2018+ Ford F150 Rattle on Deceleration Noise 

It’s an annoying sound isn’t it? I had to relearn to drive to make it not happen too often.

When i put 93 in mine it quiets it up along with the other ticks and noises lol

The only way to fix the oil consumption is to reline the cylinders with metal sleeves. Mine has no oil on dip stick after 5000 miles. They say normal. 😮

Sounds logical about the oil passage idea. I thought my oil consumption was fixed. Well, I checked the other day and it was below the low line again at 5000 miles. The longer dipstick didn’t fix it. LOL. I have a lifetime warranty and am hoping it will work when I need it. I doubt it but hope it does.

Sorry you got the same problem. Keep me informed if they fix it. Mine is still under warranty. I linked fordbossman’s video in my comments when I made this video. He was the one referring to the VCT exhaust solenoid. I think there was a bad batch of engines with bad oil passages to the top of the engine. Mine is eating oil again. Thinking the plasma sprayed cylinders walls are wearing out fast.

Sounds good. I have 55k on mine but still eating oil. My sister has the same truck with 95k and had the transmission replaced. Luckily she has the same lifetime warranty I do and it was covered. So now I know that the aftermarket warranty does work. I was worried there would be something like not changing an air filter at 30k or something like that would void the warranty. She had all maintenance done at Ford. I like my truck I just don’t think it will be reliable later on. Hopefully my warranty will work.

Thanks for the info. I will be contacting them again about the oil consumption as the last oil change was below the low line.

Hello do you know which TSB codes they were so that I can take my 18 to the dealer and have them do it?

@@1blackraven13 Search Ford TSB. You will find a website to enter the year of your vehicle by model and scroll through.

not seeing it

Sucks doesn’t it? Yeah. They said normal to me too after 2 years of fighting it. I don’t think so. I had lemon lawyer file a claim. Wanted buy back but courts were 2 years out so small settlement instead. I can give you the lawyers name as he does it nationwide. He is here in Atlanta. Warranty is still good. My truck is now eating oil. Same with sisters truck. Hers is in shop now. It broke down. I have lifetime PT warranty that may be used when the piston cylinder and timing system finally wear out. Good luck to you.

I’m sorry. The only info I have now days is that they won’t do anything about it. Keep all dates and records of everything and contact lemon lawyer. You will get enough to cover an extended warranty. If you have less than 60k miles and 5 yrs you can purchase an extended warranty until 120k at around $89/month for 24 months. I’m more worried about the oil usage. The rattle has actually gone down in volume now. Still there and annoying though. The parts must finally be wearing out. I have a lifetime power train warranty so I hope it works when I need it. The lawyer I used works nationwide. www.filelemonlaw.com/

I talked to a top ford mechanic about this issue yesterday. He said the 18-19s all do it after the first oil change. Nothing can be done about it. That was when mine started. They don’t have the issue in 21-22s. 20s are questionable. The mechanic sold his and bought a Gen 2 truck 2016 instead.

@@fixthemthings so what exactly is making that noise?

@@chuckwalla325 the exhaust VCT solenoids. It only happens when in drive and engine cold. Try it in park or neutral. It won’t happen. It’s bad FORD programming. I have heard some people get rid of it only by a custom tune. Personally, I think the Gen3 engine is crap with the plasma sprayed cylinder walls. I wish I would have bought a gen2 2015-2017 model instead. They have sleeved cylinder walls. I don’t think these engines will last even with 5000 mile oil changes. Does your engine sound like a diesel for the first 30 seconds after starting then smooth out? It takes that long for the oil to get to the top of the engine. That is not good. You can try pushing your gas pedal all the way down and start the truck and keep starting it for about 10 seconds then let off the gas and let it start. That pumps the oil up before starting. It keeps mine from being so loud but it is a pain in the ass. I have heard that they also may have had some bad castings with small oil passages. Not positive about that but have heard that.

Sounds familiar. They fixed it for ‘21-‘23 models by going back to iron sleeves. At least, that is what I understand. Hopefully mine blows up under warranty and they can put the newer block in. 😂

Yep. Mine burns down below the low line after 5000 miles. They said that’s normal. I hope it locks up before my warranty is up at 120k. I have 68k on mine.

