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“Put Bonds In…Put ‘Em All In!” Rich Eisen on Electing Suspected PED Users to Baseball Hall of Fame 

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Rich Eisen weighs in on the controversial Baseball Hall of Fame balloting this year in which voters were torn over sending suspected/confirmed PED users to Cooperstown such as Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and others.
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@MarkWladika
@MarkWladika 2 года назад
Bonds is the scapegoat for a whole generation of players.
@JeffW2000
@JeffW2000 2 года назад
Tell that to Pete Rose.
@toddsalkowski448
@toddsalkowski448 2 года назад
Bonds was a vile, nasty, despicable person! He treated people around him like garbage. Don't think for a minute that's not playing into the writer's decisions.
@MarkWladika
@MarkWladika 2 года назад
@@toddsalkowski448 So you know Barry personally?
@MarkWladika
@MarkWladika 2 года назад
@@JeffW2000 Good point, except gambling was banned while roids were legal according to MLB.
@bobsbuurgers3714
@bobsbuurgers3714 2 года назад
Nothing racist to see here folks... Keep it moving... 🖤👀🤡
@insurgencybuffoonery8065
@insurgencybuffoonery8065 2 года назад
Bud Selig turned a blind eye to roids and he’s in the hall lmao
@bengaltiger96
@bengaltiger96 3 месяца назад
Yep. You could make the case that he was the biggest beneficiary of PEDs and the Steroid Era.
@m.iramiles9310
@m.iramiles9310 2 года назад
Agreed. It's a Hall of Fame, not a Hall of Heroes. Not even taking into account that we have no idea what players might've ingested in earlier eras.
@JimmyBlues99
@JimmyBlues99 2 года назад
It's meaningless these days...It's become the Hall of Shame
@byronsmith3152
@byronsmith3152 2 года назад
But we do know. People admitted to using roids back in the 60's and greenies were served in candy dishes before games during those same times.
@jaimep3432
@jaimep3432 2 года назад
There already in the hall of shame.
@deankay8894
@deankay8894 2 года назад
its not a hall of infamy though
@richwilliamson4131
@richwilliamson4131 Год назад
With what proof?
@Myshtcity
@Myshtcity 2 года назад
That ERA saved Baseball! And they still have less Strike Outs then the players today...
@dcdj35
@dcdj35 2 года назад
Writers has no problem giving Bonds and Clemens all those MVPs and Cy Young's. MLB had no problem lining their pockets while these guys revived a DEAD sport. To not have them in is atrocious, to not have them in while Ortiz gets in 1st Ballot is a slap in the face.
@mehdinaghavi685
@mehdinaghavi685 2 года назад
Ortiz: the drug store.
@tonsouth
@tonsouth 2 года назад
Same with jeff bagwell… taking roids….and yet in hall of fame
@Py-dr2fv
@Py-dr2fv 2 года назад
the stupid thing is that whole era, everyone used it. these guys just benefited more than the others who used it and sucked. I mean everyone was jacked back then
@ericbrown1101
@ericbrown1101 2 года назад
It simply proves that the HOF has been reduced to a popularity contest. The case of Schilling has further proven that. It's sad.
@eugenedenbrook322
@eugenedenbrook322 2 года назад
Now this- this is the best point ever made about this. Not to mention, Big Mac was at first taking things, which were not against the rules.
@justinryan999
@justinryan999 2 года назад
Steroids saved baseball. Chasing the record brought viewership back after the strike. You can’t tell the story of baseball without it.
@PianoUniverse
@PianoUniverse 2 года назад
Destroyed sacred numbers. Hurt baseball.
@justinryan999
@justinryan999 2 года назад
@@PianoUniverse numbers aren’t sacred. Records get broken all the time. They are talking points. The fact is the broad public couldn’t care less about baseball after the strike. The only thing killing baseball at this point is baseballs handling of its product.
@stevechristy3244
@stevechristy3244 2 года назад
Sosa and McGwire basically saved baseball, not steroids. Even though steroids helped.
@PopOutPaulie
@PopOutPaulie 2 года назад
You can tell the story actually. Bonds and his records are in the HOF he just doesn't have a bust.
