If you still have the muffler, have you tried replacing the pipe inside with a erforated straight pipe and added fiber baffle? This will yield 2 45° bends internal for a total of 90° within. Couple that with most people's single 90° exiting the unit, and that stays below the 270° max. I'm thinking of trying this myself, and if it works, would yield the best results and silencing for most.
@cfon159 hello. Thanks forcyour thoughts. I ended up replacing this with the original Chinese heater silencer which cured the problem. I like your idea though and might modify it as you suggest as it currently sitting in a spares box gathering dust.
Appreciate the video. I’ve been using both genuine and Chinese diesel heaters for ten years now. Both work perfectly, but one a a whole lot cheaper than the other. My OEM gasket set cost the same as a new Chinese heater here in NZ. As a retired engineer, I’ve just ordered the muffler you have replaced, that caused your issues. Can I ask, how long was your exhaust and about how many degree bends you had in it. From my research, the ripple tubing that they supply for exhaust tubing does have a minor effect on muffling noise, but it also restricts the flow of gases to a minor extent. Add a few 90 degree bends, and you have a recipe to increase back pressure? Thank you for your thoughts on this for me and others researching this subject.
Hello. I'm glad my video proved interesting. My set up is a eberspacher airtronic d2 fitted in my campervan, the exhaust is about 80cm long with one 90 degree bend directly below the exhaust port, allowing it to angle itself down the chassis, it is then sloped gentle downwards to prevent any water trapment. The exhaust is an original Ebespacher exhaust which is thicker and has smoother ripples than the Chinese alternative. As mention I removed the upgraded exhaust and replaced it with the original chinese exhaust as eberspacher dont often come with a muffler, and it appears to work fine now. I have yet to service it though so cannot comment on possible coke buildup inside the unit, but I can confirm it runs very efficiently having checked with a co2 meter. Hope that helps.
@seepetedo Hello. I bought the feed kit off ebay, item number 221534925902, EBERSPACHER/WEBASTO/PLANAR DIESEL HEATER FORD TRANSIT MERC VITO FUEL PICK-UP KIT Glad the video has been of interest and help.
@69racer69 Hello. It's not an easy job, that's for sure. No doubt it would be easier if the vehicle was on a lift. Unfortunately their was no way it would fit in between the chassis, so it has to hang down below, which meant finding fixing points is limited. But it's done now, so the frustration and cursing was worth it.
@69racer69 Capacity: 40 litres Length: 840 mm Width: 370 mm Depth: 150 mm It came with plastic water connectors which were rubbish as we could not get it to seal properly, we have since changed them for brass.
How many hours did you run the heater with this muffler? I installed it as well (before I saw your video) and even though I have used the heater only four a short period of time (less than 50 hours) over the last year or so, it stopped working. I took it apart and it was full of soot. Literally. the exhaust opening on the bottom had like an 8mm opening left in it, the rest was filled with soot. I opened it up and cleaned it and it works again. When I was testing it, I noticed some black smoke from the exhaust. I went into the hidden menu to change the air/fuel ratio (more air, less fuel) and now it is ok. I hope it will not soot up as quickly as before. So I was wondering if this might have something to do with the extra muffler (and a piece of extra exhaust pipe). Maybe it causes some extra resistance that might cause the heater to suck in less air (what goes in must come out after all). I am not sure, I haven't tested it without the muffler, it's just a theory. I am curious about your experience with it. BTW, I'm in the Netherlands BTW, so It's not an elevation issue :)
@alexbik hello. Thanks for visiting my channel. I was initially impressed with the silencer, following this test, although it was only a test so was not run for very long. I did however fit the silencer to my van, where I have a erbespatcher d2 fitted and within 30 minutes, once the van got to the required temperature and clicked into minimum setting, it would flame out, ie turn the heater off, and keep trying to restart it. As soon as I removed the silencer and reinstalled the original one (same as cheap Chinese type) my problem went away and has never returned. So I can definitely say from experience they do restrict emissions venting, hence your build up.
