If you look at video 548, posted ~2 years after this one, he was able to pick an Abus lock with the plus core. I'd love to see what he'd do now with 2 more years of experience past that.
A 20/70 on a hardened steel hasp screwed into rotted wood isn’t a lock, but a handle. I could put my foot up there, and then *Yank*, and there goes the corner of the shed.
I was cleaning my car out the other day at a local car wash. Just out of curiosity, I looked to see what padlocks they had on their vacuums to lock up the change.. and they were ALL Abus Diskus 20/70's. Needless to say, I was pretty impressed!
The worst part about the 28/70 is there are only 14 different keys that fit all of them, and they're the most used lock in the car wash industry. The Master lock may be easy to pick but at least it has 10,000 possible keys.
I find it hilarious that Walmart only carries Master, Brinks and their own HT locks, but if you look at the propane tank racks and most other padlocks they're using, it's all Abus.
"im not even adept at disc detainer locks" 5 years later: "and now with the tool bosnianbill and i made ill pick this lock in 5 secs" watching older videos is fun to see how far LPL came its wild to something take such a huge 180
Disc types are already harder to cut. At this point, the weak link is likely the hasp on the door. The harder they have to work, the more likely they are to take five steps to either side and steal somebody else's stuff instead.
I got the 20/70 based on the fact that "i won't be picking open this lock because i can't" from LPL i used it to secure a shipping container moving across the country.. all arived safe and sound :) TY LPL
Well, this is a very old video. He has picked thousands more locks and gained knowledge and skill along the way since then. I expect he would have less trouble with it today, 5 years after making this video. But yeah, it was uncommon to hear him say that.
After I picked the first lock I ever tried - a chinese disc lock sold by the self-storage place, in ~20 seconds, with zero experience - I bought the 20/70 Abus. Nice to see its value confirmed. Thanks for these great videos.
I picked my first lock today after watching many of your videos. The lock was the same as the cheap Chinese one in this video. I have to start somewhere. Thanks for all the awesome content
Hi The Lockpicking Lawyer, I just wanted to thank you for getting me interested in lock picking, I just bought my first set of picks and tention wrenches and a see through padlock, had so much fun picking it! Yet again thankyou! 😊
Thanks for this video! I will now be returning my "High Security" Master disc and buying the Abus 20/70. It's a shame none of the major retailers in the USA sell actual decent pick resistant pad locks.
You haven't learned? Nothing here is ever about quality. That's why an entire bridge collapses once it gets hit by a ship, that's why Boeing makes such bad airlines, that's why our streets have potholes, etc etc
I'm a former locksmith and our local storage units used discus. To save time we just used the old "rotary pick". (Cordless drill through the shear line). If the lock was on backward, we used a 120 v angle grinder with an inverter in the van. :-)
@stephanieellison7834 How do you find this Abus 20/70 Lock with the security core? It never says anything online about the security core he specifically mentions
It does operate very smoothly. The cylinder on those is so glass-smooth, opening and closing it is as satisfying as popping bubble wrap. You can actually catch yourself standing there operating it a few times just to enjoy the feel and sound. What a beautiful cylinder.
Such a nice video. Sad to see these cheap Chinese disk locks-which I have now tossed as a result of your video-opened within seconds. I bought an Abus 20/70 KD (keyed different), and with the Abus hasp it provides a LOT of protection for a garage. Excellent lock. Then, I bought three 20/70 KA (heyed alike).. Out of the box, one has chunks of the black material (paint?) that have apparently fallen of the shackle. Maybe it's paint, but I originally thought it might be some sort of dark metal. I'll be sending it back to Abus if they confirm the shackle may be compromised. Also, that locks sticks, so if its paint that fell off inside, it may be interfering with the smooth opening. One thing to note for those who buy, however. I store items at an Extra Space store facility (don't care for their management). If you don't want to use their standard cylinder lock, they give you a strong red plate that allows you to install your own lock. Unfortunately, the 20/70 is about a millimeter (maybe less) too large to fit through the hole on the door plate. Very disappointing, since I bought three of them. I'm considering trying to enlarge the hole in the plate slightly with a drill bit, in order for it to accommodate the 20'70, but it looks like very hard material. And sadly, the next lock down, the 25/70 may fit, but is not •nearly• as secure as the 20/70. Sorry to be long-winded. Just adding my two cents. Thanks for your video, and any advice you may have.
