2017 Cadillac CTS-V vs. 2016 Lexus GS F - Redline: Comparison 

It will.hold value better than Cadillac and last longer so more for ur money

@@issavibez394 If you buy a car considering how well it’s holds “value” you aren’t in the demographic for this vehicle.

@@victorkenarsy3024dumbass comment

The Lexus bodystyle is from 2012.

No cts-v keeps its value much better

Scott Watkins I agree. The CTS kind of seems better than the GS.

Including reliability? Lol

I will take reliability over the majority of American made cars... 🤷🏽‍♂️ my beliefs why most of the V8s have short ownership times... the constant stops to refuel if you are a heavy footed driver 😏

@@davedave2941 ... um, the GS-F has a V8. Typical Yoda nutswinger. Clueless.

Yous bout to pay a lot for maintenance

i mean yea but Cadillac is decent it wont break down

@@rks-bh6tb it will

justin bouche jsuxdgdha

lol something is weird , where is your stalker xD ?

Mo Lo HAHAHAHA, you mean bigbitch?

justin bouche big truck is your stalker too?!? 😳

Big bitch 275 something LOL he has been following me for the past 8 months straight 30 notifications every day from this guy

JF CN my heart says CTS v or RT Scat Pack, but my wallet says Lexus.

Even tho caddy has more power the Lexus is 4 secs behind it

You need a check up from your neck up. People flip out when you pick them up in a Cadillac. Uber driver here. I never got so MANY business cards dropped on me, it was nuts.

@@w41duvernay Temporary stardom.

Vlad B no I would leave a Lexus. I would only have it for fun. And adrenaline. But I would have the Cadillac for cruising along California and putting the power down when I need it. I swear nothing can’t compare to Cadillac because. If it’s not a Cadillac. Then it’s not luxury.

*mercedes

Lexus all the way

leasing is for losers

@@vegasbab.y3740 Cadillac is a piece of shit ..

I own BMW 4series now, owned Lexus GS before. I can say that, "Lexus has the reliability absolutely".

Dmitriy Nanaziashvili I know someone with a 2014 CTS 3.6 and the interior has not one rattle it's a rock solid car and it now has almost 30k on it. & it has only had cue software issues early on.

I'm on my second CUE and mine is 2013. I still have the radio stop working randomly, it freezes, and when it is cold it takes 20+ seconds to change stations as it loads. My neighbor has the cadillac SUV 2013 and said he has rattling all throughout the car and will not get another one also. Another person I went boating with in the summer said her parents cadillac is on second cue system also. Common problem...

clearly lexus has been #1 for 16 years with best reliability in industry. caddy comes in somewhere in the 20s

Dmitriy Nanaziashvili I own a 15 is350 and my gf owns a 2010 mini cooper

Glad to hear you can equally appreciate the Cadillac for what it is, the Lexus gave it a hell of a fight though and we weren't kidding when we said we liked many aspects of the GS F over the CTS-V. You honestly can't go wrong with either car, each of them will speak to a certain driver in their own way. The GS F certainly gets us excited for the next generation model, hopefully Lexus will deliver the power in the form of a boosted V8 engine in the upcoming LC F. Cheers to both of these not being German :)

Redline Reviews Lexus should've called this car GS500 F-Sport and put it against Audi S6, BMW 550i M-Sport, Mercedes E43 AMG, and Cadillac CTS-V Sport. It was a mistake calling it GS-F.

That is a perfectly stated analysis there. I agree 100%. That engine just doesn't add up to the other cars in its class that it is trying to compete against.

Torian Richardson Your missing the point. Lexus didn't make the GSF to be the most powerful and fastest car in its class. Lexus wanted to make a powerful car thats also a drivers car and they accomplished that mission 100%. They are not trying to be the best they just want to offer their take on what a high performance sedan can be. The GSF engine is still awesome the last of its kind. Its still a special car and people who dont only care about numbers will see that.

Toyota4Life I don't think I am missing the point at all. You just contradicted yourself and you don't even realize it. You said Lexus wasn't trying to be the fastest or most powerful car in the class or even the best. That is exactly my point, what is its appeal. You call it a "drivers" car but the CTS-V outpaces it in ever single aspect including handling, power, acceleration, and driver engagement. The BMW is a MUCH better drivers car even still and the AMG is faster with a way nicer interior. In what tangible way could you sell this car to someone in the market for a performance luxury car in this class who isn't already set on buying a Lexus? Serious question, I would like to hear your sales pitch based on tangible information not just your opinion.