@alexbik I also have a 5kw heater installed in my house, running with the cheap silencer, I ran it all through the winter, on kerosene. Just yesterday I stripped it down to service it for this coming winter and it was completely clean inside, no soot build up at all. So I can recommend kerosene and the cheap silencer if you wish to avoid carbon/soot build up. I have uploaded some videos showing my installs. Hope this helps answer your questions
@@royclark8385 Thanks for the quick confirmation! I hope my settings will help. I dropped the minimum pump freq from 1.4 to 0.9, the max from 5.4 to 3 and I increased the min fan speed from 1500 to 1750 and max from 4500 to 5000. Time will tell if that's enough. I realize it will impact performance, but I don't need the full 5kW anyway.
@alexbik I have played around with my settings reducing such as you have, but i discovered it was not reaching maximum temperature so ended up reverting close to the original settings. If you can buy/use kerosene I would definitely recommend that as it is said to burn at a higher temperature than diesel.
@@royclark8385 The thing is, I have a propane heater in my RV as well (a Truma combined water/air heater) that I run off an LPG tank. In installed the diesel heater because you can not buy LPG everywhere, especially not in northern Sweden and Finland. So I really like to run it on diesel, since I have a 200L fuel tank and I can buy diesel fuel anywhere. I'll see how it goes with the new settings.I could also try to restrict the heated airflow a bit to increase the temperature.
We use a handheld metal flower mister filled with hot water for a face wash - and for a full shower a 2.0 litre Garden spray with adjustable spray. Saves hassle and loads of water. Van doors we use magnets to hold a shower curtain. All simple ,effective , fast and cheap without faff.
Hello. Thanks for viewing, their are many ways I guess, I have installed a full hot/cold shower feed at the back of the van to use similar to yours only Radka was not comfortable showering outside in public, so we opted for this system so she can shower with a little more privacy and in any weather.
You have a low height van so you can not be very choosy about the shower. The problem with that system is that you have to be very very careful when taking the shower, otherwise you will have water all over. That is more of a mini bathtub than a shower. Another problem with set up like this is that you have to wait for it to dry before storing it. Anyway, better than nothing. Enjoy.
@Photostoryhr hello thanks for your thoughts. We have a pop top fitted so can stand up for drying, but not whilst washing for obvious reasons. We have been using this system for several holidays now and as of yet not experienced any spillage issues, but admittedly it does come with restrictions and you do need to be careful when using it.
I am trying to install 2 12v led strip lights and trying to power them off the rear cargo lights but when I wire both them up only one strip lights is going on and off with key fob or door open close the other stop light remains on 24/7 ?
@MarkMc-66 Hi. Not sure why that is but have you tried wiring the two led strips into each other, so the working correctly led is also powering the other led. By passing the factory wiring loom of the 2nd cargo light.
had the same trouble fitting one of these on mine , coke build up blocked the exhaust port , cleaned and serviced the heater , put original silencer back on X 2 this time , no trouble after that .
Hello. Whilst some say they are great, mine definitely caused a flame out, been a year now since I replaced it with the original, and since had no flaming out issues.
I have just bought some from the same place. Fortunately for me all the pieces were in the box. The instructions that came with it, which are very basic, show removing the bolt from that bracket and fitting it under or over the bracket then refitting the bolt. This means the runner bracket fits without modification. I have a SWB so perhaps it’s different but unlikely. I assume the front of the vehicles are the same.
Hello. Glad to hear your runn8ng boards fit without modification. I am pleased with mine, and they recieve nice comments. I have noticed that they do tend to slant towards the body which means they hold water rather than running off.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I bought 2 packs of 12 lengths I believe, bought from B&Q. 1 pack was not quite enough. Fixing the batton down with sikaflex rather than screwing into the floor has worked fine too.
Hello. Thanks for viewing our video. I bought it off ebay, from a company called vandalized, ebay item number 282082861910. Was very pleased with it and ended up with a very pleasing result.
Hello. If you mean the kit, I bought if off ebay, item number 221534925902, EBERSPACHER/WEBASTO/PLANAR DIESEL HEATER FORD TRANSIT MERC VITO FUEL PICK-UP KIT
Hello. Thanks for viewing and suggesting a possible cause. The exhaust is directed out the opposite end of the box to the air intake, I have subsequently moved the tank 5 meters away from the unit, but still getting smell upon start up, not so on shut down if I run it on high for 10mins before shutting down. I believe its a manufacturing fault in that the gasket for the burn chamber is not sealing correctly, so come the summer I will strip it down and reseal the chamber using new gaskets and heat mate Silicon to create a better seal.
