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2021 Ford F150 5.0 V8 Cylinder Deactivation & Oil Pump Belt Defeated! - It Wasn't All Bad...
- In this video we are going to tell you about three upgraded parts in the 2021 Ford F150 5.0 V8 that make the engine better than the prior gen 2 5.0 V8. These upgrades were made by Ford because of the new cylinder deactivation function. The upgraded kevlar oil pump belt, the high flow billet oil pump, and upgraded piston rings make this motor stronger. We are going to show you how to delete cylinder deactivation and auto stop start in one simple step that is completely reversible. Did Ford give us a better Coyote in the Gen 4 motor and give us an easy way to deactivate it?
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@ThomasLazio
@ThomasLazio 3 года назад
The 5.0 is definitely a great motor I have a 2013 with 270,000 miles on it no problems with the engine just regular maintenance
@bigvol1596
@bigvol1596 2 года назад
Placed my order today for a 2022 f150 5.0 and it’s now an option to cancel Deactivation. X52 is the option and it doesn’t cost anything. The dealer said it’s due to shortage of chips that has caused Ford to offer it. So HELL YEAH
@kepple319
@kepple319 2 года назад
You’re dealer lied to you. 52x is the auto start stop eliminator, meaning your engine won’t shut off and run on aux power when at red lights and stop signs. Dealers want you to believe this rids the engine dripping cylinders but it doesn’t. You know more about the 5.0 from 5 minutes on RU-vid than any ford salesman. They’re all scum and it’s time to let us Americans buy straight from the factory and cut out dealerships.
@cliffmorrison1130
@cliffmorrison1130 2 года назад
Are you sure that’s not the start stop delete?
@William-Bill-Munny
@William-Bill-Munny 2 года назад
@@cliffmorrison1130 it's start/stop...... I just got mine ordered without because of the chip shortage lol. Let's Go Brandon!!!
@ZampostOk
@ZampostOk 2 года назад
Same here, I ordered my 5.0 stx but I just saw auto/stop start delete, I wonder if it also come with deactivation .
@ljimzlj8079
@ljimzlj8079 3 года назад
Just got my 21 f150 stx 5.0 last week. Hope it won't be the last of the v8s. It has tons of power and the engine sounds awesome.
@Bighoss22
@Bighoss22 3 года назад
How much you pay? Looking at trading in my 2014 stx 5.0
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 3 года назад
Have you put premium in it yet? If not do so, it's actually factory tuned for it and pulls timing on 87
@ljimzlj8079
@ljimzlj8079 3 года назад
@@Bighoss22 48k but compared to my 08 f150 its a lariat lol
@xxrealdealxx11
@xxrealdealxx11 3 года назад
Sheesh just picked mine up for $40k today
@xxrealdealxx11
@xxrealdealxx11 3 года назад
21 4x4 STX w the 5.0
@Mark-zi4dd
@Mark-zi4dd 3 года назад
The battery monitoring system does more than decide about activating auto start/stop. It also varies the load on the alternator to provide the right amount of voltage to the battery depending on the battery charge state. With the monitoring system deactivated, the controlling computer thinks the battery voltage is low and will default to max charging all the time and not only cause extra drag on the engine it might over charge the battery.
@adamharris2674
@adamharris2674 3 года назад
Extra drag on engine? maybe. Over charging the Alt? No. Ford BMSs keep the batteries at too low a state of charge anyway.
@yamaholic11
@yamaholic11 3 года назад
yeah I really don't like the idea of doing this...like another comment said you still have to push a button to bypass the warning screen on startup, why not just push the auto start/stop off button and leave the battery monitor alone? Plus I'd bet the Ford Pass smartphone app will complain about it too and you'll end up with a ton of alerts if you defeat the battery monitoring system...
@duke4453
@duke4453 3 года назад
Thanks guys I just ordered a 21 platinum and especially concerned about bypassing the aggravating start stop feature as well as 4-6-8. Great to see to brothers working together and foresure going to have a channel that will be hugely successful soon. Just don't let that successful screw up your brotherly love for each other. Thanks again
@EnriqueRodriguez-ec5tf
@EnriqueRodriguez-ec5tf 3 года назад
I have a 2016 rebel with only 36000 mile and it just started tapping , this cylinder deactivation is such Abad idea. Even if I fix it in still going to be worrying when will it happen again. Thank you for your in put im looking to change to a f150 5.0 . You help take away some fear. Will wait on more up dates from yiu guy. God bless.
@ClubMayview
@ClubMayview 3 года назад
Cylinder deactivation is the reason there isn't a new truck in my driveway this year.
@mattgerb17
@mattgerb17 3 года назад
It's super simple to disable with forscan
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 3 года назад
@@mattgerb17 if be worried that doing that could cause lifter failures like on the hemis and chevys when you disable it without doing the physical delete.
@mattgerb17
@mattgerb17 3 года назад
@@Prestiged_peck physical delete? No idea what that means. The lifters in them were only failing when those cyl were deactivated.
