2020 Civic Si (STAGE 1) vs. 2009 Cobalt SS Turbo | CLOSE RACE! 

Go watch Sergio's video of the race from his POV to see the great run that I didn't put in my video! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YUUXFcwsk4w.html

11 years in and those SS 'balts are still kickin ass, impressive!

The SS/TC, nice. Very underrated car.

I got a Honda Accord 2.0t 2019 with the 10 speed , that car pulls I could tell you that , I’ve took a infinity g37 easy and I went head too head with a Dodge Charger RT , keep in mind that car has a v8, compared to a four-cylinder lol , accord is definitely a sleeper

Just subbed. Don’t really know how Si’s drive since I went straight for the Type R. Hopefully you get a Type R lol. Not much vloggers on RU-vid with Type R’s. Keep up the good work dude!

No matter what, the Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbocharged is always my favourite car forever.😍

I love Cobalts and I have the supercharged one, but damn those simple mods on your si made a difference. Don't get frustrated 😂 it's all about progress. And it's cool that you learn a lot about your car as you go. Don't give up on that SI there's a reason they're popular.

Wow didn’t know the L-series has been around that long. Good engines, although I wish they were at least a 1.8L for the Si.

I don’t much about cars like everyone else but I still love em

You're gonna sell that civic once the ss gets a tune!

Sold my tuned focus ST because of reliability issues and bought my 10th gen SI knowing it was way slower. So i'm really excited to see your tuned car race an ST

Hey man nice race! Just as expected from the tune. Get that intercooler and you’ll walk him for sure. Reason why your knock control is so high is mainly due to the huge amount of heat soak. .79 is getting pretty high up there. But nothing major to be concern of. I use to see .7 Knock every time until I got my Intercooler. Never been higher than .65 and that’s constantly WOT to 100+ MPH . That intercooler is holding back a lot of power due to heat soak. It can’t get the cooling job done with the amount of power which creates extra heat inside the engine. Like I said in your previous video, once you get that intercooler almost to none turbo lag, and way stronger power at the top end. Again, nice race! Drive safe. Stock up on toilet paper.

To be honest, I guess 1.5T is not enough for race, there should be engines like Kseries or other (k20,b22,k24)...Honda should give us 2.0 for Si.... P.s dude content awesome as usual keep doing

Saw your vids popping up on my feed, and got hooked, dope videos man, keep it up!!!

How do you expect to beat somone if your not using your whole RPMs , last time I check your red out lines should be blinking 3 times before sifting and your exuashust should pop after shifting. So stop covering up your speedometer . I have a SI and I can keep up with a STIs, focus STs and g35s

The SS Cobalts are aging nicely! I had one over 11 years ago and I loved it then.

I think there is very good a reason why the Chevy Cobalt SS forced the Dodge Neon out of the market. 😂😭 Back in 2006, the Chevy Cobalt SS, Pontiac G5 GT, Subaru Impreza WRX, Scion tC, Acura RSX Type S, and Honda Civic Si all looked so good.

Good work and content 👍🏻 really upping the quality of these vids man keep it up!

Nice runs! Sergio’s Cobalt looks nice. Those Factory Cobalt wheels really look nice 👍

At min 7:36 he just died inside, Idk the stages on the si but I did see a video that cat, intercooler and intake on dyno was 240+ whp and that was it for the turbo, it was too small to push more HP, now you just reflash that SS and will still walk away even with all the mods I mention for the SI , still very impressed how much HP out of that small SI motor.

The Cobalt isn't even tuned yet. A good ZZP tune would push it close to 300hp. if it's a G85 package car even better.

I love your videos man I just watched 3 of them. Very nice editing and transitions. I run a couple RU-vid channels and I love watching small channels put all this great work and details Into their videos

"with the fucking cows in the back man!" hahaha, love you videos man! keep up the great content just subscribed, I've watched over 15 videos in the last 2 days!

Diggin' the new on-screen text/graphics man.

I feel like part of the issue is that the Si engine is just too small in the first place. I don’t know how confident I would feel pushing a 1.5 liter engine to the max. I’ve never driven Si’s before but I imagine that those previous gen’s may have been a different story with their bigger engines and VTEC. The Si is better suited for a boring guy like me who doesn’t race or mod his cars tbh. I think someone like you might enjoy a more powerful ride. You mentioned the BRZ and as an owner of a WRX, I think you’ll come to love Subies in general.

My dad got me into Honda's and acura's from working at an acura dealership, 1st car was a 89 Integra rs. Now I own a 2007 stock cobalt ss. But anyway been loving your content, keep it 💯

Cameron awesome video as always!! I think your Content is amazing!! I look forward to seeing the channel grow bigger and bigger! Those were great races for sure!! I think an RSX build would be cool!! Have a great weekend and I look forward to the next video!! 🚙🚙🚙

That cobalt tuned is going to make the honda look very bad. Easily 50-60 more hp with a zzp mail order tune and map sensors. Then go to an ethanol mix tune and that lnf will be hitting 350hp to the wheels and over 400lbs of torque. They are quite impressive motors for making power. Its the reliability part that might get ya.

