+TehReelSanic yeah they basically want you to do internships. It's hard for many students because a good majority of internships aren't paid and it's impossible for some to do that, like myself.
The ending is so true....ughhhhhh. I can't tell you how many "entry level" positions I applied to and was turned down because I didn't have enough experience. Yo, employers, don't call it an entry level position if you don't want or have no intention of hiring entry level candidates. *grumbles/cries in corner*
+Rachael Mortician Which is exactly why you try and get experience while in college instead of just thinking that passing your classes and getting that degree will land you a job, everyone going into college should know how hard it is to get a job after, if you didn't plan for yourself, your fault not the employers
That last part is where I've been at for a while Them: We want 3-5 years of experience, minimum Me: And how do I get this experience? Them: Have you tried volunteering involving working 40+ hours a week for no pay? Me: for 3-5 years? Will volunteering get me the experience I need? Them: No, you need an internship for that. That is also unpaid Me: Do you have internships? Them: Nope Me: So... how do I get this experience? Them: ... Me: ... Them: ... Me: Any suggestions? Them: It's always helpful to know someone on the inside Me: How about you? Them: No Me: We've been talking for only 5 minutes and I already want to kill myself. You're practically family. Them: ... Me: I have a minor in Chemisty, maybe I should just make Meth
+Ema Paulauskaitė It's more effective, because they don't need to teach you the specific tasks and save time, besides actual practice probably mean you perform better. It could be fair enough if informal experience count. But I think they should be a little more open minded to teach up employees if it isn't far too much to teach
When you're at university, you're expected to find work during the summer break so when you graduate, you can go into the world of work with experience and knowledge, basically, nobody wants you to relax and enjoy life whilst you're studying.
Eve Yitu Do you have a lot of student debt? I haven't gone to college yet, I better enjoy my freedom while I can. :P Both my parents were lucky enough to have no student debt, hopefully I inherit it.
ENTRY level positon. Requires 3 years previous experience. Wat So sad that it's so true. It's like.. Okay, so what's BEFORE entry? How do I get experience BEFORE entering? I enter minimum wage job, I get trained. But I try to enter something that I trained and learned about and got over 80k in debt to learn and suddenly "Oh, we're sorry, you need experience." And I'm all "How do you expect this to be sustainable if you never train anyone qualified to be trained to do the job but require all candidates to be experienced?"
xmikex902x I explained internships in my comment right above yours to someone else. Feel free to review it for the real reply I'd make to you if that's something you'd like to do. I don't see any real point in repeating myself when it's all right there, you know? Like, I'm often redundant, but even I have a redundancy limit.
Actually you never mentioned anything about internships in your comment, and you only replied once and that was just you being telling him to read your previous comments, you should probably follow your own advice. :P
I may never understand the 3+ years work experience requirement for some entry level jobs, but I guess that's when work study jobs and internships become useful.
+GorgBrownEyes I think they should take time to teach up the employees a little if it isn't actually something that takes years to teach. I work at a small dairy industry and I actually didn't have any former education or work in the same sectors when I started. But it still works out well, as I get taught up in the tasks I'm supposed to perform and then work independently on them. I think it often is practically possible
you don't need to understand it, because its illegal. Entry level means no experience, there are people that will go onto job sites and flag people that do that. So ya. Entry level = just out of college
+Miranda Gardley Ugh same. I'm trying to become an account manager but all the positions I see need 3 years of experience and I only have 1 year... It's not even a hard job to do. Ugh.
+Cait Smith I'm not excited for when I apply for my job. (When I'm older) I'm going to be a heart surgeon and I need so many years of experience. UGHHHHHHH
+Amythyrst Chryseum it's actually a thing in the job market...entry level that requires experience lol can you imagine what the future will be like? unpaid entry level internship that requires a doctorate degree lol
Danny Yang I don't know if you've ever been in a position to hire people, but you've got a stack of resumes for every job and don't have time to hopefully find a Good Will Hunting. Moreover, the recruiter you hired to find people will certainly not send you anyone like this.
I learned that I was the queen of procrastination that I can't survive life without coffee that 99% of the people I work with in group projects are unreliable either they let me do everything or they let me do nothing... no middle ground I learned that sleep is for the weak...
I went a 4 yr school just to end up trying for 2 yr program high school grads can do. I could be making lots more than I do now if I did that after high school and not pay tuition for degree that is stepping stone degree into grad school that I no way can get into least right now. Ah my life 😑
+Nick Rosas hmmm when most jobs that aren't fast food and retail require college education? College is basically a given and most companies will not look at applicants if they do not have that certification.
