2021 Carrying in Storm League Tier List (solo queue) 

Thank you!!

Not all heroes wear capes

Where are the other tiers?

@@ApexWolfPR do it yourself

Truuueeee

This is exactly why i came. I wanted to know a general idea of how the champs work and feel in the game. Im a complete noob

yeah 5 different browsers.. wtf is this guy on? im just going to assume he happened to be comparing them at that moment.. otherwise wtf

@@samsunggalaxytaba3858 max security maybe lol ? anyway who care x')

Li Ming is probably still the same in a 5 man high rank party or a competitive team, is just that this is a solo friendly storm league tier list

try seeker at lvl 7. if your damage is getting blocked, a well aimed Q with mirrorball and seeker will deal with anything in the way.

Li ming still performs like that on high levels. Nanoboost li ming getting her resets can wipe out teams solo, the problem is is that in sologames you dont have that. Meanwhile compared to some other mages her waveclear isnt that good. Also dont listen to the other guy and pick seeker on 7. Calamity is the only choice. But as paradox says, if you are willing to go practice extra and get through their difficulty you can still carry fine with them, whitemane and li ming both.

Lol

"Touch 22 heroes" means absolutely nothing.

@@whatdothlife4660 that's why i said "possible".

Did the tell what heroes the wanna touch?

@@Rejken They didn't say what heroes they were touching or even asked if they wanted to be touched. They just said next week. I'm assuming it's just small numbers changing. We shall see! Here's the thread if you want to see it. www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/kwl276/patch_notes_pls/?

He's a completely different character now. They stimmed all of hi abilites to be faster and stronger, and made him play as a manaless bruiser instead of a split pusher.

Gazlowe is freaking nuts. Instant ban or get every game for me.

@@Saphemeral you mean *mindless bruiser

They took away his coolest bits and made him op in order to nerf him into uncool and shit. Its tyrande all over again.

big same. but most of your S and A heroes get banned anyway, so you gotta work with what you got.

funny enough, i onetricked valeera back in 2019 with 60ish% wr in 100+ games in plat then quit, now i came back and could barely maintain 50%wr in gold and after loss streak of 5 games i switched to w build artanis/d build arthas (both c tier) twotricking for fun and got 3 divisions up in less than 2 pages of match history (can't quite tell you the number of games)

when your main (Illidan) is not even in the list

@@danylosarvas6818 no he's d tier :(

why ?

why ?

why ?

Tell me about it, I climb out and immediately fall back to broze Is like the matchmaking hates me and gives me the trolls, dc'ers and the enemy team gets a tryhard 5 stack

@@Artwr its litterally impossible to stay in bronze wtf do you mean

@@g0rli622 SA server man, I get the boludos... Feeds 1v5, curse in spanish, afk or dc... Repeat... That's their moto

@@g0rli622 I was long time mid to high silver with occasional gold. Already droppend once to B2 (and only fought out with Azmo Orb build when it was still strong). Now I am back there and there is a specific kind of problem there. You may think you do the right thing but it pisses people of so much they tilt, afk, insult you and so on. This makes the games so random. @Arthur Schlemmer Dos Santos You can totally climb out. I am currently in this trouble but I hope to have it done soon (TM). First: Be nice. Report, mute, but never talk bad. Second: Be early on objectives. Better to early than to late. But dont run in and die. Just be there in time (at max 5 seconds after the rest or they will do stupid things) Third: Try to capitalize of your team. You play Ragnaros and have a Muradin? Have that Sulfuras ready on this stun! Play a Malf? Root under hooks of stitches. Fourth (at least as important): Macro. Be there, get XP. Get camps. But dont forget to be there in time. Missing 4 XP globes is nothing compared to a 3 vs 5 with a rage quit afterwards.

@@KVPMD u could also just have friends lmao and be good at the game

I type in chat. otherwise, I just hand out on bot and wait for them to die/win/leave mid and start soaking two lanes.

thats why you play vikings

Interested in this, too. Really a problem. Even though I understand this is for Bronze to Diamond so there is a lot of difference.

Macro and soak is the key to get out of lower leagues. If you manage to get your team ahead in lvl they will most likely win teamfights..and have NO idea why they do. There will be some games where you get pinged and flamed, but just stick with it. The games with the endless aram mid is just a coin-toss anyway, even if you are there. Map-awareness is practically non-existent, so abuse/use things like camp-timing and soaking while the opposite side have the objective. You will make up for most of your teams loss of objectives.

