🔥 6010 Roots and Bad Fit-up 

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Mr. Bob and Jody from welding tips and tricks are the best Welding instructors on RU-vid hands down!!!

That 1/8" 6010 75 AMP root pass was brutal, I guess the key is to just keep flicking the rod up to let the weld pool cool slightly. I'd blow it out for sure, thanks for sharing your vast knowledge bob, I really appreciate the efforts you put into sharing this free content with us all.

thumbs up for the tool time reference.

I'm across the pond and say thanks for the metric translation :) Have a nice weekend

I like the split screen a lot.

I picked up arc welding less than a year ago and your videos have helped me understand the "do's and don'ts" when it comes to dealing with difficult repairs on the job. Keep em coming!! Great job Sir....

LOL that reaction to the glove

This helped me by enforcing the notion that welding is an art that even the highly skilled have difficulty with at times. I knew I certainly struggled with certain welds and situations and it's reassuring to see you struggle too. Thanks again. And again. And again...

Thanks for the measurement really helped for me in the land down under

Once worked with a very respected pipe welder that welded so hot the rod would melt off at about 2 1/2", yet that man had a wallet full of tickets. Never could weld with that mans machine. Nice video Bob! I'll enjoy any welding video you can throw at me.

You are the man. I strive to be this good. But I did pretty well on my 6010 SMAW open groove test plates. I like the 1/8" fit myself. And the sound it makes when you keyhole, I love welding

Love it that you started converting inches in to millimeter. I'm so lost with inches. Greetings from sweden.

After Welding school I was good and left welding for over 7years... Now I'm back and following up with your tips almost everyday and it feels like I never left a day. Your guide and all. I love the way you made it look so simple and that's what's got me going. I really love welding It makes me feel like a Man hahahah

"I need to order me up a piece of rebar to fill that up." Haha, awesome.

Thanks for the videos, I'm training for a 6G test with a root pass with 6010 and its kicking my ass but your videos are giving me tips i plan to use this Monday.

Stick welding is much more difficult than Mig and welding up big gaps I find is very hard with stick so it was an education to see a seasoned welder battle with a big gap! Great to see the metric conversion too!. Many thanks for posting young man!

Mr. Moffett thanks for the video. I asked you to make this video to show me and everyone how to deal with the big roots and wide gaps with stick welder, and this video is what i was looking for. Thank you again.

sir you are my teacher and i m watching daily your videos and i understanding

Teaching myself to weld. Love your videos. Always glad to see those who pass on knowledge. Been watching Wally for a long time too. Keep up the good work.

It's good to watch another lefty work

Luv this guys honesty

This must be the 10th or so time watching this video. A good refresher. But i gotta say after all the times i have watched this video or any other video on here, 10:00 in STILL cracks me up! Hahah love you bob, and this channel.

Man, Bob. You're a real one. Have helped me out immensely throughout my welding journey. Thanks for all the lessons, brother.

Shoutout to the weld professor!! 🤘🤘

Stick welding is just the coolest :)

i loved the Tim Taylor reference lol

It always helps to watch you teacher.

You are very humble Bob.....You guys do a great job!

. your videos are a great recourse for anyone interested in welding . thanks for all your hard work.

I thought my skill was poor with 3 16th gap. glad I heard it from you that bigger gap is not always beneficial.

I’m learning how to weld uphill, and I run into that wider gap much more often than I’d like. I think I get nervous to step too far ahead and open up the keyhole way too much, so I probably don’t step far enough ahead. Puts tons of heat into such a small spot. Will try stepping out just a tad further 👍🏻

Mr Bob you have been more then helpful with welders trying to break in the gas and oil field. We are usually given 3 test all x-ray pass its usually a 4" sch 10 stainless steel, a 2" sch 80 to 120 carbon tig all the way out and a 2" same sch as your tig but 6010 root and 7018 fill and cap all on 6g or 6g restricted. I watch all your videos I even have notification on when your videos are uploaded. If I can make a request and im sure other pipe welders would like to see also is if you can do a stainless steel sch 10 tig pipe on a 5 or 6g position

Love it! You should do the same thing, but with inconsistent cuts and bevels!

