Enshrine or Decline: Curt Schilling's case for the Hall of Fame | Outside the Lines 

Dude has 3K strikeouts with over 200 wins and he’s being called a “borderline HOFer” 😂😂

A lifelong Yankee fan and I hate his politics but he deserves to be in

Schilling retired with a career postseason record of 11-2, and his .846 postseason winning percentage is a major-league record among pitchers with at least ten decisions.[1] He is a member of the 3,000 strikeout club and has the highest strikeout-to-walk ratio of any of its members. He is tied for third for the most 300-strikeout seasons.[2]

It's the Hall of Fame about what you did during your career not what happened after. Same with NBA NFL or anything that has a legitimate Hall of Fame it's about your performance in your sport not if you're a Hall of Fame human being

This is Hall of Fame for MLB, not for political views. Curt deserves to get in based on his baseball statistics. Schilling did not make "offensive posts" on social media. He posted things that "offended people". There's a difference.

The baseball writers remind me of a HOA committee coming to my house telling me my address box lite is flickering and needs to be changed it should be 100 percent based on your onfield achievements

It’s so stupid that he isn’t in because you don’t like his politics.

Curt Schilling can't be in the hall of fame because he's a republican ? That just shows you how nasty American politics are. Curt Schilling went to the world series with three different clubs and won with two of them. 3 rings to go with 3, 300 strikeout seasons and we can throw in an 11 and 2 postseason record...... that equals Hall of Fame.

ESPN please do more content like this.

If Ty Cobb is in the HOF, then Schilling deserves to be in. This is coming from a die hard Yankee fan.

“Doesn’t have a surefire hof resume” yeah, 3k strikeouts, 200 wins, one of the best postseason careers ever isn’t a surefire hof resume? Just keep politics out of the game and recognize him for his achievements on the field

Jeff Passan is right on the money. Couldn't have said it any better.

ESPN calling his views abhorrent while employing Keith Olbermann, Mark Jones, and Jemele Hill is laughable.

Best playoff pitcher of all time

Well, if Schilling's career isn't at a hall of fame standard, then neither it's Andy Pettitte nor CC Sabathia. Curt was better than those two. His ERA was way better than the ones already mentioned. Curt Schilling is probably even better than some pitchers enshrined in Cooperstown, Jack Morris comes to mind and a few others. Even Mike Mussina's career ERA was higher. Three seasons of 300 ks or more, 3,000 plus career ks, 216 career wins, 11-2 record with 2.23 ERA in the post season, you tell that's not a hall of fame pitcher, well tell me what it is. By the way Curt Schilling's career ERA was 3.46 way better than the ones I already mentioned here. Analyze again what some of you might think about his case. The hall of fame is not about politics, it's about on field stats.

I agree with his politics and he deserves to be a hall of a fame

I’m a yankee fan, straight from the Bronx, and Curt belongs with Pedro, Papi, Manny, Brodeur, Mourning, Brady and Miller as guys who you hated to see bc they torched NY every time. What a competitor, I don’t share his politics but don’t agree with his exclusion from the hall.

He was my hero… I ended up hating him for his politics but he’s a true HOF’er

As a Yankee Fan since 1968... I hated Schilling.... but he's a HoFer or the Hall is a joke... We already know the writers are a joke...

He should 100% be in

As a Red Sox fan he should be in I’d put him in I don’t agree with his politics but politics but it’s what you do on the field

The first denial to HOF -- only because his politics aren't right... we are witnessing another step towards the end of our country.

Schilling not being in the HOF due to his political beliefs is nothing more than an indictment on the HOF, the voters, and the process. Apparently, the process is corrupted with people who have interests and agendas that overshadow their responsibility to look at a man's baseball career and judge it against his peers. Sad time to be a sports fan.

Credit to Passan for being logical and reasonable... Look guys its the baseball HOF... Its about performance not a character assestment, and by the work on the field Shilling is a slam dunk HOF, this is coming from someone who hates the Sox.. The fact that shilling is getting canceled due to politicals is shameful. If he supported burming ciites down lawlessness for the sake of "social justice" he would be celebrated... But because he is actually sane he his hated.

Curt Schilling is a hall of famer.