It’s a pain. Just takes alot of typing and pinging but I got it to work usually. Now what’s hard to do is get them to be an effective four man. I would be double soaking against 2 sometimes even 3 enemies and my 4 man would just be afking in lane not taking camps or even pushing the tower.

When game begin you just go double soak. If the enemy do 5v4 your team will usually still win due to tier advantage or lv10. If you macro well and do good timing camps, the enemies are forced to clear them. If they dont clear the camp and go for obj they get serious structure damage which might be even more valuable than the objective itself and push the lane which at some objectives will make you easier to defend (garden of terror, cursed hollow, alterac pass..). When I started playing AFK soaking (which is what im doing when i solo queue with people that dont know about soak or dont/cant soak anyways) and totally ignoring team with leoric, murky, malthael, i was always winning the early game and usually leading to win. (Mostly expect some crazy comebacks with 1 objective comeback win which is why you should not give up till core is dead) Ignoring the team will usually make them angry even at winning phases usually because they die somewhere and they have to spend their death timer chatting and that sometimes can even lead to a lose so ignoring team is kind of random and not safe. The thing is you obviously cant always win because of the team members which might be toxic or something being aggresive and calling you noob for soaking. Its always a benefit to not pick a fight and start arguing and if you already did by a misunderstanding or whatever you need to not go against them and not help them in game etc. So I would say in low ranks its actually macro and try to keep your team friendly (which is usually ruined by a random death while you were winning and this likely makes him think that his mvp is ruined and starts blaming people even for his 10sec death timer etc.) Late game can sometimes be tough with power spikes that the players may not even know and suddenly just comeback take an objective and win. The game is really never over till their core is at 0health. And this is actually something really important as well. You can comeback with good descision making / forcing a good teamfight (catch their team with a bad positioning off guard across the map). I ve lost game with 1%core in the enemy team and about 2-3% too while we had all forts. My opinion and what I did to get our of bronze within silver and got me to gold totally ignoring silver. I recommend watching NotParadox videos to learn the game better tho just like I did and im still doing definitely improving. There are people that are 2k level in hots and dont know about the macro play, so its actually complex to learn the game without the high level guides of gms which will help you learn faster for sure anyways.

@@greatgatorgaming6024 Big same

I feel guldan is really good, my best hero personally. I think W build is where it's at now tho. 😄

This one is for the best champions to carry and climb with(think master yi) vs actually meta champions which is im assuming is icy veins list(think rammus, azir, etc.)

Body Check and cooldown reduction on W from autos at 4. Always take Warlords Challenge, the other one a possibly the worst heroic in the game.

I see so many Artanis being bad at swaps, it's like half of the carrying potential in Artanis. Otherwise he has a 4 sec blind, which you could have sort of on another hero. No escapes, no reliable cc if no swaps, just damage and some tankiness in a bursty meta, not great. With that said, I do have my best winrate on him. Also, he hurts, but can other bruisers and assassins do the same ? Yes.

I have just started playing nobody gave me a raynor man what you on

Same build as the assassin build, except take more 13, 16 talents for your e and maybe grab shield ult talent 20

What's "pepega"?

@@micheltanaka2420 Potato players who are trash. Main features include missing every skill shot, inting as much as possible, taking uneven man fights and dying because of it, never soaking, picking garbage heroes like stitches and not doing anything, and most importantly thinking they are the best players on the team and blaming you for everything when your the only one on the team that’s doing the right thing.

@@greatgatorgaming6024 Oooof, there are so many of them in all tiers... but it seems silver and gold are the worst. I heard Gold is the hardest tier to get out of because of this. I lost count of the times I got players who had zero communication, picked heroes with zero regard to composition, could only play 1 or 2 heroes (not 1 or 2 roles, 1 or 2 HEROES)... and the main defining feature - they think they're so awesome. I do think I'm a pretty good player, but I do my best to not overestimate myself and keep learning. \__''/___/

Yeah gold was a pain to get out of. The key is to just soak xp like a mad man while simultaneously staring at your team and spamming retreat pings when they’re about to do something stupid. And then praying they listen and not all die.

