good points on the 3 phase and VFD. Most people don't understand the benefits of a 3 phase motor and VFD. besides being a longer lasting motor, the ability to "soft start" the motor, (the VFD is programed invariably to start the motor a bit softer and can usually be adjusted to be more or less delay) is very important for small shops that are close to their limit in power. The soft start makes the surge (inrush) power MUCH smaller and much less likely to trip breakers.
I've built custom vices for a friend of nine who is a joiner/master carpenter. . Being a welder fabricator and engineer. His vice is totally over engineered and over kill . But he's a happy chappy . You will forgive me if I don't show him this wonderful video. I couldn't bare the stress again. . Thank you for a great video. And all the best Pad from the uk 🇬🇧
Solid review. How did you get the ivac to work with the Harvey? When I turn off the ivac it shuts the power to the Harvey and then when it comes back on it doesn’t turn on the motor just the control panel. Is there some way to work around the power/control panel issue?
Screw + nut = BOLT The ignorance of the average "American" Joe is out of scale. The large majority of them, today, don't know what a bolt is. They call bolt a screw with a hexagonal head, but then they don't know how to call the joint screw+nut anymore. And those same 10!. TS are the one using this IDIOTIC terminology on the school books and catalogues. Sheeps with no brain. BTW, thanks for the video.
I totally agree. Honestly, sometimes you get into these projects and A leads to B, and before you know it your at Z, without really looking back. I have enjoyed the end results, its been rock solid and great. Thanks for the feedback!
Super helpful! Thank you. I think this is the best video I've found comparing the G800 with relevant Oneida options. For some reason, there's almost nothing on YT about the G800. Yeah, the Harvey marketing scheme is pretty annoying.
@@pixelwoodworks Yes! I have been stuck b/w Harvey's Gyro Options (G700 & G800) vs Oneida's Supercell Turbo or Dust Gorilla Pro. I've been finishing up my building, so I'll have to decide this summer. The issues that have prevented me from pulling the trigger on the Supercell Turbo so far are the noise and the limitations on future expansion.
Thanks! Spacing is between 4-5' because the cross members are 10' I wanted to avoid as much cutting as possible so one perpendicular length spans 3x base struts. I hope that helps!
It really depends on what your comparing it to and what the long tail of cost savings is. I've had it for coming up on two years and I get endless utility from it. Prior to this, I spent a lot of money trying other configurations including wooden structures, that I tore down and trashed over time. YMMV and one size does not fit all 🤷
Mabye, I was probably going to do smaller videos on specific design choices, such as lighting systems, or this power system choice. I've been working on some actual woodworking recently 😅
I guess thats all perspective and relative, $23 for a 10' piece of steel I can mount all kinds of things too doesn't seem to bad for me. A trip to Taco Bell cost me $40 😭
Be careful hanging too much weight from a garage ceiling. My parents have been doing that since the 80s and it looked ok when the roofing was old wood shingles but when they re-roofed with asphault the damage was plain to see. The roof trusses had sagged over the garage so while the house portion looks fine, the attached garage has dips and curves where it should be flat and straight. I told them to take out the storage they were hanging from the garage roof trusses and fix the dips before they put on the new roofing but they did not and now it looks pretty funky. You might not notice it right away but after you do, you can't un-see it. The other thing is if you design a garage with open roof trusses, design it to hold a load of crap in the trusses because somebody is going to look up and have bad ideas...
