We’ve had ours for about 1200 miles. I’m not digging the 4.56 gears one bit. It is so bad-that if I don’t get them changed, I’ll get rid of this brand new JEEP.
What's wrong with this picture? A guy works as an Amazon driver and drives a fancy jeep to drop off packages. Kind of reminds of the commercial where a guy works as a pizza delivery driver driving a fancy BMW to deliver pizza.
Have you looked into the Tazer No Limitz device to get rid of the cylinder deactivation? I bought my Wrangler 392 in 2022 and couldn’t stand when it dropped into 4 cylinder mode. It bugged me so much that I purchased a DiabloSport programmer with an unlocked PCM just to disable it. I like the Taser option more since you don’t need an unlocked PCM, but what’s done is done. Anyway, great video. I totally agree with your pros, but I never did have 2 of the cons (hesitation, adaptive cruise rattle).
I have not looked into that but sounds like a good option. I've actually kind of gotten used to the cylinder deactivation since I published this. Lol! I'm still not sure if it actually helps with mpg at all but just gotten used to it as a quirk of the beast. lol! And thank you! I've since made an update to this video and erased a few of the cons. Sounds like you're enjoying yours!
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy I absolutely love mine! If all the parts arrive this week, I should be installing an AEV lift with 37’s. Fingers crossed that it comes out riding better than stock. Keep the videos coming brother! Your videos are one of the few I enjoy watching.
I think you’ll be impressed by the AEV kit. I have the 3” HD AEV dualsport and it rides and drives great! It no longer bottoms out like the stock XR suspension did. And thank you for the kind words! It means a lot!
My tires were aired down to around 15 psi. Looking back, I probably should have lowered them to between 10-12. Might have added some traction and enlarged the footprint, keeping them from digging in the sand as much. And I absolutely had it in 4hi the entire way. The 392 has an AWD t-case that needs to be in 4-hi part-time in order to keep from wearing out the internal clutches.
In your opinion could an off grid travel trailer survive the trip to Javelin Pens or any other campsites in Big Bend Ranch State Park? I want to get my wife involved in off-roading but she refuses to give up a sit down toilet and daily showers. That's just the way she is and there is no force on the planet powerful enough to get her to change her little ol' Texas mind. My thoughts are to haul our trailer to a campsite, detach it and then go offroading. I have a lifted Power Wagon on 37's so I'm not concerned about the truck I just don't want to destroy our brand new trailer on its first outing.
Oh I hear ya! There’s a reason why my wife is never on any of my camping adventures unless there is a fully enclosed trailer anymore. 😂 And I guess it depends on what type of “off grid trailer” you’ll be bringing. I want to say it should be fine. It’ll probably also depend on whether it has an articulating hitch or not. The Javalin Pens campsite was used as an equestrian starting location in the past. The power wagon will have no issue other than maybe pin stripping.
I have an AEV JL370 and and I agree with you. You should try the optional Bilstein 8100 shocks. Amazing. I damaged the steering stabilizer offroad and and have upgraded the undercarriage with Steersmart, Artec, and a few other parts. Now, it is time to upgrade to a 392 AEV build..... but the cost!
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy I'm now on 38s with Terraflex brakes. With all of the other weight that has been added to the Jeep, the Steersmart track bar and other parts made a huge difference in stiffening the steering. It was a great suggestion by a local Jeep shop. So glad I listened.
Owned this model, in white (without a convertible option) for about 8-10 years. Best friend ordered it originally & parked it for many years until we took it off of his hands. Same options - 5 speed, interior AND a cig lighter! 🤣 Drove it today for the 3rd time in my life, for a Dr appt. I only drive my main Mustang chick (even though I'm a chick, too) I actually enjoyed watching others on the road, while driving the cobra, more than I did myself. 😂 I have a 2006 grocery-getter 5 speed GT that JUST had a flat 3 days ago, so it sat for the last few days while the tires arrived yesterday, via tirerack. 😢 The 3rd Mustang (1990 LX) is resting in the garage, too, waiting for cosmetic goodies to be installed, after a big engine overhaul. I drove that for about a hundred years, beforehand. Thanks for keeping great cars alive!
Nice video, thanks. I’m talking to a guy to buy his - a 1999 model m1102. He says it has no brakes - just an emergency system brake that engages if you lose the trailer. Can anyone explain the brake system on these for me? I thought they all had surge brakes on them.
I believe they come with them but I’ve read about people removing them and switching to an electric setup. Or, for added clearance, some people have flipped the surge brake assembly on the hitch. So, it’s definitely something that’s removable. Perhaps what the guy was referring to was the surge brakes. I could see them engaging when the trailer is unhooked, maybe. It definitely doesn’t have live brakes that work in tandem with the tow vehicle’s. Just speculating that might be what he meant by “no brakes”.
