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2022 Elantra N First Track Day Shakedown // IT'S A BEAST 

Patty Boi
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My brother's 2022 Hyundai Elantra N is an absolute blast on track. We're at Waterford Raceway in Michigan to do a shakedown of the car. It ran flawlessly and the Hyundai N division really impressed us.
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Timestamps:
0:00 The Goals
1:04 First Session
1:52 Initial Thoughts
4:18 Second Session
5:24 More Thoughts
7:52 Last Sessions....RIP
8:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts On The Day

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@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
I genuinely worked pretty hard on this so give it a like if you liked it! This car is really fast and fun to drive on track....am jealous
@shortroundChris
@shortroundChris 2 года назад
this is the content we need for this car, unlike other youtubers just doing straight pulls. please drive the car for what it is really intended for. yall wouldn't use a butter knife to cut your steak would you?
@notyouraverageyoutuber3172
@notyouraverageyoutuber3172 10 месяцев назад
i use a butter knife to cut steak
@BenBike
@BenBike 2 года назад
This was awesome. Will is so knowledgeable and Patrick is an editing/filming wizard!
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
Thanks Ben, I really appreciate that and I'm sure Will does as well!
@luphas117
@luphas117 2 года назад
Yep editing was nice when i didnt know what you were saying like (tires)
@zxmurph1
@zxmurph1 2 года назад
Fantastic vid! Thanks so much for your efforts-- after the N rollout at Sonoma, I was so eager to have someone get some relative times bone-stock at their home track and confirm what sort of thermal capacities the car really has. It seems N is, indeed, for real and I look forward to seeing more of your experiences. The shooting and production are pretty damn slick and man oh man it is refreshing to have someone who is clearly both a hobbyist and an engineer in front of the camera. Cheers!! I am at 613 miles this morning on my Performance Blue 6-spd, curious to see your findings regarding the 2nd gear lockout---- thanks again!
@Frostbite545
@Frostbite545 2 года назад
Really enjoying the Elantra N videos, and I'm considering getting one myself. I hope you keep the updates coming, the quality was great!
@elantran
@elantran 2 года назад
Great video! I also tracked my elantra n completely stock back in February and she did better than I thought. I did 3 more track days with track wheels and tires but everything else still stock since then and the experience has been amazing. This car is meant to be driven on track!
@SitOnMyFaceBookXD
@SitOnMyFaceBookXD 2 года назад
Hey. Thank you for the very detailed, transparent, and enthusiastic review. You did great.
@n-power-automotive
@n-power-automotive 2 года назад
Just stumbled upon your channel and this video. Very respectable results from the track testing! I really dig the Elantra N. I recently bought a Honda Accord 2.0T, but part of me wishes I had at least test drove the N first. It seems like the total package.
@ryankutcher1
@ryankutcher1 2 года назад
You’re a natural in this car Will! Great video fellas.
@devn3813
@devn3813 2 года назад
Great video! This makes me so excited to get my N
@lassevaananen2027
@lassevaananen2027 2 года назад
Great video! I hope that next summer i can go to the track session with my i30N Fastback.
@Arsing116
@Arsing116 2 года назад
One of the best EN actual user vids out so far. Great job. I’m looking at this or a Civic Si. Hopefully I’ll be able to snag an EN for MSRP in Mi if I go with it.
@commentmancommentman1658
@commentmancommentman1658 2 года назад
elantra N or if you have the extra money type r. civic si is trash tn
@akunamatata4266
@akunamatata4266 2 года назад
Legit covic si is not a sporty or tracky car, brz/86 or Elantra n for track for cheap money
@lotsofcurveslover
@lotsofcurveslover 2 года назад
I was there on Sunday and was keeping an eye on your car since I want to get a Kona N. I live close to the track so I plan to do some track days. Cool to find your channel.
@JohnDoe-je3cr
@JohnDoe-je3cr 2 года назад
great video patty
@xsnow167
@xsnow167 Год назад
Good stuff bud glade to see you enjoying and driving the N the way it should 💪😎 keep up the great content
@natewhite8845
@natewhite8845 2 года назад
Great vid!
@ChristianRunsNY
@ChristianRunsNY 2 года назад
Nice job with this video. As someone who really would only take it to the track occasionally, it's an awesome deal for all it's potential at the price point.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Oh dude, I'd go to say it's straight up the best "dual duty" car that you can buy from the showroom floor for less than 40K that both is great on the street and set up well for the occasional track day. Like honestly, the thing felt great. Dynamically it's set up pretty perfect as-is, where as even dedicated sport cars have some things that should be tuned out (ND Miata is too soft, 86/BRZ is prone to understeer). Seriously, it's amazing
@ChristianRunsNY
@ChristianRunsNY 2 года назад
@@williamrori1274 Yea I'm seeing so much positive early owner feedback as well as seasoned track drivers really loving this thing.