Pulled out the tool man taylor! Nice

Great video bob. I like your style . Been welding since 09 and you do bump into somr bad fit ups and you have to do what you do to keep getting a check and its definitely important on when to say no. I have learned some great tips from guys older than me and guys like you keep it real and true. Not all welding is perfect setup and fit up and that is reality that new welders could use help on. I enjoyed the bloopers take care

Miss ya Bob!

Congratulations on the 100k subscribers!

Thank you for your teaching.

@ 9:59 lol funny!!! more power!!!! Tim the "toolman" Taylor fan... way, way too funny 😁👍

1/8" is what we were schooled on in my day

I just found this channel a few weeks ago and I LOVE THIS SHIT! Love the outtakes at the end

I always smoke my stuff in, then again most of my jobs have always been production and speed is your friend in meeting quotas. Run it hot and fast!

Thank you Sir. you are a great teacher, and it is appreciated.

Man that looks like a pain. I haven't been able to properly weld a complete root pass on a 8th gap cause I couldnt tell if it was just welding reallyyy slowly or I actually wasnt doing anything besides blowing a huge hole in my plate

Another great, helpful and informative video! Bob is so damned laid back the tool time/home improvement reference took me by surprise. The out takes at the end are good stuff too!

I've worked with bad fit-ups before with MIG. Not quite as bad as that last one, but I used basically the same technique of working from the sides, then filling in the gap. I learned that you really have to watch the heat. Too much and you end up fighting to keep the puddle intact. Too little heat gives a poor weld without the strength. The thinner the base metal, the finer the line you have to walk.

Good job brother

This was a very informative video for me. Thanks for posting.

Wow nice technique with that really big gap. I will have to give that technique a try with my everlast stick welder.

Since I don't have a DC machine, I usually prefer to run E6011. My personal favorite electrode, but a big enough charge can overload the E6010 making both electrodes interchangeable.

I LIKE you. You're my new king of welding island.

I don't always arc out on my table but when I do try to rub it off.....lol... I got enrolled for boot camp the second one....have good one.

My fav method for wider gaps is 2 roots on the bevels (4 in total, 2 on each side) then I'll weave in my 3rd to join them for my fillers and finishing passes. Give it a shot, you should even be able to get by on a 1/4in gap with just one root on each bevel if you know how to weave in your last root correctly. I always use a crescent or Z weave for my joining root and for my finishing passes

Another nice video Bob. I really enjoyed this one. I'm like You. I don't like big gaps. I'm practicing 7016 and 7018 root at the moment because we rarely use 6010/6011 here in Europe. It's hard but I'm getting better at it.

Thanks bob for the videos. Watching a 2nd and 3rd time there still is info pouring out of all your instruction which is awesome. As a long time motorsports guy just learning to tig (always leaned on mig - and stick years ago), can you do a vid about controlling heat to get going. Practice beads going good, real joints not so much. Sure would love to take advantage of the summer class you are offering but I can't on your first go around, so hopefully that program is a success and is offered again!!! Thanks again for your efforts

Thanks, The Gap was to wide for my Liking as the inside,or back side ,,,,,Well to wide, glad you agreed

on the job I had to fill a 3/4 inch gap with 3/32 rods. We were out of 1/8 and it had to be done

I hate to say it, but after years of helping people cheap out on replacing ugly holes with welds... I find that the bigger gaps aren't that bad. They take some moving, but if you're ADHD... You'll love it!😂 I guess it's a matter of necessity in being used to it and needing it done ASAP. Cheap is cheap and I learned that the day my dad came home with a new Lincoln buzz box and over 20lbs of 6011 in one size... *BIG!* Just for me and him working on his tractor attachments.

This reminds me of my very first job I got called to. A project where they had 2 massive structures 120 feet tall attached to the side of a huge 300 foot long dredging barge....There were gaps 1.5 inches wide in places! Serious safety concerns everywhere too....I was scared as hell and dumb as FK! :) Today I would just walk off a site like that...Nothing good happens on sites like that

Excellent!