Its true, I consulted a structural engineer because we built a room on top of this garage as well. So far so good, this has been installed for about 1.25 years and no signs of movement. I covered this in the original edit, but cut it for time. I even had a segment in my attic talking about the joists etc. I just thought it digressed too much, but perhaps that was a mistake, people seem interested. 🤷
What you did isn't bad, maybe a couple hundred pounds and you aligned the strut to distribute the load. It's when you have 4x as much and don't distribute the load properly that messes things up. I'm planning a garage with living space over it too. An important part of that is using the space between the floor joists as a mechanical chase for my utilities. It's going to be covered up with a decoupled ceiling to make the garage look nice and reduce the noise that can make it upstairs but still allow access when I need to get to something hidden in there. Now I'm thinking of adding permanently installed dust extraction in there too. Another thing I want to do is hang movable walls on truss trolleys so I can make my two room garage/shop in to three or four rooms. That will let me create a paint booth or wood shop that is designed to control overspray and dust for quick cleaning and conversion back to garage space after a project is finished. I'm also going to have a lot of pallet rack area so my storage can go vertical and I have a hydraulic lift cart that can raise 300 lbs 72" so I can put heavy bins on high shelves even when I'm old and grey. It's all going to be an exercise in efficiently utilizing every square inch of floor space to the maximum so I can make do in a 1,000 ft² shop instead of a 3,000 ft² shop and live in about 800 ft² upstairs. Hopefully that will mean a solar and battery system big enough to occasionally run a mill, lathe, horizontal bandsaw and welder will be big enough to run my HVAC continuously (I live in a desert with good sunlight). It's also a lot cheaper to build 1,800 ft² of shop/home than 3,800 ft². I'm going to build another ~1,000 ft² steel building for additional shop space and storage. It will have HVAC but it will be set to cool when it gets over 95° and heat when it gets under 40° unless I'm using it. Insulation will be about R12 in the walls, maybe a bit higher in the roof but well sealed to prevent conditioned air leaking out or critters getting in. That might sound like a lot of space but when you want to fabricate, paint, woodwork and store a few project cars inside so they don't cook all summer, it's about as minimal as I can go without making some things really difficult or impossible. Luckily I have over an acre to build on and flat spots for both buildings and a driveway that connects them.
@beardoe6874 Wow you got some plans, it sounds like that will keep you busy for some time! "Nature Abhors a Vacuum", and we seem to find no problem consuming as much space as we can find, or in your case build. I used to do automotive work until I ran out of things to do so I switched hobbies, thats going to be a big chunk of your space. I imagine if I had land to build on, I might fall into a black hole of over-building and never completing, a labor of love for sure though. Good luck and hopefully you have or are getting a Tractor with Backhoe too! 👍👍
This seems to be a pretty common comment. Yes Uni-strut is A brand. You won't find Uni-strut at your local home center, you will find Super Strut or something else, so I just made it more generic to avoid confusion. Mission failed on my part 🤷 👍
@@pixelwoodworks I in no sense of the word think you failed! I was just injecting a comment more than anything.. I have seen and heard it called all of the above. You did an excellent job on your ceiling project!!!!! Thanks!
I talked to a structural engineer before installing, but yes, everyone should be cognisent of the load. I originally covered that in the video but cut it for time. I did cover it in the description of the video.
Arrrg, you got me at the end! I was waffling on hitting the subscribe button, and BAM!! There you are, callingme out. Great video. Looking forward to more.
lol, I’ve never seen this channel before.. dudes a little awkward.. I saw the end part “uh, you can subscribe if you like?…” [pause]… and I thought.. whoa.. super awkwaarrd… 😂 But no.. he’s got jokes! lol I’m not subscribing though 😑.. not my type of content.. not even sure why I watched it to be honest. Classic RU-vid rabbit hole trick.
@@pixelwoodworks Love the uniqueness.. keep doing you. Came here for the tricks, left with a treat instead. Can’t expect everyone to find the videos useful though right? 🤷🏽♂️
You can do the metal cutting you describe with an angle grinder. Which you can also use to deburr the cuts once you've made them. Less expensive and less space than a metal cutting saw.
Its true. I haven't personally had great luck with angle grinder cutting, which is why I bought the miter saw. Some people have suggested a bandsaw as well which seems like a great alternative. You must do metal work and be a whiz with the angle grinder, I'd probably loose a hand 🤷 👍👍
We use Unistrut all the time for electrical/low voltage jobs. The only hurdle for the average home owner would be the price. but this stuff is great for a wide range of usages. great ideas, and implementation!!!
It's true, it can get expensive. It can also be targeted for specific purposes and be fairly cost effective. In the scope of my project, the strut was no the major cost. Dust pipe was by far the biggest cost, followed by power, followed by lights.
I used the strut components to mount the waste water tank to the underside of my food truck, but I never thought to use it as intended, hanging stuff from the ceiling… thanks for reminding me of one of the common uses of strut! I’m going to take a good hard look at my little shop and see how I can use this!
