2021 Genesis G80 First Impressions; Nitrogen in Tires: Is It Worth the Cost? | Talking Cars

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We recently got a chance to drive the 2021 Genesis G80 at our test track, and we share our impressions on how the sedan from Hyundai's luxury brand performed, as well as how it compares to other vehicles in its class, like the Audi A6, BMW 5 Series, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, and Volvo S90. Filling your tires with nitrogen is an option offered by many dealerships and mechanics these days, usually for an added expense. We talk about whether this is something to consider, as well as if it's safe to put regular air into a tire filled with nitrogen. Winter weather is on its way (if it hasn't already arrived where you are!), so we discuss the best way to prep your car for hitting the road when there's ice and snow. We also give advice about replacing a Hyundai Elantra with an Audi A4 (or other alternatives like the Mazda3, Honda Civic Sport, or Toyota Camry?!) And with an increasing number of cars on the road having the ability to update their software, how is Consumer Reports adjusting its testing program to stay on top of the latest versions and features? Do the scores change when a car with GM's Super Cruise or vehicles from Tesla receive a new update? We discuss how we are adapting our testing to account for these new technologies, and more.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:33 - Vehicle Winter Prep and Winter Driving Tips
06:53 - 2021 Genesis G80 First Impressions
13:30 - Question #1: Is an Audi A4 a good replacement for a Hyundai Elantra ?
19:41 - Question #2: What are the advantages of filling up tires with nitrogen instead of air?
23:42 - Question #3: How is CR adapting its test to account for new technologies?
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@Mercer1012 3 года назад

The tech isn't hard to use, you're just old.

@dannylee1399 3 года назад

THANKS YOU! Honestly, NO ONE is going to know how to use every feature, activate all those driving assist mechanisms, right off the bat. Learning any car’s infotainment system does take time and getting used too, but it’s not rocket science. 🙄

@dinoshavbabies 3 года назад

The reason Nitrogen is used in aircraft is because it is a more stable gas and not affected by temperature changes as much as air. Aircraft systems have to maintain correct pressure to work just as well at 70 degrees on the ground and -40 degrees at 40,000ft.

@ggeiser3 3 года назад

Wow! You guys reminded me of why I left OhICEo for south Florida in March of 1974! All that talk of snow tires and frozen stuff on the windshield! Thanks for that. 😺 PS: I own a G80 and love it. Lots of tech but no more than my Santa Fe has! Hyundai has been advancing a lot in the past few years.

@DJL78 3 года назад

Who is the old man complaining about gadgets and gizmos?

@rightlanehog3151 3 года назад

@davidm5707 3 года назад

Malik, a couple of years ago, I had my heart set on getting an off-lease 2017 Mercedes C-class. Then I looked at the cost to own versus mainstream brands and gave up on it. I wound up getting an off-lease Mazda6. For the same price you're going to pay for an A4, you could get a loaded, fun to drive 6 Grand Touring. And they're very reliable.

@emiliorescigno 3 года назад

Ironically, the only Model 3 they've tested is a configuration that hasn't been sold for over a year XD

@snakerb 3 года назад

WHO cross shops an Audi with a Camry????? I would understand suggesting maybe a Lexus, but a Camry? 😂😂😂😂

@nattga 3 года назад

I do miss driving German cars but damn I do not miss owning them.

@millefune 3 года назад

Nitrogen filling on automotive tires is a scam tire shops use to get more money. Sad thing is that some tire shops only do Nitrogen filling, so you don't have a choice whether or not to pay the extra amount when you get new tires.

@garren588 3 года назад

I love Talking Cars, but good Lord, anything that has updated tech they complain about. Can y’all please catch up to the times and realize that people are buying and enjoying these new cars with all this tech and electronic shifters? It’s becoming a bit frustrating.

@dylans2669 3 года назад

what, no. Those are terrible. You have to look down so see what gear your in. Its fundamentally stupid. the driver should keep their eyes on the road. Those things are hot garbage!

@Coronet_1969_ 3 года назад

20:31 Look at Ryan knowing the makeup of the atmosphere....who knew that it was 78% nitrogen? Not me.....

@RonaldS-cs7un 3 года назад

SORRY BUT i didnt like your impressions about the new G80, and is not a HYUNDAI, is a GENESIS

@robertehlers3757 3 года назад

I live in Florida and frequently drive up north for winter holidays. Before nitrogen was introduced for auto tires, this significant change in ambient temperature would inevitably cause the low tire pressure warning lights to illuminate and I would have to add air to the tires. But once my dealer started using nitrogen in the tires, that problem disappeared. Consequently, I have been a strong supporter of nitrogen in car tires. This resistance to temperature change was not discussed on the program. What is CR's response to nitrogen's advantage that has been proven in my experience?