I was showed a trick before for wide gaps like that, and the trick was actually a 1/16 6010/6011. ran on 60-70 amp, yes it smokes the rod but in my opinion it welds damn good on those wide gaps. idk I was taught big gap small rod, small gap big rod. burn it hot and it burn right in..

thanks for the good vid i would to see more technic in tig stainless steel thanks..... im following you from jordan

This here is a good un! So many of us struggle with the 6010 open root and you have shown some excellent footage of different fit ups and how to deal with those situations! Well done Sir!

Trying this technique rn in welding school…… it’s not easy.

This is the kind of stuff you run into in the real world especially working on broken equipment. It's nothing to have a 3/4" gap to fill in a broken part which is where flux-core will definitely save you a ton of time. Fast-Freeze electrodes work but it takes forever to finish the job 😒 A "U" whip is best for filling large gaps. It focuses the heat equally on both sides unlike a "J" technique being used in this clip. Personally, I find this type of welding to be a good test because it makes you think outside the box 😉

Can you guys do a video on all of the larger sizes of rods and different types of rods. Like a full and entire comprehensive video on all of it. Rods from 8th inch to 5/16 and 1/4 inch rod. And electrodes such as 6011, 6010, 7018, 7024, 8010, 6013, 7014, 7018 AC and others I may have missed. I'm looking for a video that does a complete and entire comprehensive look at these rods and sizes and techniques used when welding with all of these rods. As well as running all of these rod types on DCEN, DCEP and AC and seeing what they can run. i.e running 7018 on AC when it's designed for DCEP and DCEN. So just seeing what they can run on. Just seeing what they can be run on if say I have a rod and I don't have a DC machine. A video showing what the beads from all of the different types of rods should and would look like. So we know what to look for. And how to make a good penetrating weld while making our bead width longer. (For non critical welds) How to repair a plate I punch a hole through that I am using for a project that isn't a critical weld. Say I don't want to get another plate and I can't grind it and I can't use a backing plate. How do I repair the hole in the metal using a welding rod? And what rod should I use? I have personally ran into the problem where I punched a hole in my material and I can't use a backing plate and I can't just cut it or grind it. Since at the point I was at I was so far into the project that it wasn't an easy spot to just grind it or use a backing plate. So I lost a lot of money on that project and scrapped it entirely. So knowing how to fix something like that would've been very helpful for me. The other thing I'm looking for is what arc length and what rod angle allows me to add more material than penetration and what angle and arc length allows me to have more penetration than weld metal? And how can I use that arc blow or force to my advantage when welding to get more or less penetration? There are a lot of questions I have, so hopefully these questions give you guys a lot of video ideas. Thanks :) This would be a video educating some home hobbyists in the unprofessional standpoint where non critical welds would be needed.

I'm not gonna say where or when for obviuos reasons but on some 30" heavy wall adding pups to cut down degree fittings we had bad fits tight n wide n lots of hi-lo. We'll come to find out forget the 5p+ and use a pipeliner 4mm 8010 it will beat that hi/lol with ease and step in the wide stuff look in thinking your gonna have to back weld guess what it was pretty slick did not back weld.we did over 500 welds of this nature pupping out mitered degree fittings in the Fab to send out to the tie in crews.no repairs and yes we were way out of procedure.

Another solid video. Everything I do is pipe related, but it should transition to flat work just the same. Most of the fitters I apprenticed under would slam everything together so it was practically touching. They’d push in a 1/8” 6010 root that most of the time was capped with a second and final fill/cap of 1/8” 7018. Most of the time we’re working a couple hundred feet from our welders so they’d do that so they can run the 6010 at the same amperage as the 7018, and obviously cut an entire pass out of the process. I’m not for or against it as so far as it is a viable process, as long as the welder is aware of the necessity to sink that root deep. We work in standard wall (sch 40) pipe and I personally do all three passes (root, fill, cap) so when I do, I gap 3/32 MAX. I don’t like chasing the keyhole and I don’t like to fiddle with my machine when I’m switching rods. Hot 6010 with a slightly tighter than “normal” gap if I get to pick.

Show! Very good.

