“Gaming Chairs” are DEAD! - Razer Fujin Pro 

Seems like a six month update on all these chair unboxing videos is needed. First impressions are great, but not nearly as important as how the chair is rated after being in use.

I like the chair, but that 1-year warranty… they can't have that much confidence in their product, which makes me feel like I shouldn't either. For this price point, I'd want a minimum of 10 years.

The Herman Miller Aeron is a much better deal. the 12-year warranty alone makes it better. Compare that to ONLY 1 for the mesh on the razer

$1000 for a 1 year warranty and not even pre-assembled. Is this a joke?

02:01 Wow, that's a terrible warranty given the Herman Miller and Steelcase competition at this price point.

To this day I don't know who likes these racing chairs

For those on a budget but need a good chair, look for used egronomic office chairs from companies like Herman Miller, Obusform, ergocentric, tritek etc. Those chairs are made to last years and years of people sitting on them for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week and will often be full ergonomic chairs to get it just the way you need it to fit you. They are often quite ugly but they make up for that in the number of adjustments and quality of materials. They are also sold for very cheap as well because they are used.

there only being a 1 year warratny on the fabric is wild to me. the thing most likely to fail and see the most abuse is the thing with the least coverage. OMG Just got to the price. how is their warranty so bad for the price they are charging.

"You don't want to cheap out on the chair." Me, sitting on my $36 folding lifetime chair from Costco.

I bought a _used_ Herman Miller Mirra 15 years ago. It still looks remarkably new. I expect it to last another 15. Never skimp on office chairs.

I bought a Herman Miller Aeron 2nd hand for $450, and thats in EU where used ones are much more expensive than in america. spent a few hours disassembling and deep cleaning the chair. its now like new, extremely high quality, and cheaper than most gaming chairs.

The price seems way out of touch for a Razer product and honestly a shockingly short Warranty. 1 year on the mesh? That's the bit that will break first.

Love how all these new ergo gaming chairs are in the luxury tier price range.

at this pricepoint id rather get myself a HM Aeron

I never really got the whole 'gamer chair' thing, i always buy my chairs from office furniture stores that are comfortable, affordable and lasts forever. My current chair ive had for over 4 years and it still looks and feels brand new. How many people can say that about their 'gamer chairs' i wonder?

It would be nice if, when you're doing videos on chairs, you had all the different body types that you have working for you test sit the chair. From short to long and thin to fat. It would also be nice if you wrote their length on screen when they tried the chair.

I paid half that for my Herman Miller Mirra chair that I'm still using 14 years later - and I'm still very happy with it. I use it 8+ hours a day Mon-Fri for work, plus evenings and weekends for gaming, coding, etc. There's no excuse for scratching the chair whilst assembling it - he should have done it on the rug, not the hard floor!

Totally agree that it's nice to finally have some "gaming chairs" that aren't uncomfortable race car seats. I don't need bolsters to hold me in place side to side. That's super expensive though, especially when you consider only a 1 year warranty on the part most likely to wear out quickly... I'd never trust that for that much money with only 1 year warranty.

I like the headrest that helps push the neck forward and get you into that true gamer posture.

I'd love to see you guys get a lineup of sub-300 chairs and see if any are worth actually buying on a budget. I'd suggest trying out the Costco DPS chair, it's pretty decent.

Hope the 4D armrests have a bit more stiffness to them. My Enki ones rattle terribly and the buttons on the inside of the armrests are in the worst position as I constantly hit my arms on them and move them

I especially love how there's a carpet right there but you decided to build it on the hard surface, scratching-potential floor instead.

i recently started using aftermarket wheels for my computer chairs, game changing.