Would be curious to see the Cobalt SS vs an Acura TL or a modded Rav4 V6 for kicks.

New forged rods (to prevent most common engine malfunction on modded 10th gens, thrown rods) - $750 New clutch (to hold and utilize new whp and wtq) -$450ish? Price without a new flywheel. PRL Flex Fuel Kit (best bang for buck power and torque gains, also allows engine to run a little cooler) -$450 New tune for FF kit ($???) Beyond that work on keeping your engine and oil cool, maybe better intercooler, and you already have CAI + exhaust. Biggest shortcomings on this civic appear to be the piston rods failing around 280 whp (if I remember correctly), and the clutch inability to hold 250+ hp. I've been meaning to start my own vlogging on my own same '20 civic si. These are roughly my game plans for the build. You might want to look into new rods if you want to keep pushing to stay on the safer side of catastrophic engine failure. I think the 10th gen Si can be a relatively stable 300 hp ride for sub 30k including new purchase price. My $.02, I also enjoy the channel. 👌

What gas are you using? 91? 93? Also what mods did your buddy have? Lol u might had said it but I skipped to the race lol

I’d keep the SI. Just upgrade internals, clutch, and go prl turbo then just go bolt ons and e85 tune. You won’t regret it and you won’t compromise having a nice quality car and still decent on gas while still being reliable. You’ll easily be able to hit 400-450whp with a built motor and upgraded clutch. Stick with the 10 gen.

I was looking forward to this video! I haven't watched the whole video but let's hope you can win this time around.

I am so confused as to why a lot of front wheel drive fans back in 2009 didn’t buy the Chevy Cobalt when it came out...I bought one back in 2011 used at 17,000 miles for $20,000 from the Chevy dealership in East Texas and it was such a fun car and quick and it seemed that not many people bought this car when it was out at the dealerships it’s not like it was expensive so I just didn’t understand and still don’t till this day... and now these cars are still rare and selling but now they have a lot of miles. But it was a good car to buy.

I wouldn't sweat it bro you just need some parts. 27won brought out a drop in turbo that will give you more power per PSI becuase it runs a lot more efficient. I seen automatic hatchback civics on E85 beat STI's you have a lot of options

Bruh is chilling at 15 psi on that Balt and them babies can push so much more stock. Still recommend getting a Z series turbo for quick boost or the 257 for big power. Love the car

Definitely gonna need to get an intercooler. The knock jumped up because the stock intercooler gets heat soaked very quickly with higher boost levels which causes a hotter intake charge. Which will cause detonation. Detonation is what knock control maintains. It pulls timing to prevent damage to the engine

I find it funny how stock vs tuned cobalt is just as fast

I always look forward to see one of your vids bro keep up the good work love to see what you’re doing with the si I’m planning on getting one myself 💯

That cobalt need Stage 1 tune and it will eat that civic.

yesss bro i had to come straight to the comments when i heard you’re gonna get a type s😏😍

Rumor has it, Honda is going to a .7L with 3 turbos.

I see your in California, what I definitely suggest from experience is our ECUs are programed to Handel 15% ethanol so the next time you race put no more than 1 gallon of ethanol and the rest 91 gas and your basically running your car on 93 at that point and you will most definitely see a noticeable difference on how much smoother racing around on map 3 is and your car won’t pull as much timing which is what it means when your knock control starts to rise. However only try once in a blue moon because you won’t want to accidentally start going over 15% with out a flex fuel kit and proper tune.

Love the style of your videos keep up the good work👍🏻 also are those Unity Performance side markers? if so i have them for my civic as well haha

@13:39 is he hittin a mini bottle. Lol

Trading the SI for a newer Mustang GT or Camaro & having an RSX Type S as a project car would be awesome. No replacement for displacement!

that BMW burnout killed me. no matter what happens from here i will hit like cuz that shit was hilarious.

Thanks for bringing us yet another vibe 🥂 enjoyed

hey I love your videos, maybe let others drive your car,and test the times against yours.too see if your using the cars full potential.Keep up the good work

They say cars have to be heavy because all of the stafty stuff that has to go into them. But that's not true because you can get a lotus and it's gonna be a safe car and barely any weight add its like owning a mr2. It would be pretty cool to take a 240sx and put a k20a2 in it

Its not all about speed my friend

I owned a 09 cobalt ss before I bought my 2018 si the civic is a nicer car but the cobalt was much more exhilarating and after 7 years of ownership of the ss I sold it for 8500 my hats off to gm better bang for the buck, I really love my si but the ss was built better for performance and a cheaper car

Dude, Your car is turning in to a dalmatian lol.

Just want to say thanks for the content ive been watching all your civic si vids cause I was gonna get one but I ended up purchasing a veloster n

Loving the vids brother I would love to see you do alot of different bolt on's that add more horse power to your honda

Get an MK7 GTI. With only a few bolt-one and e85, you can embarrass a lot of V8 cars. At stage 2 the new GTI’s can push over 320hp on stock turbo.