@wesleydotcom
@wesleydotcom 2 года назад
Great video!
@emmanuelguerrero3751
@emmanuelguerrero3751 2 года назад
Really like the style of this video, feels like a quality TV show.
@jamiel5844
@jamiel5844 2 года назад
Great video, thanks! I hope to track mine soon.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Definitely should! This car was an absolute blast on track, even stock.
@rinbine2713
@rinbine2713 2 года назад
This is a real review about Elantra N. Not a just winding. Not a drag.. This is the real Elantra N review.
@geoffreytodd
@geoffreytodd 2 года назад
looks like an awesome car. great work on the video too.
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
Thanks Geoff :)
@boosted_john
@boosted_john 2 года назад
Awesome video!
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
Thanks dude!
@Uplatenerd
@Uplatenerd 2 года назад
I own a Black EN, and the most annoying thing is people still say "still a hyundai". People are so narrow minded when it comes to cars it's insane.
@ll.7927
@ll.7927 2 года назад
Not a fan of the looks of the Elantra n but it performs. My friends are the same way. Lol
@maxwedge5683
@maxwedge5683 2 года назад
Great Video. I agree that NOBODY knows about the N series Hyundai's. Even the dealers people were surprised when my Elantra N arrived last February. It's weird that there's such a disconnect between Hyundai's race program and their advertising.
@4drturbo85
@4drturbo85 Год назад
It's sad too.
@raymondrudy1831
@raymondrudy1831 2 года назад
Great video
@GenXisT
@GenXisT Год назад
So glad I bought one of these (2023)
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha 2 года назад
Thanks for taking time to gather and share your experiences with the Elantra. I love my BRZ but still have a fascination with this car. Does Hyundai make some crash bolts for some negative camber? I'm more curious about this car in SCCA DS for autocross than track, but this was still excellent footage.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Yep, there's whiteline camber bolts. We're actually aligning it right now, and it was -1.7 degrees stock camber and we were able to get -2.8 degrees with the $35 camber bolts. That's not enough for me, so we're going to slot the top strut hole, but that should be enough for the average HPDE/street user!
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha 2 года назад
@@williamrori1274 Holy crap I get about 1.5 degrees *with* camber bolts, but these are Subaru OEM crash bolts and only in the top mounting hole. That much camber should make turn in pretty damn snappy. How is rotation? I thought about adding a larger front bar to keep the geometry of the front flatter and using rear toe out to get rotation. But on track that toe out could be a little hairy.
@4drturbo85
@4drturbo85 Год назад
Great video as always. What made you decide to change the oil early on? Was it due to having a track day and not wanting to run the break in oil? I understand completely. Going to change mine when I hit 1k miles.
@bidtles
@bidtles 2 года назад
I'm so pumped to get mine next week hopefully. But damn that rn30 for 2023. 375hp on a mid engine basically veloster. Wish I could hold out for that
@petahlee
@petahlee 2 года назад
Thanks for the feedback. FWD have come a long way for lap times, depends on what you are looking for. What time was the BRZ running on this track?
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
I believe stock his BRZ was consistently around 1:22 but he set a 1:21 as a PR when it was stock. Bolt ons and tires dropped several seconds
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Maybe we should come up with a lap time board for this track. But here's some stock car times that I can think of off the top of my head: 2017 BRZ w/ PP: 1:21.3 2018 Mustang GT PP1: 1:18.2 2019 Camaro SS 1LE: 1:16.4 2015 Focus ST: 1:22.8 Those weren't all with me driving, but similar advanced drivers.
@taroitofilau3983
@taroitofilau3983 2 года назад
Great video, here in Aus, been waiting for the GR Corolla pricing before i make the decision to buy either the Sedan N or Corolla, but im hearing rumours the GR is not going to be as affordable as the N so thanks again, id been wondering how good this N is.