Wow. I didn’t know the 3.5 had the same problem. It’s really annoying and embarrassing. My issue now is the truck is eating oil again. It was below the low line at 5000 mile oil change. My truck sound like a box of rocks for the first 30 seconds after startup then quiets down. I’m afraid I have worn parts due to oil starvation to the top. Hopefully ford will do something on next oil change.

I am about to extend my warranty. I will ask again. The dealer I have been dealing with has not been cooperative. I need to try a different one.

Let me know if you find anything. I have 45k on mine. I know a bunch of people that have the same issue. I think programming the PWM out of the solenoids while cold will be the only fix. It’s embarrassing to drive when cold. It echoes across the parking lots.

No. I haven’t had any issues with that. My problems are all drivetrain problems. Engine and transmission. Everything else in the truck is good.

@@fixthemthings issue I have is paint chipping away and the plastic 💀 93k miles on mine now

The lifetime warranty was part of the new purchase. I have heard that if you change your own air filter, it will be void. Of course. However, you can extend your Ford warranty before 60kmiles or 5 years. That is what I did. I have 120k miles warranty now. I’m at 80k now.

If you have extended warranty, fight tooth and nail with Ford, they know about this issue and they can’t fix it. The reason they don’t want to fix it. Is they have to spend money but you spent money if you have a contract extended contract here’s a thing keep fighting tooth and nail like it’s your life don’t give up because they want you to give up so they don’t have to spend the money, if they keep pushing you and you just say forget it, they won the battle and they don’t have to spend no money and you can still got the problem. Look up online about this issue. There’s a quite a few things that it’s happening with that motor the cams were too loose, there was a re-program there was a recall there was quite a bit of stuff, so just look it up and you’ll see what I’m talking about. If you give up they won the battle. They don’t have to spend no money and you still have the problem, and if you’ve had it back more than three times for the same thing, it could fall under the lemon law so don’t give up that’s what they want

Well. They told me the same thing. If you want the lemon lawyer I used, he got me some “good will” money that helps the pain a little. I won’t post how much but it helps a little. Since they had it that long and you have documentation then you should get something.

Also make ford give you the Premium care warranty for free. I'm warrantied till 90k miles then I'll be trading it in and never going back to ford.

I don’t think Ford will fix their problem. Luckily, I have a lifetime power train warranty. My sister just used the same warranty and it worked for the transmission. If you are less than 60k miles you will be able to extend the warranty through ford. May be worth it if you keep the truck. I had to learn to drive different. I am light on letting off the throttle until it warms up.

Hasn’t been fixed. I had to relearn how to drive to make it not happen. I just don’t let off the gas. 😂😂. My bigger problem is the oil consumption which is only fixed by getting a block with lined cylinders. Not plasma lined. VCT solenoids will not fix it unless they just came out with an updated version. If you come across something that works, please post it here. There is also a class action lawsuit going on right now about the oil consumption.

Wow. I need to go to your dealer. I have a warranty until 120k now.

How long ago did you get it fixed? Do you have the oil consumption problem too? I may have to try different dealers too.

@@fixthemthings just got it back yesterday . No oil issues. They fixed that a while ago

Yes. Keep me updated. I would think a Ford Tech would chime in and give us some info I was hoping the solenoids would fix it. I have to go for the next oil change and will ask again about the solenoids. I only have them do the oil changes due to the warranty.

David if you find any success while troubleshooting please keep us updated. I am also in the same boat.

@@jacobhughes9443 will do. And you too! I know 5 people with the same problem but theirs is not as loud as mine. From what I have been reading the last few years, tuning is the only fix so far. I just don’t know what in the programming fixes it. I put a lemon lawyer on Ford since I document everything and got a few “good will” bucks out of them.

@@fixthemthings any word on a fix? I’m currently dealing with this on a 2018 5.0

@@Thepilotdad I think we are all just screwed. I am going to extend my warranty once I get close to 59k miles or less than 5 years. If you are under 60k give them a call. It’s roughly $89/month for 24 months of payments. That gives you another 60k miles or 5 years. The engine will fail one day due to lack of lubrication to the top end and piston failure due to plasma sprayed cylinder walls. That is just my opinion. I ended up getting a lemon lawyer for a little compensation which would cover the extended warranty.