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 3 года назад
@@mattgerb17 the hemi guys I've talked to have told me they fail in v8 mode usually, they cut a lot of oil flow when they go to v8 mode, and when you swap to non-dod lifters you also permanently unblock the oil pressure that used to be used for DOD, and make it pressurize the lifters 24/7. Otherwise why wouldn't they just unplug the solenoids so they can't collapse the lifters and not have to buy a bunch of extra parts?
@johnoberle9750
@johnoberle9750 3 года назад
If only the public at large were educated and cared. Fuck these companies
@jtjtrs8806
@jtjtrs8806 3 года назад
I hope Ford never stops selling the v8
@mmholling87
@mmholling87 3 года назад
It's fastly become the least reliable engine in the F150 lineup. Cylinder deactivation, and a wet belt driven oil pump is not conducive to reliability. Ford is making their trucks harder and harder to work on...trying checking the fluid level on your 10 speed and you'll see my point.
@jtjtrs8806
@jtjtrs8806 3 года назад
@@mmholling87 I respect your single opinion , but I have 2 in my work fleet and brother has 1 , no issues brother , ford for life
@mmholling87
@mmholling87 3 года назад
@@jtjtrs8806 cylinder deactivation and the belt driven oil pump are brand new for 2021. We don't have much data to see their long term reliability. The 10 speeds also has issues. The previous 5.0 and 6 speed were indestructible.
@jtjtrs8806
@jtjtrs8806 3 года назад
@@mmholling87 you just answered your self , not real life data to prove, you talking bad about something with out proof just make you seem like a hater , you might not be but it shows ,
@mmholling87
@mmholling87 3 года назад
@@jtjtrs8806 you honestly think a rubber belt is going to last longer than a pump running off a crankshaft using a steel gear? Name one other engine that uses this design? I'm an actually mechanic and not a contractor working on houses. You have 3 trucks....I've seen thousands.
@FordBossMe
@FordBossMe Год назад
The problem with unplugging that battery monitor cable from that BMS sensor is that now you actually change the charge rate at which it keeps the battery charged in that vehicle now I'm not saying it's not going to be sufficient but the vehicle may see that as an issue and it starts shutting down features online that create an issue for the customer because it can't monitor the battery so it says you know what let's disable the passive entry system let's disable the door keypad let's disable ambient lighting these are things that are not needed for the vehicle to run if we can't see what's going on with the battery Now I've had people try to disable their auto start stop in older vehicles and this was a problem because they go up there and they unplug that or unplug the connector underneath that the trailer brake module to stop the auto start stop and then other things start disabling inside the vehicle and I had to track down what they were doing to put all that bad information to rest because it eventually down the road started affecting other things that were not working on the system Theoretically all you'd have to do is save a junk old battery just enough to get the vehicle to start leave the battery monitor on board with that bad battery let's just say 60 to 70% charge rate that that battery has or life I should say lifespan and it will disable that it'll start stop and active fuel management anyway and then take the regular battery and put it back in the truck and until everything is reset it's going to stay disabled. I don't know I just wanted to put this here so people have more information I don't think people quite understand these systems like they think they do it actually works much more complicated than what most technicians even care to realize but when you get into the description and operation on how the system works there's several pages of what that battery monitor system actually does it's more than just the few things that you mentioned in this video
@michaelpatterson9897
@michaelpatterson9897 3 года назад
Really like your channel guys. Thanks for great Ford content. I'm considering a new F150 and your videos are greatly helpful. I'm also a Mustang guy and have a 2012 Boss 302 (white on black) in the garage with just 25K all original miles. She's a keeper for sure! Stay safe and healthy.
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 3 года назад
Thanks Michael! Don’t keep us a secret. Share our channel with your friends.
@smittysmitty481
@smittysmitty481 3 года назад
Great information here Gents. Solid video!
@JBWHITEGT
@JBWHITEGT Год назад
Cylinder deactivation and autostart stop has been the worst thing to ever come to automobiles
@AKlippert
@AKlippert 2 года назад
So glad mine came with cylinder deactivation deleted. Best thing the chip shortage as ever done for me 🤣.
@GoogleUser-xr2hr
@GoogleUser-xr2hr 2 года назад
How do you know it came with cylinder deactivation deleted?
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
Pretty sure it might have came with auto start stop deleted but cylinder deactivation is still active on the 5.0 V8.
@GoogleUser-xr2hr
@GoogleUser-xr2hr 2 года назад
@@BackroadDriver 👍
@sleepyta
@sleepyta 3 года назад
We didn't have a chain driven oil pump before. It was slipped directly onto the crank
@davidokerman1784
@davidokerman1784 2 года назад
My 2021 5.0 burns oil on every startup. It went from full on the dipstick to add oil after 800 miles. The truck has 3300 miles on it and is going in to the dealer this week.
@uppastdawn7627
@uppastdawn7627 3 года назад
That trick disabled auto start/stop, too? I am sold!