@Hikayuhuy
@Hikayuhuy 2 года назад
@@PopOutPaulie You can't watch a number. We watched Bonds because he did it when no one else could. The number is a reflection of the man and he got to 494 before 2000.
@therush420
@therush420 2 года назад
HOF is basically “You be nice to us, and we’ll be nice to you.”
@gadbammit4736
@gadbammit4736 2 года назад
Fucking worse than the Goddamn Grammys
@thegamerprofessor8416
@thegamerprofessor8416 2 года назад
The baseball hall of fame states the "tell the history of baseball" right at the entrance. Like it or not...these people are part of that history.
@reginaldinoenchillada3513
@reginaldinoenchillada3513 2 года назад
*means they won but they cheated.
@johnlewis8934
@johnlewis8934 2 года назад
@@reginaldinoenchillada3513 the whole sport of baseball is about cheating. The Astros won but no one puts an asterisks next to their ring
@Goku-dh3rt
@Goku-dh3rt 2 года назад
@@reginaldinoenchillada3513 Barry before steroid was still a beast
@JoeJoe-jx9vv
@JoeJoe-jx9vv 2 года назад
@@Goku-dh3rt Not so much sorry not sorry
@alexnankivell3717
@alexnankivell3717 2 года назад
So Bobby Bonilla should be in the Hall of Fame?
@DWilliams-ce8nb
@DWilliams-ce8nb 2 года назад
Steroids go back at least to the early 1960's. Even high schools were dishing them out in certain parts of the country. College football programs were absolutely providing them.
@cato256
@cato256 2 года назад
This is facts.
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 года назад
I read a story about Mantle and Maris actually making a huge bet with each other as to who would hit more home runs before the 1961 season. Allegedly Maris told several teammates,” I’m gonna take that stuff that Mick is taking”. They were experimenting with animal testosterone apparently….or something of that nature.
@TheBigBigSean
@TheBigBigSean 2 года назад
Greenies too.
@shackdaddy7106
@shackdaddy7106 2 года назад
Steroids were never a factor in baseball until the 1990s. Until then the conventional wisdom stated that weightlifting was bad for baseball players because it would make them too musclebound. Obviously they needed to be strong but also flexible.
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 года назад
@@shackdaddy7106 Ummm the 1986 Mets think this is a funny comment. Chris Davis also thinks this is funny considering he was hitting 50 bombs while he was juicing and then was god awful once he stopped so pretty much everything you said was inaccurate.
@jessecastillo3841
@jessecastillo3841 2 года назад
The only time I watched and cared about baseball. Was during that time. It was amazing to watch.
@Nirvanaowns54
@Nirvanaowns54 2 года назад
Bonds not being in is a disgrace. Despite PED's he still had a BA of .298 career over 22 years. You realize you still have to HIT the ball... this is unreal. 7 MVP's!!!! Enjoy your lockout, MLB
@Nighthawk-8050
@Nighthawk-8050 2 года назад
Bonds was a Hall of famer way before the steroids
@Mox3712
@Mox3712 2 года назад
He WAS a HOF'er before the roids, that's true but taking the roids erases all that. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime...
@stringer2295
@stringer2295 2 года назад
People really think steroids make you good at baseball lol
@MrKneri22
@MrKneri22 2 года назад
@@Mox3712 it wasnt against baseball rules at the time, and baseball wasnt testing for it. So there was no crime.....
@jamesvorraso3736
@jamesvorraso3736 10 месяцев назад
If they put bonds in it's a disgrace
@aaronhiggs
@aaronhiggs 2 года назад
Put them all in. But also acknowledge that they were doing PEDS. It happened. It doesn’t change the skill needed to be in the HOF.
@cain2k
@cain2k 2 года назад
Facts
@partypandamonium9116
@partypandamonium9116 2 года назад
I could take enough steroids to have arms the size of watermelons, I’m still not hitting a home run off of a MLB pitcher
@maxazzopardi7446
@maxazzopardi7446 2 года назад
if peds were in the 50s willie mays, duke snider, and sandy koufax may of used. i hate the moral high-ground people who act like players from the 90s were uniquely corrupt.
