@@tenzintsenpey5274 CHAOSberg is right. LPL would rather give them feedback that would actually help than just play along. Of course, if a manufacturer really likes getting slammed, all they need to do is send him a lock that failed to fix what LPL had already warned them about.
@@joblessalex Shill? He demonstrated that a skilled picker can get through it quickly, and said as such in the video. Acknowledging that the lock has enough security features that it's better than the incredibly low industry standard isn't the same as shilling the lock.
Simple formula for getting ”ok” mark: 1. No over lifting of pins, 2. Five or more pins, 3. As many pins as chambers, 4. Ok tolerances, 5. No misleading promises on package, 6. No shimming, 7. Protected actuator, 8. Reasonable shackle width/protection, 9. Some security pins. Extra points for replaceable core and paracentric key way. Did I miss something? It’s not like there are any secrets, it’s just that so many manufacturers are cutting corners.
They've done it in the past. He (and BosnianBill) made suggestions on their designs and they listened and improved their locks. Really great company making a solid lock that your normal exploits, raking, and bitch-picking won't get open.
Paclock does a great job with their cylinders. They are a big part of the locksport community, they listen to our feedback and make adjustments accordingly, like comb pick attacks and having good tolerances with good security pins. They're an absolute blast to pick, and I'd use them over any other standard pin tumbler padlock out there. They're just an overall great company who takes pride in their product, and it's lovely to see.
0/10 ... doesn't even close properly 1/10 ... opens while lifting it / MasterLock default 2/10 ... short pull on the shackle / can be opened using 3 methods 3/10 ... shake it, baby! / red bull method / 2 methods work 4/10 ... hammer stroke from the right direction / screwdriver suffices 5/10 ... rake attack / strong magnet 6/10 ... classic picking 2min 9/10 ... it takes LPL 2min 10/10 ... LPL invents new tool for it 11/10 ... RAMJET BABY! 12/10 ... oxygen lance / thermite / aqua regia / mercury attack
One thing! Just one thing! Please tell IT to me: WHY tf do I have so many fans even though no RU-vidr is unprettier than I am? WORLDWIDE!!!! WHY??? Tell me, dear ot
Thank you, this is a great compliment indeed! For me, though, I feel like it's more that we'd like to know if we're not hitting the mark. We've missed in the past, and we make corrections. So always happy to see our products get a review like this, but if we didn't we'd find a way to fix whatever our valued locksport community might find.
@@paclockpres.9805 There's honestly so much you can do. Outside of just adding more of those pins that is. If you want, double them. It'll really mess with LPL.
@@haroerhaktak2613 We actually have a 7-pin cylinder we use for lock-out, tag-out. And we are kind of turning that cylinder into our "PRO" series. But getting any longer than 7-pins makes the key kind of weak and difficult to insert all the way into the core.
well done to Paclock for consistently being one of onlya few companies brave enough to send their newest products to LPL for testing. Ity evidences confidence in the capablity of their product and their willingness to fix vulnerabilities.
Hahahaha! Just another day at PACLOCK actually... today's focus is on more applications for the camping/RV/trucking world and, well, a disc detainer core made 100% in the USA. But you didn't hear it from me.
Meanwhile at PacLock's Headquarters: "Ok people we've made it this far. We need to step this up a notch! I want the next generation on the wall in two months"
@@craigcrissman4651 Yes sir... and whatever flaws/insecurities that Abloy might have, we'll likely inherit to start. The goal right now is "equal quality" because we have a government contract for the military. Hit that bar first, then see where we go. You can bet BB & LPL will get hands on once we have some ready...
He did do a video in his home locks actually and if you pick them the sieze up until they are reassembled, so actually he should be the most afraid of that
@@gideon7212 however he also stated that it is possible to avoid having the lock seize up like that. Besides... this is LPL. The most secure door in the world is a piece of plywood screwed over a doorway with his arch nemesis the PHILIPS SCREW! Muahahaha. Even though the screws take little to no skill to remove it still is quite annoying to use a tensioner to spin it 10-15 times, and then when the first screw is removed there would be 30 more after it. I think LPL would have to admit defeat on that one
no the ultimate thing to stop the Lockpicking Lawyer is just an ungodly amount of Packaging on the door ..though after he finally gets through it after 10 hours the door is picked in 2 seconds.