Like the Lexus sound better....

I prefer sanity,, I'll take the Lexus.

My everything says Lexus all day

MrMustangrick my everything says Cadillac 🔥

My head AND heart say Cadillac CTS V. You might want to get your heart checked!

@@w41duvernay reliability everyday driver my head is check lexus all day.

competitive but wholesome comment thread

No that's dodge.

I have the 2018 in Ultra White with the Flaxen interior.

Mad Pistol I'll take the gs f over the cts-v, as well.

Mad Pistol If you're buying a car with the forethought of its resale value, you're not buying the car you truly want.

Isamu Wallace actually, I DO want it because it still offers tons of fun, and frankly, the Lexus IS definitely the more luxurious of the two.

Mad Pistol Yeah, get what you want. I'm all for it. But when people speak of resale value or keeping it low miles, they're not enjoying their car. Cars are made for driving and enjoyment, not investments; nothing depreciates faster than a car.

I'm enjoying the hell out of my Lexus IS, even though I have a lease and am trying not to exceed the mileage. Just saying.

Yea, I can safely assume you are a toyota fanboy (Supra picture) But hey, anyone would say they would have the brand that lost because it's their favorite company. I understand.

Anton Zuykov I laugh when people talk about reliability like it shouldn't be something everyone desires no matter the product they buy. It's like not choosing the choice someone else did automatically makes you a fan boy.

pretty funny right guys? sheesh yes...ofc I enjoy the peace of mind knowing my 85,000 investment won't break down. like am I not suppose to? dude give me a break. yes if that means I'm a "fanboy" then so be it.

UnitedRecording​ what? Here's the ranking. Lexus is ranked #1 in dependability by consumer reports. Cadillac is ranked #21 www.consumerreports.org/car-reliability/car-brands-reliability-how-they-stack-up/

UnitedRecording alright let's go with that. Where are you getting the facts? I'd love to read them if I'm truly wrong.

D.J. Wheaton

Same here

Paul Frankel The Lexus is without a doubt the more family friendly option. The ride is softer and the rear seat and seats in general are more comfortable

TheHvk no dude, burnouts

An option would be nice, but some of us enjoy how easy it is to roast the rear tires at will ;)

AWD systems ruin the driving experience.

lou9878 Because he's a bias fool who doesn't do much research,Plus his hate for Lexus/Toyota doesn't help at all.

Yeah, its not like he does this for a living. Idiot

I just went on the Lexus website to build my own and I didn't find that included anywhere. He said it's available on the lower models but not on the GS F and he seems to be right.

lou9878 yes it does

no, not on a new car

because views??

Leonard Rice couldent of said it better

Your on some crack

dcharizard91 i think lexus never build their cars to have the highest hp/torque..their car is about overall experience and satisfaction..comfortable and reliable but still very fast/powerful

A GS500 F-Sport badge may have been more appropriate, we agree with you.

Exactly my thoughts. The GS-F is horribly overpriced when it is much fairer to compare it to the Mercedes E550 and BMW 550i which are in the $60K range. Lexus really should've just called it the GS500 and given an F badge to a more worthy one. Same with RC-F. But I will say is one huge advantage the GS-F does have over the 550i and E550 is the handling and suspension especially since the GS-F does have torque vectoring differential. The 550i and E550 do not get the AMG/M treatment and the GS-F is definitely better than those. It's a tweener. It's too good to compete with the 550i and E550 but too slow to compete with the M5/E63/CTS-V

@@usernamealreadytaken770 The E550 makes 429hp so under that of the Lex and the BMW seems like good value until you add features. The Lex offers an option that is a gap in the Merc line up while BMW seems to do a good job giving a ton of options. You are right about it being slower than the competition in objective tests that the reviewers do but in the real world it all events out. If you're out anywhere other than a track, pretty much anything in the F line up will put its power down better and actually have useable performance. Having gone up against these cars, even in a track setting, maintaining consistency is not something that can be done with those cars. They make so much power that they shred their tires in no time. Most people will not continue to beat on the cars for consecutive laps. Overall it comes down to the driver. Personally I would just enjoy the experience and daily drive-ability. But that's just me.