That sucks man, I still have mine and it’s great, just makes stupid noises 😂

Not really. You could try exchanging your VCT solenoids. Buy 2021 and later. They fixed the engines from what I understand

@Fix Them Things! I appreciate the feedback man. I wonder what was actually fixed. I don't ever hear about 2018 vehicles blowing up or anything. Could it be the noise is actually "normal"? How has your truck been?

@@j.w.presents9552 the truck itself is great. The powertrain sucks. I’m eating oil and rattle is loud. 5000 mile and oil barely touches the dipstick. Told me that was normal. It’s only 2 quarts they said. 18-20 have plasma sprayed cylinder walls. I am probably having blow by in the cylinders which will eventually clog up cats and ruin O2 sensors. I had to relearn how to drive to make the embarrassing rattle not so loud. I try not to let off the gas. I bought an extended warranty so maybe it will go out before it expires.

I’m surprised your cats haven’t clogged up. Did they ever do a timing job on it? I still have no oil on the dipstick after 5k miles.

no, nothing has been done to it... I add 1.5 liters (1.6 quarts) of oil every 2500 milles

Yeah. It’s not normal. My Chevy and dodge friends have problems also. The 18-20 fords are problematic. I want to know what they did to fix it in 21-22. We must have had bad engine castings with blocked oil cavities or something. I’m extending my warranty because I know the engine will fail one day.

I have same thing as this guy and the low speed shift chatter like pinging due to low octain

​@@fixthemthingsthe "fix" in 2021 was to move to an internal belt driven oil pump which moves oil to the top of the head. But also has a 100k service interval.

@@TheAntinowherelane is there a TSB for this fix?

Exact problem with my 18! Whats the solution?

How did you get them to replace the engine? I finally gave up. I will purchase an extended warranty as I believe the engine or transmission will go out before 120k. My trans sometimes clunks on startup too. I wonder what they changed on the new engines to get rid of the rattle?

@@fixthemthings I complained to corporate gave them a bad review review. Had to be persistent every time I was in the dealership. They finally did a oil consumption test My truck was using one qt every 1000 miles or more.. I did by the extended warranty and and I'm at 70000 miles now. The new engine is fantastic

Yes. Keep me updated please. As far as buy back, I don’t think it will happen due to backups in court. At least that is what my lemon lawyer told me so we settled on a payment that basically covered the extended warranty that I just bought. I’m at 60k now.

@@fixthemthings As expected... went all the way up to Ford HQ and then told "its normal"... guess I'll pound sand until I can get rid of it and buy a non ford....

@@mattontrail follow fordbossme on TikTok or RU-vid. Gen3 engines are the oil eaters due to plasma linings. Apparently the Gen4 has sleeves again and fixes the oil problems. There are no engines in stock to replace anyway. www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRqMA4UP/

@fixthemthings UPDATE! FIXED! After multiple dealership run around I finally found one that gave the time of day. I got a full ( under warranty ) transmission replacement and they replaced the cams. Good as new

It’s sad Ford won’t fix these problems. The gen2 engine was so good. Then they redesigned to this POS Gen3 and it’s full of problems. I wonder how they fixed it in the 21 and 22 models? I haven’t heard any problems in those models. Luckily, I have a lifetime power train warranty. I think it will blow one day. My sister’s same truck just had the transmission replaced under that lifetime warranty at 92k miles.

I have had a few people say that. Wish I had his money, I wouldn’t be repairing anything.

Well, that is interesting. I thought it was only in the 5.0. I have been searching for 3 yrs, 2 dealers, RU-vid, forums, etc. The only thing I found is one guy tuned it and now it’s gone. He does not know what in the tuned got rid of it.

@@fixthemthings I'm think problem is a part form VCT: cam phaser, solenoid or oil presure :/ ... Because after unplug solenoid i got the check engine but rattle was gone -.- So... after plug vct solenoid and delete fault code engine start rattle again ^.^

I didn’t know this affected the 2017. I thought it was only the plasma lined engines starting in 2018. 2015-2017 had good engines gen2.