@crabbycripple
@crabbycripple 2 года назад
You guys do a great job, very informative. Thank you!
@lucasblanchard47
@lucasblanchard47 3 года назад
HELL YEAH! This is the kind of content I wanted to see about the 2021 F150 5.0 motor! I’m definitely considering a new F150 instead of waiting even longer to make my Bronco reservation into an order! I really like the SuperCab 4x4 5.0L with the STX package in Lead Foot Grey. Much love from Texas, y’all!
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 3 года назад
Thanks Lucas!
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 3 года назад
We have 2 Broncos coming and we have a ‘96 Bronco build started on the channel.
@troygier991
@troygier991 3 года назад
Thanx I wasn't happy that they also did away with steel sleeves in the cylinder walls. Ford said that BMW helped them with the new process of plasma arc the cylinder walls. Also a oil separator is a plus on this motor.
@davea4037
@davea4037 3 года назад
Keep an eye out for aftermarket dongles to fit between the 2 connectors for that as well. Great info, thx
@maroownr861
@maroownr861 3 года назад
Lol dongles, such a funny word
@kevinmckinley7378
@kevinmckinley7378 3 года назад
I’m pretty sure you can go to auto zone and buy just a trailer plug and put it in and it will deactivate both the cylinder deactivation and start/stop. This is because when you are towing a trailer it won’t do either of those things.
@skullhart
@skullhart 3 года назад
Also, I think 5 star tuning can shut it off with a tune.
@kevinmckinley7378
@kevinmckinley7378 3 года назад
@@skullhart the cylinder deactivation hasn’t been cracked yet. Tuning isn’t available for the 21 yet that I know of.
@anthonygasparini1734
@anthonygasparini1734 3 года назад
Awesome now all Ford needs to do is mate the V8 to the 7.5 kw generator and I am in...from a GM Guy!!
@zebatov
@zebatov 2 года назад
Cylinder deactivation shines when you’re going downhill. When I would go home from Calgary to south of Kelowna (~680km) from a full 98L tank, I would have a quarter tank left. And I wasn’t always easy on the pedal, plus construction zones. Going back was sketchy on a single tank. I think I made it one time.
@lukegodbout
@lukegodbout 2 года назад
I love the 136 litre tank on my 2020, we go to Edmonton to Kelowna on one tank
@gregharvey9135
@gregharvey9135 3 года назад
Great info brothers, this and my jlt catch can will be the first things I do on my 2021 when it gets here, I wish the aftermarket would get going on products for theses trucks, I’m hoping my S&B cold air intake off my 2018 will fit by just blocking the unneeded vacuum port 🤞, great video guys, love your channel so much, cheers
@George-py3yf
@George-py3yf 3 года назад
Got it,,,,, i ordered one for my new f150 when it gets here,,,,, great videos that you guys do !!!!!
@agentfeldy3607
@agentfeldy3607 3 года назад
Have you guys put out a video regarding 3.5 vs 5.0? Quality. Longevity. Etc. Also, thoughts on the hybrid vs. 5.0? Thanks guys. Keep up the good work.
@americantrucknation4891
@americantrucknation4891 3 года назад
Wow, that was easy. My Grandpa would have bought a 2021 with the 5.0, of course that stuff would need to go. My dad may be getting one in a couple years so definitely thank you
@banshee100
@banshee100 2 года назад
or just order it with out start stop
@rdalev1
@rdalev1 3 года назад
Great channel guys! Just picked up my '21 FX4 5.0 yesterday. This will be the first thing I do!
@mattgerb17
@mattgerb17 3 года назад
Look into forscan. Free software and you can disable the battery monitoring system easily with that. Just need an ob2 dongle. You can also enable a lot of other cool features.
@rds990
@rds990 Год назад
Just so everyone knows....the cylinders do NOT stop and start rotating. Only the fuel stops flowing to the cylinder....so the engine life is not compromised at all. The only thing compromised is sound....the exhaust sounds different when you have modified the pipes, and cyls are deactivated.
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq Год назад
Your clueless. Engine life is heavily compromised with dod. History is your friend, try and do some research going back to the 70’s when this idea originally came out, it freezes valves in various positions in those 3 or 4 cylinders
@DW-Truck
@DW-Truck Месяц назад
Great info, also I’ve yet to hear of any problems with this motor due to cylinder deactivation.
@shawnengel8777
@shawnengel8777 3 года назад
Very interesting! It'll be great when/if there comes a plug-in for that connection to deactivate, but keep the warning lights from coming on, etc.
@jameshows5419
@jameshows5419 2 года назад
I have a 2021 STX 4X4 . My truck doesn’t have the stop start feature. As a mater of fact it’s on my window sticker saying it doesn’t have it , of course there was a small charge added to the truck for the elimination of the stop start .
@talmadgehill390
@talmadgehill390 3 года назад
Doesn't putting it in sport mode do the same thing? I noticed that auto start and stop is disabled when you pit it in sport mode
@rdalev1
@rdalev1 3 года назад
Good question? Anybody?