@BeefPapa
@BeefPapa 2 года назад
@@partypandamonium9116 This argument is overused and irrelevant. If you could already hit a baseball (like these guys) and then you add steroids..... I'll let you figure that one out.
@camreese
@camreese 2 года назад
The steroids did change the skill that made them hall of famers tho
@Y2K2PointO
@Y2K2PointO 2 года назад
Are they gonna remove all the guys who played during segregation and got an unfair advantage? Didn’t think so.
@Thaeffintruth
@Thaeffintruth 2 года назад
THIS !!!
@ericbrown1101
@ericbrown1101 2 года назад
Or all the amphetamine users? And spitballers?
@clumsysmurf8109
@clumsysmurf8109 2 года назад
It makes sense to leave out the PED players that are borderline (Palmeiro). But the ones that are well above and beyond like Bonds and Clemens doesn't make sense.
@danielstack4158
@danielstack4158 2 года назад
Palmeiro had over 3,000 hits and over 550 homeruns. He would never be borderline if it wasn't for his PED use.
@SirVic42
@SirVic42 2 года назад
@@danielstack4158 He was also an ace with the glove at first base for the first dozen years of his career. He was a shoo-in until he tested positive.
@danielstack4158
@danielstack4158 2 года назад
@@SirVic42 Oh yeah indeed, 3 gold glove awards I didn't mention.
@nacholibre8628
@nacholibre8628 2 года назад
Palmeiro is a hall of famer
@ericbrown1101
@ericbrown1101 2 года назад
@@nacholibre8628 I can't stand Palmeiro, but I still think he should be in the Hall.
@christopherkiraly
@christopherkiraly 2 года назад
I will go so far as to say baseball as we know it wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for ROIDS. After the 94-95 strike caused them to cancel the season... people were not coming back in droves to watch baseball, because they didn't care anymore. Football was beginning it's ascendancy towards being the top sport in the US. If it wasn't for McGuire and Sosa going after Maris' record, a lot of casual baseball fans would not have even cared about baseball. The homerun chase only brought people's eyes to the game again. Where would baseball be today, if not for that homerun chase?
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 2 года назад
A fact most forget.
@sumyungguy88
@sumyungguy88 2 года назад
They collected the profits and threw the players under the bus.
@ezramclain6320
@ezramclain6320 2 года назад
We all knew something was wrong that year but it was fun. I'm a Cubs fan I remember 30/30 club sosa and 40/40 Bonds before they both blew up. They were both great players before the roids.. same with Maguire. And they saved baseball after the strike.
@ThePecky1966
@ThePecky1966 2 года назад
@Derrell Connor ...and to top it off, Selig is in the Hall of Fame. This ish is unbelievable!
@stephenmonachello6256
@stephenmonachello6256 2 года назад
If they put Clemens and Bonds in, they have to put Pete Rose.
@Nighthawk-8050
@Nighthawk-8050 2 года назад
And Curt Schillings that's really a travesty that he's not in
@BeefPapa
@BeefPapa 2 года назад
I mean it's really not the same type of cheating. One helps your team win, while the other is just for self enrichment.
@denistuohy2535
@denistuohy2535 2 года назад
Idk I used to believe Rose should be in but there’s a massive difference between steroids before they were banned and gambling in games when it’s literally posted everywhere in every clubhouse the consequences of gambling. I wouldn’t hate it but I’m not exactly clamoring for it either
@Wyndamn
@Wyndamn 2 года назад
Man people really changed their attitudes as soon as Pete Rose was brought up went from "HELL YEAH BRO" to "Hey, hey, hey, hey wait a second now" 😆😆😆 cheating is cheating but it's a different kind of cheating ??? Like how does that work exactly ???
@tomjones2121
@tomjones2121 2 года назад
If you're going to put these cheaters in , then you need to put Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson in , and Jackson and Rose go in first
@petersurdo4984
@petersurdo4984 2 года назад
Baseball needs to face their hypocrisy.
@djgargar
@djgargar 2 года назад
This is real simple: You're going to put baseballs and bats hit/used by Barry Bonds in the Hall Of Fame, but not the player himself? That's insanity.
