2012 Dodge Grand Caravan Fuel Pump Relay Repair 

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Do you have a diagram of how you install the wires help me please

I'm going to try thier relay kit. "TIPM Plug-In Relay System".

But, but, but... that guy who invented the bypass is an engineer! 🙄 Just buy a Bosch brand SPST relay kit. It brings much more length of wire to play with. You know it's the right type because it only has 4 wires. I personally remove the TIPM completely. When I'm doing electrical, I like give myself wide berth to work with. The relay I mount to the fender apron, on the bracket where the hood ajar switch is located. I don't like the location the Mopar kit uses. It puts that relay in an area where it gets pelted by the elements and also can get wet. On the fender apron, it's far away from the rad support and debris.

Thanks for the info!

I found the part on Amazon! Got to admit it feels pretty good when someone uses screen grabs from my video to sell parts. Just wish I was pulling commission on it, lol.

Hey sorry I know it’s been a year, but what’s the pink wire he taps into? Thanks I’m advance.

If you have power at the pump double check and make sure you have ground on the ground circuit for the fuel pump not the ground circuit for the gauge I don’t have a wiring diagram to tell you which wires are which. At the pump plug-in you should have one wire that has power all the time that is the power to the sending unit for the fuel gauge one wire that has power when the key is cycled on during the prime cycle of the pump and that is the pump positive wire. If you are checking a wire that has power all the time and not for the first 5 to 10 seconds after the key is turned on you’re probably looking at the power wire for the fuel sending unit. I hope this helps I don’t happen to have wiring diagrams handy for that vehicle to be able to tell you what color wires you need to look at for the actual pump power and ground.

MAK’s TIPM rebuilders 818-798-5558

Easy to make a relay harness and add a fuse to it..

Sport Durst Chrysler in Durham NC had a couple of them. Good luck.

Yes, that is very possible.

Was it a failed fuel pump?

@@DanielOrtiz-uf6yb no. I have a feeling that it is one of the sensors starting to go bad, or there is a leak somewhere that is throwing a code. hopfully this spring Ill route out the problem. The relay repair did what it said it does. my fuel pump starts up and keeps on until I turn the key off and open the door.

" blue gills and tommy cods"

If it is the grand caravan check with your dealer, it may be covered by the original recall. If not this would probably be the fox if yo are not getting power to the fuel pump.

whine might be your alternator

That’s not a surprise. They gave me some trouble on the last one that I ordered, but I finally managed to talk the parts guy in to sending one out to me. The TIPM in all of the vehicles is the same. There never was a recall on the caravan/town and country for what reason I don’t know. You may try a different dealer if there is one in your area and see if they will sell it to you.

@@1975mabrown discontinued now

On these particular vehicles MOPAR lists the relay as a non serviceable part of the TIPM. I'm not willing to risk the potential implications of dissecting a customers TIPM to replace an internal relay that I may not be able to remove from the circuit board, and potentially have to spend several hundred dollars on a new TIPM when for about $130 I can wire in the relay and send them down the road. Labor is the most expensive part of this job and it would also potentially be more expensive to pull the TIPM out and apart to get to the relay just from the time spent. I by no means am an electronics expert, and am not well versed on working on circuit boards. This simply comes down to a risk vs reward, and by wiring in an external relay if it fails again it has now become a 5 minute repair.

Fuel pump was running intermittently, checked my outgoing power from the relay and found I had no power when the pump wasn’t running but had voltage to lock the relay in. Determined that the relay was not engaging when the pcm wanted it to. I have seen this scenario multiple times, and after doing a lot of diagnostic work on the first one I now just check relay operation first before I even check out the fuel pump. They recalled the Jeep Grand Cherokees, and Durango’s for this problem, and the Caravans and Town and Country use the same TIPM.

Thank you , great video 👍🏻

@Soul Seaker How you find out that you have a problem with the relay???

@@Donoprez My van has symptoms of the same problem but im hooking up a computer this weekend,, I suspect the master cylinder pump is gone and also the engine light comes on.. along with sputtering every now and then . Im going through the process of elimination first..Fuel filter .. Master cylinder and so on..Id like to replace the fuse assembly in advance just to have it done.. I found a guy on Ebay in the US who repairs them..

@@Home-ed6zg thanks for your quick response!!! I have a 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan amd today for the first time I hear a homming noise coming from the rear part of the van, actually from the gas thank. Like if the gas pump was still running, this was with the engine off!!!