Hiya love your tour of the van I’m looking for the blind system you have what is the name of the blind and can you cut them to size great video and really nice ideas
Hello. Thanks for your kind comments. The blinds are ikea hoppval blinds. If your vehicle is a transit custom the only one we had to cut was the smaller rear barn door window, the rest all fitted without needing to be cut.
You mentioned about having word camper on van. Is for for dvla registration Ive been told you can't get registered as Campervan with pop top. Have you managed it. I have to pay over £800 for insurance. But if Campervan registered. Brings it down considerably
Hello. Yes it was added to help register as a campervan, I did hear about the poptop not helping my cause although I know of a few new vehicles which are exactly the same as mine but are registered as campervans, ie ford nugget, vw california. I am awaiting the letter from the dvla confirming its new identity, which I suspect will be "van with windows". If this is the case I will seek clarification as from what I can ascertain from mine and the nugget is mine does not have an awning rail fixed onto the side such as the fiamma awning rail.
Hello again. I recieved my response from the dvla, its been reclassified as "van with windows" and the seating capacity has been changed to 5, which is important for insurance purposes. I am considering appealing as the transporter from vw I understand is registered as a campervan, and I suspect the Ford nugget is too qhen direct from the manufacturer.
Lovely conversion. I've got a Renault trafic 2019 lwb premier edition. Looks like yours is lwb. Ive looked many places for bamboo for my tops. But could only find for full boards. Where did you get yours from
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting. Yes our is the LWB, we had a mazda bongo before and felt the standard custom was too similar size wise to the bongo. That extra 40cm makes a big difference. We bought our units Inc worktops from Evo designs, you could try calling them to see if they will supply just the tops. I bought uncut tops as I wanted to install a separate sink and 2 burner hob than traditional builds, (as seen in the video) and therefore cut out the recess as required.
Very good explanation of your setup. I've just bought the same cbe kit and im now going to do the battery charger the same as you. Can i ask which one of the 3 settings you have the charger on for your batteries as im going for agm ones ?
Hello Thanks for watching and commenting on my video. I too have agm batteries, off the top of my head I cannot remember the position although I did do as the guide instructed, and I don't want to miss inform you. I can say that the system is really nice, although some features we did not need, such as the electric step. The mains fed battery charger works very well, I kept my batteries topped up via this during the past colder months. If you do not have the operational manual, let me know and I will dig mine out and confirm the settings.
@royclark8385 thanks for the reply. I have the manuals that came with it thanks but like you've done i want to change the way its set up like you have, I'm also incorporating separate feed off from fusebox to feed a gang of lights and usb and I already have a durite split charge fitted so no need for fusebox to connect to my ignition or alternator, thinking about it now I should have just bought charger and rcd box and just a normal fuse box !!!!
@rickh6825 it's funny how once completed we see alternative way we could have done things. I bought a number of things I thought I would use but either changed my mind or bought a better alternative. Good luck with the build though.
Hello. I have recently uploaded a video explaining why I reverted back to the original due to problems this upgraded one caused, in this instance it was best to stick with the original.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I have subsequently uploaded another video as I had to remove the upgraded exhaust as it caused problems with my heater.
Come on.... a lid with a hole in the middle??? How stupid am I, I neve thought of it and always struggled on those part of the van build... thanks mate!😀
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting on my video. Glad it was of some use, as a complete novice RU-vid has proved invaluable as my source of information.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting. I used stainless steel screws, I think from memory they were 25mm. I only screwed into the Sikaflex down wooden batten, as I did not want to create unnecessary holes in the actual van floor. My logic was the weight of the bed(80kg) which is bolted through the van floor, the units plus the Sikaflex batten would hold the plyboard floor in place.