@SurfRinseRepeat
@SurfRinseRepeat 3 года назад
This is my question too
@zonacrs
@zonacrs 3 года назад
Thanks! Just drove home my regular cab short box 4x4 coyote home last Tuesday. Really appreciate the gen 4 update info and quick tip on the cylinder de-activation. Hopefully something like the Range plug in module will be available soon for the F150. As an aside, I ordered it to my specs in November of 2020 and it just got here.
@dangrady0311
@dangrady0311 3 года назад
Great info guys!
@ScoobyDrewski
@ScoobyDrewski 3 года назад
Favorite channel on the tube!! Keep up the awesome content 😎
@RossLougheed
@RossLougheed 3 года назад
Thanks Backroad Driver. I really appreciate this information.
@edf7008
@edf7008 8 месяцев назад
Two questions: 1) This is two years ago, have found any problems since? 2) This is a 5.0 L, does this apply to ALL 5.0L? I have 2013 F150. Thanks
@ccs9271
@ccs9271 7 месяцев назад
It applies to the 2021 and up 5.0 F150’s
@jesuswong5932
@jesuswong5932 3 года назад
Thank you guys you guys are awesome 👍
@DakotaDave17
@DakotaDave17 11 месяцев назад
I just got a 2023 f-150 with a 5.0. it said on my window sticker that I paid 50 bucks to have auto stop/start delete from the factory…Nice
@onefastboi14
@onefastboi14 10 месяцев назад
How do you like it so far? I’m seriously considering a 5.0 F150 possibly tremor package
@DakotaDave17
@DakotaDave17 10 месяцев назад
@@onefastboi14 As a first time Ford owner coming from owning Toyota’s I had a couple concerns at first. It seems like they have worked themselves out and so far really enjoy the truck. The 5.0 with the 10 speed auto has plenty of power and will not disappoint. What I am most blown away by is that after 1100 miles of all city driving I am averaging 19 miles to the gallon! And that’s even all hilly terrain in Pennsylvania. My tundra was averaging 13.7 mpg. With the same driving and terrain. So far…I am happy with the truck.
@blackcoffee730
@blackcoffee730 8 месяцев назад
​@onefastboi14 exactly what I am considering and I came from Toyota too
@mbb-pr4zc
@mbb-pr4zc 7 месяцев назад
@@DakotaDave17I have grown up inside a ford dealership. Whole working career. The new 5.0 is supposed to be pretty durable. Mechanics don’t like the spray on cyl walls etc because they are non machinable to repair with the spray on. The up side is that unmodified and spending it’s life commuting or towing a boat that’s less than 50% of tow capacity… it’ll last me quite a while. Cyl deactivation is a highly debatable subject due to the measures ford took to correct known issues. I took the gamble. Truck runs like a scalded dog.
@ItIsColdHere
@ItIsColdHere 5 месяцев назад
Bought my 2023 5.0 in December and love it. Solid engine/power and build so far. I like it more than the 2.7 F150 I drove for a year before this. And I really liked the 2.7. I just like the 5.0 more.
@lucasblanchard47
@lucasblanchard47 2 года назад
Coming back to this video because I just got my own 2021 F-150 XL SuperCab STX 4x4 5.0 in Lead Foot Gray! Definitely gonna do this and other things too! Gonna watch your exhaust video again next. Much love from Texas!
@BeanoNoir
@BeanoNoir 2 месяца назад
While I'm not a proponent of cylinder deactivation, in overhead cam engines, they simply use a cam profile change to institute it. It doesn't require the fancy valve lifters in an pushrod setup that often fail causing damage to the cam lobes. OHC engines either directly accurate the rocker arms, or use direct tappets. I just feel it's rather pointless when VVT already retards timing on all cylinders at the same time, also reducing fuel burn. Since 3rd gen, the 5.0 just isn't as durable a motor in general. The 2.7 may have an oil pump belt, but I've never seen one fail early personally, and it isn't common at all. Everything else about that motor is built like a tank, and stock to stock, it will hand a 5.0 it's lunch. That being said, the 5.0 is still light years better than any has motor from GM or Dodge.
@Monacheman-4x4
@Monacheman-4x4 Месяц назад
I was under the impression that the 4th gen 5.0 motor was improved and had solved some of the issues in earlier generations. I am asking since I was considering the purchase of a new XLT with the 5.0 V8 while they are still available.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Месяц назад
I just bought a 2024 Nissan Titan and that 5.6L Endurance V8 to me is wayyyyyyy more robust than that 2.7L EcoBoost V6 and not to mention the Titan is extremely underrated as well.
@Monacheman-4x4
@Monacheman-4x4 Месяц назад
@@CJColvin You know, I also just purchased a 2024 Titan a week ago and will be taking it down Hwy 395 to see how it does. Very comfortable and nice features and anxious to see what kind of mileage I can eek out of it. I only wish it had a console shifter with manual shift mode. The column shifter is okay but not quite as ergonomic for manual shifting. For just a week, it does seem like a lot of truck for the money.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Месяц назад
@Monacheman-4x4 Agreed and not to mention they're extremely underrated as well.
