2021 Triumph Trident 660 Review | Things I hate!

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2021 Triumph Trident 660 Review | Things I hate! Potentially controversial this one I know so I'm standing by for some furious reaction!! ...However, these are only my opinions and what do I know, so don't get too upset...it's only entertainment!!
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@eforeman7499 3 года назад

Hi as already has been pointed out the strap is used instead of any hand holds. The strap will have been submitted by triumph as a hand hold feature as part of their Type Approval documents, then it will have been tested by the Type approval authority. This will have involved the strap being loaded to the regulation force to ensure that it meets the strength requirements. So it may well be something that you and others don't like it is not a mistake . The very reason why motorcycles have straps on their seats is for pillion hand holds, they are not some fashion accessory. You don't legally need grab handles but a manufacturer has to supply either a strap or a form of grab handle. hope this comment helps. I used to do this stuff for a living.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes I missed that - very good point - can you imagine actually using it for that purpose!!

@MTBrider26 3 года назад

If you can get both of your fists down between your legs to hold onto that grab-strap and still have any of that poor excuse for a seat to left to sit on without falling off the back, you would have to have a rear end the size of a barbie doll.

@michaelyates4646 3 года назад

@@MTBrider26 I just checked and lo and behold pulled out two barbie dolls....I may have an unrelated problem..

@eforeman7499 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Check out Suzuki SV650 and Yamaha MT 07 exactly the same. People may not like them, that's another point but they meet the requirements and would have been subjected to test loads to see that they comply.

@crumblymal8479 3 года назад

Can you imagine someone of a bit of heft sitting sitting on the back of that bike trying to grab the strap it's reticula's the whole back end is of a bad design and I would say just a money making exercise to have grab handles as an extra . : )

@marknicholson5508 3 года назад

The lack of passenger grab rails is so she has to cuddle in close to you. They've copied this from the Italians. My old Ducati's toolkit was a corkscrew and a packet of condoms.

@drewmorg. 2 года назад

You are wise Mark.

@grhmnz4648 3 года назад

For me perhaps my age is showing , but the rear of the bike looks like Triumph ran out of money and left it unfinished . Other bikes like the Katana are similar I think . All the problems with dirt ,pillion provision ,and lack of luggage options stem from that .Good honest review Andy .

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

The weird thing is I rather like the look of the back - I know I'm in a minority but it's the stubby front I have a problem with!

@robertmarsh3588 3 года назад

100% agree. Looks awful, utterly impractical, and rules out the bike entirely for anyone that rides with a pillion.

@teslaedison6236 3 года назад

Yup now we are seeing bikes being chopped short just like SUVs these days. SUV isn't even an SUV anymore. Just a car. It's sad that greed is a priority over customer taste now

@simonbroom7459 3 года назад

As for keeping it clean the gs with the same type of mud guard I'd exactly the same!! Lol

@RAM-sz5uq 3 года назад

Glad it's not just me! I kept thinking "something just doesn't look right" every time I'd lay my eyes on this machine. Chuffed you saw it too.

@mijoizagas3747 3 года назад

I actually like the way the bike looks but hell, beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. Well done sir!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Agreed 100%

@jim4165 3 года назад

Andy - just a point to note.. if you remove the pillion pegs and still have a pillion seat ( even although clearly you don't carry a pillion ) it's an MOT failure. So if you do remove them - do yourself a favor put them back on before you go for an MOT. Been there burnt the teashirt!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes indeed....

@jamesdspaderf2883 3 года назад

wow, a prime example of jobsworth enforcing rules that make no sense in the real world. Well done, DOT!

@jim4165 3 года назад

@@jamesdspaderf2883 crazily my local friendly MOT tester said that if you brought the bike in with no seat ( maybe painful ) it would pass.. as there is nothing to say the bike needs a seat in the MOT - but a seat and no pegs is a no no. Pegs or no pegs and no seat is fine.. - all a bit daft (by the MOT testers admission too!) I mention this just so you don't have to dash back home and fit them just so he can pass you! - done that!

@27jollytall 3 года назад

The things that you don't like are exactky the same things that have put me off; as a weekend bike (or possibly commuter) for a smaller rider whose is happy never to take luggage and loves cleaning their machine, it will be a great bike, but it would be difficult to use as an all rounder, which a lot of us need when spending that much.

@naturalforlife6741 3 года назад

A lot of us can't buy special purpose bikes. That's why I chose the sportster. With a sissy bar, I can go on trips, camping, commute, and pleasant week end rides. People with out a lot of money have to be more practical.

@1ridgy 3 года назад

Jollybollocks What a load of total and utter sh!te.......it’s the ideal commuter. Light, agile and with a punchy engine. Watch the vids on you tube, then take a test ride......or you could just stay a yes I agree man

@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 3 года назад

I was about to say HATE is pretty strong word 😂😂😂

@ClassicTrialsChannel 3 года назад

The strap on the seat is for the pillion. Lots of bike in the 70s have them.

@eforeman7499 3 года назад

Great comment you beat me to it Ive added some extra comments using my knowledge as a type approval engineer, many people including Andy possibly don't know what the strap is for. If you like then is a different matter, but they meet the provision.