@jaimep3432
@jaimep3432 2 года назад
Hall of shame
@conman1495
@conman1495 2 года назад
I feel that despite what they did or are accused of doing, Bonds, Clemons and these other great players should be in the HOF because they are a part of baseball history. Make a section for players who were great but stained their careers in some way. Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe and the Black Sox, etc are historically important players that shouldn't be overlooked or shunned because of what they did.
@eugenedenbrook322
@eugenedenbrook322 2 года назад
I like this suggestion
@Vic-Vega
@Vic-Vega 2 года назад
First video comment & still the best.
@stoniestarks3970
@stoniestarks3970 2 года назад
Pugh, Bagwell, and Ortiz all had steroids allegations and failed test and they are in the HOF but these two can’t get in smh crazy
@samuelfaria8522
@samuelfaria8522 2 года назад
Why in the Hell Barry Bonds is being blackballed from the Hall of Fame for 10 years while David Ortiz who tested positive for steroids is a first Ballot? The Baseball Hall of Fame is the biggest Joke in sports history.
@gravitronlocksport9925
@gravitronlocksport9925 2 года назад
It's been estimated that up to 80% of the league was taking amphetamines by the 60s and 70s. Mays, Mantle, Stargell, just to name a few, have been implicated by multiple players over the years of not just taking them, but for throwing them around like candy. Gaylord Perry openly talked about how he was cheating, wrote a book about how he was cheating WHILE STILL PLAYING, and got caught cheating in a game, still just waltzed right in to the Hall. Tim Raines is in the Hall despite being named in the 85 drug trials and admitting to cocaine during games. The Hall of Fame of fame is filled with cheaters. Just can't have these ones getting in there, they might ruin its reputation or something.
@axe2grind244
@axe2grind244 2 года назад
Maris and Mantle were both taking animal test. They bet each other a huge amount of money who would hit more HR’s before the ‘61 season. Maris asked the entire team and clubhouse where he could get the “pills” Mick was taking so he could make it even and win the bet.
@gadbammit4736
@gadbammit4736 2 года назад
Cocaine is a hell of a drug
@saintsfan39475
@saintsfan39475 2 года назад
I still remember McGwire and Sosa racing for the homerun crown as one of the most exciting times of baseball. I miss that excitement. I barely pay attention to baseball now. Those players (in the steroid era) were great for the game.
@ThePecky1966
@ThePecky1966 2 года назад
It was the most excited I was about baseball in my life.
@jaimep3432
@jaimep3432 2 года назад
You must be a fan of the Russian olympic team.
@shanaeverowe9626
@shanaeverowe9626 2 года назад
His point at around 5:45 is all I am about. If they are so against these supposed steroids users, take all reference of them out. Not just their plaque in the fancy hall
@jaimep3432
@jaimep3432 2 года назад
That would be awsome
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 2 года назад
what a joke. Papi in but no Bonds? One of them tested positive and it wasn't Bonds.
@camreese
@camreese 2 года назад
Bonds tested positive twice and Papi didnt he cleared his name dont spread disinfo
@camreese
@camreese 2 года назад
Papi never tested positive for PEDs, but Bonds did twice don't spread disinfo do some research first, Ortiz was linked to a discredited 2003 screening and never failed again after that. Bonds did fail a test in 2000
@Vic-Vega
@Vic-Vega 2 года назад
@@camreese "He never tested positive." "He never failed again after that." 🤔🤔😂🤣
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers
@BlessedAreTheCheesemakers 2 года назад
@@Vic-Vega clown comments from cam
@smittydittysittingpretty9302
@smittydittysittingpretty9302 2 года назад
Who’s to say that roided hitters weren’t facing roided pitchers? I bet there were roided pitchers too. Eric Gagne comes to mind.
@MiniatureMorpheus
@MiniatureMorpheus 2 года назад
Not to mention my guy Troy Percival starting up the sticky ball rotation before rpm cameras were tracking it.
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 2 года назад
@@MiniatureMorpheus Gaylord Perry is in the HoF and he's known for doctoring the ball lol.