You are correct. But, I think the surge brakes only engages during hard braking or emergency braking. Not during just regular braking. At least that's my understanding of it. I could be wrong though. I don't really feel it working but perhaps it has in the past. Some people have claimed that it can lock the brakes when backing up on an incline, causing damage to the hitch or hitch assembly. But I have not experienced this either. There's a Facebook group called "M1101 and other military trailers" that I am a member of. I'm going to ask someone on there as they seem to have very knowlegeable people about the M1101/2. I will let you know what I find out.
This appears to be the best answer I've gotten so far. "That person was mistaken, it is a surge brake, with a breakaway brake feature as well. (do NOT move that lever into the breakaway brake position, you can't just flip it back off, requires some work to release and reset it). Anytime you slow the tow vehicle it will apply some braking dependent on how much the trailers surge brake is compressed, same as your vehicle brakes are controlled by how much pressure you apply with your foot. It varies by how much weight is in the trailer, how quickly your tow vehicle is stopping, uphill/downhill etc. Hence the term surge brake. It is always active when in stock form. ALSO, from what I remember the brake fluid used by military in the trailers is synthetic based and the closest thing, from what I understand, commercially available is DOT5 synthetic. Verify that by checking the cap etc." So, it sounds like it should have the surge brakes and they have the emergency break away feature. I hope this helps!
One of the complaints that I have with the kiddie engineers that Jeep used for the JL is that they took things that worked, changed them, and then had to add more things to fix the problems that the new things introduced... Because they decided to have the stupid A-S-S (Auto-Stop-Start) system and wanted to provide for a future "mild hybrid" design, they had to go with an electro-hydraulic power steering pump. Unfortunately, that pump is not powerful enough (pressure and flow rate is too low) to be able to run a hydraulic winch. So, instead of being able to use a MileMarker hydraulic winch that has a 100% duty cycle, you get stuck using crappy electric winches that have a 5% duty cycle. I'm not picking on HF about this -- ALL the electric winch manufacturers have ridiculously low duty cycle ratings. I used my MileMarker hydraulic winch on my XJ after a hurricane to move large trees that had blown down. The pieces of the trees were so heavy that I had to chain the rear of my XJ to another tree to keep it from getting pulled towards the downed tree. Even blocking the tires with logs didn't help -- I just got pulled over the logs. That winch was pulling pretty much non-stop for the entire day. *That* experience sold me on hydraulic winches. The only advantages of electric winches is that they are easier to install and they cost less.
Sounds like hydraulic winch is the way to go. Especially if you’re going to be using it on a regular basis. For me, I’ve been fortunate enough to only have needed one less than a handful of times. And had this one not been as affordable as it was, I probably would still not have one.
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy -- The only (slight) advantage that an electric winch has (other than cost) is that if the vehicle is not running, you might be able to still pull your vehicle a few feet just on battery power. I've never been in that situation,but I've definitely been in situations where I would have exceeded the duty cycle on an electric winch.
Yeah, a lot of the JL’s body is made of aluminum. Although, on the 392, the hood is made of steel, unlike non 392s, I believe in order to accommodate the weight of the hydroguide features.
@@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy -- I was wanting to use a magnetic mount for something on my JL at some point and was using some pretty hefty magnets. I put one up to the windshield frame and no luck... Then tried various other places because I was a bit curious at that point and all of them were non-magnetic also... I didn't investigate whether the pieces were aluminum or a non-magnetic alloy of stainless steel... If I remember correctly, the rear quarter panel was magnetic though... I found that a bit odd...
@@seanseoltoir Interesting. If you don't mind me asking, what was it that your trying to mount that used magnets? I do believe the tailgate uses a mixture of magnesium and aluminum or something like that.
Great video. I was on the other side of the cut last week. Came up from South Padre. Watched a guy reel in a 8 foot hammerhead. I love it there. Also, @ 16:45 appears to be a salt marsh/wooly bear caterpillar.
Thank you! 8 foot hammerhead, wow! I’ve been wanting to come up the south side of the cut. And I thought that it looked like a caterpillar. Just didn’t think they hung out on the beach.
392 is awsome but hell the fuel milage is horrible hahaha. ill stick to my 2023 high tide with its poopy v6. never ventured to the north side but i do go to south padre island ocasionaly to the east cut since im from the rgv. Awsome vid by the way!
It was only that bad because the sand was thick and I was pulling a 2000 lb trailer. A V6 pulling the same setup would probably had been the same if not worse. Without the trailer, on dirt roads, I got around 14mpg on a recent trip.
It looks OK although it breakes the symmetry of the rear end. I'd consider getting one of these but the price tag of $355 is completely ridiculous for what it is.
I told my wife its 4 cars in one! A sports car, a muscle car, a convertible (if you get the Sky Top) AND a Jeep, so look how much money I'm saving by buying just ONE car, LOL.
