this point, nothing's new, I downloaded it yesterday play for about couple of hours, got bored and uninstalled it, the same happen to me when trying to go back to Genshin, download it play about couple of minutes got bored, uninstall again. 😢

music - good graphic - good core gameplay - zzz combat - designed for blind people, i tried to close my eye to play, only by listening the every bling sound i could parry and kill the boss without any issues, and boosting the mouse market, my mouse is going to broke if i keep playing for like a week, so i uninstalled

if Elly is a casual, then I have a girlfriend. As you can see none of these statement are true.

Me when I play zzz: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

a game that was advertised as combat focused? only 6% is combat? hoyoverse as always, I give up on hoyoverse games they just keep messing up their games

Zzz combat shines in hollow zero

It's fell like you play an animation rather than a game...

it's good to stop before you spend any money on it this game is not an other main stream open world action rpg game not every one gonna like it this game is for people who done with open world and walking and from the footage i do see why you would think combat is not good that billy game play hurt my bone that a minimum damage gameplay for billy

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I think the style of the game is too focused on kids and the gameplay is too simple plus the lack of content, it's no gonna a appeal a lot of people already enjoying wuwa. It simply doesn't have something better than other games already available.

keep in mind im new to gatcha mobile games, ima a dmc/mgr beonetta type gamer so to me wuthering waves combat is mid at best. zzz combat is slightly better it's very low skill. but I'm not even expecting alot since it's a mobile game. overall I feel like it's better than wuwu combat wise

Mediocre cash grab game, just like what's happening in movies just checking marks to cover all identities

Another luke warm take.

I just want to say that I respectfully disagree with all of the negative criticisms surrounding the game. As much as I’d love to address every single point that people make, that’d take more time than it’s worth and I just want to play the game I like. I like the characters, the story is one of Hoyo’s best already even though we only have the first handful of chapters (although themes aren’t particularly deep, character interaction is super solid and the writing has a lot of heart). The gameplay is super satisfying because of the crisp polished animations and sound design. In terms of style, presentation, and execution, ZZZ has captivated my interest unlike any other game has before. I tried playing Wuthering Waves, and it’s fine, it just feels like a more streamlined Genshin. I expected more coming from the company that made Punishing Gray Raven. ZZZ however exceeded my expectations a hundred-fold. I was going in not expecting to like a majority of the characters save for my few favorites, but the stories surrounding them have really endeared me to their personalities. Hell, I’m even invested in the minor side quests involving NPC’s. The world of ZZZ feels actually lived in, without the tacky worldbuilding that Genshin had in it’s first few chapters, or the frankly uninteresting characterizations of the people we meet in the first two Star Rail arcs (my favorite Star Rail characters have always been SW and Kafka and that hasn’t changed ever since the betas). I don’t want to throw any shade, that’s not my intent when I talk about this game, but I have to say that I truly feel like people aren’t giving the game the chance that it deserves. Hoyo is doing something special here that they’ve never done since Honkai Impact 3rd. Although the style and tone is massively different compared to HI3, I feel like the heart and soul in terms of both gameplay and writing has been refined and carried over from HI3, which would make sense since I’ve heard that ZZZ’s dev team is partially made up of the old devs who worked on Honkai pre-Flamescion arc along with new hires. Those are my two cents though. I’m not asking for anybody to agree with me, hell, I’m not expecting anybody to even bother entertaining my opinion at all, but I think people are parroting the same words to each other too much. I just felt like I had to say something different. That’s all

I think you should play more and at least finish the story.