+BluudyWulf A business man myself I can actually tell you that big top companies look for Experience more than a degree. Because since the market is changing fast, competition is rising and companies don't have time to teach these college graduates how to handle the work. Sure, the degree may help. But like I said. They prefer 4 years of experience than a 4 year degree. And yes you can get that experience without formal education.
Nick Rosas Once I advance through college a little more, they'll set me up with an internship. That's the only way I'd be able to get experience since no one will hire me without a degree. *looks at hundreds of job apps* No there is no way for me to get experience other than that. either job or internship through the school. Because no one is wanting to even look at my profile at all. Working full time and going to school time. No time for anything else as well.
Why would you want to hire someone that doesn't have experience in the field so that you need to train them when you can hire someone that already knows what they are doing?
+Nate Meyer The title "Entry Level Position" means that you don't actually need any particular skill set to perform the job. That's why it's irritating for those of us just entering the workforce. However, what you said is how those doing the hiring justify it to themselves.
Just graduating university in a month and I have none of these things. Darn.... Maybe time management but I think that's shadowed by my panic attacks. The thing that hits me hardest is that "this is an entry level job and we require 3 years experience"..... WHERE DO YOU GET EXPERIENCE WHEN EVERYTHING REQUIRES IT!!! EVEN INTERNSHIPS REQUIRE EXPERIENCE!!!!
@@tanyarawat9700 It does count as experience. My entry level job cited my course work as the material they looked for in a new hire. Now after working with them for a year I've moved on to a new employer full time with benefits in education. It really can work in your favor if you look for opportunities and keep an optimistic outlook. Not to say it was easy. I still had a hard time finding my jobs and moving through the process I just kept moving despite feeling the world was working against me. You never really hear the positive stories enough so im happy to share how it was indeed difficult but if you put the time and effort into networking and researching your field you can make it. You just can't give up because it's hard. You have to deal with a job that gives no benefits and maybe working on contract for a year or so even with a degree and intensive extra curricular experience.
+Em Kay I've been employed by two McDonalds and a pizza place. I applied to this other fast food restaurant, and they said that two years in the fast food industry wasnt good enough. I wasnt experienced enough from McDonalds of all places to man a fry vat. W. T. F.
Jobs now: "We want someone with at least ten years experience". Me: "I am twenty-four, so...yeah". Really? Why not take a chance, and take someone new? Yes you have to train them, but expecting a ton of experience from someone young isn't fair.
I have experience, but not ten+ years. A few years isn't enough for them. They want someone who has already had the job for many years, so they can start straight away, and the company don't have to pay for their training. That's fine, but how are people who have only just gotten out of school/college/university supposed to have many years experience in a job? They are young, they will never have the level of experience what jobs want.
MsAquamonkey Tbh it feels they just want us to come out the womb and go straight into the working field, because that the only way we can come out of college and have ten+ years of experience that they want.
Relatable AF. Good job Buzzfeed. Every single job ever "Hi do you know someone who already works here? No? Ok, well we require 6 years of experience in a related field, or 5 years of unpaid internship work."
+nbbear55 wow 5 years. under entry level, there is no related field.... i still have 2 more years of college. and i still need to do "service learning" and an internship
That was me at 1:15-1:26 whenever the interviewer says the job requires someone with work experience.. I keep my cool, but deep inside I am screaming 'WTH, You made me take a test, passed it, got scheduled for interview then you are just saying to me now (yeah, just now) that you need someone with experience!'
+Simona E. There are profession oriented education lines for certain professions. And I think many people forget that there are many tasks that can be practised at home as well, such as cooking or vehicle mechanics, and I also got some practices in driving a boat (medium sized) at the ocean when I went to boatrips with my dad. I think many people ought to get more experience on home-basis, which is also something parents should take in account
Indigo Speaks I was advised to include my informal experience when writing a resume but I guess that doesn't really matter as much then. One would think that eg how well you can cook a meal at home matters when searching for a chef job, or how much experience you have with repairing cars or bicycles matter for a mechanic job
It's called working min-wage jobs during high school & college & then playing up how important they were (not) on your resume... but yeah, the system is screwed up.
After I graduated, I spent a year trying to find a job. Once I was finally hired, I had to take a temporary position within the company, then scramble to find a full time entry level position not even in my field of study before the temporary job ended. I spent a year there and as soon as I could, got a different job in the company, also entry level but in a different department (so basically it was a lateral move). Finally a job in my field opened up and fortunately I got that. It was a big jump in pay and the wait was definitely worth it. I made a lot of connections and got a well rounded experience within the company that has come in handy.