@FuzzyStayBuzzin183
@FuzzyStayBuzzin183 2 года назад
David Ortiz got in bc he's likable and the voters knew he did drugs
@Nighthawk-8050
@Nighthawk-8050 2 года назад
That's why Big papi got in he's likable even though he was juiced up your right
@dennisobrycki4029
@dennisobrycki4029 2 года назад
Cheapens all HOF members IMHO
@U.S._ARMYGWVDSS
@U.S._ARMYGWVDSS 2 года назад
Bless You Rich Eisen ! "Barry Barry" !
@inkyoo8
@inkyoo8 2 года назад
The Houston Astros got to keep their Championship after cheating. But the players don't get into the HOF? Hypocrites.
@michaelmcclure3918
@michaelmcclure3918 2 года назад
MLB made that call.
@inkyoo8
@inkyoo8 2 года назад
The MLB provides access and relationships for the writers. Without the MLB, the writers wold be jobless. Therefore, yes, the writers and MLB are hypocrites.
@carloscavazos9440
@carloscavazos9440 2 года назад
Excellent point
@patrickmurphy3151
@patrickmurphy3151 2 года назад
I will never go to Cooperstown again! The best players are not in the HOF therefore it is irrelevant. The sportswriters SUCK!
@jamilp2869
@jamilp2869 2 года назад
Bonds belongs in the Hall, period.
@HarryJoiner
@HarryJoiner 2 года назад
0:57 - Great operational definition of HOF: “… you cannot tell the story of the sport without including this person …”
@dennisobrycki4029
@dennisobrycki4029 2 года назад
I don't agree with that statement. The sport has been and always will be bigger than any individual
@johnlewis8934
@johnlewis8934 2 года назад
@@dennisobrycki4029 but it’s an actual fact though. When you hold the Home run record for both a single season and all time home runs you deserve to be in the Hall. Especially when it’s no definitive proof of you using drugs and you had a hall of fame career before the steroid era
@dennisobrycki4029
@dennisobrycki4029 2 года назад
@@johnlewis8934 the size of his head when he was playing should be proof for anyone! 🤣
@marvingreen583
@marvingreen583 2 года назад
Thank you, Rich Eisen for telling the truth. Baseball didn't test for it, so. Who is to say who cheated and who didn't?!?!?!? We don't know who is the who's that cheated.
@aioniansage6081
@aioniansage6081 2 года назад
Bonds is a cheat. You really going to rank Bonds over Aaron who was 'clean?'
@ctg404
@ctg404 2 года назад
@@aioniansage6081 where’s the proof? I’m waiting… Ortiz is the real cheat! Didn’t he tested positive genius?
@aioniansage6081
@aioniansage6081 2 года назад
@@ctg404 Go kid your grandmother.
@at2130
@at2130 2 года назад
@@aioniansage6081 Hell yeah I am. Hank wasn't half the player Barry was. Not too mention Barry didn't take anything until he was 34 years old. Hank wasn't clean himself.
@aioniansage6081
@aioniansage6081 2 года назад
@@at2130 Barry is a cheat and a fraud ! The only people worse would be those defending cheats and frauds ! AND THE BASEBALL WORLD AGREES WITH ""ME."" Put that in your ball-bag and smoke it !
@tylermccann848
@tylermccann848 2 года назад
As if the voters aren't fallible. Seeing just another example why there shouldn't be a character clause in voting. You simply can't tell the story of baseball without guys like Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, Schilling, Clemens and even Rose... All legendary players.
@useyourblues
@useyourblues 2 года назад
He made a great point that actually sways my opinion - The Commissioner of Baseball from the Steroid Era is enshrined in the Hall... so why aren't the players?
@NightcoreNewbie
@NightcoreNewbie 2 года назад
This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me either. Ortiz tested positive for PEDs before but suddenly the other players who also did didn't get in? Sounds like bias to me.
@mehdinaghavi685
@mehdinaghavi685 2 года назад
Ortiz is often called the drugstore.
@allenwatson9273
@allenwatson9273 2 года назад
I understand protecting the shield or logo or whatever. But as a Hall of Fame you dont have the all hits leader in the hall. The homerun leader not in, and one of the premiere starting pitchers in the past 40 years all not in the hall. So what we have is the hall of good or the hall of the nice guys.