I was taught to angle the electrode upwards when welding up, but welding with a gap is a nightmare. I keep blowing holes which I can't seem to fill, instead they get bigger and bigger. I see you angle the rod downwards instead and "drag" the bead through the gap. I've got to try that next time. Using 7016 electrodes, mostly repair work.

Was hoping Bob didn't snap his fingers for a second there.

"thaaat moment" 10:00

9:58 ok Tim the tool man Taylor

Great video Thanks bob

Thanks

Bob Moffett is one cool dude

I agree I don’t like a big gap on open root

Your 2nd plate you did. I did a very very similar weld with the same amount of back face reinforcing and was visually failed for it. I resat my test with the amps dropped right down to 65amos and dug the rod in. Barely any keyhole around the rod but it gave a fairly flat back face. Around 2mm reinforcing. Not being negative. Not at all. But something to maybe aware of.

Texas tig rig would have been my technique on that huge gash.

So, I am welding shooting targets from 1/2' armor plate bits cut from an old M57. All sorts of shapes from 4' squares to 16x3ish Cut by students! HORRIBLE! Gaps range from 0' to 1/2 inch. After watching you I realize that 200 amps AC (all I have) is a bit too much. Thank you. Thumbs up and subscribed

What I do on the bigger gaps < 5/16 is whip up and cover the walls then come down when u the world pool has cooled. or also, get a 7018 take off all the flux and use it as a filler when I come back to the weld pool. just on plates though. never on pipe.

Love when you do stick welding. Thats the only welding accesible to me. But please do some sheet metal or about 0.3-0.7cm metal welding. Maybe some tubing or squares. I always blow a hole. Doesnt matter the electrode,travel speed,amperage it always burns a hole. I would love to see a how to strike an arc video.

Could you do a video on beveling pipe by hand? Different scheds and sizes? Going from plate to pipe, getting a good bevel is harder than making the weld

if they want a dime size gap do you space it with 1/16 rod and let it shrink?

Stitching that 1/8 gap looked like a pain in the ass

Bob,Give it up

What would happen if you were to say cool it down some more, run a little bit on each side then fill the root in, or run it until it gets to hot and stop for one second let it harden some, just a second, and start again and repeat over and over til you finish. What I see happening is the two walls melting down until you have a big hole and it makes sense because of how thin it is down in there where you are welding. When it is together or very close you can jump up on the shoulder of the weld area to place your heat, where it can handle the load that you are placing on it. What do you think?

great video as always...love the Tim Allen grunt by the way 🤣. the plate with the huge gap, could you run two root passes one up one side and then thr other? or would that just be opening the door for slag inclusions and lack or fusion???

We see those big gaps if not bigger daily on the shipyard you just have to bridge it and build off the bridge constantly popping off to let cool and back in for a few stitches or it’ll fall out like it did on you... it sucks

In school they will not allow me anything except 1/8 face 1/8 gap on open root stick. Hopefully I will get to try some other stuff before I finish school.

Молодец! Спасибо вам!

6in schedule 40 6g 6010 root 7018 out would be a great video

I know it's not the approved method but sometimes when people don't know how to use the torch you have to knock off the flux and use the rod like Tig but that's not like on anything pressurized or anything special kinda . nice fill on the Gap =^-^=

I was always told and taught be at 90 degrees to a little push uphill travel....are you pulling it or is that camera angle?

...Good job on a crappy fit.....! I once went for a welding test for a job on offshore oil-rig jackets (bases).... 1-1/2" wall, 7-8 foot diameter 'pipes'.......45 degree V groove with maybe a 3/4-1" wide gap.....running 5/64" NR-232 1% nickel wire.....instructor says..."That's a good fit-up around here......Stockton, Calif...1986...Platform GAIL.....550 foot long under sea....still, to this day.....largest ever built....

the ending is the best hahahah

140amps with a 1/8 fleet?? Turns it into a gouging rod, surely lol. Gonna have a hack with that one at work tomorrow 🤪

Bob College here from Cali Moffett

dear sir I have watched many of your videos and find them very informative do you have a video of cast iron welding ,very interested in seeing one if you do , thank you so much for all that you do.