This is the first car that I may buy that isn’t pure function. Up until now I have driven nothing but Civics, due to the fact they are reasonably priced, functional, and damn reliable. And because I DETEST depreciating assets, I have owned five so far. But this may get me to change my old habits. Nice job VW!
Allan Desmond That’s why I rebuilt my computers myself. Much more cost effective when u just replace the Motherboard, CPU, and memory and leave the rest alone.
so true, nothing wrong at all buying a used car... just stop being the smug punk who thinks their a smarter parasite for doing so... Say thank you to people who do an the Millions of related jobs that New car factories bring..again NO such thing as a used car factory.. makes real sense when you think about it..
when they started talking about its "competition" things felt a little awkward. At 50k this thing isnt even close to A5 or bmw gran-coupe and everyone in that car including the VW rep knows it.
I suspect that those who reject the Arteon because it has a four cylinder turbo engine haven't driven and lived with VW's version of that engine. Not only does it perform superbly in its stock form, it's easily tunable. Obviously, I haven't had an opportunity to drive the Arteon but having driven the CC and the Passat with earlier incarnations of the engine and the Golf R with a slightly more powerful version of the Arteon engine I'd have no worries that VW has provided a great engine for the Arteon. On the other hand, I'm slightly disappointed that VW has elected to substitute a tiptronic automatic for their DSG (at least in Canada and probably, I'm guessing in the US). Having owned a couple of VW's DSG vehicles, it's a favorite of mine. Minor issue, though, since the functionality of the tiptronic (if not the architecture) provides much the same manual control option. As far as competition is concerned, the Kia Stinger is obvious. But despite the similarities, I think the two vehicles appeal to somewhat different demographics. Just guessing, but I suspect the modal Stinger buyer is a mid-30 y/o male (or an older male who would like to be 35 again.) The Arteon, I think, will appeal to a slightly older buyer and to a larger proportion of women buyers than the Stinger. Comparing configurations and (estimated US) price, the Stinger has a much wider range. The base Stinger with the 2.0 turbo will be significantly less expensive with either real wheel or all wheel drive. But move up to various GT trims with the twin turbo V6 and I'm suspecting that MSRP will be nearly as much if not more than the Arteon, especially for the GT2. Both vehicles fit broadly into the Grand Touring category. The 2.0 turbo Stinger is certainly an adequate performer but I suspect the Arteon will be somewhat better, at least as a long distance cruiser. The RWD option of the Stinger (at least in the US) is an advantage (in price) but both vehicles offer AWD. I own both a Kia (Sorento) and a VW (GTI) so my brand loyalty is split but I suspect that the overall material quality of the Arteon will be maybe half a step better than the Stinger. For me, it would be a difficult choice, but I think I'd go with the Arteon. If the Genesis G70 were in the mix, though, I might go with that over either.
In a word, WOW!!!!!!!!! If I were in the market for a car I would buy this. Why not? Great looks, plenty of space and VW quality. Thanks for the excellent review men.
Henry you know where you can take your lol? I sold my 2007 GTI to a friend of mine recently which had 285,000 km on the odometer. That car never let me down and was certified when I sold it. I regret selling it.
Konos44 that's engine not motor. I have the Golf R engine in our 2018 TTS. I guess based on your reply we'll have to sell it after a few years. Oh no, what are we going to do?????
I work at a VW dealer in Nova Scotia, and we got 4 Arteons as soon as they were available. BY the beginning of this year, we had sold only 1 of them. This car had such great potential, but it seemed to flop pretty hard in eastern Canada. In my personal opinion, I would have to blame the engine. Its a $50,000 plus car, and the only engine that is available isn't even as powerful as the Golf R's engine. The Altas V6 was just begging to be put in this car, and I think that would have made a world of difference. Another gripe I have with it is the interior. Yes, it has many cool features, (the massaging seats are amazing, I absolutely love them) but the plastic used on the door panels and elsewhere just feels slightly too cheap. You're spending 50K on a luxury car, it should at least feel that way inside. On the plus side, it was a smart decision to put the 4-motion system in as standard, and I think that the exterior is one of the best Volkswagen has ever produced. I'm not sure how the car was received in the rest of the country, but it seemed to do very poorly over here. We just sold our last one a few months ago after it had sat on the lot for over 4 years. To me, it just seems like too much money for not enough car.
I currently drive a '17 R (w/ manual) and really like the looks of the Arteon. However, there seems to be a couple things that I don't like about the R that they didn't address in the Arteon. - Turbo lag - For the price, too much hard plastic Why oh why VW does it take so long to get a product to NA? This car has been available in Germany for nearly a year now and we STILL have to wait until Christmas (probably January at the earliest) to see it in dealerships?!?! Disappointed that the DSG isn't making it to this side of the pond. For me, if it's not a stick then it needs to be a dual clutch (especially when you dumb it down for this market) or no sale. Sorry.