Dear Mr.LPL, Popular Mechanics just put an article out about how hackers can “listen” and then pick a lock. Could you see what exactly they’re talking about and demonstrate (or debunk) the method they talk about? Thanks
It's a very advanced technology that would only be useful if you want a key so you can enter multiple times easily And it can't be time sensitive, since the whole key needs to be designed and produced For advanced lockpickers, regular picking is way easier I also wonder if the device can detect spools and security pins that make sound as well and filter them out
Meanwhile back at paclock headquarters... Sir we passed the 20 second mark and still holding, probability of a recommendation seems high. CEO, "put the champagne on standby, and await my conformation, this is not a drill."
I both respect and admire paclock, they not only send their locks to a security professional to get tested, they also get good advertising, and a word of good faith from LPL himself
@@sukhoi1744 actually I misspoke I meant to say it always amazes me how easy it is for him I combined two different thoughts into one LOL I've edited my comment.
@@RaphYkun actually I pick locks I watched his channel for pure entertainment and knowledge I misspoke in my comment I was thinking it never amazes me how easy the locks are to pick for this man but my brain decided to say something else.
I mostly enjoy comments like 'another click out of six, we just dropped into a nice deep false set', indicating that he has no problem at all, but many lock pickers would already get into trouble by now and the lock is probably above average quality.
@@NutjobwithaMachete You can, just give us a call or email us for now. We have great shipping rates, maybe even free, into Canada. Plus, we're trialing putting our products into Amazon's Canadian fulfillment centers right now. We want to give our test locks a few weeks to make sure we understand all that happens by doing this. Presuming that all goes well, we already have the project plans in place to push all of our UCS product lines into their fulfillment centers.
Glad to see the continued relationship with Paclock. It shows that they both take pride in their product and want to listen to consumer professionals on how to improve their products. Curious to see where this fits on the skateboard
Would love to see one picked while mounted on a vehicle, to see if it takes any longer due to the hindrance of trying to tension it in possibly cramped quarters.
I was thinking the same thing. Defeating the lock itself in ideal conditions shouldn't be too surprising. But there is an extra layer of security that comes from having to do it with the lock deployed in less than ideal circumstances, while remaining undetected. Less of an issue for locks you can pick as quickly as using a key, but definitely in play for something like this.
I suspect that LPL can pick many locks blindfolded while wearing headphones playing loud music so he can't hear the clicks. Thus things that would deter most criminals, won't significantly slow him down.
Thanks to you, dear LPL, i am now forever damaged… Am currently watching the show Dexter. There was a scene where one character _supposedly_ picked a lock. I could tell immediately that he didn't even pretend to do convincing-looking picking and the door must've been opened from the inside. And then there was another scene where for personal safety reasons a door lock got changed. And my brain immediately went: »This is the LPL and what i have for you today is the lock to Rita's house. Nice click one one, two's binding, nothing on three,…« Burst out laughing and had to explain myself to my beloved.
@@NeoTechni I heard, and i'm excited! We're currently mid season 2, and the pacing is so fast and steady that i fail to imagine how the writers managed to make that 9.
Good job PacLock for putting thought and effort into your product! You always get compliments from LPL, and for people like me who know next to nothing about locks, that's enough to know how good they are.
Literally just bought this on Monday and received it yesterday. I am extremely impressed with their product and their customer service. Their is an issue with their Amazon store but I was able to buy direct from them and they where very very nice and helpful on the phone.
LPL always makes it look easy. I just watched BosnianBill take over 12 minutes to pick this lock and he is a MASTER lockpicker and security bypass expert; Expert, capitol E. Thus, I'm fairly confident I would probably be unable to open this in any amount of time, forget real world conditions.....and if I was able to, I highly doubt I could consistently do so in, again, any amount of time..... This is a quality product. .
Always love the content, I’ve bought a puzzle and practice lock along with some high quality picks and inserts and I’ve been loving the sport of lockpicking and honing in my skill. Thank you very much for introducing me to the awesome world of locks and picking, looking forward to seeing more great content, keep up the great work! :)
Greg, David, and the team at Paclock are amazing. I have switched all of my locks over to Paclock and they are exceptionally well made and the user rekeyable cores are sweet.
