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Singing and performing might be the passion of most pop stars, but the fact of the matter is that many of them are just delivery systems for commercially viable hits that are written and produced by a team of people that are better at marketing than they are at music, there's very little artistry involved. Eminem loves rap so much and is so deeply involved in every aspect of the music making process, I can't lump him in with Britney and Katy Perry. Mariah wrote and produced all of her music, she's a different level of musician than the majority of her peers, despite being a pop star. I won't ever tell somebody who truly loves what they do to stop, especially when they can still touch so many lives.
No, we should NOT bully them. We should stop interacting with their content altogether, more so if you dislike it. All you’re doing with your bullying is giving them more attention, more numbers and more traction. Don’t you see how the internet is nowadays people trying to get more views on social media by constantly making bait content? Saying hateful things on purpose, offensive things, because they know they will get attention that way?
Tbh...if an artist gets a big fat paycheck every year because their music is played ad nauseam, in my mind, they have won. Sooo many musicians barely make a dime from their music, and these artists literally get passive income from their songs. Good on them.
hi, camryn! could you make a video of “the problem with apology videos”? for example, not only explaining apology videos themselves but the way people receive them. i’ve seen plenty of apology videos and the one thing ive gotten from them is nobody cares what you have to say, they already have their mind set on “i don’t like you” when they see, for example, resurfaced tweets. this may be controversial, but whenever someone makes an apology video, it’s never going to go well. damned if you do & damned if you don’t, you know? for example, brooke scofield on her resurfaced racist tweets (one being about Trayvon Martin). i’m not here to defend her, but to acknowledged that nobody really knows what they want from an apology video. if you cry in the video, you might as well stop recording. nobody wants to see your “crocodile tears” and the “victimization”. from my pov, id understand being upset nd frustrated, especially when you know that you can’t come back from a tweet you posted a decade ago that only received 17 likes (maybe only 60-100 views?) regardless of what you do? if you bring up a back story, everyone is audibly sighing. now, i understand and eye roll at the backstory part myself. but it’s understandable why every apology video has one. most people want to slide in a sliver of a change to defend themselves and they do this through the backstory, sometimes. even if they are not, people don’t understand the difference between excuse and explanation. but nobody wants to hear the backstory, im assuming they just want to hear an “im sorry”, but even that isn’t enough. so what do people want? because when i ask and when others ask, they give the same answer “no victimization and a genuine apology”. but they don’t give specifics? they just say “genuine”, so what makes an apology video genuine? because it seems to me that nobody actually cares what you have to say? regardless if you leave it at a “i’m sorry, i have grown, and i will continue to grow”. or is the entire problem that people hold people with platforms to a higher standard and hold everything against them, even things they say when they’re under 18? is the problem the fact that people resurface things that haven’t seen the light of day since it’s been posted? the fact that people can’t understand that some people do change and that stuff they say before they wouldn’t even say in their darkest moments? i just wanted to give me few cents. i know a lot of people won’t agree with me but maybe this’ll start a conversation and have some people explain what apology videos they did accept and what they actually look for in apologies!
Club culture is dying because think about it.... Who really has a passion for clubbing? It's just something you do to let of steam every now and then. Human nature is the desire to create and be simulated. Clubbing was never simulating it was just something to do because I didn't have much else to do. As an older woman I'm into gardening, creating music and art, cooking, working out, things that raise my vibration. Besides when I get in here cooking and cleaning that's my clubbing time. Throw on some throwback music sipping my wine... Yesssss that's it for me
It’s because mfs are so socially awkward that they make lettin loose awkward cus you’ll be the only one in there on energy n they’ll just watch and laugh
Maybe it's not cuz "the music is not hitting the same as it used to" it's just that people (fans) will complain no matter what these artist do today, for example Beyoncé release the country album and some people all over Twitter was saying they hate it they want old pop/R&B Beyonce what does she made the same music she did 20 years ago they will complain and say she doesn't evolve what is it going to be musical growth, play she'll be stuck in the 2000s with Ashanti Ciara and Keyshia Cole etc. who's music didnt evolved. Nicki Minaj went pop in her early career but didn't stay there too long but did other things, even Chris Brown wouldn't be Chris Brown today if he was doing just r&b, he stepped out and did EDM Afro beats, pop, rap. To be an artist that wants to stay at the Top for a long time, you have to be able to switch up and evolve with the times music is changing.
Camryn, talking about British girl groups and boybands, you forgot to mention groups such as Take That, 5ive, Sugababes, Girls Aloud and The Saturdays.
