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2022 Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro | Better than a BMW GS? 

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Triumph claims their new Tiger 1200 beats the BMW R1250GS - but does it? In this Rally Pro version, Triumph has pulled out all the stops to make it as off-road capable as possible. How does it work? Let's find out.
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00:00 Intro
02:29 Riding Position
03:59 Drop Test!
06:21 Specs/Tour
11:20 Off Road
21:55 On Road
26:32 Engine Vibration
27:56 Competitors
33:00 Final Thoughts
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@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 года назад
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@TomReinerDE
@TomReinerDE 2 года назад
Ian, I will NEVER make fun of you for being out of shape. Dropping and then lifting the bike up again is a great service for your viewers and I REALLY appreciate you letting us watch you doing it.
@AdventureGlide
@AdventureGlide 2 года назад
Right
@sv650nyc7
@sv650nyc7 2 года назад
Exactly, the lift test alone makes your channel a must watch.
@hagestad
@hagestad Год назад
It would be nice if it was a proper drop not gentle one but we cant have everything. It would be nice to compare it to GS since those are suppose to be pretty rugged compared to competition.
@paulocelso68
@paulocelso68 Год назад
Agree.
@cmletona
@cmletona Год назад
This great review sealed the deal for me and I picked up my Tiger 1200 Rally Pro last week! I ran into Ian at the dealership and thanked him personally for great content and great reviews!!!Thx Ian.
@Tripplebeem
@Tripplebeem 2 года назад
I love how anytime I see an adventure bike online that I don't know about and I copy and paste the name of it into youtube, you are always there with some detailed information about it! Thank you!
@advredbikes
@advredbikes 2 года назад
Great Review Ian, you always give us what we want, Reviewing all the different models helps if we are looking for new bikes, thank you.
@jakubpla
@jakubpla Год назад
The most thorough bike reviews on YT. Love your channel even though I haven't ridden a bike in 15 years, think it's time for me to pick one up!
@ramoneortiz
@ramoneortiz 2 года назад
Great video. Had a ‘13 1200 GSA and had difficulty lifting it, so I appreciate the drop demonstration that you included. Keep the videos coming.
@jamesfairmind2247
@jamesfairmind2247 2 года назад
Top review, very considered and well balanced. Ultimately I think it is the most helpful review made about this particular model for anyone considering it as an option.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 года назад
Thanks.
@Carlnewman68
@Carlnewman68 2 года назад
I have to say within 3 sec I’m smiling, your choice of music is epic sp powerful , can’t wait to start it again and thank for this . Carl uk 🇬🇧
@emfl4437
@emfl4437 2 года назад
The drop tests and difficulty in picking up a bike is very insightful. Another great review, thanks for sharing
@trd4d
@trd4d Год назад
Far and above the best reviews out there. You almost had me sold on the bigger guy, but in the end, the 900 will be finding a home in my garage.
@johnnymashedpotatoes9978
@johnnymashedpotatoes9978 Год назад
Great review! I'm comparing the 1250GSA and Rally Explorer and this video answered a lot of questions. Great stuff! Thanks!
@rodhoover9158
@rodhoover9158 Год назад
Just bought one yesterday. Beautiful Machine. Thank you for your in-depth review. I adjusted my windshield and had minimal buffeting even with entire face-piece elevated above the helmet. Really appreciate you Ian!
@kee7678
@kee7678 2 года назад
The best, most real world, direct feedback, understandable, and well put review I've seen out there so far. Well done Ian. Excellent. I'm buying the Rally Pro 900 and am glad the GS has a worthy contender now too.
@manodehielo
@manodehielo Год назад
Hi from Spain. Thank you for including the metric system in yourtests. Great tests and videos.
@mervenstackaway
@mervenstackaway 2 года назад
Thanks Ian. I love the effort you go to.
@mikewoodall1599
@mikewoodall1599 Год назад
Great review💯👍. Thanks for the ride🙂.
@fauveride
@fauveride 2 года назад
Finally, a proper review is out! After you showed the trailer, I couldn't stand the wait and bought the r1250gs. After watching all the reviews, it seems like it would have been interesting to choose whichever one I chose.
@antcream61165
@antcream61165 2 года назад
Another great review Ian. Interesting you did the drop test comparison. I actually dropped a GS 1250 on a very steep camber edge...it went over so far it rolled past the boxer engine guards and was practically upside down !!
@0HARE
@0HARE Год назад
Excellent review of a great bike. I think this is the one for me. Thanks for the work you put into your channel, and all the information you provide. Happy Trails
@jasestorace9501
@jasestorace9501 2 года назад
Great video. Loving my new Rally Explorer 12, what an amazing machine.
@biker_marinator5696
@biker_marinator5696 2 года назад
as always, great review. It will be interesting to see the updated GS in a year or two
@lifesjourneyat50
@lifesjourneyat50 2 года назад
Like the new area for riding and always another great review...very compelling!!!
@kenscoots8177
@kenscoots8177 Год назад
Good review Ian! One way to improve the "turn-in" slowness, is to poke the forks up the triple tree a little to counter the 21" wheel. Did that to my Tiger 900 Rally, ride mainly on-road.