Well great content that is definitely eye opening. A couple of minor issues with sound and camera perspective. It seems the viewpoint is sort of looking up your nose.
At the end of almost all bench making videos, I think to myself "well I could build that if I had all those tools". I thought I definitely COULDN'T make this just a few minutes in! Great job.
Haha.. It certainly seemed simpler when I decided to start.. I don't think I could would ever want to build this bench again. Thanks for the kind words! 👍
I used to spend way too much time trying to find a random tool or thing, then I decided to used these struts with trollies connected to multiple offset sheets of plywood to create additional wall storage space. These dozen sliding 24" wide sliding walls segments support thirty six packout mounting plates which I use to store the variety of packout organizers that keep all my odd tools, fasteners and other small materials in dedicated cases so they are super easy to find grab and go. Got an electrical project? Just grab the electrics pack and wire nut pack. Internet work needs to be done. I have cases for all that with all the coordinated tools. Hanging pictures? Yes, that's covered and more. and it all fits behind several spaced out tall metal storage cabinets along a 12' wall with 16" of depth. This keeps all the odd things tucked away and out of my larger woodworking and mechanical tool boxes so my primary shop area is super clean and organized.
What a great design and execution. I have seen commercial systems like this but but they are extremely expensive and not configurable. Great Idea, thank you for sharing 👍
Not very expensive at all if you take the time to lay it out properly and source the best trolly. All the rest can be picked up at the box store. Another note is the use of 22" long by 2" tall pieces of high-density polyethylene sheeting on the bottom back end of each sliding panel that runs against standoffs on the baseboard to keep everything level and easily gliding. @@pixelwoodworks
That was the inspiration. I think mine is more sturdy given it is fixed to the buildings joists instead of pallet rack and its more flexible at a third the price. @@159648sentile
For us old boomers, we're shocked at how expensive this 'inexpensive' system has become. My first exposure to it was as a rugrat when my Dad was in the USAF. They used the larger stuff and it was about 15 to 25 cents a foot in the mid '60s, depending on how long you started with. They built the largest storage racks I'd ever seen from the stuff to hold aircraft parts.
I hear you. It seems like thats the way of the world. I don't typically eat fast food and my memories of Taco bell are 59 cent tacos. I went through the drive through last year, and one taco was $4. 😱 I bet the stuff your talking about was American made too. Just out of curiosity, where did one go (and individual) in the 60's to get something like that or was it only available in more commercial applications?
@@pixelwoodworks YIKES! I haven't been to Taco Bell in a long time, but the tacos were still more than 59 cents. They don't taste as good now as they did when they were about 39 cents. The struts were available from what I think was the manufacturer in Colorado Springs, next to Peterson Field AFB. I don't remember the name of the company, but we could go there when it wasn't busy and a couple of the guys were allowed to sell to individuals. I think most of the stuff we got was either returned material or seconds, because we got some aluminum sheets once that were stamped with part numbers but deformed. They were a little thicker than 1/8 inch but about 2 ft by 6ft. We cut them down to size and used them in the kitchen as cookie sheets. They lasted forever.
Interesting. Thats the thing about anything built with quality in mind, it really does tend to last forever.. I've never heard of buying seconds of steel, but I guess you can get seconds or returns of anything. What would cause a strut like product to be a considered a "second" but still usable?
@@pixelwoodworks If it's for direct sale to a branch of the military, they still have to have the correct FSN's (federal stock number) printed or stamped on them. Or if the items don't match the description on the order, like they're an inch too short or something.
Yeah... I'll admit. I have ceiling Height envy. My present garage shop (20x24) has a ceiling height of 84" with a beam going across it with a 74" headroom. One more row of block when they built this house in 1969 would have made a world of difference. As it is, there's only enough room for the dust collection duct to go across half the space without some head-banging pipes at the beam. excellent idea though.🙂
I hear you. My last garage was like yours, a big beam below the ceiling deck with a post, but on the other hand it was a bit wider and deeper. Is your shop laid out in a way you need to cross that beam? I guess we make the best of what we have, play to its strengths etc. :) Thanks for the kind words Wayne!