Calling his stats borderline is just looking for excuses not to enshrine him. ERA is a stupid statistic to base an entire HOF argument around, but if you are going to use it, at least era adjust it. His career ERA+ is the same as Bob Gibson and Tom Seaver. He played in the steroid era with no touch of steroid allegations, so his ERA isn't as low as it could be, but considering the era he played in, it still was quite impressive. He has 3000 strikeouts. That's not borderline - its first ballot. Then you add in his postseason performances. Bottom line, the voters just don't like the guy because his tweets are ridiculous and inflammatory and often strongly anti-journalist. But these same voters gave him the Roberto Clemente award for character during his career. He is a HOFer. I honestly don't think there are many times the writers elected guys that didn't deserve to be in the HOF (most of the random guys that shouldn't be there came through era committees where there is more backroom dealing between the voters). But they really missed the boat with this one, and have left out way or short shafted way too many good candidates during the steroid era while they squabble over what to do with Bonds and Clemens. Cheating the game is one thing and I can understand the voters reservations (even if there are definitely steroid users in the HOF, some first ballot). But not liking his tweets is not a reason to keep someone out of the HOF, especially if you have to make up a borderline argument just to justify it.

He's the guy you wanted on the mound in the post season. That's all I have to say.

This used to be a free country, and you used to be able to express your thoughts... ...not anymore. If you have the wrong (i.e., Conservative) views you're going to get cancelled. It's appalling that sports writers have kept this man out. Curt Schilling absolutely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. As a Red Sox fan, I genuinely hope Curt gets in... I'll always appreciate what he did for us in 2004 and 2007. Thank you Curt, and good luck!

Schilling will get into the HoF with the Veteran's Committee, which Schilling mentioned would carry more meaning for him. He and his wife wrote the book "The Best Kind of Different: Our Family's Journey with Asperger's Syndrome" about raising a son with Asperger's, and last year Curt mentioned that he has it as well. That shed a lot of light on his behavior off the field. It's a shame that the effects of Schilling's disability has been what's kept him out of the HoF for the time being.

I disagree with his politics but he belongs in the hall of fame.

He should be a HOF plain and simple

Yes Curt Schillings should be in the Hall of Fame. And put Pete Rose in as well

I've watched his career since AZ to retirement and this is the first time I've even heard of his political views. Call me old fashion but I don't have social media

OF COURSE HE DESERVES TO BE IN THE HALL OF FAME! This is why I hate baseball…Such a bad look

The baseball HOF is just a joke without Pete Rose

Second to Randy Johnson in Cy Young voting three times, World Series MVP, 3,000+ strike outs, Jeff Passan is right, Schilling is a slam dunk Hall of Famer. "Boarderline player"-- give me an ever loving break. Schilling's refusal to go along with the liberal narrative is the only reason he is not in Cooperstown.

The MLB is the toughest pro sports HOF to get access to. I didn't like the guy but he was a solid reliable player when it counted...

HOF of feelings

considering the fact that mike mussina got in on this first ballot and had very similar numbers to schilling i'd say you need to let schilling in just because he made some remarks that offend the liberal media they are keeping him out while there are people who did a lot worse that are in the hall of fame. in the words of the late great bernie mac in the movie mr 3000 let him in let him in let's hear it again let him in

He definitely is a HOF and im a Yankees fan baseball wise he is

As a RedSox fan, he should've got in before Ortiz

I'm for Curt 😊😊😊❤

He should be in the HOF, not only are his politics his opinion, he’s actually right .

Here because Luis Castillo of my Seattle Mariners makes me think of Curt Schilling.

The statement at 4:06 is mild. If you erode free speech, you may not even know what you think it is you’re fighting against. Even if you think something is wrong, such a degree of intolerance of speech is, in turn, a form of soft violence, the same violence you likely say you’d stand against. Valuing truth and understanding is so much more fulfilling than petty egoism. In general, I have yet to find a political opinion that wasn’t subjected to holes or faults, or potential prejudices or injustices. Stop incessantly fighting. Start truly loving.

As a lifelong Yankees fan I hated and still dislike this guy however numbers don’t lie let him in !!!

Bryant and Kurkjian saying Schilling is “borderline” and “teetering” is nothing short of disgraceful. I guess if you know nothing about sabermetrics, you can get away with that, but it doesn’t make the point legitimate in any way. He has nearly 80 bWAR, is fifth all-time in era-adjusted FIP, over 3,000 strikeouts, the best K/BB ratio post-1900, a fantastic ERA+ of 127, and that’s just the regular season. He is the best postseason pitcher ever, with a 2.23 ERA in the heart of the steroids era, had a 4.09 WPA in the postseason, the best ever. Add onto that being 4-0 with a 1.37 ERA in five elimination games, and his playoff resume is basically flawless. A phenomenal pitcher who is one of the 10 greatest ever. His political views kept him out, but to say that he was borderline in any way just shows how little understanding of baseball statistics that Bryant and Kurkjian have.