@AmericanBusinessman422 Год назад

Non-existent results in scientific tests. You are just a sucker for marketing and a placebo effect.

@javierreyes-qv5cb 3 года назад

Go Genesis!

@PugLifeRocks 3 года назад

Anyone remember a manufacturer that raises their price $5,500 after introducing a refresh? No ones talking about this. 2020 G80 msrp $42,550 and 2021 msrp $47,700 base models. Still going to buy one, but wow what a price increase!!

@normt430 3 года назад

I own a 2018 CT6 also. Great driver for a big car.

@marekw.9816 3 года назад

Wouldn't nitrogen in the tires extend the life of the pressure sensors inside the tires(by eliminating moisture)?

@Modeltrainscarsstereos614 3 года назад

How can I get a consumer reports hoody like jakes

@bobcraft9597 3 года назад

Once the car is set up for the everyday driver there is no problem with the tech.

@kwn141 3 года назад

That Genesis looking smokin hot. Those Korean brands:Kia/Genesis/Hyundai are doing extremely impressive while other brands (especially Japanese) struggling.

@toronado455 3 года назад

Hello kitty Charlie!😃😺

@apache-yaquibrown4060 3 года назад

Expecting your first snowflakes. Yet it is 90 degrees here today. Great video.

@mikemassino 3 года назад

You should tell us where "here" is for this to make sense

@DigitalYojimbo 3 года назад

Pretty sure there were snowflakes in california since the early 2000's

@LoganMaclaren 3 года назад

Well, when talking about the A4 you guys forgot the Volkswagen GLi... It's much of the A4, but significantly less to buy it and to service it.

@borninhk1 3 года назад

For CR re Malik: why didn't you mention Genesis G70? Excellent reliability too, and same class as Audi A4!

@chrissykes2720 3 года назад

Or Kia Stinger!

@normt430 3 года назад

CT4 from Cadillac. The CT4-V just won Car & Driver comparison.

@mitchellbarnow1709 3 года назад

Costco tire centers have free self-service electronic nitrogen tire filling available.

@Buc_Stops_Here 3 года назад

Too bad the Genesis GV80 and G80 have been "de-technologized" coming to America. In Australia and in other countries, you get the new "virtual reality" mapping system. However, in the USA it was dropped due to legal concerns. You can thank the lawsuits of America scaring Hyundai/Genesis from launching the technology in the USA.

@RonaldS-cs7un 3 года назад

i loveeeee GENESISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

@ronniejaye1 3 года назад

I had nitrogen in my Scion from new. I only drove the car summers so the original tires were on for over 7 yrs. When the tires finally wore out I put new ones on. The original tires after 7 yrs only lost less than 2 pounds pressure in 7 yrs . So I would say it isn't useless to use nitrogen in certain circumstances.

@rogerthat24 3 года назад

As long as the dealer doesn't charge for it, it's all good.

@alfreddeneumann 3 года назад

This is the first I've heard someone complain about the info tech in the G80. Maybe it's the reviewer? And a Camry for an A4??? Sheesh

@tdkleffman 3 года назад

Gosh, talk about price inflation! I had a 2015 Genesis with v6/HTRAC that listed for 42K! :-(

@LoganMaclaren 3 года назад

That inflation may came handy for you when you have to sell... ;-)

@iSlandeRon 3 года назад

Yeah, I've owned 4 kia's and them and Hyundai ( genesis ) are great cars but to me the value aspect is no more. They have become more and more expensive. Only value left is the warranty.

@PocketAces500 3 года назад

hey genesis, it's time for a 2 seater sports car!

@kurtybee2 3 года назад

I live in MN. Never take my scraper out

@normt430 3 года назад

It is the freeze/thawing just south of you that is the problem.

@manthony225 3 года назад

The Genesis must be better- looking in person cuz it looks cheesy in this video. Awsome to see Ryan's a cat person!

@rightlanehog3151 3 года назад

Malik, Listen to Jennifer. Assuming that you fit inside a 'Toyota New Jockey Architecture' vehicle, get yourself a Corolla hatchback with a manual. It is highly probable that it will provide you with an engaging, economical, dependable and practical means of transport for many years to come.

@Dood1es 3 года назад

Zoom bombed by Charlie.

@jacobyo99 3 года назад

Funny how you people are the only ones complaining about the infotainment system. No one else has an issue.