Had 67% and now on a losing streak since 2 weeks. After a heavy winning streak cant even win with him any more

Sad thing is you are not alone in this situation

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Hogger is in SS tier.

Ok, my bad. I stopped watching after he finished with the tierlist. Thanks for the timestamp😁

they are op in high ranks tho, maybe not fenix tho

It is because they are hard to play.

@@Kashiarii zeratul is a lategame hero and implies team to understand it and not feed hard, medivh needs team mates who will use his portal and value a bit positioning, ktz yes he's lategame but for his stacking he's just fine

Ironically, back then he was a gem. He was even better in some regards as he could do a lot of damage and be very hard to kill with his OP heal. I would play with Raynor and would constantly poke with AA. If someone jumped on me, I would disengage and let my knockback and heal save me. His Hyperion did a lot of damage, it still does. His banshees were better, because you could macro them more. They would go all over the map and could pick off stranglers. It was far better ulti than it is now, but was way too hard for supposedly easy hero. Sylvanas also got a massive nerf ot her mind control ulti. I liked her more prior her rework.

He has a really good macro.. But that's basically it, ofc 400 stack balls hit hard, but it's still a 10 sec CD, and during that time he doesn't do much else in a TF, compared for instance with a tassadar, Who can also clear lanes easily but has a way better kit for TF, also azmo is kinda map dependant, so yea, not that great.

He has bad damage without cd. Ball stacking in low league alone is super hard (I see games at level 22 still no 400 stacks (but still has the storm talent for 400 stacks)). Other builds are less dependend but still don't carry that well.

@Sixten Ålin He may be fine but I am sure as hell he is not carrying that well. And that's this tier list about.

@Sixten Ålin I am playing EU and speak specifically about high Bronze to low Gold. His globe build is a carry due to the macro on range. His E is not. It is fine as I said. But you depend on your team, mostly to not dive 4 vs 5 during the push.

@Sixten Ålin Ranged ball is not only a bit stronger. It allows to clear another lane without rotating. You can threaten 5 vs 4 / 4 vs 3 and still clear. E may clear a lane fast enough but you can't argue it has better waveclear.

Just check the tierlist on reddit

You are comparing bruiser to a carry.

@Professor Thinker Well im mostly get MVP still. and there is no way to beat some of those Burst classes with Illidian. even with all the dodge mechanic. and i didnt say most of the time. but abotu 50% of all the other heroes

@Professor Thinker Maybe i need a Team to realy lean it. its hard solo with random people run into 3 Heroes and get slaughtered ^^.. so im mostly kill Camps half of the Game lol. But ill do atlest some good dmg and lot of kills. But yea i agree Leroic is Pain in the ass...

She is great when you have good AA player on your team. Especially Tychus. Stim with D or Odin is damn good. So you can't carry but make it easy to carry for other.

@Sixten Ålin li ming, greymane, diablo, sonya disagree.

Li Ming and Whitemane are in C Genji is in D

If thats some kind of joke just ignore my comment, if not watch the video ;)

I bet you didn't even read it, not even gonna talk, about you never ever touched the character, what ii did talk about. You came here with semi-toxic attitude to prove me wrong. Be a meta slave. All i care... but for the sake of yourself understand the current build, what you're playing. People like you are the real problem. Follow certain stuff blindly and criticize others, becuz they're walking on the ground not in the air. At least tell me why it's wrong with your own opinion not with "xy streamer/content creator said that's bad". You could have approached this conversation way more calmly and friendly, but you decided not to, becuz of your ego.

What?

@@Calx9 I mean why we did'nt seen Mei in CCL?

@@marshunterorbounties2858 Well that is a completely different subject. That answer won't do you any good if you want to know why she's good for solo queuing.

Just a matter of sample sizes

You can 1v1 most other bruisers in the game, and are the best double soaker/camp taker.

@@croket07 Sonya does literally everything he does but better. Maltheal can't do anything better. I see no reason to draft him... ever.

Sonya has worse sustain, is harder to play optimally. I currently love playing sonya but malth can be really strong. Malth is also pretty strong into a sonya.

Malthael can also be a source of healing denial against double support.

@@croket07 I wanted to let your comment sit for a while. Do you still maintain the same opinion now that Sonya has been mounted as a tier S hero on every tier list?

Everyone in Bronze-Plat

@@drummeralex9198 That's insanity.