@Monacheman-4x4
@Monacheman-4x4 Месяц назад
@@CJColvin Yes, and I just don't get that. I cannot understand why they did not sell more
@ryantalbot2831
@ryantalbot2831 2 года назад
I've got a 2022 5.0 KR on order, and only way I was able to get it scheduled to be built is if I added the stop/start delete option...wonder how that plays into the battery management system or if I'll even have that plug.
@JM-fb4kz
@JM-fb4kz 3 года назад
Very interesting guys. I love that you have man on the “inside”.
@dannyc4890
@dannyc4890 3 года назад
This is GREAT info ! Thank You !
@andrewjacobson556
@andrewjacobson556 3 года назад
Unplugging a wire one I can access its 2021 I can deal with that!! Nice job fella's!!
@ricosandoval3774
@ricosandoval3774 3 года назад
Poor Sam. Workers Compensation my brother.
@buster2106
@buster2106 3 года назад
16' chevy for two yrs,then new 19' tundra TRD, but now I'm eyeing the lariat F150 just undecided on the 5.0 or 3.5
@chrism.728
@chrism.728 3 года назад
Get the Coyote 5.0L, you won't be disappointed.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin 3 года назад
@@chrism.728 I totally agree brother.
@williamgleaves1954
@williamgleaves1954 3 года назад
On Auto Start Stop, you replaced 1 button push with a different button push.
@yamaholic11
@yamaholic11 3 года назад
exactly! It's not that tough to just hit the auto atop button when you get in the truck, and actually if I'm driving through the city or any area with a lot of stop lights I turn it back on since it makes a noticeable difference in fuel economy - the starter is designed for auto start/stop, no reason to completely disable it
@thediydentalchairguy7269
@thediydentalchairguy7269 3 года назад
What is the wear life of the belt versus a chair system? I got 392,000 out of my original motor and chain.
@tylerwelch4224
@tylerwelch4224 3 года назад
Love your content guys, just got my 21 5.0 last week and love it, I’m just curious, where do y’all get your information on the cylinder deactivation? Thanks!
@clay3129
@clay3129 Год назад
So I read in the comments this doesn’t disable the cylinder deactivation, but running in sport mode does. So why not run in sport mode 24/7? What are the disadvantages of this? Why buy a tuner or supercharger when you can just use sport mode? New 22 v8 owner here
@scottyV1000
@scottyV1000 Год назад
Only drawback I see is worse gas mileage since sport mode holds gears longer for higher rpm.
@jasonk4855
@jasonk4855 3 года назад
Just a thought but how did you verify it isn't deactivating any cylinders now?
@Chris-yh6iq
@Chris-yh6iq 3 года назад
I tried it. It’s still doing it on my v8. My exhaust starts clunking when it kicks in.
@ParhelionGame
@ParhelionGame 3 года назад
I just tested this on my 2021 F150 STX 5.0 and can confirm that it does indeed disable auto stop/start. It DOES NOT; however, disable Cylinder Deactivation. I have a muffler DELETE and can hear it kick in and out as clear as day. So back to the drawing board for that.
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 3 года назад
I've been testing this more myself. I took a couple hour trip out of state. I thought that I could tell it was activating some at highway speeds but not so much at lower speeds, say up to 30 maybe 40 mph. Can you tell it's activating at slower speeds still? For me, it seems to not activate around town any longer.
@ParhelionGame
@ParhelionGame 3 года назад
@@BackroadDriver When I first unplugged the battery module and drove it, I thought for certain it was not activating at low speeds (20-40mph). But after going a few miles it started kicking in normally at all speeds it seems to kick in at (Basically above 15mph). So I think it was just the cold engine keeping it from kicking in. I'm beginning to think only some software intervention will disable it permanently.
@lightning9279
@lightning9279 3 года назад
I'm lost. They talk about cylinder deactivation but the comments say it doesn't deactivate the cylinder deactivation.
@greghale717
@greghale717 3 года назад
Unplugging the BMS monitor will disable auto start/stop, but I am not sure it disables cylinder deactivation. How would it?
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 3 года назад
It didn’t for long.
@johnoberle9750
@johnoberle9750 3 года назад
You can’t change the failing mechanism made for cylinder deactivation by simply unplugging it. The nuts and bolts of it are still there. Might as well use the engine the way it is designed to work.
@toastsniffer
@toastsniffer Год назад
Can you set sport mode in forscan as the default drive setting to accomplish this?
@bradzimmerman3171
@bradzimmerman3171 Год назад
Stop-start delete plug in from Seattle business available
@Johnsmith46392
@Johnsmith46392 6 месяцев назад
I wonder what the carbon footprint of having to buy new engines is when they wear out 100,000 miles early.