It's worth mentioning that I did buy the Razer Fujin Pro. Within 5 days after I had received it and assembled it, the neck in the headrest broke and was no longer tighten able and was loosely falling in place, rendering it useless. Upon reaching out to Razer support, I requested a replacement headrest which I was then instructed to jump through hoops, including but not limited too, asking me how much I weighed (the headrest broke, I'm not sure how this is relevant?) taking a video of my problem, what I was doing when it occurred and sending it in. After deliberation with the support specialist and my refusal to do so, as I had just paid 1000$ for a chair that lasted 5 days (was within return warranty still) and the part that broke was a pre-assembled piece that had no involvement on my part what so ever...they caved and offered to send a replacement headrest. I gave the chair another 3 days and realized, I'm just not comfortable in this thing, ever. (To which ultimately lead to me returning it) - I'm 5'9, 165lbs. Average build. The fabric is tough a little thick and has a 'sticky' type texture, so if you're wearing shorts or like to fold a leg once in a while...it's a little painful actually. - The lumbar support is horrendous, tacky and actually undoes itself if you have the chair reclined, forcing your weight back on it, forcing you to tighten it up over and over again. - The weirdest decision on the part of the decision, of them all in my opinion, is that they attached the arms to the back of the chair, which means...when you recline the chair, the arms recline with it, this is something none of the RU-vid reviews I watched, address. This causes the arm rests to be at an upward ramped angle when gaming and is extremely uncomfortable. I've never seen a chair prior to this one, designed this way, a completely brainless decision on the design teams part. Who wants to rest their arms on the nose of the arm rest, my arms don't bend that way guys! All in all, I personally recommend everyone to stay away from this product until 1. They make changes to these flaws. or 2. They appropriately price this product for what it's worth and it's not 1000$. P.S. I was previously using a Secret Labs Racing chair and it's more comfortable in every way, even including with my flattened cushion, which is why I was upgrading out in the first place. If anyone has other comfortable chair options, please let me know, as I'm still looking.

I've been looking at getting one of these so one thing to note is although the non Pro is cheaper and looks like it just has no headrest it is actually made of Nylon not metal so basically a different chair

I've had a Razer Iskur in gray cloth. I think I paid around $375 on it and it's been absolutely fabulous. It's not gaudy at all, comfortable, and it's held up well over the past 3 years or so. The only thing I did was replace the castors with the larger/softer rollerblade style wheels because I'm on low pile carpet. Love it.

The groan Colton let out when he stood up @4:07 was so relatable.

When you lean back, hand rest lean also and change angle and height to desk. I have the same problem with my Ergohuman chair. It is a big design problem.

It's an office chair with a gaming Logo

I never used the headrest while I am working, typing, doing anything with computers. That is probably good for resting, or sleeping, but when you rest, take a break the first healthy thing is stand up, walk away from any chair… so the head rest -less option is perfect for everyone who usually work sitting on that chair.

A thing about the weight limits. Those limits might have to do with the seals on the air piston for the height adjustment. Those can crack and break when to much weight is applied (something I know from personal experience) leaving the piston unable to hold air and always sliding to the lowest height setting as soon as you add any weight to it.

Thank Goodness ShortCircuit. Ive been waiting for a video review of this product since I saw it announced. I'm just glad the first one I've found are reputable and thorough 😂

Looks like a decent $300 chair. I would probably wait for it to go on sale, and buy it for $250.

Respawn gaming chairs had something similar. My biggest complaint was the foam at the front of the seat comes out sometimes and my elbows chewed through the armrests after a few ywars

crazy its still a 1k chair, bit much for alot of people

This costs nearly double my HM Sayl, has less adjustment and half the length of warranty (at best). Oh, and it was delivered pre-assembled. The only thing this has over mine is a headrest. I'll stick with Herman Hiller, thanks!

My Steelcase Gesture has a 12 year warranty on everything, and they ship you a replacement in a week or two if you have to use it. That 12 years is for 24/7 commercial use too, so as a consumer, I doubt I'll be wearing it out. It's super comfortable and looks great too. It costs a good deal more but when the mesh on that Razor dies in a year and a half the extra cost on the Gesture will seem just fine.

Needs to be half the price and maybe it could compete with HM or Steelcase

Personally, I look for the recline feature and would have appreciated the mention of this chair having which type of recline mechanism.

I use a Pea Green and Gold striped chair from the 1970s. Far more sturdy and resilient than any office chair I have ever bought. I've had it for a decade now and it's still holding up. Does it roll? no, but it's light enough to adjust position and made of wood.

The thing all these chairs get wrong is where the hydraulic column mounts to the seat. They place it towards the rear, putting maximum pressure on your tailbone and spinal column. The column should be centered on the seat to distribute the load and float the spine when reclining.

This looks so much like a shihoo chair. But with a higher price tag. Sometimes just leave chair making to the chair makers. Companies are seeing setup videos having less and less racing chairs and more and more office chairs, while the office chair makers are now spaceship-fying their chairs. See the embody/gesture

love the fact i got a secret labs advert mid video

So the industry came full circle back to an office chair

when he leans back while gaming it made me think of cartman playing WoW

a 5-year warranty for a chair in that price range? C'mon son.

i have the razer enki, ive had it for about 2 years now and honestly its still going great. the backrest has some free play i need to figure out how to sort but its still like i got it day 1. the Fujin looks like it has a lot of the same parts as the Enki, apart from the actual chair itself. mad pricing, otherwise i'd consider it

Tha fact that even for a desk chair there is a "PRO" version makes me sick. The Razer "something something" PRO, the iPhone Pro Max Pro, the BMW M3 Competition PRO, Traktor PRO. And we all allowed this..