@Soul_Flow_
@Soul_Flow_ 2 года назад
amazing car, wow
@mroberts7519
@mroberts7519 Год назад
I wish I could see this exact episode with the DCT
@thetallrafay
@thetallrafay 2 года назад
great video. just wish the music wasn’t so loud or there wasn’t any music at all while you were on the track so we could actually hear the car and all the noises
@RcCrawlerGuy
@RcCrawlerGuy 2 года назад
Great video. I have a 6speed EN and sometimes get the same 2nd gear lockout. Buttttt it’s been getting better and better the more miles I put on it. How many miles you have? I just hit 2000
@4drturbo85
@4drturbo85 Год назад
He said in the video, he's like right over 600 something miles. This video is like around 11 months old so he probably has a lot more now
@shortroundChris
@shortroundChris 2 года назад
I've been a believer once I knew Albert Biermann was the man behind these cars. (former BMW e36 M3 guy)
@cinnamontoastclutch6653
@cinnamontoastclutch6653 2 года назад
2nd gear lockout was probably temp related. maybe try some upgraded trans fluid like motul etc. great video!
@zxmurph1
@zxmurph1 2 года назад
I think he noted it was actually most prevalent outbound in a session when "cold" but I could be wrong?
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
So interesting development on this... My build date is apart of a TSB for the clutch disk getting installed backwards from the factory. After the next track day I have an appointment for them to fix that TSB. But yeah, I think that was likely causing the clutch to "drag" a bit which would explain issues getting into gear.
@tealchief
@tealchief 2 года назад
There's a pretty aggressive gear lock-out for the MT on the EN
@CallOfBooty13
@CallOfBooty13 Год назад
What oil do you use? When I get my N I think I'm going to go Liquid Moly.
@ByTheSlice
@ByTheSlice 2 года назад
Wonder if it's as good at autox. Looks so fun and that color is NICE
@DaveScottADV
@DaveScottADV Год назад
Did you ever get the 2nd gear lockout issue figured out?
@jorges2k_ap299
@jorges2k_ap299 2 года назад
Im very close to buying one for tracking purposes. My only concern is the aftermarket support.
@zxmurph1
@zxmurph1 2 года назад
While tempting to add more camber, I would encourage rolling with the bone-stock, "straight from the showroom" theme as long as possible, then start changes with tires etc. Any thoughts preferred track rubber to start?
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Yep, so normally I'd agree 100%. However, in this case, I have to prep for time trials/time attack so I'm pretty rushed to get it to that point so I can test and tune from there. My favorite tire for split track and street use is the RT660. It's substantially quicker than something like the RS4, and yet is much better in the wet. It's also priced quite competitively!
@zxmurph1
@zxmurph1 2 года назад
@@williamrori1274 ran the RT660s on my Fiestas (with an embarrassing majority of street miles lol) and absolutely loved them.....of course driving them from Delaware to Rochester NY last summer smack within heavy hurricane-remnant rain all the way was a bit interesting at times to say the least 😉
@vabeachsux
@vabeachsux 2 года назад
Great track day video! How were the engine/oil temps and was cooling any concern? Did you run full "N Mode" or did you customize any of the suspension, LSD, engine settings?
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
So cooling was perfectly fine, Will at one point said he might have felt a little heat soak but we'll want to wait for warmer temps in the summer to be sure. As far as settings, I'll wait for Will to comment. I'm not 100% sure what he was running for modes. I'd assume everything set on aggressive besides maybe suspension but let's see.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! So, the day was fairly cold (60 degrees F) but sunny. Regardless, water temp never went past 205 degrees F, where oil temp peaked at 250 degrees F. That to me is perfectly reasonable. I tracked my BRZ at 270-280 F oil temps for three years without issue, but that's at the point where the lack of oil lubrication might be an issue. From that though, we can say the radiator is a great size and design - no need to improve anything there. In the future, I may add a small A20 cooler but honestly 250F temps are nothing to worry about.
@eveeweckesser
@eveeweckesser 2 года назад
I have one of the babies and looking at the screen set up in the video imb guessing he's running full n mode with the safety features off
@riseagainst816
@riseagainst816 Месяц назад
Did you ever figure out the “lockout” into second gear? I’m having the same problem
@Defy_Convention
@Defy_Convention 2 года назад
.16 seconds is just a mental thing
@keithcotter-reilly
@keithcotter-reilly 2 года назад
I saw some reports recently stating that it seems that Hyundai is understating the HP. A few reputable dynos ran some Elantra Ns. Averaging around 270 at the wheel! So putting it crank around 315 to 320. Which if true is insane.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Yep, 100%. Basically these cars are putting their advertised crank HP, down to the wheels. Just a flash tune gets you 320-330 whp.
@roskataqv
@roskataqv 2 года назад
Wonder if the auto rev-match would lock you out thinking you might overrev the engine...