@bprakash4 3 года назад

Its way too uncomfortable to use for a pillion rider

@SmittyAZ 3 года назад

Don't all 2 seat bikes have to have a strap or grab rails for legal / safety purposes from the factory? In the USA, something is required. I've had some that come with the passenger kit. (I like the pillion seat for using tail bags.)

@grenphelps7455 3 года назад

Looking at the size of the pillion seat I don't think that you'd be able to grab that strap, as you'd be sitting on it, bikes from the 70's had bigger seats and a strap would work

@garyjohnson1970 3 года назад

Good place to store your gloves when you go inside, holds an old school paper map.....

@iainian 3 года назад

Huge respect to ALL pillion riders & RIDERS who take pillions.....tried it once never again! Good subjective points made TMF!

@TTGubsch123 3 года назад

I just recently purchased a Trident with the white paint and it seriously helps with the "stubby" look of the front end (as does fitting the bar end mirrors). Personally, I think the looks of the bike are a decent mix of good and different. I went and test rode the Trident as soon as my local dealer got one in stock based purely on your First Ride Review. All of the good things you mentioned about the performance are spot on. Well balanced, quick and usable power for the street, and overall a pleasure to ride. I also agree with your assessment of the TFT display being very intuitive and easy to use. I will most likely spring for the quick shifter at my break in service (run in service) as it's a sporty little machine and would benefit from such an upgrade. Great content as usual sir. Keep it up.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Thank you ! Yes overall it is a cracking machine isn't it - these "hates" of mine are pretty few in number!

@hattorneyonwheels 3 года назад

I thought you'd say "throttle response". At least for me, the reasons that you said are not really deal breakers. Great video, as always. Keep it up and ride safe!

@CosmikDebriis 3 года назад

I'm with you on this one though, to be more specific, when I test rode it I noticed a distinct lag in throttle when pulling away. Not that I played with any modes to see if I could sort it. Bit annoying though. Perhaps you just get used to it? Kinda' reminded me of my time as motorcycle mechanic back in the 80's with cable operated throttles. Never failed to amaze me how many people rode around with a quarter turn of more of slack in the throttle cable.

@kmb957 3 года назад

@@CosmikDebriis every used motorcycle I've bought had poorly adjusted throttle cables, clutch cable, and brake cable/rod. The everyday person just turns the key or kicks it and goes. Never gives a shit about maintenance. It's why I'm more partial to buying new bikes these days. Other people's garbage will never be my treasure.

@paulbooth1373 3 года назад

Well I've had mine for a couple of weeks now and I agree about the getting dirty bit. it even throws muck over the engine as I discovered on a very wet ride home after collection from the dealer. All valid points but the looks are improved by the enhanced paint schemes; mine's the matt black union flag style (yes, I do know it's made in Thailand!). I'm not going to take a pillion and I'm sure I'll find suitable luggage for it, if and when I go away on it for a few days. BUT, I bloody love it!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Congratulations Paul - great bike!

@nikhilpadhiar2273 3 года назад

I never thoight id see the word HATE and Trident 660 in the same video 😂. Aiming to get one of theres once I've done my Mod 2! Thanks for your great reviews TMF!

@r.d.1991 3 года назад

That's what I love about your reviews - the good and the not so good. 👍

@jdbmoto 3 года назад

Love your content! Watching your channel inspired me to start reviewing motorcycles. How do you get to try so many different brands? That’s what I’m struggling with

@carlshield6500 3 года назад

Nice work on the video, as an owner of the trident I'd like to counter a few of your points. 1) I have also been disappointed with the amount of muck that gets thrown up at the rear. Wouldn't ever want to have a pillion on the back in wet weather. 2) my wife travels with me frequently (apart from when it's raining) on the trident and she has no problems with the seat size, but she is 5 foot nothing so that might explain it. She says the seat is comfortable and has never felt like she might fall off. The lack of handles doesn't bother her as she always holds onto me which is a safer way to drive with a pillion in my opinion. 3) agreed that touring may be a problem but it's not a touring bike. 4) luggage mounting is also an issue but I'm sure work arounds will come available in time. 5) personally I love the stubby rear and overall design, especially considering the price, is excellent. I love the look and think it's great Triumph have finally made an affordable bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback Carl - good to get an owners perspective!

@carlshield6500 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer it was actually one of your earlier videos that convinced me to pull the trigger and get one. Many thanks.

@davoXsr900 3 года назад

It was a toss up between Trident and Cb650r ,after watching your reviews on both I decided the Triumph , both great bikes, but the CB was a little to modern / Normal looking. I loved that the Trident looked different to the other offerings. Yes the rear plate hanger is not my fave part of the bike( don't see it when I'm riding it) and yes in the rain she does get mucked up pretty bad. I took my 17yr old ,5'9" son as pillion a few rides he said he felt more comfortable on it than my previous Xv950r, I don't have grab handles. But if your going to carry pillions regularly I'm sure you'd look at a totally different machine. Each to their own but the Trident is a joy to ride and live with👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Indeed it is - congratulations on the new bike!

@LambChopRides 3 года назад

Good video Andy as always 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Thanks matey! Expected to be flamed more than I have been.....

@borisbolshoi7317 3 года назад

I always like when you mention storage. I really think you should include the burger test you mentioned in another video. If you can fit a burger and fries under the seat. I'm newish to bikes but never really understand motorcycles storage I'm confident they can add a tiny bit integrated storage into the design with looking like a goldwing or similar.