Honestly I feel like due to streaming and self curation as well as social media creating echo chambers, there’s been a loss of superstars… Gaga might’ve been the last REAL one, where EVERYONE had to have an opinion on her and she got clicks, and shifted the culture around her. After her, edm took the charts. Taylor might be the closest we can get to that now cause right now everyone has an opinion on her, be it negative or positive. I think we’re just gonna get already established acts being superstars, without new ones because they had to have been around before the loss of the monoculture. After Taylor… I think we’re not gonna have anymore big stars ever again… cause once the loss of the monoculture happened, it’s difficult or impossible to get someone to grab everyone’s attention. Cause the ppl that like rap and rnb would not care or listen to someone in the likes of Taylor or Olivia. And the other way around, too. And someone like Kim Petras and slayyyter with ruling hyperpop and internet pop will not rlly grab Taylor or weeknd fans. But ultimately it might be ok? It doesn’t necessarily have to be a bad thing, maybe liking music would be a bigger bonding thing than in the past now, cause it means you are likely to have more in common.
I HAAAATTTTEEEE sections. My friends make fun of me because whenever we go out and I get a few drinks in me, I leave the section and start walking around the club. Going out to stand in a little section with my homeboys while we bob our heads to music and take shots isn't fun. I wanna meet some new people, I wanna dance with some girls. If we were just gonna post up and drink and not socialize we could've done that in somebody's living room.
Excellent coverage you did here! How sad and pathetic the scene has become. So glad I got to experience the 1980s and 1990s even a bit of the 1970. I tell younger folks that I feel so bad for them cause they and their scene suck so much.
Thing is it all depends on the performance. Like someone said, if I go see Adele, Elton or for example Susan Boyle or Mariah and Whitney (if she were still alive, bless her soul). Like I know I’m going to hear vocalists whose appeal mostly lays in the voice, then I want to hear them sing. Especially because that’s all the value there is to their performances: they wear great dresses and perhaps have great talking breaks moments but their performance is centered around the voice. If I go seeing an artist like Britney or Janet Jackson and Madonna, I know that they might not be singing live, but to compensate for that they give everything else: dance, concepts, visual effects, dancers, theatrics. Like there are artists like a Beyoncé Gaga and Pink who have a good balance of being able to give dance, theatrics, special effects and also vocals. Also, singing over backing track that is backing vocals shouldn’t be considered anything bad or “scammy” considering that a lot of songs we hear in studio versions often are made with vocals getting stacked, even in those tracks thst you wouldn’t be able to tell
i remember when back then, to be an artist, you had to prove to the entire world that you were actually talented instead of just being famous for your personality. this new wave of "artists" have really lost the plot and aren't doing it for me.
I've been trying to see the difference between Megan thee Stallion's Thot Sh... video, and KP's new one. I'm a big Megan fan, and I think her video works. Is it because Megan is not trying to put a feminist front on her video, and the song is embracing lascivious behaviour, whilst Katy's is ironic, trying to have a feminist message whilst visually not. Why does one work and the other not work?
Even before the 2024 grammys i said that midnights waant going to win album of the year because it was nothing new. And as a swiftie that award should have gone to Sza.
To vouch for the djs alot of establishments are forcing to djs to play specific genres and like Top 40 hits and if a dj doesn't stay in those guidelines he's replaced with the next person who will.
❤❤❤ all these issues are very much so in the popular music space. Pop music and rap most likely and I can agree with ur points. This is why I go on PHISH tour. They are all like 60 year old dudes but they still are putting out new albums... newest being called evolve 😂 Seriously tho its amazing on phish tour its basically the grateful dead type vibe and a mini festival bc there is a lot that u can hangout in with vendors and food ect b4 the show. Its something special. I still love pop music tho. I liked Eminem new album! 🎉🎉
I’m often shocked by the public’s inability to identify pre-recorded “live” vocals (i.e. AR). Most performances today are a mix of live and AR and a lot of people get fooled. The unfortunate consequence of people being so accustomed to this today, is that you will sometimes hear authentically live raw audio criticised as “shaky” or poor quality because they’re used to 80% AR performances. I saw Usher’s SuperBowl Halftime show criticised for poor audio quality and a shaky vocal, but Usher opted to sing fully live, while dancing, with very minimal playback, which is extremely rare to see nowadays. Between having pitch correction in live mics, and being able to fix any mistakes in post, it begs the question, what is truly ‘live anymore anyway’? 🌴
Literally, i would say a small small fraction of performances are completely live. And thanks for pointing Usher out, absolutely crushed the superbowl while singing live, dancing and giving a show. The last of a rare breed