@BrunoJaws
@BrunoJaws 2 года назад
I remember being a little kid at a Padre Pirates game and a skinny Barry Bonds was stealing bases robbing homeruns hitting home runs talking crap to the fans . He was very arrogant and a great baseball player. You could tell he was a hall of famer by the way he walk. He was that good and constantly beat my Padres with homeruns before the steroid era. He was a skinny athletic fast powerful 5 tool player from 86 to 94 best in the game. From a Padre fan Barry is a clear cut Hall of Famer.
@byronsmith3152
@byronsmith3152 2 года назад
I think it is funny people say skinny Barry. The dude was 6' 1" and 190 damn pounds. That is not some skinny dude LOL. Now compared to 230 lbs, I agree but 190 is not small.
@jaimep3432
@jaimep3432 2 года назад
@@byronsmith3152 someone who is 6'1 should weight 200 pounds genius
@byronsmith3152
@byronsmith3152 2 года назад
@@jaimep3432 I think logic has left you a long time ago. All I said was a guy at that height. who ways 190 Lbs is not a small and skinny dude. SMDH.
@nileslaborde8120
@nileslaborde8120 2 года назад
If you put them in... Pete Rose & Shoeless Joe Jackson need to be put in as well...
@markosekulic119
@markosekulic119 2 года назад
Hope Curt Schilling gets in too. Dude was awesome in his days. They should keep other things out of way for selecting him to hall of fame.
@louisnemzer6801
@louisnemzer6801 2 года назад
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth? Or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?"
@spsawyer22
@spsawyer22 2 года назад
Still one of the greatest lines in that show's history.
@iraevans2013
@iraevans2013 2 года назад
What I take away here is this , (personally) IDC if the writers vote for or against anybody but GODDAMMIT vote for someone. Zero vote should mean forfeit your vote. Someone else gets to vote instead.
@raycapetillo5569
@raycapetillo5569 2 года назад
Same thing for Pete Rose, one of two players to ever hit 4000 + hits. Is he a role model? No. However, his baseball abilities are undeniable.
@michaellalli7693
@michaellalli7693 2 года назад
The Hall of Fame is losing interest with fans due to the BBWA that don’t use discernment while holding personal bias. Due to free speech or the athletes off field behavior toward the media. Bonds Clemens Manny A Rod all should be in the HOF - it’s a joke
@michaelmccourt4992
@michaelmccourt4992 2 года назад
Bonds was a HOF player before steroids ran rampant through the league.
@323johnnybravo
@323johnnybravo 2 года назад
Everyone was juiced out of their minds back then. Clemens and Bonds were already so good that juice made them god tier much like lance Armstrong. Put them in. This is stupid.
@MrMegaGamerMan
@MrMegaGamerMan 2 года назад
Love the baseball coverage! Too many shows just start talking about basketball when football is over (or almost over). Where's hockey?? Where's baseball?? Don't follow the herd!
@DanielOrteez
@DanielOrteez 2 года назад
If their stats don't have asterisks then their HOF plaques shouldn't have asterisks either.
@jkaise42
@jkaise42 2 года назад
The fact that Pete still isn’t in an abomination
@michaels.chupka9411
@michaels.chupka9411 2 года назад
and with all the hypocrisy and complicity between the players, the owners, and mlb, now you can understand why bud selig should not be allowed anywhere near the hall. and why were they doing it? to boost the popularity/monetary haul for the sport.
@dannyd7368
@dannyd7368 2 года назад
How many times can you let us know you worked at ESPN
@vintagevinylvets1187
@vintagevinylvets1187 2 года назад
“It was awesome!” Yes it was Rich, yes it was.
@BidenIsKing
@BidenIsKing 2 года назад
Can’t wait til they fix the hall! Bonds, Maguire, Popi and little Sammy Boy! Man, Sammy was so damn positive, love that dude! Maybe Rose could introduce them all!
@denistuohy2535
@denistuohy2535 2 года назад
2:10 I read an article once that proved Brady Anderson didn’t do roids it was really interesting
@Joseph-lz5er
@Joseph-lz5er 2 года назад
Ortiz knows without the PED's he would have been a 250- 260 average hitter with 25 to 30 homerun guy. A good player but no way a HOF level player. He also knows, Clemens and Bonds were better overall players than he was.