Same here

lol funny how you say a freaking toyota to the lexus but you don't say that the caddy is a fucking chevy which is far inferior to toyota in every way possible. You are acting like cadillac is a brand of its own like BMW or Mercedes Benz. Well it is not and its certainly not on par with those german brands. Cadillacs share more parts with chevrolet than Lexus shares with Toyota. Just saying ;)

Tbh we all can afford them if you really wanted to but people spend too much money on junk food and expensive clothing. Just have a normal house, eat healthy, dress normal, and you can lease these cars with no problem. 🤙🏽

Eric Thach cts v baby

are you ok?

GSF is 4.4sec man..

80386 I feel they where to bland before, i became far more interested in Lexus now that they changed the design language. It was far to vanilla prior.

@MELLOW design taste is highly subjective, and i hear why you enjoyed their design but to me it was boring and the many at Lexus leadership stated that aswell it was becoming uninspired. The whole reason you have a a F brand is because the leadership felt people attributed Lexus to the senior demographic.

And your profile pic is an S4. You really like slow, underpowered yet horribly overpriced cars, don't you?

Vernon Price The S4 does 0-60 in 4.4 stock with a 333hp V6. That's not slow, bud. You clearly don't know what the S4 is. It's also under $60k. It's built to a higher standard than a Cadillac, better quality materials, better build-quality and it has solid reliability. Audi dominates on interior quality. You just can't beat the Germans. Cadillac is GM garbage. Literally don't sell and they're cheap as hell on the inside and have very poor reliability. Yet you wanna lecture me? Lmao. Learn about cars a little. The GS isn't as quick, but that's not all that matters. The GS is the better car all around in my opinion. Don't like it? Tough shit.

Caleb Chapman And like a typical Audi owner, you don't acknowledge HOW it can do 0-60 in 4.4 seconds. it's called AWD. 0-60 is a measurement of TRACTION, not performance. That's why C&D uses a 5-60 rollout, because they know that stupid people don't understand the difference AWD makes in the 0-60 metric, Zero to 60 mph: 4.6 sec Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec huh, guess it's not that fast when it's not allowed to use an AWD launch. Standing ¼-mile: 13.2 sec @ 107 mph Oh yeah. The S4 is SO FAST. Can't get into the 12s even WITH the help of AWD. "It's also under $60k. It's built to a higher standard than a Cadillac, " It's much less reliable than a Cadillac, son. Audi is notorious for being unreliable. "better quality materials, better build-quality and it has solid reliability. " All bullshit. Especially the materials, were you not aware the CTS-V is made with aluminum, magnesium and carbon fiber? Maybe you should pull your head out of Audi's ass for two seconds and educate yourself. "Audi dominates on interior quality." Too bad magazines don't test for that, huh? "You just can't beat the Germans. Cadillac is GM garbage. " You keep telling yourself that as any V series Cadillac blows your doors off and becomes a small spot in the distance. I had a guy in an S4 try to race me the other day, it was hilarious. I passed him like he was standing still. He was SO MAD. "Literally don't sell " Well now all you're doing is proving you don't know what the word "literally" means. You're literally proving that. Also the CTS-V actually sold completely out, and now there is a 4 month waiting list for it. That seems like the opposite of "literally not selling". "Yet you wanna lecture me? " I like to lecture anybody that exhibits your level of stupidity. You know, Audi fanboys who think Audis are faster than every other car on the planet because they don't understand why or how AWD artificially inflates their 0-60 numbers. You guys are all idiots. "The GS isn't as quick, but that's not all that matters." The GS F is MUCH slower, not just a little bit, and it also handles worse, as proven by the way the CTS-V smacks it around like a bitch on the track. But hey, at least it costs the same amount of money while being so much slower. And nobody cares about your opinion, kid. Your opinion is worthless.