@eastonwilliams1722
@eastonwilliams1722 5 месяцев назад
Carbon is good for the environment for one and two these tyrants are flying around in business jets and driving in armored tahoes and bentleys while telling us we need to be green
@thelifescout8335
@thelifescout8335 3 года назад
I’ll be interested in seeing what the GEN COM line is signaling that alternator to charge at after leaving the IBS unplugged
@Darylrb1983
@Darylrb1983 3 года назад
I'm wondering if you can use FORSCAN to disable the cyl deactivation. Edit: I JUST watched him talk about FORSCAN lol
@mattgerb17
@mattgerb17 3 года назад
Pretty sure you can already disable it on the 21s.
@brigittedave
@brigittedave 3 года назад
Great video guys
@rogerspalding5673
@rogerspalding5673 3 года назад
Thanks so much gentlemen! I have hated cylinder deactivation even since it was invented. Can you believe that GM has still not been able to come up with a better solution for the Corvette? I'm a Ford guy, but I do love the Corvette; all Corvettes (Mary Barra has ruined that company). One question about the F-150: will unhooking the negative terminal clip on the 5.0 have any effect on the ProPower lithium battery or generator, if you get that option too? I like the 3.5 twin turbo PowerBoost, but I would prefer to get the V8 if at all possible. I just found you guys today. Keep up the great work.
@davidsmith205
@davidsmith205 3 года назад
Great channel. Looking at the VMP superchargers because of this channel. Crazy question but how much was your gas mileage effected on the WOLF when you made the switch. That’s assuming you have driven a full tank of gas without Multiple burnouts.
@JackZeroZ
@JackZeroZ Год назад
I'd advice caution. This isn't some mechanical fix like a heater core valve fix for Ram trucks that is clear in consequences. Don't mess with sensors because you don't know what's behind the scenes and if codes were written in ways that handles missing sensor data. Modern car's electronics are complex, you might create a problem elsewhere down the road. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies perfectly to electronics.
@andrue17
@andrue17 3 года назад
On my ram hemi 8 speed i just put it in manual mode and scroll up to 8th gear and the transmission shifts through all its gears like normal and bypasses cylinder deactivation. I wonder if you can do it on the fords? Trucks been running on 8 cylinders since I drove it off the lot. To me cylinder deactivation is just more headaches and really doesn't save you fuel. I still get 21 mpg doing 75mph on a road trip and between 16-17 mpg in the city.
@greghale717
@greghale717 2 года назад
That trick doesn't work in the GM's with AFM/DFM. I doubt it would in the Ford. in the Ram, its sweet!
@rubyv4s
@rubyv4s 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, like always good stuff guys. I’m definitely doing this right this second. Has Sam had a chance to test the falcons while towing yet? Cheers
@michaelholliday6037
@michaelholliday6037 2 года назад
I just pray by the time I get my new Ford 150 that V-8’s are still available.
@rolandburt2856
@rolandburt2856 3 года назад
Great information. Knew you would get it. Time for the super charger! (P.S. Did Sam exfoliate? He looks extra handsome today.)
@nickpavlovich2312
@nickpavlovich2312 3 года назад
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ABOUT 2018 - 2020 5.0 LITER F-150 ENGINE OIL CONSUMPTION.
@TheSaintshockey03
@TheSaintshockey03 2 года назад
The belt is similar to Harley Davidson drive belt... Deactivation cylinders turned into a failure for General Motors years ago because of the wear from firing and not firing cylinders and I believe I heard that Sport Mode turns it off while driving
@diyi75
@diyi75 2 года назад
I love Fords, I have two brothers, so I subscribed 👍🏾
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
Thanks Archie!
@slav1north764
@slav1north764 3 года назад
Did the new rings solve the oil burning issue.
@johnhill9910
@johnhill9910 2 года назад
Is the 2nd gen 6r80 the most reliable set up out of the 4 gens? Is the 10 speed good now?
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
We love the 10R80…
@rollingprobablecause19
@rollingprobablecause19 3 года назад
Great video ...are you saying the oil pump gears ready for high horsepower applications now? No upgrade required like you did on Brad's truck ?
@kymofungi2986
@kymofungi2986 3 года назад
Can you just pull the deactivation switch out of the dash and tie the wires together Then put the switch back in?I saw that done on a different vehicle
@joemiller8768
@joemiller8768 6 месяцев назад
My 21 5.0 came with the auto start/stop delete option, I just have a blank where that button goes. This video equates cylinder deactivation to the battery monitoring system to the auto start/stop feature. Question is, does that mean I do not have cylinder deactivation?
@thegreatrelease4539
@thegreatrelease4539 3 года назад
IMO if it can stop a bullet I’d be surprised if it couldn’t hold up on tension pressure
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 Год назад
Ford always insisted that wet belts are solid and they proved them out yet I've seen those belted disintegrate on the 1.0L Ecoboost. It's cheap and that's why Ford went with it. They are confident the belt will last the warranty period, that's it.