@tommyvortex2055 3 года назад

Great video as usual. Really enjoying your channel. Sadly never had the dosh to buy most of the bikes you review, so wondered if you had any plans to perhaps review popular choices for second hand bikes - say 5-10 year old models that have withstood the tests of time? Really like to hear your perspective.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

I would love to though logistically difficult.....

@stuartv-e8161 3 года назад

My feelings are that motorcycles should be made to be practical. Like a centre stand, correct and practical provision.for a passenger, ability to have panniers etc. Without these I feel the bike is not fit for purpose and would only frustrate the owner over time. So no I don't like this Triumph very much But thank you for reviewing this bike for us. Bye Stuart 🙂

@davyecc1 3 года назад

My feelings exactly

@MB-gs7pk 3 года назад

Got a grab strap like all the old bikes used to have.

@xaraphyn 3 года назад

So, as it turns out, the Triumph Trident *is* a perfect bike as the only nitpicks people can come up with are "it gets dirty on wet and muddy roads" and "I love the look of it but sometimes I don't like the look of it". Loves the vids, just havin' a bit of fun. Thanks for sharing. 🙂

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes you are absolutely right, it is a great bike and I struggled to find things I didn't like about it....

@ct900965m 3 года назад

Interestingly most of those points are why I love it :-) Don’t care about luggage capability or pillion - I don’t share. Will defo get a shock sock when it arrives in hopefully a couple of weeks. I’ve fitted loads of extras from triumph so not a cheap bit of kit but it’ll be my last purchase from new I think so pushing the boat out. Useful review as always. Cheers.

@kennethmccurdie5833 3 года назад

When I bought my Yamaha DS7 (forerunner of the RD250) in 1971, the manufacturer referred to the strap in their literature as an “acceleration strap”. Basically a device to stop the rider slipping back on the seat during a quick getaway. Wasn’t convinced by that!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

No nor am I Ken!

@bikerbuddy3166 3 года назад

You made my day everything I hate you pointed out I want more like this lol 😂 keep up the good work stay safe 😎👌🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧

@chrisdagnall8666 3 года назад

Not seen one in the flesh yet but I think your use of the word stubby sums it up very well. As usual some great observations.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Thank you kindly

@guywolff 3 года назад

I have not had a chance to ride this one but I have wondered about the conversations around the hard set suspension .To get its sporty ride I have heard that it will need an upgrade if you are not in the mood for a bone shaker .. Thanks Andy as always .. Happy spring from New England .. Guy

@maxrider7880 3 года назад

The short and stubiness (if that is a real word!) is what I really love about it!! But if we all thought the same thing the world would be a very dull place!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Agreed....and Kate Beckinsale would need to go into hiding.....

@DatOldeBiker 3 года назад

Thanks Mr Flyer, I appreciate your honesty that you include niggles as well as praise. I think the bike may well be fine as a commuter/weekend ride. I hope to try one before the end of the month. :>)

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes it's prefect for that...no bike is 100% right, including those that I own, I'm not singling out the Trident above anything else!!

@DatOldeBiker 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Understood! :>)

@grayman999 3 года назад

I think your comments regarding this bike are accurate and fair it’s odd looking and several others share similar issues common among this style of motorcycle 👍👍

@speedlites 3 года назад

Good video and some valid points you have made. Though the look of the bike is subjective, I personally like how the bike looks. The one thing I would like to see Triumph add is the headlight flash or pass button, which would be very useful.

@simonthomas5367 3 года назад

Morning TMF! Thanks for your honesty. I completely agree with you about the looks. I couldn’t put my finger on it but ‘stubby’ is exactly the problem. The new MT07 may be divisive in its looks but at least it’s well proportioned. PS picked up a 25yr old Honda Dominator last week! Good renovation project.....

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Nice one Simon!

@njminer 3 года назад

The failure to understand the usefulness of the Trident's pillion belies the pangs of middle age. If you bought this bike when you were in your 20's you'd gush at the brilliance of this design. No hand rails to grab onto only means the passenger has to hug the driver. The only complaint here migjt be that the brakes aren't powerful enough to have your passenger's chest press onto your back for extended periods. Cheers TMF for another great review... and allowing me to prattle on about our middle age conundrum : )

@johndiehardmclean23 3 года назад

You told it exactly how it is Andy...Stumpy! 👍😉 I seen 1 in person a couple of weeks back & swear it has an overall smaller footprint than my MT-125! 😮

@simonr1392 2 года назад

Went and saw one recently and it's really grown on me as a weekend rider, no pillion!

@raphgurzo3638 3 года назад

I have a Trient too, and I fully agree with you on the pillion part and the rear being super dirty when it is raining. But personally, I find the looks of that bike absolutely gorgeous (mine is the red and grey version)

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Well beauty is in the eye of the beholder of course!

@MarkATaylor 3 года назад

I was at Triumph in York last week and saw one of these for the first time in the flesh. I quite like the styling and if I was a new pass or returning rider then I’d definitely be in the market for the Trident. Not a big bike though for taller riders and I agree with your description of being a bit stubby, although that may appeal to others and the price seems reasonable.