VW Canada dude, make sure those rear amber indicator lights make it to Canada. I've become very disappointed with VW's change to red rear indicator lights.
The only thing I can see messing with the Arteon is the Stinger. It is RWD, has a V6, and it does offer much better warranty and tbh Kia has been killing it recently with reliability and their overall lineup
Yup, looks pretty. There is always some glib manufacturers, corporate-speak thrown in. Really, the last 50 years of driving I always wanted some headlamps? We used to go forth, with candles on holders. Really nice ....
Hi guys, great review as always. I am ordering my very own Arteon soon here in Europe, but I am still in doubt about which colour to choose. Do know if the car in the first part of the video is in Urano or Mangan grey? The one you are showing looks awesome, but it is hard to decipher in the VW website if the one you are showcasing is the Urano or the Mangan grey version... And yes I have been to several VW showrooms close to where I live, but no-one has an Arteon or Passat in Mangan or Urano grey on show.
I concur. I have a GTI with the 2.0L engine. Can't imagine how long it would hold up lugging an addition 400 lbs (or what the weight difference is between the two) around for several years.
Once the EPA finds out (they already know) "owners with Turbo powered vehicles are not getting the advertised MPG numbers" manufactures will be forced to regulate Boost pressure. I can see the next generation of OBD tracking the computers MPG numbers and that gets back via dealerships to the EPA.
"Kicking ass" is not what the Arteon is about. The Stinger is a Korean version of a European GT designed for the North American market. The Arteon is a German GT designed for a world market.
What a pleasant surprise! It was saddening to know that the Phaeton was cancelled (in N.A. Market). I am glad that they are taking another stab at the luxury (entry luxury?) market again. Good for them. Thanks for the video.
So, it's basically an A7, but with leather that's less soft by a barely perceptible degree, a bit less power, and a less nice badge. However, in my opinion it's the looker of the two, with the A7 having been far prettier for the Arteon's first year, until Audi decided to ruin the rear end proportions and make the angle of the grille weird for 2018. Especially considering that the Audi badge doesn't mean all that much in North America compared to what it means in Europe and East Asia, being a premium brand alongside Infiniti, Buick, or maybe Mazda aside from the A8/Q7 halo, why would I get an A7 over this? The A7 has a second screen (or third, if you count the digital gauges), but that screen is used for exactly the controls you'd want to still be physical buttons, like the tuner and volume knobs and the climate control, which the Arteon still has as physical controls since it only has one screen. I think VW's competing with themselves here, and mistakenly putting the better car in the lower margin brand, like they did with the Phaeton and Touareg.
It's a beautiful car. I hope they sell a version in the USA without all the bells and whistles at a lower price. All that junk will break down over time just like your home computer. The repair bills will be through the roof.
J-oh Bl-oh: The bumper to bumper warranty for the KIA runs for 5 years, not 36 months. And contrary to your comment, it's comprehensive, covering virtually everything other than wear items such as tires, filters, etc. And again, the VW bumper to bumper warranty now runs for six years/72,000 miles. Before spouting off, perhaps you should educate yourself.
I hate sunroofs. They almost always lower your headroom due the mechanism and track. Not a family car. The new VW CROSSTOUR. "No reason to buy an SUV" except to get the headroom back that we are going to lose from making the sunroof standard. Then they leak air and drip water and get noisy as they age. If I wanted that I would drive my convertible. I will be sticking to my old reliable Town Car lol. I bet the fuel mileage is similar since they did not mention it.
That interior design does not match the elegance of the exterior lol. But I’ve been paying close attention to this car since Feburary. Gotta see this in person at the showroom.
The liftback is nothing new, GM had it back in the 1970s on the Pontiac Venturas, but lots of problems with water problems. Hopefully VW has solved these problems.
Great car, but this video looks very scripted and very controlled by VW... Both presenters are very careful of what they're saying and comparing to. Lol.
Guys, stop calling it VolksUAgen. Stop translating names. You are supposed to be serious review guys from Canada. If you spend so much effort for review, at least pronounce the name property. It drives us nuts. It is pronounced FolksVagen. Very simple with F ang V FFFolksVVVagen. Thank you!
The exterior: hell yes Safety package/driver assistance: yes Interior: fail. 😢 Please VW improve the interior and make it match the beauty of exterior and make it 400-500hp. Also panorama roof please.
Love the looks, LOVE the hatch, but there it is again from VPA, that damn privacy glass sucking all the style and good looks out of the car. 50k for a car pranked by the factory...not on a bet.
My beef is with the ‘privacy’ tint, and though I will concede to your reference to its cooling benefit, it’s still a deal breaker for me. Who drives naked anymore?
How is this racist or offensive? Sweet and sour are flavors. Human ability to taste deteriorates over time and is exacerbated by alcohol. But old alcoholics aren't a race. This post is turning into nonsensical rambling and still makes more sense than you.