@krisvold32
@krisvold32 3 года назад
would they just get the 6.8 pushrod v8 out already
@stevenamos513
@stevenamos513 2 года назад
I just ordered a 2021 F 150 5.0. (in Sept 2021)... On the order form I deleted Auto Stop/Start. Will this effect cylinder deactivation? Does it void the warranty? Thanks for the videos!
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 3 года назад
Cylinder deactivation is good, here's how to bypass it so it doesn't destroy your engine. Disable your battery monitor so you get to click OK every time you start up instead of clicking the other button every time. As a bonus you don't have to be bothered by an alert telling you that your battery or alternator is starting to go bad, you get to enjoy the surprise no-start!
@bobbybarnes1652
@bobbybarnes1652 3 года назад
Billions of miles have been driven without vehicles telling people when their alternator or battery was "going bad", and nobody died. Put your big boy pants on.
@billycheek4220
@billycheek4220 3 года назад
the 2nd button is start/stop button that u no longer have to hit
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 3 года назад
@@bobbybarnes1652 I didn't say anyone would die, put your big boy pants on and understand that it's dumb to eliminate something that might keep you from being stranded. Billions of miles were driven without any of the comfort or safety features we have in today's cars, by your logic we shouldn't care about any of them.
@bobbybarnes1652
@bobbybarnes1652 3 года назад
@@DonziGT230 Nobody's gonna be stranded. We all own cell phones. Call a tow truck. Meanwhile, don't wreck your engine with cylinder deactivation. You might want to unwad those panties, big boy.
@hillrunner2
@hillrunner2 Год назад
Great information on this engine thanks for sharing this information. Great video.
@luischavarria1327
@luischavarria1327 11 месяцев назад
I wonder if you can disable that feature with ForScan
@curtis1951
@curtis1951 3 года назад
I think they upgraded ring packs because they've been burning oil since 18'. But then again you said in another video that yours is using oil and it's a 2021. so maybe they didn't upgrade them enough?
@markt7291
@markt7291 Год назад
This never make sense to me and I’m a logical guy who’s done a lot of work on engines. I have two 5.0 F150’s 2012 and 2017. Why on earth would I want to run 4 cylinders instead of 8. If you have 8 guys working on a project and you tell 4 guys to go home you will wear those 4 out early. Let and 8 be an 8 and share the work . The engine will last longer. It’s as bad as the stupid shutting off and on at the lights all the time. The starter will not last. Oh and ask Toyota about timing belts on their v8’s back in the day. Has to be changed every 90k. Expensive job. These engineers have short memories. GM never mastered their engine deactivation issues for 20yrs and im sure Ford has it figured out. 😂😂😂. Laughable.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 Год назад
Some guys try to tell themselves that it won't have problems because it's DOHC instead of pushrod but it's not as though Honda hasn't had problems with cylinder deactivation. I mean, Ford hasn't even mastered cam phasers and timing chains after how long, they aren't going to perfect DOD right off the bat. Ford's 1.0L Ecoboost uses a wet belt to drive the oil and I have seen a sickening number of those belts shredded to bits. Why is it so hard for Ford to just do the right thing if they want the oil pump down in the pan? Put a double roller chain on it at the very least. I'm sure all of us would gladly pay the cost difference to get an engine with beefy long lasting chain drive at least.
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq Год назад
GM been playing this game for 5 generations now, over 65 yrs, still no good. It’s just a bandaide to meet CAFE while making the engine 50% less reliable. Ford added this to their 2022+ V8 trucks. I don’t think it’s on the mustang V8 yet.
@coyotethomas5.048
@coyotethomas5.048 2 года назад
How is it going with the cylinder deactivation being unplugged? I’d like to know if you have had any problems with that? Thanks for your time
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! We made this video quite a while ago. We have figured out that unplugging that connector doesn't fully deactivate cylinder deactivation. The computer figures it out and it comes back on. We are working on an update video and will probably remove this one from our channel. We have mentioned this in some of our videos since but not everyone watches them all.
@BoostedF150
@BoostedF150 3 года назад
Great info
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 3 года назад
@Boosted F-150 in the house! Thanks for the love!
@rommelgallego2943
@rommelgallego2943 3 года назад
Thanks Gents! That’s some dangerous mods 😃....
@richardschroder5770
@richardschroder5770 3 года назад
Great video, did you finally give your truck a name? I still say Space Ghost!
@NunyaBusiness...
@NunyaBusiness... 18 дней назад
Yeah, this turns off stop start. It has nothing to do with cylinder deactivation. This video needs to be amended or removed.
@johnoberle9750
@johnoberle9750 3 года назад
Looks like a compelling reason to buy the six cylinder eco boost instead. These new trucks and the prices they want are not worth it.
@bobbybarnes1652
@bobbybarnes1652 3 года назад
Should have chosen a better career path.
@raymondclass6794
@raymondclass6794 3 года назад
we Need trucks not status symbols
@johnoberle9750
@johnoberle9750 3 года назад
@@raymondclass6794 Yes drop the box height back down to where you can work it without being a mountain goat. It’s all about looks now.