Nice.

@fixthemthings what was your longterm result on oil consumption?

⁠Still no oil on dipstick after 5k miles. They tell me that is normal. I need to try a different dealer. I bought an extended warranty and hoping this thing will just blow up before 120k.

I hope they find something. Maybe there is a good tech somewhere that knows how to fix it. I can’t believe Ford doesn’t have a fix for this. Document everything. I can give you the lemon lawyer info I used.

@@fixthemthings They are going to replace the VCT solenoids. Stated this is currently an on going issue but it's covered under power train. 🤞

@@joshrideout8609 let me know how it goes. How did you get them to do that? Is there a TSB or did you show them a video. Did they say they have been fixing it that way?

@@fixthemthings had same question as you, are they gonna ever issue a TSB or just make all F-150 owners fight service departments until someone listens. I have same very loud rattle on my 2018 5.0 F-150, with slight but noticeable accel loss of power.

Cold oil makes it louder. Even after being warmed up you will hear it best in a drive through when the sound bounces off the bricks.

Let me know if they will do anything. If they don’t I can put you in touch with my lemon lawyer so you can get a few bucks out of them.

Check your state lemon law. once in the shop for a certain amount of time they will have to do it.

@@benjaminhambright I did. Since Covid is here the Lawyer said the courts are 2 years out for buy backs and probably wouldn’t happen by then. So we did a small claim and ford paid a little bit for my trouble. I still want it fixed though.

@@fixthemthings I went a different route. I did not use a lawyer, but went through ford's own buy back program, it saves them from having to resell a car as a "lemon" and takes the lawyer (and their fees) out of the equation. Ford will be more willing to work with you using this route. Because you noticed the low oil level at 5k, your "usage fees" should not consider any miles since that point onward, Even still, Ford is sheisty AF, so watch as many videos as you can on their buy back program. The oil consumption in particular is more damaging to the longevity of a motor than people may realize. Even though it may not be caused by a poor piston/ring/cylinder fit, the burned oil is very bad for catalytic converters, dramatically shortening their life. Also, if the oil vapor is coming from the intake side of things, this will lead to deposits on the intake valves, hurting MPG and HP. The techs know this, but will play stupid because they know this wont be a problem until after the warranty is up. I got almost all my money back, and was so bitter with how they handled it I will never buy another Ford again.

I have spark knock going up hills. 93 octane will probably help that but I’m not doing that. My problem is the VCT solenoid rattle on deceleration. Still doing it plus the oil consumption. Possible faulty oil passages in the blocks. Takes at least 30 seconds for oil to get to the top of the engine. No good. Oil below fill line at 5k miles. Got tired of fighting it and bought the Ford extended warranty hoping it will just lock up one day. Only fix is a new engine. The new ones (21-23)don’t have the plasma lined cylinders from what I understand.

@@fixthemthings I have the very loud chatter after deceleration just like your video. I am being told by the dealer that it is normal. It is not normal to me. I do have extended warranty for another 20,000km.

@@fixthemthings I have the same issue with my 2018 F150 5.0 V8, Lariat. Let me tell you my story. 2020 - 32K miles. Took it to the dealer and told them about the noise and of course they said it's normal. I said to myself let me purchase the extended warranty and I paid $3800 for additional 3 years or 76K miles. 2021 - 43K miles Went to the dealer again and now I have noticed that the car performance is not the same. Besides the fact that oil consumption took a place they didn't even mention it. 2022 - 51K miles. Visited different dealer and technician told me that I need new engine for sure. I was like wow that's great I am covered by warranty can we order it? He told me there is a lead time of 1 year to get a new engine. I said can we send request and I don't mind waiting until February 23'. He said no problem we are going to place an order and keep you posted. They didn't even create a case. 2023 - 55K miles I am going to a totally different dealer to change the oil and tell them about the noise. They called me after two days and told me "bad news". I need a new engine. I said OK. Can we order it? They said that's why we have bad news. Ford doesn't make this engines anymore!!! I said wait! You are telling me that now I am stuck with $70K truck and can't even fix it? The said just try to sell it before the engine fails. I said NO. I will not give it to someone else knowing that there is a potential issue down the road. I called state attorney and told them what happened. They advised me to contact Ford directly. If the Ford doesn't do anything I should hire attorney. I called Ford and create a case with them. They said we will try to find a "3rd party" engine if necessary. They contacted all of my dealers and they confirmed that this engine is not going to be made anymore. They transfer me to Ford customer relationship services. I spoke to them and told them I need this fixed or I need new truck and if I have to hire attorney I will do so. I told them that this is something that car manufacturer should either fix or give you a new truck. Simply take mine back and claim it as loss or do whatever you have to do. Customers should not be dealing with the issue your engineering team created at the first place. And I don't want to lose $70000. I am still under the warranty and will push as much as I can to get this solved. If this was Europe and Mercedes have this amount of people complaining they would have to recall all of this 5.0 models and replace them free of charge or give us new trucks. I saw a lot F150 owners having the same issue and not many of them are solved. The law should be on our side.