@@Donoprez Yep all kinds of strange things happen when the relay gives out, I have a hand held computer I purchased a few years ago im hooking it up tomorrow to check the errors..

@@Home-ed6zg thanks again and good luck with your car!!!

The relay is for the constant high current draw that is required to run the pump. A low current circuit from the computer turns the relay on, but that circuit in the computer cannot handle the amp draw of the pump.

The issue you have found is that your relay it sounds like is stuck on. the FUEL/DSL LIFT PUMP is for the power to the fuel pump itself, while the FUEL PUMP RLY is the power feed to the fuel pump relay. If the relay was operating properly you could pull the fuel pump rly fuse and it would shut the fuel pump down as well by cutting power to the relay, but it sounds like you are having problems with your fuel pump running all the time even when the key is turned off? If that is the case I believe that your fuel pump relay in the TIPM is shorted and that is why you can pull the fuse for the relay, but nothing changes. Installing the external relay shown in the video should solve your problem. I hope this helps, and thank you again for watching, and contributing the link to the PDF for the instlation instructions.

They have yet to recall the Dodge Caravan’s for that, and they probably never will. Why I don’t know, but it’s absolutely a pain in the butt. I can’t even get that kit anymore without having a Vin number that was affected by the recall. So I have started building my own with relays from the part store.

@@JosephVollmar fcking Dodge just wants our money I got problem's with my caravan after I fix it I Will most likely get rid of it and no more Dodge product's for me

It may have, I would check around the underhood fuse block (GEM) to see if there is an external relay mounted there.

Pm me I can probably help you out , I actually doing this also

What to use mmnow im having the same problem and part is no longer available

@@victorjimenez9403 I did get my fixed , I found online a small relay board for $65.00.. I pulled 2 fuses and this small board just went into the fuse slots and the 2 fuses went back on the little board . And have never had a problem again

​@victorjimenez9403 can you help me out please with the universal wiring relay. Thanks

Thank you so much

I habe exact this Problem... How did your solv it? Tks

You can no longer get that kit from Chrysler unless you have the vin of a recalled vehicle. You can buy a relay from the auto parts store and wire it in and build your own kit for less money than you can buy this kit for. On a standard relay pins 85&86 are your trigger and ground, and 87&30 are your load. Just remember the pcm always uses a ground to trigger the relay, so pin 85 needs to go to key on power, then 86 goes to the wire from the pcm. Then 87 & 30 are your fused power in and your power out to your fuel pump. Make sure you buy a relay rated for 30 amps or more that way you don’t have to worry about burning it up with the draw from the fuel pump. When you pull from your 12v power to feed the fuel pump relay you need a fuse link and a fuse to match the amperage of your factory fuel pump fuse.

Bloomsdale, MO.

CBWP RO91 AA-001 search it on Amazon and you will find it.

Google “Part 68269523AD mopar” I just found it for about $66 I will order once I can find a mechanic to fix. I have a 2011 Caravan. I called Chrysler and this is the part they said I need. Of course they recommend buying it from them for $148 as “that’s what I would do!” But I’m on a budget and that’s NOT what I’m gonna do! 😊 Best of luck to us all!🤞

I ordered it through the local dodge dealer, but I had to order by part number. Some dealers are not wanting to sell it that way though because they have gotten wise to the repair on the Caravan/Townn and Country models. I have heard you can find it online though.

This part was remplaced by CBWPR091AB

CBWPR091AA discontinued so you have to shop around.

CBWP R091 AA is the part number from the packaging. I will try to find the ticket tomorrow and double check that number. you may not be able to find it because I believe it is an internal FCA repair kit. I found out about it while picking the brain of a Chrysler teck the first time that I ran in to this issue. He told me that there was a recall for this issue for the Grand Cherokees and Durangos, and although the Caravan/town and country vehicles use the same TIPM they were never recalled. He also set me up with the repair kit and the instructions. The last one that I ordered the parts guy was trying to figure out how I knew about this kit. I had to request it as the recall part for the Grand Cherokee or Durango, because they do not list it in their system for the Caravan. He was also very reluctant to sell it to me as I was not using it on the intended vehicle and I had to convince him that I had done this before and it would work. I hope this helps, and thank you for checking out the video.

my local deal wouldnt sell my the kit at all ........so i bought a relay from vertical visions that has to be soldered on the board

www.verticalvisions.com/tipm-fuel-relay-solutions.html There are several options here specifically for this.

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