@CityLover117
@CityLover117 2 года назад
Thanks for the shout out to the beauty of upstate NY rich! Our sunsets are truly have unique shades of red orange and purple
@Theiliteritesbian
@Theiliteritesbian 2 года назад
A museum shows the good and the bad throughout history. Its a place for learning, not just another way to advertise.
@kavellifrancois1794
@kavellifrancois1794 2 года назад
Baseball HOF is ridiculous
@michaelmojica9057
@michaelmojica9057 2 года назад
Just an excellent take. I'm in agreement, put them in.
@catgolfer1
@catgolfer1 2 года назад
Willie Mays is still the greatest postwar player.😺
@dennisrobbins7857
@dennisrobbins7857 2 года назад
Fact, straight up fact! Mr. Mays, Bonds' Godfather, is ths best all around player of all time.
@renlysotherlover294
@renlysotherlover294 2 года назад
Personally I think they should all be in and frankly I wish they would give them back the greenies and peds. For me as a kid that was the best era of baseball and I miss it terribly. Todays game is so boring to me as an adult
@TWP13
@TWP13 2 года назад
Of course the voting is broken. Just like it is in the NFL and the NBA.
@kingcali6507
@kingcali6507 2 года назад
Money talks
@NateBee
@NateBee 2 года назад
They should be in the hall of fame but remove those fake home run records.
@frankallen3634
@frankallen3634 2 года назад
Bonds was a hall of famer well before the homeruns. At least we have a murderer in the hall. The steroid era was the only enjoyable time in baseballs long and boring history
@DMJoeBing
@DMJoeBing 2 года назад
I literally liked this before it played. This has been my stance since the first rumblings of PEDs were heard. There's a ton of scrupulous players with questionable moral standards already in. Babe Ruth? Notoriously slept with prostitutes, which ended his first marriage, contacted syphilis from it. Gaylord Perry and Whitey Ford? They, among many other pitchers, doctored the ball every start. What about the 75% of players in the 1970s that used amphetamines ("greenies"), including most of the HOF inductees from that time? Or how about Pud Galvin, who at 32 felt he needed more has in the tank, so he drank GROUND UP MONKEY TESTICLES to try and get more testosterone...in 1889.
@alestev24
@alestev24 2 года назад
You are so correct.
@BASS_the_3rd
@BASS_the_3rd 2 года назад
Hell no. Absolutely not.
@mkadoza
@mkadoza 2 года назад
Yet another reason that Baseball is Dying. They've want to pretend like two decades didnt happen.
@heartcurious_snowman
@heartcurious_snowman 2 года назад
Criteria clause has got “character” to it as well.
@mneugent7658
@mneugent7658 2 года назад
Its a museum. They let Ortiz in? That seals it, put them all in. Baseball is entertainment and you know the PEDs were everywhere and also NOT against the rules. Face it, every generation would've used them if they could.
@davew4377
@davew4377 2 года назад
Big Mac and Sousa home run Chase was the best season ever
@mainman127
@mainman127 2 года назад
If they all go in then Dick Allen has to go in too …he was scariest hitter for over a decade. That would work…
@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879
@opticscolossalandepicvideo4879 2 года назад
Main man dick Allen? He makes harold baines look like babe Ruth. Dick Allen wasn’t even close to hall of fame. It’s outrageous
@jeffreece5542
@jeffreece5542 2 года назад
I am just asking because I don't know, but with today's advancements in medicine Is today's legal substances stronger than the steroids of the 70's 80's?
@jenniferrenolds2226
@jenniferrenolds2226 2 года назад
90s !!!!! What a time
@ac8274
@ac8274 2 года назад
Writers never had any business voting for the HOF in the first place. People who have never played the sport do not deserve to vote for who goes into the HOF. MotherEFF the Baseball writers.
@dperl5640
@dperl5640 2 года назад
Bottom line Ortiz tested positive for PED use. And got in first ballot. That is all you need to know. How do writers use that as an excuse for some and not others?