It's a whole different ballgame when that same lock is on a storage shed facing away. And pouring down rain with a small crowd standing behind you looking over your shoulder.
$40 for the Abus 20/70 is a lot less expensive than $140 for a Bowley. Plus, if the cretin beats on it after failing to pick it, it is less of an issue than a beaten-up Bowley. THANK YOU for this informative video!
I have been watching your videos for a long time and enjoyed them. You got me interested in trying to learn this craft. It is at this point I realize that as far as using your videos to try to learn isn't really that great. So I have to say thank you for getting me interested but I really wish you explained what you were doing more. However I get that you aren't gonna change any type of format just bc one person in your comments "complained" have a great day. Thank you again but it's time I move on to more descriptive channels
I ordered an Abus 20/70 and then realized I had better check with Lock Picking Lawyer. After this video, I ordered a second one. LPL- The most trusted name in locks.
I recently bought a Master Lock "Magnum" disk lock and was able to open it with _every_ pick variation I have (except wafer picks) including zipping it with a tension wrench. The funniest was when I used a snowman pick.
I think the most surprised I have been on RU-vid was the part in this video when you said you couldn’t pick the last lock. Kept waiting for Rick Astley to pop out. 😂
That last lock was given to me by a friend and I could never pick it open. One day while waiting for a car key to be programmed at the BMW place, I had finished a Popsicle and used the wetish stick on the lock. I was just listening to the radio when all the sudden the lock opened. Within an hour, I had opened the lock 20 times. :)
I have one of the Master locks on my storage unit. I knew they weren't great but didn't realize they were that easy to pick. I will have to consider getting a better lock sometime. There's nothing of super high value in the unit anyway. The problem is that it's hard to find anything better than Master Locks (though I know they aren't really that good) in stores. Years ago I had to get into another storage unit I had that was secured with a disc lock (probably a Master Lock as well) but I had lost the keys. I borrowed an electric angle grinder from the rental office and I had the lock cut off in a few minutes.
Yup, those Master 40's are not very hard to open. The Abus 20/70 would be an excellent option. As for the grinder, there's really no defense against that other than supervision.
I've been binge-watching my way through your channel (new subscriber), and I wonder if you'd do a series on locks you can't yet open, like Bill has? Keep up the good work.
A friend of mine has one of those disk pad locks. He used to use it with a chain on his motorcycle. I shocked the hell out of him one day when I unlocked it using a home made tension bar and pick while we having a couple of beers.
HI @LockPickingLawyer, thank you sharing with us your exploits. I've got a question after you and BosnianBill co-developed the disc detainer pick in 2019 or so, were you able to revisit the Abus Diskus 20/70 with Plus core and pick it successfully using the pick-tool you co-developed?
+de Ronchopathe The 20/70 has 8 discs (2 guide discs, and 6 actual "key discs"). The front anti-drill plate is also a disc. The 20/80 has 2 guide discs, and 6 actual key discs as well, but it also has 2 anti-drill plate discs on the front as well. (I have a 20/80.)
😊 awesome I have never picked a lock or even held lock picking tools until today I purchased a professional lock picking set for just over a $100 bucks and found a master lock similar to one of the ones you show and in about 5 minutes I picked that lock open, I have a ridiculous amount of picking tools that i have no idea which is used for what I didn't have a tension bar exactly like yours so L shaped pick as tension bar and it worked so im assuming that's what that is if it's not please tell me what it would be used for, for me it's now a tension bar lol
I managed to get into one of the abus disclocks a couple years ago with some WISH picks. I had to use a hell of a lot of tension just to get the pins to bind though
Never had a disc padlock so I got one from Biltema a store that sell cheap car parts and more for 8$. It was a 70mm looked like the one on bottom left no name only said F305, 1000 and the size 70mm, 2 3/4" on back. It had a very small keyway and 5 pins and thought not the best to practice on but what the heck. It was one of those locks that would not stay closed opened it with all 8 of my .015 picks from my Praxis set just had to put them in and wiggle up and down a few times and it was open lol.
Great video and nice picking. I also consider disc detainer locks to be very good. Less likely to get picked (special tool needed and not very common to be picked) and robust as no springs are involved. Again: Very much enjoyed watching.
+Potti314 Thanks, and definitely agree on the disc detainer locks. Someday I'll invest the time, but there's too many others on the "to do" list before then.