You know it's good when he actually has to pick it for real. Not shake it or shim it or use a magnet or look at it funny holding a cut up soda can. No jigglers, rakes, or combs. Buckles down and single pin picks it..
It would be amazing if you could make a video explaining "false set" and show us what is happening on the inside of the lock. Your way of explaining is so much better than most RU-vidrs and I am always happy to see new videos!
LPL secretly lost his key and he just got used to lockpicking his door open, and became a lawyer so he can explain himself out of trouble every time when busted.
@@CarolinaGunGuy Heh, I doubt it. Deviant wouldn't be buds with the guy if that was the case. They did send him a pretty cool PacLock skateboard made out of locks at one point. He got some friends (skateboarders from another channel) to try riding it. They broke the poor thing.
All of his videos sound exactly the same so let me help you guys out today. Translation: This is a lock he actually recommends so save this video and save this lock name and number because it's one of the few you can actually buy and use in the future.
I can't believe how much praise he gives Paclock. "This will require a reasonably skilled picker" "The dust cover is highly necessary" "We just dropped into a nice deep false set" "Still binding" "I was able to open it reasonably quickly" "This may be a lock you consider" Dang, LPP! Stop gushing your true feelings for this lock. Gross.
Honestly, I'll support Paclock if only because they're willing to send you their products to test online. What other company is willing to humiliate themselves like that in order to better their product?
Most major lock manufacturers probably have a LPL team or at least one analyst who keep track of his latest videos with the notification turned on like the rest of us.
Favorite part of watching these videos late is looking at the comments section. And on this one in particular, seeing Paclock commenting and holding a small debate about how viable certain things are like adding more pins or using dimple vs disk detainer.
just imagine him breaking into your house going "click on one... two is binding, nice click there... three feels like its in a false gate... nice click out of four" I mean that would be terrifying
While they obviously sent it to LPL in order to increase the visibility of their product, it was still quite a high risk and required some degree of confidence. That said, this was a fairy fast pick non the less. He simply didn't destroy it like some others. It's the difference between 1 and 2.
When you first said "ja-KHEEM-ah" at 0:22 I was struggling for a minute to figure out what the heck you were talking about. Then I recall that BB made the same error in pronunciation. Yakima is pronounced "YAK-ah-mah", not "ja-KHEEM-ah". I may live on the wet side of Washington, but do go to Yakima for the wineries or hiking often enough. Lots of folks can't pronounce Northwest Native names - no biggie. Try Sequim, Puyallup, or even that seafood Geoduck. And after watching BosnianBill struggle on this lock for 12 minutes, I'm convinced. If only I could find one, I'd buy it...we have a nice, new Kuat bike rack I'd like to keep on the back of the car and I simply don't trust the hitch pin lock they included with it. If you send me this one, I'll send you the Kuat "factory" hitch pin lock and you can compare and contrast this one to what they send with a $750 bike rack. :-)
I like it how they only wanted to prove that it wasn't the horrible-Masterlock-quality, and can't be raked. I guess that means that they're better than average.
I was waiting for this lock, when paclock introduced it I was ready to buy one as I have a few of their locks already. But This lock has the same weakness as any hitch lock. Brute force attack. Take a 3lb china freight sledge , remove that spring clip and wack it on the side. The body will rest against the hitch the pin will pop out. The only way I would consider one of these is IF the safety clip was on the inside between body and lock and the hitch pin was sitting inside the lock body in a blind hole with a steel pin inserted from other side to prevent drilling. Right now because of LPL I have just welded nuts to the bolts for all my hitch as they don't come off to often. I love paclock and will getting a few more padlocks keyed to my existing key, this one I am on fence.
I think there's no better sign of either incompetence or confidence from a company than to send LPL a lock. This is definitely confidence, and I really appreciate a company that is willing to put themselves out there for honest reviews. If this channel has taught me nothing, it's that every single lock is vulnerable, it's just a question of how vulnerable. Any idiot can comb pick a lock, but there's no shame in LPL single pin picking your product!
6 pins. Spools and serrated. Reasonable tolerances and the Schlage key profile. Yup. That will practically leave destructive entry as the only probable attack, as even LPL takes longer to pick it than to open it with a good cordless angle grinder.
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