@letmediecast
@letmediecast 2 года назад
Ortiz wasn't fucking a 15-year-old at the height of his career... like Roger Clemens. Can we seriously not see the real reason? No answer for Barry Juicer Bonds though.
@777FreakyD
@777FreakyD 2 года назад
If they all had came clean originally, I think we'd forgive/forget.
@mcleanse
@mcleanse 2 года назад
Except McGwire has no hall of fame numbers besides his home run total. He doesn't even have 2000 hits.
@TheGingerExpress243
@TheGingerExpress243 2 года назад
The only reason papi is in and Clemens and Bonds aren't is because papi was friendly with the media and they weren't
@ClexaPride
@ClexaPride 2 года назад
I always said create a separate wing for 1990 - 2005
@jc--sta1664
@jc--sta1664 2 года назад
It's the Baseball Hall of Fame & Museum, not the Ethics and Morality Hall of Fame & Museum.
@gldn9199
@gldn9199 2 года назад
Awards for cheating smh 🤦
@BidenIsKing
@BidenIsKing 2 года назад
Why do I always feel like a soy boy after watching Rich? My testosterone levels drop to record lows every time I hear him speak.
@RJMay3
@RJMay3 2 года назад
How many times were you in Cooperstown? Sit down Rich.
@collinkenney4573
@collinkenney4573 2 года назад
I feel if we can let known cheaters into the hall of fame why can't we let Pete rose in?
@Pigpensblanket
@Pigpensblanket 2 года назад
The steroid Era of baseball, is the Era that saved baseball from dying out
@tommydevine9993
@tommydevine9993 2 года назад
"suspected PED users" 😂 that's a good one! It's like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a "suspected cannibal" 🤣
@stillthekid333
@stillthekid333 2 года назад
Either way the hof is a mockery.
@robertdice7786
@robertdice7786 2 года назад
This world is so hypocritical because alot of businesses, sponsorships, and betting people profited off of it. The same people pointing fingers today, weren't complaining back then!
@tomrockhill8634
@tomrockhill8634 2 года назад
Agreed 👍 The stars of the 70's were taking uppers and Downers like candy. Barry Bonds and Roger Clements were MLB legends BEFORE the steroids!!
@donphilp7511
@donphilp7511 2 года назад
Do not even suggest you are going to change your mind and honor cheaters
@frankpalancio8471
@frankpalancio8471 2 года назад
Need a PED wing to the baseball HOF
@michaelotten2724
@michaelotten2724 10 месяцев назад
Luis gonzalez? 50 homeruns?😂. Put bonds in hof!!
@heartcurious_snowman
@heartcurious_snowman 2 года назад
Much respect Rich. Your argument, as eloquently as you put it, discredits the diligent hard work of players that chose not to PED. Agree, these guys were amazing...do an additional wing for players with an asterisk. “Steroid era” still discredits the honest guys.
@denistuohy2535
@denistuohy2535 2 года назад
I’m waiting for a good argument for keeping Wagner, Helton, Rolen, Kent, Nathan, Papelbon and Burhle our of the hall.
@jsain360
@jsain360 2 года назад
Good players not HOF, if Fred McGriff isn't in, then Kent, Rolen, and Helton shouldn't be in
@denistuohy2535
@denistuohy2535 2 года назад
@@jsain360 I think McGriff should be in. Kent has the most home runs by a second baseman ever he HAS to be in.
@michaelmcclure3918
@michaelmcclure3918 2 года назад
Didn't Pete Alonso break the rookie HR record?
@RandomGuy285
@RandomGuy285 2 года назад
Yes. And that was already after Aaron Judge broke Mac's record 5 years ago. Pete then broke Judge's record a couple years later. Love Rich, but yes it is pretty clear that he hasn't covered baseball in nearly 20 years as he mentioned in the beginning.
@PianoUniverse
@PianoUniverse 2 года назад
Just have the steroid wing. Papi will fit nicely.
@Snowglare
@Snowglare 2 года назад
Nope. Never ever.
@6412mars
@6412mars 2 года назад
Everybody was NOT DOING IT!
@donphilp7511
@donphilp7511 2 года назад
add a wing and call it the cheater's wing
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