@shortroundChris
@shortroundChris 2 года назад
do you do heel toe technique or just use the auto rev matching? for me I found it hard to heel toe with this pedal box. size 8.5 foot but the pedals are too far apart for me.😢
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
The auto rev matching in these new N cars is actually really amazing. I'm almost 100% sure he used auto rev for the entire day. It's that good
@norevlimitr1602
@norevlimitr1602 Год назад
I always drove RWD cars, 911, Exige, Z/28, Supra, ext.. I drove a Veloster N and couldn't believe how good it was. I bought one... 😬
@Believeintimetravel
@Believeintimetravel 2 года назад
Do you think it would benefit from a lighter wheelset? Heard the stock ones are pretty heavy.
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
100% lighter wheels always add performance. He's got some on the way :)
@mrnevermind
@mrnevermind 2 года назад
I hope Genesis will eventually have their performance tier N, and I can’t wait to see g90 N
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
I would do nasty things for a reboot of the Genesis Coupe from the N division, but actually good this time around.
@afrikengunner
@afrikengunner 2 года назад
Usually it's a torque second gear lockout
@jamesconway4821
@jamesconway4821 2 года назад
really nice car I just wish Hyundai comes out with a V6 version soon. my favorite is black on black with black interior including black headliner black floor carpeting and black rims. I also wish they would bring back the LED brake light for the rear spoiler and led rear brake full width of the rear tailgate window strip in the and also bring back full top panoramic sunroof with black limousine tint 5% for sunroof and rear tailgate glass and rear windows and then darkest legal tint for the front driver's window and front passenger window with the down drop 5% black top portion of the windshield. that's when the vehicle really pops and turns everyone's eyes. just imagine how much more awesome it would be with a V6. hopefully by 2024 this will be a reality.
@MK3504
@MK3504 2 года назад
Keep dreaming bud. Why would they do that, transverse v6???
@jamesconway4821
@jamesconway4821 2 года назад
@@MK3504 more horsepower equals a higher price equals more profit
@Jacob-ox9wn
@Jacob-ox9wn 2 года назад
How many mpg did you get throughout that 😂
@gcampos5150
@gcampos5150 2 года назад
You can run track tires, and Not void your warranty. That's Wheels And Tires.
@davidbarlow372
@davidbarlow372 2 года назад
does the new motor mount help any better.....less wheel hop
@TonyStone3000
@TonyStone3000 2 года назад
The car doesn't have a wheel hop problem.
@vipiriusvt
@vipiriusvt 2 года назад
@@TonyStone3000 It absolutely does lmao I get wheel hop without even trying half the time
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
@@TonyStone3000 It does, but you do you.
@KingPin194
@KingPin194 2 года назад
I thought the sxth engine mount, was to make it find gears better. By reducing the engine torque. Perhaps that's why you were having difficulty downshift to second.
@TonyStone3000
@TonyStone3000 2 года назад
@@vipiriusvt Not the experience I'm having.
@MDaDonLegacy
@MDaDonLegacy 2 года назад
Awesome video, I have a tuned 6 speed M/T Elantra myself. I have to say though, you shift so hard.. Slamming it into gear, it was hard to watch. I knew it was going to lock out, then watching you attempt to jam it in gear during a lock out breaks my heart. I'm 35 years old and never owned an automatic car.. I've NEVER slammed a shifter around like that before, never at autocross and deff never on the streets... You can switch just as fast with a quick light slap of the shifter or even just 3 fingers flick it into gear. I know you're a small guy but still no need to be absolutely grabbing the shifter and just throwing it in gear like that.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Appreciate the insight, what series do you race in? The video doesn't do it justice, but yeah definitely not slamming it into gear. Do I shift fast? Yes. But there's not much force behind it. Keep in mind when he makes these videos he combs through hours of footage to specify the clip that most shows the issue. Also keep in mind, the trans never grinded a gear or anything, the gear just wasn't there.
@ll.7927
@ll.7927 2 года назад
This guy definitely doesn’t race.
@MDaDonLegacy
@MDaDonLegacy 2 года назад
@@ll.7927 Only thing I don't race is my Tacoma. My Elantra and E36 both get autocross'd. My RMZ 450 spends its days at the track. And if you really wanna get into it... iRacing on my Sim rig in VR, assetto corsa competizion. Then you have running marathons were I race my Nike's and cross country courses on my Trek 7. Sorry, what is racing?
@saynothingass
@saynothingass 2 года назад
I’m gen Z so maybe I don’t understand, but why does everyone bag on Hyundai? They’ve made some amazing cars lately.