Chefs want people who have at least 3 years of experience but don't want to be the one giving us that experience. Freaking trolls. #WhatIReallyLearnedInCollege
+Shayan Lahijanian Think of it from the side of sustainable practice. If no one trains and gives experience then eventually there will be no one to do the job because no one will have experience but everyone will be requiring it and no one wants to get experience for free because everything requires money, so it's just easier, and far more profitable, to get jobs that require no experience not in their field in order to at least live. Experience doesn't pay bills or feed people, and everyone expects people learning something, interns etc, to do it without pay, expecting the experience and the learning to be all the pay required. That's BS, what it really amounts to is being cheap. They want someone with the energy of a 20 year old, the experience of a 40 year old, and the wisdom of a 60 year old and want that person to do twenty jobs for half the pay of someone with a single role. The only reason most companies don't go fully automated is because then the administration, that's CEOs, Managers, ETC, wouldn't have anyone to blame other than themselves when their unrealistic quotas aren't met o r things go horribly wrong due to administrative bloat and operational neglect.
If you're a nerd, college is not like this at all. My college experience didn't have parties, drinking, sex, dating, etc. I basically lived in the library studying 10 hours a day, 7 days a week. However, I did get a 4.0 GPA and got into medical school, so I guess it all worked out in the end.
+Tyrie_R Bruh, I texted that all the time, because I was hungry at like 4 am and didn't wanna go to McDonald's by me lonesome. Didn't equate to sex for me at least.
+Thessarabian unless you have bills to pay and working a 40 hour a week internship means you can't study while you're in school and you fail. or, you can't take an UNPAID internship when you graduate because. you know. being an adult. unpaid internships are such bs. at least pay them min wage or don't expect them to work more than 20 hours a week (and if it's 20 hours a week, offer college credit).
+Jennifer D Brady I was in the same boat, but then got bit by the "you need experience" trap afterwards. I ended up with a master's degree working in a job that only required a high school diploma because that was the only experience I had. I wish I had found a way to do one (even if it meant living in my car) because it was the only way to get into my field.
+Jennifer D Brady Find an internship that pays. I worked a full time internship over the summer that paid $20/hr. There are a ton of them out there if you don't major in the liberal arts. #engineering
Paige T They have them for liberal arts majors also. And just an aside, the NPR program Ask Me Another is hiring an intern for the fall, if you're looking for an internship it is paid- and it's in NYC.
Just make sure while you're studying to do some volunteer work and/or part time jobs on the side. I used to tutor and work in playgroups which helped me to get an entry level job in a school right after university.
zakosist Nope, it didn't for me. My grades were fine. I just managed my time and let my employers know when I needed some time off when it got to the hectic season. Though usually I didn't have to do that. If it does affect you during the year, there are still some summer jobs or internships out there. I did those too.
+Leominos Need to meet quota of people interviewed to hire the person you really wanted to hire all along!! Otherwise it just looks like it wasn't an open hiring process at all!
+scarletrobin I once went for an interview for a big company. The pay was insanely high and I thought they might have liked me CV and I got lucky to have an interview. I was in my last year of university at the time. I arrived to the waiting area and met some of the other applicants... I was the youngest by 20 years and the only person who wasn't a Dr or a Prof... They literally used me to fill the quota like you said. I found it funny, and it was good experience, but it sucked.
I think if someone looked me in the eye and seriously said “this is an entry level position and we need three years of experience” I’d lose it. I would absolutely HAVE to ask them what their thought process on that is like.
+Jakedesnake97 And coincidentally, MOST people go to college for the wrong reasons, which is evidenced by the fact that only around a quarter of people work in the field their degree is in.
mattorama I partly disagree with you on this. Some fields simply don't employ a lot of people at the moment and/or are saturated with recent graduates. For example, my cousin was a straight As student with a PhD. in microbiology and has trouble finding a good job in her field as there are close to no opportunities.
+Ruby-Lou except the fact that people that work at buzzfeed need another job to feed themselves, or that is what I read on an article.. i hope it's false!
I learned that I could sleep bolt upright without snoring in class, but in my dormroom I turned into a limp rag that snored as loud as a full-grown bison.
+callmenoone I think in some fields one could get the experience at home, like if you wanted to be a chef you could practise cooking at home, not sure if employers would take that as serious experience though... There are also some very profession oriented education lines if you know what education you want
My sis took a month long college class. When she came back she said the lectures were boring but she did learn how to take naps in really strange places/ positions.