Do you play the radio loud?

Wow. Third engine? Mine is still eating oil. I’m about to purchase the warranty extension for another 60k mikes. I like the truck other than the powertrain. I wonder what they did to the newer engines?

@@fixthemthings sorry to hear that. it literally took me jumping out of the truck after my service guy started being a smart you know what I was so pissed and went off on him he called me the next day to say I was right the truck is using to much oil. I’ve been dealing with this for 3 years my current engine only has 2000 miles on it usually by that time I could tell if I was losing to much oil this one seems fine so far but I will always check the oil now. As far as the new engine’s I don’t know what they did if anything I just hope this engine is good. I’ve got to go deal with this rattling noise now.

@@fixthemthings did you have any luck on finding out exactly what the rattling is from I know they have a TSB out for it.

@@kenwilson2314 I assume it is the VCT solenoids. For oil consumption, I assume bad castings on the engine blocks for oil delivery causing excessive wear. Is there a new TSB out on this? If there is, could you share it here?

@@fixthemthings I’m not sure about a new TSB for the oil consumption from what I gathered it was the plasma coating in the cylinder walls that’s breaking down letting oil blow by.

Is there a TSB for it or do you have to ask for it? How did you download it?

Did you use Forscan to fix it or what did you download?

Please tell...we are listening.

I had dealer do the 45k oil change today. I checked the level before I went and it was below the low level line again. What the heck. I’m afraid this engine will not last. I wonder if the lifetime warranty they gave with the truck will really work.

Did you drive another 21 5.0? Any of the same issues if you did.

@@JokerSRT No I did not. Heard a few stories of the same issues, mostly the oil consumption on the 2021s. I didn’t even bother test driving one because the cylinder deactivation being something I don’t want any part of. I can tell you hauling my camper is night and day. 5.0 would struggle at times & the 3.5 I don’t even know it’s back there. Same exact mpg between both trucks. loved the 5.0 but what a nightmare it was in my 2018. I have zero regrets. Good luck👍🏻

It’s coming from the VCT solenoids. I had my michrophone system prove that.

Ain’t normal

No it’s not normal. Use my lemon lawyer if you want. If you plan on keeping the truck.

I have heard that doesn’t fix it.

At the time. Lemon law court cases were 2 years out due to Covid for a buy back. I did put a lemon lawyer on it and got a small settlement. Enough to pay for an extended warranty.

Awesome. Finally some remedy. I will look into it. I have 59k miles on it now. Thanks for posting.

Give me the number of person at ford you talked to. Thanks.

Do they have an updated version of the VCT solenoids now?

@@fixthemthingsnot that i am aware of. It has only been 6,000 miles since i replaced them so we will see how long they last. It was about $220 in parts.

Yeah. I had that one done already. It’s old.

Already did. During Covid, court cases were backed up 2 yrs. Settled on small “shut up” settlement instead. Enough to purchase extended warranty.

Really? Uh, it’s still eating oil.

@@fixthemthings Yes. But at least then it won't get too low between changes.

You shouldn't have to do that with that new of a truck

They refused to fix it at 1 dealer. The selling dealer wanted to fix it but Ford would not let them.

I call bullshit. 40 year mechanic here.

Already did that. During pandemic it was 2 year delay. I received very little hush money. Enough to buy an extended warranty.