Soon as I saw the Colorado sign at the beginning I knew the C8 was gonna get spanked vs the forced induction ZL1. Altitude kills naturally aspirated cars’ performance, as can be seen by its 110 mph trap.
Those ZL1 Camaro's are badass, I pretty much like all of the newer muscle cars that have come out in the last 10 years or so. If I had to pick just one, I like the ZL1. Ever since the 6th gen came out the ZL1 has been at the top of my list.
Why are so many people confused. 1) Bandimere +8000 DA. Cost a NA car a second from sea level. 2) Vette has street tires. He wasn't a JA that rolls through the burnout box and carries water to the line. He went outside did a quick clean and staged.
He probably had a plenum cover for the root style blower. That’s what I had on mine and it made the blower 4x louder didn’t increase power at all. Look up NX meth injection cover lt4. I planned on adding meth in future but never did and sold the car.
Elevation kills horsepower on naturally aspirated engines like the C8’s, while forced induction engines like the ZL1 won’t take that hit. At 5800 feet, which is the elevation of Bandimere raceway, the Corvette would be down 86 hp, or 17% off of its rated horsepower.
Once the Camaro gets a good launch, it was all over for the vette. That's why vette guy didn't gun it. (As seen by the 110mph trap speed. Even at that altitude the vette should've ran 116mph).
Stock C8s up here in Colorado trap between 108 and 110. Kinda sad my 06 C6 Z06 went 12.6 @116 bone stock with a toyo proxi tire. D.A. was 8000 feet that night.
You have a C6 ZO6, you should know that your car is putting out nearly 100 more horsepower than that C8 even if those altitudes, plus you're lighter. So of course the c6 z06 going to outperform the C8. Nice car though.
@@williama3665 Oh don't kid yourself. New Corvettes have never been priced for middle class. GM can say whatever they want but "affordable" is a relative term. That is why the Camaro exists.
Re altitude in Colorado, regarding that single point, the supercharged Camaro would retain its sea level performance and the normally aspirated corvette would lose approximately 5" of manifold pressure, which will hurt power output some. Is some specific enough?
@Sean Not necessarily. If the blower/turbos can move enough CFM then they can maintain sea level-like numbers. Increasing air volume is kind of their entire purpose.
That ZL1 has lower times in it. Even on street tires. I raced a C8 Z06 recently only reason I beat him is he botched launch control. Gave me a 0.8 second lead, and there wasn't enough road to close the gap. While he pulled 11.2 I pulled a 11.8. Don't get me wrong, looking at the time slip he closed that gap the entire length of the track. He just needed more length to pass me. I know that ZL1 has more in it than this video shows.
@@bman99ss you generally do a dry hop after the burnout to test traction... The c8 stock does not need to do this on a prep track with stock power levels, the car hooks on the street no issue what's the point of the dry hop...
Looking to trade in my 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat Widebody for a new one however, Dodge ended production and have canceled thousands of orders that were on the books. I can get one off a dealer lot but picking are slim. The leftovers are not the color or options I want for $100,000. 2024 ZL1 Camaro is my next everyday driver for $20,000 less.
I love how ever body wants to race the base stingray in cars that are obviously not base cars with blowers and they think they have a accomplished something. Try racing the C8 Z06 things will be different. For that matter a C7 Z06 would blow the doors off a ZL1 Camaro.
At pretty much the same price point the camaro wins. But the fact this is the entry level vette.... i say less. Basically camaro maxed out whereas the vette still has models to go.
Lol. Some of yall trying to understand how elevation affects times; but are too dense to understand that there is a 150hp deficit to begin with. C8 has no chance past a few hundred feet. The ZL1s HP will reel it in. Sea level or not.
I’ve raced so many zl1 in my c8 and blown the doors offs the cam. The c8 hooks and should have been down the track before the camero. But the camero got this one.
Its true that vette should have pulled a car length in the first hundred ft but both cars have broken into the 10's completely stock but under optimal conditions. The ZL1 will still take 9 of 10 races on any given race day. That being said, on the streets the C8 is a absolute murderer from stoplight to stoplight.
I have been in the passenger seat of my son’s C8 and witnessed first hand getting the best of a ZL1(stoplight to stoplight). Guess the altitude nerfed to C8 but at 600’+/- sea level where I live this was not the outcome. Side note, my son has preordered a C8 Z06, can’t wait to see the performance of the Z06
Someone teach the camaro owner basic track etiquette. He is dragging water down the track every pass. You don't roll through the water box unless you are on slicks and skinnies which he is not.
C8 has 495 hp rated from factory most likely less than that at wheels, while ZL1 has 650hp 650 ft lbs of torque less at wheels but still almost over 200hp more, almost same weight Camaro a little heavier but still light, of course ZL1 will win. How ever if both had same amount of power and torque C8 would smoke the Camaro by far
That's understandable. Be glad that at least 1 time Camaro won the Corvette. Especially soon there will be a version of the Z06 and ZR1, and the seventh-generation Camaro may not have. At least with an internal combustion engine.
I get this drag strip is at high altitude but even so these cars all stock generally run 11.40s -11.60s pretty easy have seen them run all stock 10.90s the higher altitude l can see adding 3 or 4 tenth or 11.90s -12.0s not 12.70s l don't know what the malfunction is but 12.70s are not typical times for a new C8 even at higher altitude maybe at 14,000 feet above sea level
No it is the altitude 100%. DA here averages over 8000. It is pretty standard that a NA car looses a full second here. Forced induction vehicles not as much. No air... No power. Just how it is.
@@Chris-ng6kn My stock Scat Pack could barely squeeze a 13.8 out on a 9,000 DA day at Bandimere...Dash showed 13.9 because it only has one number behind the decimal so it rounds up...in Greeley, which is about 1,000 feet lower it shows 13.2...so at sea level it should be about where Dodges says it should be...every NA car loses ET up here. I don't know why no one believes us.
Bold statement.. you make tat assumption on 1 race? as it is now they’re comparable in the quarter mile. the c8 is capable of low 11’s and the zl1 mid 11’s given the right driver and conditions. I’ve raced against a c8 and they’re faster than the zl1 with only 495hp and when the 640hp comes out the ZL1 is done.
@@edwmedeiros Bro I'm talking about this race right here. You can add variables and what if scenarios, and then the conversation changes. Anyone who knows cars knew this particular race was going to the ZL1 out of the gate.
This is Colorado right? That means they are at 5000 feet elevation. The forced induction car would have a huge advantage here. At sea level they should be pretty even.
@@Tommy1198S Well if you watched the race the reaction time of the Vette IMO was actually better than that of the ZL1 driver. So a lack of reaction didn't come into play here. As far as experience goes sure I'd agree with that. All things being equal someone with more experience will most likely have better reaction. Again I don't think that came into play here. The ZL1 has a better power to weight ratio and that's why he won.
I just love when these new vets get their butts dragged. I love the look on their faces when my 1967 427 Biscayne, with Holley efi drags their butts. This was my first car I ever owned got her in 1970. 55 years old still runs like a spring chicken. My grandson is learning now.
I don’t know why people drag race corvettes, they have never been drag cars, they are Road course cars that there designed application. Not apples to apples. Camaro and a Challenger is apples to apples.