My boss locks up about $30,000 worth of tools in his tool trailer using that same master lock. He's had a trailer stolen in the past but they literally cut off the part that attaches to the hitch along with the hitch lock and welded a new one to the trailer and drove off with it as if it belonged to them.
Very nice video, great picking. Disc padlocks are rare here, so people believe even more that they are super secure. But strangely the few I saw around were noname (with exceptions of one abus). It's never a good sign when manufacturers omitted to put their logo on product.
You are the only locksmith I respect on this because you are the only one that admitted there was a lock you were unable to pick. I intend to buy the 20/70 as one of the two locks I will use to lock my bike (which is very dear to me). The other is the Abus combo 190cs/60 have you tried that one? I have asked the other youtube guys and none has ever tried it, or responded to me. Thank you.
when i see these locks, i always need to think about my dad, because he used to use them. i still have some he used and they works still fine for over 20 years.
Love your channel dude. I'm in South Africa and here crime is on another level, while having a good lock of things is certainly good the usual method of robbery usually involves shooting the victims.
In all recent LPL videos featuring disc detainer locks he picks them pretty easily using the special tool that he and Bosnian Bill designed and made. I wonder if he ever managed to pick them the old-fashioned way? He has had 3 1/2 years to figure them out, and I bet that he probably would manage them now.
LPL, if a key can open it, then you can open it. You may not have the correct tool right now, but if you wanted to take the time to open it, I believe you could open any lock. Picking I have watched you open some locks that I never even thought possible to open, yet you find a way. My opinion, thanks
I have got one from my mother, she use these to secure her barn with horses inside. That disc padlock has only three pins and i can pick it in seconds and i have beginn picking locks only 2 weeks ago xD its really funny with this lock xD
I bought the master lock at my local exchange; it actually feels easier to rake the pins and open it than to use the key (the key gets stuck a little bit). I maybe have a couple hours of experience picking locks.
Surprised how easy the first two were,I have only experienced the standard(3) Abus and found it surprisingly easy. Never seen the DD Abus before but unless it's like the granit I would think it would be quite straight forward.🤔🤔 Nice vid as always sir😘😘👍🔓🔓🔓🍻
I had the cheaper Abus disk lock on a storage unit that I tried opening following an ice storm. The key went in but broke off easily when turning it. Rats. So I used a hacksaw blade to cut across the face of the lock. Less than a couple of minutes later, the lock was off.
I noticed something while watching you pick these locks. If they were in use you would not be able to hold them the way you are in the video. If they were in use you would be picking in the downward direction which adds a level of unfamiliarity to the experience. Have/would you try this and share your thoughts? Thanks, I learn a lot watching you.
I bought an Abus 20/70 with the Plus core. I was surprised to see very little bidding on the key. Is this a problem? Should I buy another and hope to get a more varied key?
+waddac2 Thanks. Yes, the tension tool I use on the third lock is one of the Peterson flat five. I don't use them much unless that's all that fits in the keyway. Most are too bendy for my liking.
+LockPickingLawyer Yes I know what you mean regarding others being too bendy as on may locks they can keep dropping pins and you cannot control counter rotation as accurately.
I was disappointed in myself, tasked yesterday to remove two Masterlock No.40 locks, which I was unable to pick. Granted, both were locked in place beneath shackle shields, not leaving much room to work, and didn't have the luxury of holding the locks in my hand to pick, but still, thought I'd have an easy task. Felt defeated, having to resort to drilling them out.
They shouldn't scare you unless it's an old crusty lock hanging on a hasp that's been there a year," for some reason", the pins don't respond and set like they would in a new lock. Locksport is awesome and that's why I taught myself how to do this, with LPL'S help but I wish he had more videos on picking locks that have been in service for while. Because they are vastly different in my experience.
Great video, is the 20/70 more difficult to cut and is the shield thicker than the other ones? I saw a video where an unknown brand disc lock is being cut using a bolt cutter right through the shield.
Just to add , I am adding a second dead bolt on the left side of this metal door, because the bolt only goes into the wood 2x10 frame 1 inch , the door flexes enough if I pull on the left the dead bolt pin will come out of the hole. There is a 1 inch wide rubber seal each side that allows this to happen . If there were no seal then it would not be possible.
I bought a discus padlock from The Yorkshire Trading Company that was branded as 'Dekton' for £3.99 and I picked it open in seconds from opening the packaging, similar to the first one in this video
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