Is this a rebranded version of something cheaper or is it all in-hose?

No link in the description?

That 1 year warranty on the fabric and mesh just screams, "our mesh will stretch out and make you sit on the seat frame", as I had the same thing happen to me within 2 years of owning a WorkPro 1000 ergo chair. The MSRP on that one is as much as $300 and at the time I got mine for $100 or something like that but it had a 5 year warranty for it all I think. I had to get it replaced due to the seat and I had an bolt shear off for an arm rest. So I had to get that warrantied as well and by god that was horrible. They sent me the wrong part multiple times and often some of the ones I needed had flaws in the finish of the arm cushion. I had so many issues that by the time the second chair bottom mesh stretched out yet again, they just gave me a gift card back in what I spent on the chair so they didn't have to spend more inventory on me! The fact that this $1049 "premium chair" doesn't give you a 10 year warranty just screams they are not confident in the chair lasting more than 5 years. 5 years is standard for many $300 and up chairs. Doesn't matter if it has "alloy metal" in the marketing, the material can still snap, especial with the other parts STILL being nylon on this overpriced chair. Mind you Nylon isn't a bad material for an office chair, it's a GOOD material as long as it's been DESIGNED to take the wear and tear of daily use. The "alloy metal" can break or bend too.

1000$ chair? And you have to assemble it ? wtf my Herman Miller comes with a 10x warranty and comes built …

If you guys want to really look at Office chairs it would be cool if you could look at chairs less gaming focused, like herman miller, steelcase, and haworth. The "racing/gaming" chairs are usually overpriced and just really bad at ergonomics, even the best of the gaming ones the secret lab titan isn't as good as a cheaper office chair. Really glad you are looking at more ergo focused chair!

ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS Staples has the same style chair for like $120

If you haven't tried the Aeron from Herman Miller I highly recommend it. Pricey but you'll never want another chair after.

In that price point I would rather get a Steel case. It comes assembled. I have the Leap and it's incredible. Got it used for $250 and the cushion hasn't changed in over 2 years. I would totally buy a new one and not be offended by the price.

The fact that that a $600 chair couldn't make it through a general unboxing and initial build tells me this is a hard pass. Get a used Herman Miller or Steeseries chair.

It would be really worth it to do lang duration testing of these chairs. Razer products have a tendency to break after some time. I like their mice, but you do notice that they don't have a big lifetime. And like other people mentioned, that 1 year warranty of the fabrics makes me really suspicious. I'm also kind of wondering if the reason Herman Miller made your butt in the mesh hit the actual structure beneath is actually because of lifetime reasons for the mesh. I can imagine if that mesh has to fully support your weight, and perhaps some bounces on it, all the time, it can break more easily.

At that price go for a Herman Miller Aeron or Embody - they come with 12 years warranty

4D adjustable arm rests? Do they time travel or am I missing something?

I bought a Diablo V-Commander chair which looked a lot like this and was less than $300. So good in the summer, nice and breezy. After 3 years of heavy use it's still immaculate.

1199.99€ for that? Yeah I don't think those racing chairs are dead. Those breathable and little bit of ergonomic chairs have INSANE pricings.

Got some Razer haptic headpones, they fell off my head and broke. It was such an easy/clean break I didn't even bother with returning or replacing them. Just kinda knew at that point I would need to invest in other areas.

we need one more step on the reviews.. the service part , in you cut the mesh or you broke something , how easy will it be to find the parts for replace

LOL a grand plus for a mesh ergo chair my respawn just as good as that other than 4d arms costs under 500 and if i ever wanted to replace the mesh i can because it is all screws holding the various parts together i might even mod it for a leather seat vs mesh

Great video as always Colton and team!

It would be nice if you guys had the link to the stuff you are unboxing so that us views will understand what the item's looked like and how much it costed as well as if we wanted to buy the item's.

Best chair upgrades: Mem Foam arm rest covers & Rollerblade Wheels

Wow a customizable gpu cover with two whole choices !!

The weight rating for the fujin might be lower at 300 pounds because of the gas spring - the weight of the chair itself added with your body weight might be more prone to sliding down.