@jamesmcguckin6288 3 года назад

The back end is like an unfinished symphony just like most modern bikes. Style over function doesn’t work for me. I would never buy a bike that couldn’t carry a pillion and have a decent rear fender. The big gap at the back between the seat and wheel is hideous. Why try to make a road bike look like a race bike. Probably to satisfy the young crazies and boost sales. That’s my opinion anyway. Thanks for another great review Andy. You should be on the telly.

@JPBARON25 3 года назад

TMF! Great video as always. Wondering if there are any UK guided motorcycle tours (company) you recommend. Thank you from Texas!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Hi Jim - unfortunately I'm not aware of any - though I suspect there must be some (particularly in the Lake District and Scotland)

@JPBARON25 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you for the response TMF. Have you got the HD Pan America on your radar for future review?

@stephenwright6969 3 года назад

Totally agree with what you said about the looks and practicality, also like a lot of modern bikes the tank capacity is to small even for a daily commuter let alone a tourer.

@flippy66 4 месяца назад

Lucky this isn't a touring bike then.

@raaktalks2132 3 года назад

Very good points about the Grab rails and the design of the rear. They should have at least extended the tyre hugger so that the dirt is kept at bay. That said, we can get the dimensions and fabricate a luggage holder which can go Into the grab rail mounting which can potentially solve the touring side. Cheers

@maxflight777 3 года назад

I’m laughing! I’d been watching “Rocket man “ another you-tuber, reviewing his Trident in the beautiful Algarve . Funny that he didn’t pick up on your point of; “muck spraying all over the bike !😂.

@oldbloke9270 3 года назад

It doesn't rain much in the Algarve so he probably has not had the pleasure. Keep safe, Old Bloke.

@1ridgy 3 года назад

I wonder why🤔😂

@JamoSaye 3 года назад

It's a small, light, relatively cheap bike clearly designed for commuters/city riding and some country road bashing so of course it's not going to have great pillion or touring capability... it's not a touring bike. Why would you buy this bike if you want a tourer?

@craigweightman799 3 года назад

Very handy video you touched on the 2 points that are stopping me from buying a trident. 1 You can't strap luggage to it. 2. The dirt it throws over its self at the back. 😡

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Glad we concur.....

@manuelamilburudiez7172 3 года назад

Could you do a review of the 2021 street triple rs, I'm thinking of buying a used 2018 or a new 2021

@stephenoswald9299 2 года назад

100% agree with your observations - especially on pillion provision and looks

@paulfowler7618 2 года назад

Dont know why but watching this again as thinking of changing my Duke 390 soon and this is on my list as is the Street Triple R. Any chance you might review that bike at some stage? I see you've done the previous STR but not the current one which I would be looking at.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

No plans to Paul - it is a great bike though (it hasn't changed much ince I rode it - I'd have the Street Triple over the Trident any day of the week)....

@1ridgy 3 года назад

Enjoyed your video as usual bonnie lad but having covered 2500 miles on my trident 660 in the 2 months of my ownership and over £9500 lighter with optional extras and aftermarket add on’s I agree with you to a certain extent. Yes it throws up muck, but I note none on your back. Most bikes would be in the same state given the road conditions and the time of year. My “peeves” are clutch lever not adjustable and you’d have to have hands like a gorilla to reach. Aftermarket clutch and brake levers supplied (TEC bike parts) and fitted. Seat is very uncomfortable after 2 hours of riding (aftermarket and customised gel seat sourced at £245 plus postage) and will chase it up once I’ve completed the NC 500 next week, setting out 17 May. No triumph or aftermarket hard luggage available yet but various companies including Givi working on this. Until then a Oxford 70 litre waterproof bag Rok-strapped to the pillion seat and footpegs will have to do. I’ve had a trial run and very secure. Screen sourced and should get that in June. My main peeve is Triumphs inability to supply the optional extras I paid for in advance. Inexcusable really and no reason given. Not happy with Triumph but over the moon with Triumph Newcastle, absolutely fantastic service start to finish. What people need to remember is that in its basic form the Trident 660 is a commuter, first big bike, or weekend fun bike (and by god it’s fun) and at £7200 is a bargain considering the technology that comes with it. As I intend to do quite a bit of touring do I regret not getting the Tiger 900 c/w hard luggage? Yes and no. Yes it would have been more suitable to my needs “but” the aftermarket parts for the Trident will come, hopefully this year and in time to tour Eire (and visit the daughter and family in Galway) and I’ll be a happy puppy

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Thanks for the feedback FWR! It is a great bike overall - I hope you continue to enjoy!

@iainian 3 года назад

Thanks for your review! FwR

@1ridgy 3 года назад

@@iainian aye it was a bit of a rant 😂😂

@iainian 3 года назад

@@1ridgy 😁👍

@jameshogan2619 3 года назад

I agree with you about the rear of the bike. It reminds me of the ‘12 Diavel I had that stayed filthy after a ride in the rain.

@teneretraveller8980 3 года назад

Honesty is always the best policy. Other people obviously agree. Hence the viewing figures. Agree completely about the pillion perch- actually huge point for ne. Happy travels

@Banditmanuk 3 года назад

Lack of spray suppression on the rear of naked bikes generally is an issue, we ride them in all weathers and its not just the bike that gets filthy, it's that line of mud up the back of your expensive riding jacket. You will struggle to make your pillion cop for that mud with the Trident, unless they are brave and skinny. Its still a great bike for the money and the spray suppression on the Street Triple (not so much your model) is just as bad.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes I must say I don't have an issue with spray on my STR.....