There is a saying out there that justifies all this. When you go out to the parking lot to turn your car on, it should return the favor! That pretty much sums it up.
I know its apples to oranges, but when everyone complains about the high cost of these, on the one hand, I agree. But I was a shop owner for 30 years working on all manner of vehicles. The amount of tech built into these is huge and amazing. As for the apples to oranges, I know LOTS of people who have almost this much tied up in there new RZR Pro Ultimate SxS. Which has no air bags, no windows, no air conditioning, no safety equipment, on and on. And don't even get me started on comparing a 392 to some kind of Range Rover...392 will literally run circles around it.
Very true! And if you compare it to something similar like the Mercedes G Wagen (solid axles, body on frame, fast v8) it also starts to not seem as far fetched what they charge for these. The 2024 V6 JLU Rubicons can be optioned up there pretty high and the MSRP on those is getting really close to (or above) what you can find some decent used 392s from 21-22. In the end, it’s all about what satisfies you for the money you are spending. Great perspective!
Why didn’t you used 4 high auto might have reduced stress on engine and rear axle and there’s no point of using 93 octane those engines are designed to run on normal 87 you are probably just wasting your money!
4 high auto is mainly in rear wheel drive unless the axle slips. Then it uses clutch packs to transfer power to the front axle. So, you're basically still in 2WD. Especially while on the highway, in dry conditions. And although the 2.0 Turbo 4cyl will run off less octane than 93 premium, to obtain maximum power and efficiency, 93 is recommended. Especially when towing under heavy load, I wanted the maximum amount of power possible. And even then, it still had to work like a dog. It just was not the ideal setup for towing. It did it far greater than I expected it to. But still not ideal.
I believe the weight difference in the m1101 and m1102 is just for military classification for air lifting etc. the two trailers are identical in parts.
Some old buddies and I sort of made a 20 year reunion out of the hill country trial around back in April last year. We left out of Fredericksburg and followed the "red trail" on Gaia Maps and it eventually spits you out on to 71 over by Horseshoe Bay. Not a bad little drive, took our time, stayed at Dos Rios which was absolutely crawling with people but not a terrible place to stay just not great either though. I like the look of Leifeste Camping a little better and will probably give it look the next time I run that trail.
You’re right. I stayed at Dos Rios once. And although I was just glad there was a place to stay and primitive camp, it can get quite crowded. Leifeste has a much more natural and remote setting.
Trail is big statement for a bunch of county and farm roads. As I see more and more videos of these roads people need to be careful. Farmers are not to fond of strangers driving around those roads.
You are absolutely correct. As I filmed the extro to this video, the person who passed me in the Tacoma, came back and asked me what I was doing here as I was technically standing on private property (although not his property). I told him I was filming a RU-vid video and he said to watch out as the owner would probably shoot me for standing where I was. Keep in mind I was literally yards from where the county dirt road spills onto a major US highway. I totally have respect for people’s property but didn’t think being pulled over on the side of the dirt road would be a big deal. But like you said, some are not fond of strangers being anywhere near their properties.
I been eying one of these trails in the Hill Country especially when in Fredericksburg. I appreciate you posting this one to get an idea. I have yet to take any of these trails. It's about a 4-5hr drive just to get there from my end so I have to pick my battles as well as I can hahhaa Went off an OnX trail and it was permanently closed so been checking trail reports. Great vid as always, man.
@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy ill look them up. I have 4 up on OnX myself. Problem here in Texas as you know is that it's mostly all private property. A lot of our trails are just back country roads hahaha
Yeah. I had a guy come up to me while I was filming the extro to the video and he told me I was on private property (not his, mind you) and said if the owner saw me there, I could be shot. I was just parked on the shoulder of the dirt road and was in front of a gate. He said that people aren't usually back on these roads unless they are "invited." I proceeded to tell him that the road was a public road, which he agreed with but as he drove away, told me to "watch where you go." First time I've ever encountered anyone like that.
@TheNotSoOrdinaryCarGuy I've heard that exact sentiment towards some friends out on these back roads. While I can understand trying to be protective of your home and privacy, it's totally the worst approach. This is Texas, after all. Lots of people hold to protect themselves, and theirs might take those statements very differently. Guess I'll stick to Big Bend, PINS, and my areas haha going back to Devil's River this following weekend with the wife. If you've never been, you should check it out. It's on Onx north of Del Rio. I posted it a year ago. Very cool and secluded area.
Oh I think I’ve read your report on Devil’s River. I remember looking at it on the app awhile back. I do want to check that area out! And yeah, that guy gave me a chuckle. Especially since it was t even his own property. The area behind the gate was cleared out for construction crews working on US 87 and it was leased out to them. He said they’d be “pissed” if they saw me parked where I was. Like, I get it too. I totally respect people’s private property and it’s nice having neighbors looking out for you. But I think that guy just had some beef or something.