Caleb Chapman "Obviously you care. You took the time to comment, didn't you?" I care about correcting your stupidity, I don't care about your opinion since it's irrelevant due to your vast ignorance. "I never said Audis are faster than anything out there." I didn't say you said that. What are you, illiterate? Read what I said again, then try again. "They are absolutely built better" They are absolutely not built better. Here's an example. d1arsn5g9mfrlq.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/2015%20VDS%20Slide1_0.jpg Audis are absolutely notorious for having major issues, lemon law buybacks, quality issues and reliability issues. "Cadillac on the other hand... They don't sell." Is this your illiteracy rearing its ugly head again? What part of "The CTS-V sold out and there is a 4 moth waiting list for it now" did you not understand? "The CTS and ATS both have very poor sales numbers " See the part about the CTS-V actually selling completely out of stock again. Try to absorb that information. "Keep telling yourself that Cadillac is a world class luxury brand." I never actually said anything even vaguely close to that, but do Cadillac's V series cars absolutely beat the shit out of everything Audi has to offer in the same class? Absolutely, and usually for VASTLY less money. "All that extra displacement and power and they still have V6's with less power keeping up or smoking them. " That's kind of a vague statement. Does Audi make a V6 that comes anywhere near beating any V series Cadillac? Of course they don't. Of course not. The S4 has a 3 liter V6 that makes 333 HP. LOL? Cadillac's 3.6L V6 makes 464 HP and 445 lb-ft. You should spend more time in reality, son. "There are much better performers out there than some rebadged Chevy junk." Like what? Also, which rebadged Chevy do you think the CTS-V is? "It won't hold its value or last, so enjoy that. " Go ahead and look up used CTS-Vs on autotrader. Get back to me with what you find. And we already know Cadillacs are more trustworthy than Audis. "Lol. Measured by traction??" Actually what I said was a measurement of traction. You really are illiterate, aren't you? And yes, that's exactly what the 0-60 metric is. It is 100% dependent on traction, which gives AWD an automatic advantage. Which is why idiots like you cite 0-60 times. "0-60 times absolutely are a measure of performance" Well no they aren't, as the 0-60 metric is completely subject to traction. Not performance. Traction. Which explains why your slow-ass S4 got anywhere near the mid-4 second range 0-60, because as I already proved, its ACTUAL speed is above 5 seconds as proven by the 5-60 rollout test. The fact that you're still confused about this is only proving that your head is up your ass. "Again, if my opinion doesn't matter" Of course it doesn't matter, your opinion is based on complete bullshit. Everything you say is instant throwaway. " Your little rant made zero sense " Just because you have the IQ of a fence post doesn't mean my "little rant" didn't make sense. Your inability to understand it isn't my problem. It's your problem.

Nissan have developed a 3 Cylinder 1.4L engine providing 415bhp weighs just 75lbs while giving proper decent economic urban driving. Average US car has urban combo of 20-30mpg in this day in age that's disgusting!

ForTehNguyen some people are getting new ones around 72-74K. Definitely a nice pick up. Initially overpriced but when they bring down the initial msrp, I can see them moving more. I'd love to get one.

That8oySimba9302 I'd rather buy a used bmw ///M5 than buying any of these cars and have 20 000 to spare lol

hell boy​ I can't say I personally know anyone who's bought a used M, AUG, RS model car. I mostly see them to be bought new (from the forums I visit) and people I talk to. But all these performance sedans lose value so used isn't a bad way to go if the car was treated properly. Idk what year and milage combination of a used M5 you'd be buying that give you $20k left over after purchase. But to each their own.

hell boy I can't say I personally know anyone who's bought a used M, AUG, RS model car. I mostly see them to be bought new (from the forums I visit) and people I talk to. But all these performance sedans lose value so used isn't a bad way to go if the car was treated properly. Idk what year or milage combination of a used M5 you'd be buying that give you $20k left over after purchase. But to each their own.

youre gonna need that 20k to keep repairing that M5

go to your local dealers and do it. Hard for RU-vidrs to do this with copyright issues and you won't get the full sound unless you're there in person to hear it.

Caddy is unreliable

Raptor 450 the v will hold more value in the long run. V series caddys are notorious for not depreciating. on top of that, they might be collectibles. Not so with the GS F

Technically the Cadillac owner would probably just use his dealer loaner ATS to get to work whenever his CTS-V is in the shop ;)

Max Troy The Cadillac will not break down. Cadillac has higher reliability than Lexus.

UnitedRecording get your fact straight a cadillac will never be as reliable to a lexus

touna911 tell that to all of the Cadillacs with many hundreds of thousands of miles on them.

you forgot too add " said no one ever!"