@Banditmanuk 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer yes those iconic high exhausts not only look good but give protection. Sadly no longer a Triumph thing

@iainian 3 года назад

Hi Banditman!! The under seat seat exhausts is one of the reasons I bought a speed triple 1050 at the time (sadly sold now).......not sure about the "low boy" on the new 1200

@Banditmanuk 3 года назад

@@iainian yep I owned a 1050 Speed Triple, loved the underseat exhausts and they did offer some protection from rear wheel spray. It's style and keeping weight low now with low boys .

@iainian 3 года назад

Thanks BMUK , both of you ride safe!

@peacockchristopher99 3 года назад

During lockdown I took my Street Scrambler to the local Triumph dealer for a service and MOT. I asked how the Trident was selling, and was told they were selling well - then added that it would be “a bit small for you though.” My thoughts entirely, being 6’4”.

@Hooner77 3 года назад

Another good review in the books. Everything you brought up about the pillion seat can applied to every naked bike for sale. Some had grab rails but many did not. The front rake of the forks was pretty much the same among the all the naked bikes. I think the ones from the Europe appear to have a little more rake. Though in pictures the Trident's rake looks the same as the speed triple and street triple. My observations were all made looking at the pictures on all the manufactures web sites. Many times perception can change when the bike is viewed live. As always looking forward to the next video.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes I loved the look of the Trident when I saw the first picks but kind of fell out of love when I spent some time with the actual bike...

@dungbeetlemovies 3 года назад

Have to agree with all the practical points raised. Also think it could probably do with a larger headlamp to help fill the front end out a bit.

@oldbloke9270 3 года назад

Another honest and unbiased set of views. Agree 100% about the numberplate arm. Looks horrendous just like the Katana from Suzuki and the lack of any points to secure something old school like a cargo net restricts strapping small luggage to the rear seat. I would also mention the poor rear brake pedal. Where the hall Triumph found this God knows. Surely this could be improved. Keep safe, Old Bloke.

@1ridgy 3 года назад

Re the number plate arm - I tried to source a tail tidy for my trident 660 and failed. I’ve since I installed a smaller number (nothing nefarious purely cosmetic) plate and it now looks great. Not sure if Dibble would agree but no problems with Jonny law to date

@britalian_biker 3 года назад

@@1ridgy what size plate did you go with? I may end up side mounting the plate and moving the indicators higher up using the access design kit

@markj3517 3 года назад

A strap is only useful to the pillion during acceleration. When braking it does little to stop them being thrown forward into the rider. This can of course be used to get closely acquainted to new friends. I never felt secure on the occasions I had to get a lift on the back of a bike with just a strap.

@britalian_biker 3 года назад

As usual, a very fair assessment. I’m lucky that I have no intention of taking a pillion so will remove the rear pegs and I actually like (most of) the looks of the bike, mainly not a fan of the number plate mounting, with the indicators being so low down, so may have to change that. I find that too many modern bikes look like transformers to me with all their weird angular shapes everywhere. Not looking forward to having to clean it every five minutes though due to the lack of a proper mudguard.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes I agree it does make a change for a new bike to not have the transformer thing going on....

@crumblymal8479 3 года назад

Totally agree with that assessment Andy I also wonder why

@InAMinMaths 3 года назад

Always cool to see Amersham roads and area. And that looked like Chalfont station?

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Well spotted!

@vernonfewtrell5735 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Used to live in Rickmansworth so usually recognise most places you go on local rideouts

@garethtemple6242 3 года назад

You make some valid points, particularly regarding the lack of pillion capacity. I quite like the looks of the bike, having seen one in the flesh at my nearest showroom, although the rear end looks a bit truncated. Sadly Triumph seem to have gone down the BMW route of making a lot of quite basic fitments, such as grab handles, and centre stands etc, into expensive add-on accessories, which is a shame because it makes the advertised price of certain models a bit meaningless.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes BMW in particular are shockers at that....disingenuous I think

@pcarts232 Год назад

I love the look of it but I wouldn’t buy one ! I bought the speed triple Rs 1200 instead 😂 ( I’m regretting it now though because I just don’t have the skill to ride it)! I feel nervous on my Speed Triple so it just sits there gathering dust 😢! I’ve got the K1600 now and I absolutely love it ! It’s like riding a big battleship with wheels 🛞! 😂😂😂😂 👍🏾

@alexandersmith8241 3 года назад

This could be a bike that grows on you, but the styling does seem a bit jelly moldish, from the old Ford Sierra design school. Enjoying your opinions as usual, a big thank you for "hello folks" at the start. Keep on rolling.

@SpinyBiker 3 года назад

Kreiga dry bags fit fine on the back. I don't carry pillions but I got the grab handles put on in any case as thought it looks better with them on and again aid in using ROK straps if needing to carry something. I agree the bike does get dirty easy, not just the rear but it amazes me how much the front forks attract muck, even on dry days!

@asatti 3 года назад

agreed on the stumpy look. at the beginning I thought it looked good but then seeing it at the dealership and sitting on it, it felt like a unicycle.