Easily a hall of famer.

Yet Pete Rose is forgotten. Smh.

Curt Schilling is absolutely a Hall of Famer. The Pro Baseball HOF is a joke and a sham.

3000 k, postseason pitcher, owns the dynasty Yankees

The hate you spew will come back to hurt you.

Why is Kennesaw Mountain Landis in the Hall? He kept black players out of MLB for decades!

shoulda been in the writers just 🅱️ums

I thought being in the HOF was based on your actions ON THE FIELD OF PLAY, NOT for your political or personal views after your playing career ended. 🤔🤷 I'm not a conservative (I'm considered a centrist, believe in some right like law&order and some left things like legalize it 😎👍), I just believe the rules should be followed here.

5:09 lol what????? What does that have to do with the actual numbers and impact on the game. Cmon this is ridiculous

He should’ve been in on the first ballot.

If you think ELI MANNING deserves To be in HOF then you should definitely think curt is bc dominate in postseason if not you dont

Vote him in you sensitive Sallies

imagine excluding someone for speaking the truth lmao sounds like the c/l/o/w/n world we live in.

People like Howard Bryant keep Schilling out

Enshrine with a M.A.G.A hat on lol

Hof is a joke. Yankee fan here and we definitely know he's belongs in.

It’s illegal to be a republican at the end of the day 😂😂😂

i think his politics are disgusting to be honest and im conservative but he never cheated the game of baseball the resume doesn't lie he should be in the hall of fame

best pitcher of all times

How is Alex Rodriquez not in the hof?

It’s a joke that he’s not in

The hall of Fame has been made a joke by those responsible for adding to it.

It's odd everyone saying it's his politics keeping him out, and maybe it is what's keeping him from getting over the top. But he has been considered borderline since the day he retired. Well before he started taking heat for his outspoken views. So to imply that the only reason not to vote him in is for his views is just plain incorrect.

Base ball got to many comities make the decision base on when they were playing

If politics are going to be considered then why should we have all the racist players from the 50s, 60s be consistent, the writers are there to judge if there career was good not if they were a good player

its the baseball hall of fame not the hall of fame of political opinions i agree with , put him in ! The BBHOF is in AMERICA , the issue is his speech . Need i remind you , The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Borderline is hilarious, and political views shouldnt be a barrier to a hall of the best mlb players.

Enshrine

schilling and sturtze on the yankees 2004 team are both conservatives.

Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time so if he’s not in HOF it means HOF doesn’t mean anything.

I wish players stats determine hof credentials not politics. HOFer for sure!!!

Jeff passan is manchild,,Nintendo behind him?

Bruh if you have ty cobb and other messed up people in the hall of fame schilling deserves to be there.

But yet if he was a liberal and started calling out conservatives, he would already be in the hall of fame. Double standard at it's finest.

amazing postseason pitcher... hall of fame is a joke.. No Bonds lmao joke of a hall of fame

This is a abuse.

No way!!!

why does character matter? well, consider the following scenario: young pitchers who look up to him and then find out that Schilling can't like or respect them because of their race, ethnicity, or creed. sorry, that type of behavior just doesn't fly with me...

Never getting in 😂😂😂😂

Hey. If Ty Cobb can be in. So can he.

He should have learned to keep his mouth shut and played ball.

He wasted his best, prime years on garbage Phillies teams, so you have to take that into consideration.

They should of left his name off, like he requested, and we wouldn't be having this conversation now!

i don't think he's a hall of famer

Let’s go Brandon.

lifetime orioles fan (yea i know.....im ok) so i loved him as a player but the HOF is obviously not based solely (or in some cases not even partly) on stats. I guess with schilling it comes down to him being a genuinely racist, homophobic, elitist type of person in life. s So by those standards they did a great job. plus he knows it or else he wouldnt have taken his name off. most people, i do believe, that are racist (whether they change or not) deep down inside know their views are askew.

Baseball is dead.

He should not be in the hall of fame

His politics Are unacceptable

Schilling should be in no doubt