so on the kpop topic- i think it's safe to say that most of us kpop fans are completely fine with idols lipping during their performances when they have heavy choreography that makes it virtually impossible to sing. backing track is often utilized in most kpop performances and shows, and i don't really mind it since i can hear the idols over the track most of the time. le sserafim started gaining negative attention when they won an award for their song (on a music show) and performed a live encore that wasn't the best thing in the world... and it happened more than once. the worst part is that the live encore didn't involve any dancing, they were standing still. even before they went to coachella, people were already doubting their capabilities due to the encores, and netizens absolutely bashed them for not being able to sing even without choreography. this was the same with ive since they were sitting on stage and the lip syncing wasn't even believable 😭😭 girl barely opened her mouth for a high note most idols undergo training before they debut, and sometimes companies do be rushing them thru this stuff- i think idols should fully flesh out their dancing, singing, etc. before debuting since they'll most likely be more successful that way. also le sserafim's management should totally consider their vocal ranges as well, their bad encores weren't entirely their fault. whether an idol sings live or on backtrack or lip syncs the whole song is often up to their management, and it does seem like a bit of self-sabotage if the company prioritizes your looks over giving you vocal lessons and/or letting you sing live so you can cultivate the skill. aespa is a group i love that can absolutely sing live but don't bc SM entertainment isn't letting them, they aren't even lowering the volume of the backtrack so i can hear my girls 😭 but the bottom line is that y'all should be able to sing, esp if y'all ain't dancing 👀👀
I think it can be partially used in design. When I worked for a small indie game company our artists hated making UI buttons. This task is timeconsuming, with almost no creativity, pure grinding. Only few of them agreed to do most of UI interfaces. From time to time we were trying to find and buy ui packs on the market but it was usually very hard to find smthign that fit a specific project in mood or artstyle. Same goes for some webdesigners I know. They say it's not a creative job. You just know what things work and you do it mechnically as a robot and not an actual artist. A lot of content we see in gaming, animation and any other kind of visual product IS a hard job. And it is not payed as well as it should be and many ppl wuit these jobs because no human should grind that hard to live a life. I am not positive, rather cautious. But I want to believe that AI in visual arts will open a new era of art itself. When ppl will realise our own worth and when we will start doing actual art for ppl to consume, discuss, think, love and hate and not just some random visual viral products companies want from us to earn them money. I wonder if that can be applied to music but your example with actors was also quite promissing. You cannot substitute "tallent" (or w/e you call it: hard work, skill etc.) with AI, no matter how expensive that AI is. Maybe AI will help us to get rid of fame-hyngry lazy talentless creators
I quit a job because they played the same 30 songs every day and I begged them to change it to a different playlist that is clean and appropriate and they refused and it genuinely drove me insane when I was there
Thank you for the analysis, it's very eye-opening 💖 Do you have any ideas on where it all would go from now on? Do you think the artists will try to adjust to the new reality or maybe try to create a competitive platform to put their music videos on? After all the entire music video trend came from people trying to break the mould, so it doesn't sound so unrealistic that they would try to establish something new again.
Ive been wondering what happened to pop is it dead dead I haven't heard a new pop song in forever and the radio stations that used to play pop now play country its like totally gone
In my personal opinion she's just very boring and being pretty is her whole personality. That's why I'm put off about her. I would argue her and Tyla are equally beautiful, but Tyla has personality. She's really connected with her music, her craft and she knows how to dance. There's more to her than just being a pretty face.
Katy Perry's musical challenges can be traced back to her 'Witness' album period. Since 'Prism,' her sound has consistently felt outdated and derivative. She seems unable to adapt to contemporary pop music trends. Rather than innovating or exploring fresh sounds, her work often comes across as repetitive, recycling styles from past decades with little originality beyond her name attached. I had so much expectation of her that i thought she would be up there with Lady Gaga with her Chromatica or Beyonce with her Reneissance but nope were back on basic sound monotonous tiktok music.
I watched another video in which the writer explained why black female artists in particular are compared vocally over the years, and per his assessment it comes down to practice. Artists like Whitney Houston, Patti LaBelle, and Aretha Franklin spent hours per week in choir as well as church. Whitney in particular went through an entire training camp before she went public. From what I understand the artists who lip sync now don't have that grassroots upbringing for the vocals and may have to resort to lip syncing. And my personal opinion is at we're moving away from vocal fry in a lot of songs, and vocal fry is often used to cover up lack of applied fundamentals and breath control while singing, so lip syncing chooses for us when to sustain and hold breaths. 🌴
I think i’ve seen that video! I can’t remember it by name right now, but I remember them talking about practice hours and how black female artist back in the day we often coming from the church setting where they had choir rehearsals & saying/consistently!