@kevinf-b5065 3 года назад

I entirely agree with you. The bike seems to struggle for a niche place in the market. I recently went shopping for a replacement for my lovely Crosstourer which due to my advancing years has become too top heavy. I'm now unable to get it onto the center stand, let alone maneuvering when it's loaded on a tour. 650 - 750 was the target and below 120kg. Iv'e settled for the new 2021 NC750x although obtaining one requires patience and joining a long waiting list; also no accessories available until September!!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Good choice I reckon - did you go DCT?

@kevinf-b5065 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer No, gone back to self shifting, Found the DCT too willing to leap forwards at the lights. Also wanted a clutch for when my right hand goes to sleep!

@stanleyblazeraznik6047 3 года назад

I picked up mine on Saturday and clocked nearly 100 miles on it. A bit chilly in the 'Merica midwest so the heated grips (optional) were great. I set them on low and medium and never needed them to be any higher. I wear an Icon leather glove. I won't be taking a pillion so those rear pegs are coming off. I hit them with the back of my boot (size 10.5 US) a few times so they need to go. Dirt on da tail....I can see where that is going to be an issue so I am going to place a piece of vinyl under the rear cowl to help with cleaning. I wonder if someone will make a fender extender to further help with directing da crud away? Love the riding position. I mean...LOVE it! So comfortable. Looks....this is a tough one because I do like the rear end, gas tank and handle bars. Front end, you are correct Sir, much too stubby. The bike would.look so much better if it was longer with an increased front rake but that would.mess with the upright riding position. Still on break in mode so I can't ring her out yet. I just love dat sound of the triple. LUV it! It purrs during acceleration and sounds like a peach. What a wonderful motor. My last Triumph was a 1970 Bonneville. I am an older dude! Nice video my good Sir. Like that jacket alot!

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Cheers Stanley - and congratulations on the new bike!

@mgma2005 3 года назад

Question: for a longer ride do you prefer the Trident or the CB650R?

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

I prefer the CB650R generally (mainly due to its modern looks) - to be honest I've not done a properly long ride - ie more than an hour - on either.....

@barryjmarling 3 года назад

I was talking to a fella with one yesterday at Rykers (box hill) gotta say I liked it,I was impressed with the 66 mpg he was getting as well but alas was definitely to small for me.

@1ridgy 3 года назад

Best I’ve done is 61mpg and that was at a more or less continuous 60mph

@michaelknuelle4983 3 года назад

Well sir as mentioned no bike is perfect,but from my point of view you did an exellent rewiew.remember your rewiew of the bmw f850gs adv so well done i get one in a few month thanks .

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Congratulations!

@peterwilson8039 3 года назад

I'm glad somebody else shares my opinion on the look of the bike. Here is what I think is going on. Triumph makes retro bikes and they also make cutting edge sports bikes. This bike is entry-level and they don't know if the prospective buyer is going to be tempted by a retro look or a sporty look, so they put a foot in both camps so to speak. The other thing that might be going on here, is, as a 66 year-old man riding a Bandit 650, I know there is such a thing as good enough. The Trident might be good enough for a fellow to buy and keep for fifteen or twenty years as a weekend fun bike, or a commuter bike. Triumph wants to give the Trident buyer a good reason to upgrade after a year or so to a Bonneville or a Street Triple, and the bike is styled accordingly. It is a pretty nice bike, and if I were so inclined it would be a nice upgrade from my Bandit.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes you may be right Peter - thanks for stopping by!

@AllboroLCD 2 года назад

Just got mine a couple days ago, was instant love for me : D What a sexy, smooth bike! Its literally a sport bike with an upright riding position, LOVE IT! The slop in the throttle is perfect for how I ride, not sure why ppl complain. My only gripe is lack of anchor points on the frame and the short stubby shift/brake levers. The TCS/ABS are excellent and already saved me from sliding out on gravel. Amazing bike!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Congratulations on your new bike!

@AllboroLCD 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Heyyyyy, thanks brotha! Got mine in Sapphire black, shes pretty!

@kairyurider 3 года назад

My biggest hate was how my street triple 660s was ruined by the dealer in just 2 weeks and the triumph gutted me buying it back at 40% loss. Have a video if anyone is wondering.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Outrageous!! Sorry to hear that....

@kairyurider 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Your review of the sv650 is helping me move on with my life. Thanks a lot!

@LivingwithaBMWKGTL 3 года назад

Brother.. not one single bike is perfect in every aspect... (yep...not even BMW!!..but I refuse to ever admit this in public!)... Great vid as usual... you are one of the most honest reviewers there is and that is much appreciated..Don't think Mrs TMF would appreciate being a pillion on this bike (and I am not saying she is big (love ya Mrs TMF.. honestly...just thinking of your comfort..she just wouldn't like it.....short of storage space is something you should used too as a GW owner (damn said it again!)!!!! Andy..I don't think your stubby at all Bro. and I agree the bike doesn't look balanced... but great vid and many thanks my friend

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Thanks for watching and commenting once again - even though your views clearly can't be trusted ;0) ( just playing with you!!!)

@LivingwithaBMWKGTL 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer and that from a fan of Gold Wings??? really

@davemartin53 3 года назад

I like the look good price for what you get thanks for the video from Cornwall

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

It is a great bike to ride and on paper - I know many think it looks great, just to me, in the flesh, I was a little disappointed.....we can't love 'em all!