@Brightleaf_Auto
@Brightleaf_Auto 3 года назад
What's the service life of that drive belt and expected labor rate for someone who who have to have a shop replace it?
@montefiveforty1
@montefiveforty1 3 года назад
I would say when it leaves you stranded and destroyed your engine it's time to replace it.
@handsolo6823
@handsolo6823 5 месяцев назад
I have a 2021 silverado with the same, I bought a deactivation plug in module and to also stops the auto stop. And
@marshie1337
@marshie1337 3 месяца назад
Just did an AFM delete on mine. FYI, the lifter design is the problem. Those modules do deactivate AFM, but installing an AFM delete kit + ecm tune is the only way to actually prevent lifter failure. Statistically you probably won't have an issue but if you do, Texas speed basic dod/afm delete kit and a tune from mailordertuner if you want stock drivability and v8 power always on.
@darrellheyman1515
@darrellheyman1515 2 года назад
What kind of exhaust do you have on this truck? Sounds great
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
Check out this video where we installed the exhaust. It's by AWE Tuning. At the time there were no exhausts ready that fit the 21 f150. AWE is in the prototype stage for their new exhaust to fit the 21s.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vxbwEkiLIIA.html
@elihernandez330
@elihernandez330 3 года назад
Another thing that ford engineers have said as well is to use a slightly thicker oil like 30 weight or preferably 40 weight. 50 is recommended only for heavy towing or track use because of the engine load causing the bearings to possibly be split out and the film shearing. Ford for the mustang gt say to use 20 weight but a guy took it on the track but didn't use 50 weight and ford said racing is allowed but for that application the wrong oil was used. If you pay to get a bolt on supercharger on your 5.0 from ford they'll switch your oil cap to say 50 weight even though they didn't change anything else inside, just threw a bolt on in. That really tells you everything. Overhead cam engines can use thicker oil than the overhead valve in my new truck. I ran both 10 and 15w-40 in my old f150 instead of 5w-20 piss and that's the reason why my 5.4 lasted beyond 200k and without any oil burning or valve train issues at all. Ford later admitted that the thin oil is crap but they had to for cafe standards. In south America and Australia where they didn't recommend 20 weight for that exact engine is where they didn't have issues like over here. Thank goodness I used my intuition and still used thicker oil. I'd highly recommend ford's diesel oil for these gas engines or shell rotella. The anti wear package on both is one of the highest you can get at any walmart. And no diesel oil doesn't harm engines that dont burn oil. If it burns oil it will accelerate the poisoning of the cat but the both the anti wear package and viscosity of the oil is what prevents that in the first place however if you start using it before it burns oil. so do so if you actually care about your engine. Dont if you'd rather have been counter Gov regulations ruin your engine.
@edf7008
@edf7008 8 месяцев назад
What can you tell me about the new "spray on" cylinder sleeves? Are they holding up or are they wearing out fast? I'm looking at a new(er) F150 5.0 V8
@mikey27437
@mikey27437 8 месяцев назад
Same here. Contemplating buying one while the incentives last. Not much info out there. I work for Ford manufacturing, some of our guys had issues with oil consumption on their 2018 - 2019s one had an engine replaced under warranty. No one had reported on a later model yet.
@katkiller5647
@katkiller5647 7 месяцев назад
Check with the imports they been doing it for years
@petebelmonte4578
@petebelmonte4578 2 года назад
Do those same upgrades pertain to the 3.5 Echo boost, 2019 F150 lariat FX4
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
Just the 5.0.
@Mcfly0856
@Mcfly0856 3 года назад
I ordered a 21’ to get away from the timing/vct issues that plague these engines. My 19’ had the tensioners replaced at 2k miles and now at 35k it’s starting to make the same noise again.
@relicaro21
@relicaro21 2 года назад
Same here, I love the 3.5 ecoboost for its power but it is pretty unreliable. I guess i am going for a 5.0 on a new one.
@cluelesssam6975
@cluelesssam6975 2 года назад
Is oil consumption still a issue with these engines and is Ford still building the 5.0 with plasma cylinders if this is the right term thanks
@BackroadDriver
@BackroadDriver 2 года назад
It is still around but at varying levels…
@Crentshen
@Crentshen 3 года назад
Ford Essex engine(5.0L) worker I personally hate the new look of the 5.0’s
@dc9mm2
@dc9mm2 3 года назад
How long is this belt for the oil pump rated to last? Miles/years? Sure it can take 1200HP but how long will it last?
@brandonclendening93
@brandonclendening93 3 года назад
It doesn't. I'm a ford tech. They blow apart and lock engines up even during low mileage vehicles. Massive issue right now
@mmholling87
@mmholling87 3 года назад
@@brandonclendening93 yep, and the belt touches oil too. Ford made a big mistake on this one.
@montefiveforty1
@montefiveforty1 3 года назад
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