Hello. Thanks for your kind comments. The hob was a Gasland chef GH30BF 30cm built in 2 burner gas hob , black tempered glass gas cooktop, NG/LPG convertible, bought off Amazon and the oven is a Elgento compact mini oven, stainless steel 800w 9 litre was bought off the web, they are often sold out, I emailed suppliers to notify me when they were back in stock.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting. It's so simple to install and changing the gas canister is quick and cheap in comparison to calor gas, their is also the added advantage that they are more easily available in stores.
Hello Thanks for viewing and commenting on my video. Wow seems you too have experienced problems with this upgraded exhaust silencer. I no longer use it but many say they have not experienced any problems.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting on my video. Yes I agree none of the exhaust are suitable for indoor use as they all leak gases either through poor workmanship or via the fact they have a drain hole as you mention.
@@royclark8385 A side note with this exhaust also as iv just fitted one , it did effect the mixture because of the extra back pressure , had to reduce fuel ratio slightly to keep it burning clean.
Hi, looking to do this myself. Do the lights have a permanent live or is it only ignition live? Wanting these to work as a camper so turn them on without the ignition on or when van is locked etc
Hi. I don't think they are, as if you try to turn them on from inside the vehicle without opening the doors, say after 10 minutes of unlocking the doors they will not turn on. I converted my van into a camper and had to run a separate light fed from my leisure battery to give me lights in the van.
I’m doing the same however finding it hard to find a 75mm open close vent for the inside wall as the official ones all have a 75mm diameter but then step up to a 90mm meaning I will need to drill around a 90mm hole. I wanted to keep the hole smaller around 75mm the only ones available with a straight 75mm are the cheap Amazon / EBay ones which melt. Did you drill a 90mm hole for that white Webasto one??
Hello. I can appreciate your dilemma, I drilled initially a 80mm hole into my wall, which I am glad I did as a 75mm would have made pulling the 75mm pipe through very difficult. I did initially buy the cheap one from ebay, which melted.. so bought a 75mm one online, but as you say it requires a 90mm hole to fit flush against the wall. I did not want to drill a bigger hole so, whilst mine fits the heating pipe snug it does protrude off the wall by about 1cm, which when looking directly on is not noticeable but is when looking from above.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and commenting on my video. I did hear somewhere that the entire system should not have more than 270 degrees of bends in total, you generally have at least 90 degrees from exiting the burn chamber. I agree, as many have said, as a sound suppressor it works very well, but its not perfect as with my erberspatcher it caused a male function.
Hi thanks for viewing and commenting on my video. Which socket are you referring two. The two on the outside? One is foe delivery of 12v from the solar panel and the other is for 230v into the van. Both I had to feed the cable my self. If you mean the one in the rear door pillar, that loom was already installed from factory. If I recall it was either a yellow/orange plug coming from the light loom.
Thanks for the video. I have a shop and qant ro run my heater inside. I know I need to run the exhaust outside, but what about thw intake? I appreciate the help. Be blessed ❤
Hello. Thanks for your comment. You can run the air intake from inside the building, I do in my garage set up, but two things you want to consider, 1 that if you get a blow back inside the burn chamber (its rare but can happen) the combustion (smoke) will often exit via the air intake, so you will have a room smelling of diesel and full of smoke, 2nd the process of combustion works more efficiently with higher humidity (damp air), whereas the air indoors does not contain the same humidity and is often dryer. If possible I would recommend having the air intake outside.
Hi Roy I know this is not on topic for this video but I was wondering about the cargo lights you fitted a switch to does this make them be able to switched on/off whenever you need them Thanks Richie
Hello. Yes that's exactly what I can now do, being on for 10 minutes every time I open the door was really effecting my battery, as during the build the van was not being started much. Now I can control the light. However the switch is only operative during that 10 minutes the van ecu delivers power to the switch, it will not turn the light on as and when I require light outside that first 10 minutes.
Hello. Thanks for viewing and kind comment on our build. I bought it for eBay.. Striped Vinyl Flooring Roll Bamboo Style Wood Planks Foam Sheet Lino Bathroom Item number 123213907365 We are really pleased with it as we installed a bamboo worktop and table. It appears to wear well too, although as it is foam backed, anything pressed into it (like a screw) will leave a mark.