@benjaminyip9112 3 года назад

The Trident demo I saw was filthy. Now I know that was achievable after just one ride, I don’t feel so bad anymore!

@jeremydwyer2724 3 года назад

I agree on the styling. I also don't like the single gauge but I guess that goes w/the territory on more of a budget bike.

@paulcreasey5037 3 года назад

With you on the rear end it needs something under the seat to balance it out and handrails are very useful when shifting the bike around in the garage etc

@craigdennen6193 3 года назад

As you say Andy, looks are subjective. I’ve got one in Matt black and love it! Much more fun than my CBR500R I traded in for it. No desire to carry a pillion - my Mrs is 5’10” haha. I’ve therefore removed the pillion pegs and added a Held tailback. No problem carrying a lock and room for a burger and chips although they might get squashed. Won’t be touring on it but for a weekend blast and a fair weather commute (laptop in rucksack) it’s perfect. Glad I don’t ride in the rain although you can purchase a hugger extender from Powerbronze I think

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Nice one Craig!

@johnwatson3400 3 года назад

Interesting, the responses to expressing a personal opinion. I'm glad there are probably thousands of alternative bikes to choose from. And thousands of options to personalise each one. YMMV

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes I knew this would throw up some interesting responses!

@lynsmith1096 3 года назад

Good video TMF

@hakankillberg6043 3 года назад

Great video. Completely agree with you what you said in this video. A little bit tired of naked bikes right now. Wanted a more swiss army bike so now i am waiting for my new Triumph 900 GT Pro to arrive. Just loved that bike when i testride it. Leaving back my Suzuki GSX S1000 . Loved it but wanted a bike that could take a pillion and bring some luggage. Still a light bike better insurance cost and do so much more. If you cant afford several bikes and want one that does the most of the job go for this Triumph 900 GT Pro. Is this the best bike ever considering weight, costs, specs and handling. Waiting for my new swiss army knife😃

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

....actually I'd go for the Tiger Sport 850...even better value!

@hakankillberg6043 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer yes agree but i wanted the electric suspension. Its a matter of taste😃

@5ebra1 3 года назад

I totally agree with you. The mess from the rear wheel is unacceptable and the pillion situation is a joke. The bike looks squashed in that the proportion of height to length just seem wrong.

@markbright7845 3 года назад

My mother in law would net let her daughters use the word “hate”. They had to say “dislike intensely” . It’s become a family joke between the sisters now. Now, I would dislike intensely to disagree with you on anything, but don’t you think that this bike is a modern equivalent of a cafe racer, something that is intended for hop on, hop off short blasts, and never intended for touring? It’s fine to say that you can tour on anything, and as you said, that’s subjective. But maybe some bikes are more suited to some roles than others. You wouldn’t take your GoldWing trail riding for example, and you didn’t criticise your Go,dWing for not being suitable to that role, did you? Or did I miss that? Keep up the good work.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes fair point Mark - just my observations on the bike, I'm no expert, just sharing my views.....

@creakincrank2806 3 года назад

Off the top of your head, can you think of any recent bikes with stubby back ends that don't throw road crud all over themselves (especially once you add a tail tidy)? I think they need to bring back the larger swingarm mounted rear mudguards from the 90's (CBR 600F comes to mind).

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

No I can't - it's a common issue I agree - but the Trident did look particularly nasty after a ride in the rain.....

@erjones 3 года назад

I've had an MT07 and been touring on that and had a good test ride on the Trident, agree about luggage space as I see this more as a good commuter bike

@karlosh9286 3 года назад

I think it looks quite good. The headlight definitely looks better than my Speed Triple ! Although I wouldn't swap my Speed Triple RS in for a Trident, other reasons, like the 1050cc engine's bucket loads of grunt and wonderful sound track through the Arrow cans. I think the paint schemes are naff, but that seems to affect all current Triumphs, apart from my red Speed Twin. My white Speed Triple, well I'd have had that in red if it'd been on offer. Yes pillion provision is a bit crap, but then that's crap on my Speed Triple, a Street Triple I had, and my Speed Twin isn't exactly wonderful (but it's better than the other two). The SV650 or MT-07 don't look that good for pillions either. Bikes to take pillions on, well surely you need a Goldwing, GS , Tiger etc ... As for muck up the back, all modern bikes with minimalist mud guards seem to suffer that. Okay Meriden Triumph in the early 60s went a bit too far with the "bath tub" , it would be nice to see some larger mud guards. I don't think I'm that keen on the number plate mounting, the alternative is a really long stalk from the stubby rear end ( You know the silly regs ! ) so maybe what is currently on the Trident is the best compromise. Now if they joined the bit of plastic from the number plate up to the rear hugger , that'd solve all the muck up the back ! Someopne really needs to make that bit of plastic.

@waynesmith9032 3 года назад

Overall I like the looks. My gripe is that the upper rear end is nice but only because it doesn’t contain the indicators and licence plate. It seems like the lower hugger containing these is like an after thought 🤔

@matthewoliver9055 3 года назад

Saw one for the first time the other day, does look small but didn't think it was a bad looker although I think the Honda CB650R looks a bit classier, as for the pillion my street triple has nothing to grab hold of and an A4 sized seat

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Very true!