Those chompford edges will chomp you everytime lol

Colton, the reason you don't have a buddy is because you've been fired so many times. Even Dereck had Sarah to help with setting up the desk - and somehow I think he's been fired less than you!

I wonder how long the mesh on the bottom will last before it sags significantly

You’d probably like the Neue Chair from Secret Labs.

1k USD chair and all you get is a year of warranty? nah

Ive looked at chairs for a long time wanting to get a new one bc I feel the need to “upgrade” from my 9 year old chair from staples but any chair I bought in the last few years I hated and ended up returning. Im not sure how this chair has lasted this long but till I find a chair at a decent price that sits just as good im sticking with my ol pleather staples chair

Herman Miller x Logitech Embody chair is still king. Love mine and don't regret my decision. Only thing it's missing is the 4D armrests, but this chair is freaking comfortable and has a 12 year warranty

Funny thing is that i have all those features in the ego chair i bought over 10 years ago and all my controls with only one joystick ( only difference from the. To now is that its not as dark as back when i got it )

1:03 missed opportunity for some fun alliteration. "posture perfect pwning"

Is there anyone in chat who knows how much one of these costs Razer to produce? Because 1k for a friggin chair is insaneballs.

I bought a Hbada E3 for 1/3 of the price (metal version) which seems to have almost the same quality...

The Hinomi H1 Pro is less than half the price and has so many more points for tuning the ergonomics, it even folds to store under your desk for smaller spaces. Could you please review that chair?

Asus also released the Destrier. Nice that we are moving away from those racing bucket seats

$1000+ for a chair is crazy. Especially with only a 1 year warranty.

i bought a chair 2yrs ago for 100 on amazon and the only thing bad is the cushion is now worn out but it still looks perfect no tears or scuffs or anything. I got a plaid all black leather chair tagged for big people. I cut the steel plates to move the arm rests closer. since it was uncomfortable dip the dip worn out i folded sum cardboard at the front and it kinds works now im just in a perfect shaped for my butt LOL. i dont think $1000 is worth it for me rn. id rather upgrade my 3070 or buy a new desk for that price like wtf... its super nice i have many rzer things but that price is wild

This looks so cool, but even $200 is more than I can afford for a single desk chair. Can you review more budget options?

4D armrests! So you can adjust them in X, Y, Z and in time?

In regards to not cheaping out on your chair, I was told more than 10 years ago that your chair should cost as much as your computer, and I've found that to be good advice. Of course that was before graphics card prices went stratospheric.

I bought a Realm of Thrones Ergo gaming chair about 3 years ago, best thing I ever did!

I cannot believe how expensive chairs are.. material cost has to be less than 50$..

I guess going from slapping logos on the same basic racing chair and charging 10x for that to slapping logos on the same basic mesh chair and charging 10x is a slight improvement?

how tf are the arm rests 4d adjustable?? they move through time?????

The chair looks almost identical to the chair i bought for $200. Some minor differences, and the un-needed metal parts, but overall looks very close. Its a very comfortable chair, the open mesh is the best material for a chair. That said, i cant see why anyone would spend more than $400 for a chair like that

There is literally a carpet right next to him.

Oh I miss those days where the sofa does all the job with a my friends playing games like there's no tomorrow.... 😊 🤣

I bet the 50 pound difference is in the razer chair itself. Just the weight of the materials :D Also they say it has a "4D" arm support, but i fail to see how theyre adjustable in width. Even my somewhat "cheap" (relative to the ones in the video) ergo chair has width adjust on the arm rests. I mean like the whole arm rest assembly can be adjusted in width, not just the top part.

I could be wrong but I feel a refurb aeron would be more comfortable and last longer

*death coming for gaming chair Gaming Chair: was I a good chair Death: no

As for 'don't cheap out on a chair,' from my experience $200+ on sale is where the decent chairs start. Mine was $250 and I'm starting to feel it wear down after 4 years which is incredible. I have to imagine the $500+ range would've been much more comfortable, but you can get some very good chairs at $250-$400. I'll admit though the plastic bits are a tad wobbly and squeak, but that's one of the trade-offs of a comfortable chair at $250 vs quality parts. I'm saving up for its replacement soon, I just wish these types of chairs were in-store so I could test them out in person.

I agree with the comments but I also love the first impressions of the chair, I only buy chairs with a mesh bottom as I find it more sanitary and comfortable, I just wish this chair was 800 max and I wonder what the difference is from the non pro considering there is a price difference of around 400 dollars