I think the si is 205 horse power isnt it

Love seeing the cobalt again. Miss my 06 sssc

Get that prl intercooler next😎

We’re you on 93 octane? I heard the TSP tune is optimized for 93 so running 91 may lead to less power and higher knock control.

damn in australia we don't get the 2dr Honda Si man there all 4dr.Man i went back and watched your vid with the wrx again and then this one man your a great driver man and the si is pretty quick i think you should keep at it if i could get a coupe si i would lol love the channel man appreciate how you get different angles and really clear wide footage of the runs dude !

That was awesome man! Really liked the montage before the actual race really nice man! Do you feel any clutch slip? I think some lighter wheels will help too! Also look into 27Won, maybe can get a sponsor from them? I heard the rear motor mount will be really helpful! Keep it up man! Love the Civic Si!

Good vid, Cameron! Glad to see you're getting faster. The better IC will help with those pulls. ;)

I'd talk with your local custom exhaust shop before buying an aftermarket system. They might be cheaper & better for your wheels, bro. Gr8 content btw.👌🏿

Need to get that Intercooler bro, more consistent runs

I know you’ve been having issues with ktuner. But when you were running the basemap 19.5 and 23 psi was the car solid? Or was it acting up even with that tune? Dig your videos man!

Did you ever race with the Phearable 1.5 tune in the 10th gen? Just curious if that would have made a difference...? REALLY wish those si's were faster. I LOVE the way they look!! My Ktuner and tune get here tomorrow! ;-)

If u want to get a faster car look into getting Acura tl type s or a 2017 accord touring those are beast cars just on stock, great video man.

Turbo type s would be killer

I've raced many new civic si's staged or stock in my LSJ ion redline supercharged full bolt ons I'm always winning by atleast 4-5 cars lol 😆😉😅😂.

Cobalt around 2750 pounds.

The reason ya knock control so high is cause ya was racin and revin it up in boosted cars especially on 93 ya have pre ignition (ping) it can blow the engine if the tune doesn’t account for knock

Close one. Can't wait for another rematch when you upgrade the intercooler and headers.

Cameron hi I'm from Trinidad in the Caribbean and I own the cvt 10th gen civic with the Hondata 6psi tune, what is your thought moving to the Ktuner with TSP stage 1 tune?

how mush boost is it pushing now i think i uploaded mine wrong too, but i have the race version since i have the prl cobra race maf

I smoked one of those with my car stock I also erased one of those that was modified in my car was messed up anyway that caused me not to be able to turn my traction control off and my clutch pressure plate was bad so I had to Granny shift it or else it would grind and I still beat him by like six cars

I have a 2019 Si and it’s stock. I want to use PRL. If you don’t mind me asking about how much was all the parts plus the tune. I am not trying to spend ridiculous money but I want a good product as well as a good tune

What RPM are you shifting into 4th gear at? 3rd pulls hard up to red line. 4th gear seems sluggish to me in my 2017

Safer with less power or the implementation of torque and boost preventing damage to the cvt?

Why hasn't the Cobalt gotten a tune from ZZP yet? I have a HHR SS with LDK swap, FBO, full suspension , tune, etc and I walk the new Camero SS. They may have been stock besides exhaust but I walked 2 already so it deff wasn't a fluke.

Hit me up if you need any performance parts for the build. I’m a Saikospeed sales rep and can get you anything you need to add more power! Great videos btw!!!

Buy a boosted B series Honda, you’ll take him out hard in b18c turbo hatch!

Wanted to see the cop catch that BMW

Good job, Cam!

10th gen si Stock can hold 500 wheel but a bit too much for stock motor cause it will eventually blow. Ill say upgrade intercooler and some other parts and try to push at least 350 to the wheel. youll be good for stock motor unless you want super fast car build internal or get supercar lol

Great video keep it up. Couple items I want to mention. Weight reduction is huge especially on rotational mass like the wheels. Doing a forged wheel upgrade should shed some weight and act almost like a tune. More power and more responsive. Also the si are still beating the type r in straight line racing. Look at k20z3allmotor aka eman. He does the type r clutch retro fit for the si. His car has insane power. Last knock is not good. Could be cheap gas. Try shell Chevron or 76. Worst case try adding one or two gallons 100+octane and watch the knock. Good luck

E85 is the secret sauce on this platform

You need to run it with a new GTI or GLI

Well that settled that

ZZP is awesome!! Had there supercharger pulley and some other stuff for my 1995 Buick riviera 3.8 supercharged

Stage 2 coil packs and upgraded computer would prolly make your car alot faster

Did he do a rear bumper swap on his cobalt? Those taillights were from the earlier model supercharged cobalts, iirc they switched the rear and engine in 08

Do you get the no lift shift on the Hondas tune? Both should run using that feature

But I believe the 10 gen is capable of 320 to 360 but not sure what mods you need definitely a cooler and maybe some injectors and e85

Downpipe n u will gap

Enjoying these si vids!

Justin Timberlake

I have a 2008 ss and it's a decent car sure but the interior is complete ass other than the seats. Your car overall is just built better as well. I guess there are some years between them. hehe.

Sir. For me my sugestion. Its better evo.

I hope you find a good acura rsx bro let me know how that goes as i want one as well