@miguelircontar 3 года назад

Hey Charlie the cat 🐱 😀

@roguedogx 3 года назад

To Malik. I know it's tempting, but don't do it. I own a platform cosin to that car, a VW GTI, and even though it's not a premium brand, it still finds ways to kick me in the head and run off with my wallet quite often. Right Covid-19 hit my company my car needed a timing chain, it snapped quickly and took the entire head of the motor out with it. The total cost was $6k but I got lucky because I found a shop that would do it for "cheap". on the audi you're looking at it would be more like $8-10k and that's if you get lucky and don't crack a piston, which requires a whole new engine. I was lucky, I was saving up money for something else that didn't pan out and ended up draining my savings to pay the bill. That might not be the case for you. I also had pretty expensive repair bills before then as well. a spare key was $200, four new tires cost me close to a grand (aftermarket wheels that fit only High performance tires), my front brakes and a brake flush cost me close to a grand, and so on. in short, I spend almost as much maintenance for the car in 2 years of ownership. Had I known that, I would have gone for a new Toyota Yaris iA and called it day. My advice, if you can pay cash for the car, and don't mind walking away if it goes kaboom, go for it. but otherwise stay away from "excotic deals" there is no such thing as a cheap exotic car, you just end up paying the shop owner instead of the dealer. Also, I ended up picking my GTI over the A4. Both had made my short list while I was looking for a new-too-me car. After test driving the Audi, I decided I didn't like it. My GTI was way more fun, and I didn't want to eat my hands every time I changed the radio station in the VW, because it doesn't have MMI. A system that seems designed exclusively to make me tear my hair out. If you do want to cheat a little, you might want to check the price of parts and labor, but the Hyundai Genesis (the one that would later become the G80) might be a good way to get a luxury car without really getting the label, and all that comes with it. I think the second generation might be close to your price range, although you might not be able to get the V8 or AWD. But the car has so much standard equipment, that's all your missing out on. but also consider the mazda 3, a very good deal in this segment, and provides most of what the audi does at a lower price.

@smartkid1201 3 года назад

Maybe he would like a 1998 Cadillac Deville. 🙄

@RonaldS-cs7un 3 года назад

am very dissapointed

@mtnx7 3 года назад

Let's not sugar coat it. Never buy a German car that's out of warranty.

@manthony225 3 года назад

Right. You're just getting a car someone leased to avoid the money pit years.

@anaphylaxis2548 2 года назад

Lease one for a few years, enjoy it, then give it back.

@antonzhloba6929 3 года назад

Comparing accord and camry with an A4.. this is just hilarious! They are nowhere near in terms of comfort, technology, and handling. Actually, 2017 A4s are pretty reliable overall. They kept the same drivetrain for over a decade and kept perfecting that same 2.0 engine. Repairs are not that expensive if you are a car enthusiast and know how to DIY.

@mrsj1417 3 года назад

Somebody just bought an Audi...the Accord isn't reliable anymore, but it's just as good as an Jettaudi...er I mean A4 otherwise.

@RatKing59 3 года назад

So then is it reliable or not? You’re referencing repairs for a car that’s only 3 years old. If it require repairs in the first five years (/60K miles) of normal ownership, let’s not call that a reliable vehicle.

@snakerb 3 года назад

I honestly laughed when they suggested those cars 😂

@ArchivalPictures 3 года назад

Compare the cost of an A4 extended warranty to an Accord and I think that will show where the higher risk is.

@robertmontgomery7158 3 года назад

Jennifer is such an accomplished and elegant speaker. Smooth. Great speaker. Does she really need the guys? The guys are just window dressing. She can easily do their work. The two men feel like tokenism gone bad.

@edwardkim2579 3 года назад

The lady needs to stop smoking.

@lookingfordrama01 3 года назад

YOUR ONLY RECOMMENDATION SHOULD BE TOTAL RELIABILITY AND COST OF OWNERSHIP . ALL THESE OTHER METRICS ARE A LUXURY MOST POOR PEOPLE CANT AFFORD. ALL OF YOU LIVE IN A FANTASY WORLD ITS ACTUALLY RACIST.

@Mabeylater293 3 года назад

9:08. If anyone else is as sick and tired of cr downplaying high tech, gadgets and other awesome features that enhance the car appeal, send them a message by CANCELING YOUR SUBSCRIPTION. They are standing in the way of progress.

@bjs2022 3 года назад

Another of Jennifer’s failures to use the microphone that is about 6 inches from her mouth. "Bad sound makes good video look bad."

@lukerinderknecht2982 3 года назад

Nobody cares

@mrsj1417 3 года назад

Hyundais/Kias have severe engine problems; catch on fire; and depreciate a ridiculous amount almost immediately. I don't care what the seats look like, that's a poor investment.

@kurtybee2 3 года назад

A car is not an investment. Buy what u afford and and like.