@4drturbo85
@4drturbo85 Год назад
They are fan boys with no open minds
@Beezy_Builds
@Beezy_Builds 2 года назад
Got a like and sub from me
@josephdemyanovich2772
@josephdemyanovich2772 2 года назад
Fish car passes Porsche, what a time to be alive.
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
Salmon gang 👁️👄👁️
@sertyuhg
@sertyuhg 2 года назад
In one year this car will be on Carvana selling for a few Ks more than new, the sad part is that it will sell within a few days
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
I plan to keep this car for a while, so IDK about a year. But yes, in general you can sell new cars for over MSRP online which is dumb.
@stockey
@stockey 2 года назад
You would have broken the 1:20 with the DCT.
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Probably not given this track has only 4 shift points. In this case, the DCT weighs nearly 100 lbs more. Regardless even if it did over a second faster with DCT, I'd still get the manual.
@zxmurph1
@zxmurph1 2 года назад
@@williamrori1274 my man 👍
@ryanjones7202
@ryanjones7202 2 года назад
Id buy one of these in a heartbeat if it came in an AWD option or even a camry TRD if in AWD
@Tsand4
@Tsand4 2 года назад
C’mon bro a Camry TRD is a regular Camry with a pep boys aero kit. If your looking for performance the Camry isn’t in the same statusphere as the Elantra.
@ryanjones7202
@ryanjones7202 2 года назад
@@Tsand4 Elantra N would be my first choice but no AWD. I kinda like the look of the camry TRD ngl. Not sure the performance differences between the two tho
@Tsand4
@Tsand4 2 года назад
@@ryanjones7202 yea the Camry has no performance it’s just a appearance package. It has the regular N/A v6 no LSD and and very very slow 8sp tranny. As u can see in this vid the Elantra N straight out the box can do a full track day no problem and is a beast on track. That’s pretty much unheard of in it’s price point. It has a really good 2.0t LSD DCT or manual option. If you don’t care about performance and are just looking for looks I wouldn’t get the Elantra it’s pretty serious car. I think would be to stiff for you if not used to driving performance oriented cars.
@ryanjones7202
@ryanjones7202 2 года назад
@@Tsand4 I have had a WRX stage 2 in the past but for rid of it cause of its relibiliyy issues. Id much rather get something more performance oriented thats also reliable. Elantra N looks great, sounds great, and puts down some serious power for its price. I just wish these companies made AWD options at a similar price point and performance level for those who wanted a performance specific daily. That is the only reason a mazda 3 turbo hatch is on my list to check out but the elantra n is still better than it performance wise.
@ryanjones7202
@ryanjones7202 2 года назад
Only downside is mazda 3 turbo also has its limitations. Its a 6 speed with no LSD and had their own torque vectoring system and now no ML rear and replaced it with a torsion beam. So an AWD elantra N that has decent gas mileage on top of all that performance would be PERFECT
@blakebilodeau6005
@blakebilodeau6005 2 года назад
Back looks good. Front look HORRENDOUS! Could never see me driving this car regardless of how "fast" it is. Great video nonetheless, very informative.
@closg9309
@closg9309 2 года назад
Gotta get the all black N, hides it well.
@MK3504
@MK3504 2 года назад
Superficial dude with superficial views. Same type of mentality of "this car is soooo cool but it's a Hyundai."
@blakebilodeau6005
@blakebilodeau6005 2 года назад
@@MK3504 yea no shit Sherlock. That's why cars look different....because we buy them based on factors that are completely subjective to what we like. The way it looks from the outside being a very large factor. From your perspective every manufacturer should make their cars look identical and just have different motors since that's all that matters right?
@blakebilodeau6005
@blakebilodeau6005 2 года назад
@@MK3504 I drive a Hyundai BTW......because I LIKED the way it looked as well as having the features I wanted.
@MK3504
@MK3504 2 года назад
@@blakebilodeau6005 right from one statement you know me what a 🤡
@aono335
@aono335 2 года назад
I am the 69th like
@pattyboi
@pattyboi 2 года назад
My lord
@PR-nq4dt
@PR-nq4dt 2 года назад
If I had a dollar every time this guy said the word "like" I could afford to buy this Elantra. Like for real! 😁
@williamrori1274
@williamrori1274 2 года назад
Yeah, sorry. Not great on camera. There's a reason why they don't have engineers host shows.
@ryanking6811
@ryanking6811 9 месяцев назад
Ass
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