@pggp273 3 года назад

I think your judgement is spot on Andy. I have only recently had the opportunity to have a look at the trident in the flesh (so to speak) I found the bike to be Completely underwhelming and not a patch on build quality against my 2016 street Triple. For me the two things I particularly disliked was the shape of the tank as you look down at the top of it from the seated position. And secondly the radiator had got to be one of the cheapest they could find and it is way too wide for the bike. I'm sure the bike has its place but it's not one for me.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Glad we concur!

@GertrudeGrindhorn 3 года назад

Mmmm..Mr Flyer, I find myself agreeing totally with you...I have the new 2021 Honda 650R, and the same can be said for that bike too...no real accommodation for a back rider bar the stock footpegs. It's clear to me that this is meant as single rider bike...with the odd track day in mind. There's no way I'd sit perched up high, no solid hand hold as a pillion...both the Triumph and Honda have short chassis, so mud & crud will always ruin the rear end looks....the Honda does have solid chassis-welded hand-holds though. It seems to me, that this segment has somehow mixed up it's target customer. As an over 60 yrs person of shorter stature, I like the 'compact' design of all the bikes in this segmant..but I think the very short rear-end chassis and long tailpiece is well...bad design...so much cleaning to do after every ride, ha ha!!

@yerdad3921 3 года назад

Anyone who has negative comments about the pillion grab strap has clearly never used one. I have years of experience using these both as a pillion and as a rider taking a pillion and I would have to say that the strap is preferable to grab handles in both situations. As a pillion - gripping with one hand - it is more comfortable under acceleration /deceleration just straight arming and letting the strap take the weight rather than having to push yourself forward on grab handles (pulling back on de-cel) is way less fatigue-ing. As a rider pillions using grab handles feel more rigid and cumbersome always having to fight against them whereas with the strap there’s more of a fluidity in movement, it just feels more natural - to me at least. The best thing by far is that your pillion has one hand free which can be placed on the riders back when decelerating (unexpectedly when some twerp pulls out on you) and avoiding the inevitable smack of the pillions helmet against yours, and it’s just more intimate.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Wow that's really interesting feedback - thank you for putting me straight!

@yerdad3921 3 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer All I’m saying is don’t knock it till you’ve tried it, just ‘cos it’s old school doesn’t make it bad. Besides, you may be able to use this to get Mrs F over her “No back box - no pillion” irrational fear, because I assure you she would feel safer and more at one with the bike after going once round the block and open up a world of opportunities for you to add the pillions POV to your reviews. :)

@neillambton4065 3 года назад

Interesting to hear your comments, some i agree with. As for the pillion set up, Triumph have built the Trident as an "entry level" machine, and not many new riders will be confident to take passengers. The same can be said for touring, it`s not really a touring machine, though i do agree there should be a provision for a rear rack for a topbox etc, i believe George Milburn and the guys at TEC are looking into that, as well as making an alternative rear mudgaurd and number plate hanger to come from under the seat to get rid of that ugly monstrosity of an existing thing, plus it will help to keep the rear end a lot cleaner. I tested the Trident a couple of weeks back, i found it a fantastic bike to ride, but would need to change some of the parts you mention.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Yes there is no doubt it is a great bike - but not perfect, hence my observations in this video...

@stuartmoles843 3 года назад

I had a go on one of these the other weekend, whilst a great bike and probably right up there with the best middle weights I ended up buying a SV650 to do the commute and well pleased with it so far. The Triumph was £7300 without any extras, the SV was a bargain £5800, that’s a big difference, plus Suzuki was giving a 3 year warranty. Is the SV a better bike? Probably not. Will I notice the difference on the daily grind? Probably not

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

I love the SV.....basic but brilliant...

@tomaszp614 2 года назад

I test rode Trident this weekend , there's nothing premium about this bike. I'd choose SV650 as well, power delivery much better than triumph, sounds better and tons of character.

@bluehazeboy 3 года назад

The main reason I didn’t buy one , is that dreadful rear end, same as the Suzuki katana, I ended up with a new Suzuki gsxs750,three year warranty was what made me go for that, plus I got £750 off as it was December, so 600 miles into it, I’m well pleased with its performance & economy. Top job mate, keep the videos coming 👍

@mvee5944 3 года назад

Ive owned mine a little over a month now. Id say my 2 criticisms would be - the throttle response could do with a sport mode to sharpen it up (ok for the most part, but can feel a little soft at times). You have to cycle through the menus to get the engine temp (not a big deal, but its nice to glance down and see it). Overall though I love the bike, and the looks. Jury is still out on the luggage, waiting for my triumph tank and tail bags

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

Congratulations on your new bike!

@dry509 3 года назад

Would you get this or Suzuki GSXS750? About same price here in US. I only ride for fun, no pillion, no commuting, no touring...just running around local area and nearby country roads.

@Fireblade918 3 года назад

All excellent points well made as with many types of vehicles nowadays it seems the people who design them don't use them!

@peterhird3542 3 года назад

Hi Andy, I have to agree about the overall look of the Trident. I haven’t seen one in the flesh as yet but watching RU-vid reviews and looking thru magazine articles I thought the same as your good self. It’s an enigma...the Trident has some brilliant features, especially for someone new to motorcycling but as a whole it misses the mark. Personally I can’t stand the rear hugger/number plate mount that is an ever increasing feature on some recent motorcycles. Cheers.

@TheMissendenFlyer 3 года назад

I'm glad we concur Peter!