@kawabungah20
@kawabungah20 2 года назад
This is, by far, the most thorough and honest review of the Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro on the www. You laid all the cards out on the table! The drop test, the ride on the new off-road trail and the on-pavement demonstration with the 21-inch front wheel were all very helpful. The things that stick in my mind are: the Honda ATAS is the value leader, the BMW R1250GSA is a more refined package for about the same price, and, for me, the Triumph 900 Rally Pro would provide everything I need in a Triumph at a significantly lower price. Nevertheless, this 1200 Rally Pro is an impressive bike, especially with all of Triumph's improvements for the new model year. It was really fun riding along with you! Thank you.
@craigh8810
@craigh8810 Год назад
Theses videos have been super helpful to me trying to go from a cruiser the last 25 years to a more capable bike.(ADV). Was impressed yesterday with the tigers when I stopped at the dealership for the first time. Kinda felt out of my element and a little embarrassed, but I have to start somewhere I guess. Your straight forward videos are very refreshing. No BS. Some of the best out there.
@christopherg9806
@christopherg9806 Год назад
Good on you for trying something new! I switched to an ADV bike in 2018, after doing 17 years of sportbike touring. I'm TERRIBLE at riding offroad, but as you say, you have to start somewhere. Please be reassured, I (and probably most riders) wouldn't think poorly of you for being out of your element. It's great that you're branching out.
@Themotograndpa
@Themotograndpa 2 года назад
Thanks for the great review 👍 I live in the uk and bought the tiger rally pro 900 that’s great for me did a few mods put on Azande exhaust sounds great now and it also made throttle responses little better 👍
@crisjeria-adventurerider124
@crisjeria-adventurerider124 2 года назад
Great video as always. Thank u so much. I have been waiting for it since I got my 1250 GS last year. No regrets so far. The low centre of gravity and low-end power make the GS a great option if you do more technical rides; you just stay in second gear and don't need throttle. I have the GS Rallye X, and the ground clearance is the same as the T1200. On the other hand, the ride position on the 1250 GS gives you comfort and stability, increasing confidence, it is easier to ride compared to smaller GSs and easier to pick up, faster than you need, and in my opinion, the Rallye colours look awesome!
@rickhanna2606
@rickhanna2606 2 года назад
Hi Ian,long time subscriber and always value what you have to say,I watch alot of motorcycle utube reviews and one thing always screens in my head,that word is "SCOREBOARD"and 2nd is 40yrs,BMW has been making them for 40yrs,everybody tries to compare to them,when these other company's have a 40yr anniversary model then we can compare,until then gotta look at the scoreboard,your on the top of the scoreboard for bike and gear reviews,good job😜
@goaheadskinit
@goaheadskinit 2 месяца назад
Appreciate the thorough review. Thank you.
@PedroSilva-gb3gq
@PedroSilva-gb3gq 2 года назад
Drop test is such a good idea! Props to you. Cheers.
@Not.stationary
@Not.stationary 2 года назад
awesome review man i am gonna subscribe excellently done
@brucechilders1319
@brucechilders1319 2 года назад
I purchased this bike and just completed 4000 miles, some dirt and mostly payment he is right on point with this video, I killed it a few times until i adjusted to it. Knowing about the high rpm vibrations i put foam sleeves on the grips and not a significant issue. Can't wait to get rid of the stock tires, front tire started with the road noise you get on some tires when they start to wear. I have had a BMW but not the GS so can't compare. I like the fact in off road mode the bike lowers down a couple inches. Thanks for laying it down and picking it up, first video i saw someone do that for this bike. Having a Goldwing I bought the Triumph tiger to discover the dirt back roads in Arizona.
@k.harshitkarthik5980
@k.harshitkarthik5980 2 года назад
Love watching your videos!
@danemoll4065
@danemoll4065 Год назад
Excellent review! I just test drove a rally pro 900 and 1200 in Fresno today. I am 2017 dct Africa Twin 1000 owner. I would consider the 1200. I did notice vibrating in pegs and handlebars. I loved the torque. I did stall out once in town. The quick shifter is smoother than my 22 Hayabusa. Thanks again.
@ZuminaZX
@ZuminaZX 2 года назад
Ian, thanks for touching on the fact that this class of bike is more techno barge than ADV bike.
@danieljonsson6154
@danieljonsson6154 2 года назад
Realy like your bike reviews, they are both informative and entertaining. Your experience and the real life tests makes you and Dave (MAD) my RU-vid favorits. Keep up the good woork. /KTM 950 A
@oldtimer3824
@oldtimer3824 2 года назад
This review makes me appreciate the perfectly smooth linear fueling of my 2017 Africa Twin - without any throttle or clutch AT can chug at 5-6 mph off-road and without jerkiness, then throttling up to 12 mph, shift from first into second, then without any throttle AT chugs along at 12 to 14 mph. But no cruise control on a 2017 AT? For 960 I bought and installed Mccruise electronic cruise control. I think my 2017 AT is my forever ADV machine.
@chrishughes4169
@chrishughes4169 2 года назад
Great video as always man, One thing though.... you talked quite a bit about how it stacks up against the Africa Twin, I imagine because thats your current heavyweight tourer. I was hoping for more of a comparison with the BMW, but I know it was brought up frequently as well. Thank you!
@mentz8915
@mentz8915 Год назад
Great review as well as your review of the GT Pro! I’d consider one but I’m in love with my DCT Africa Twin, nothing else like it 😎👍
@sethruter
@sethruter 2 года назад
Great review Ian, you also need to get your hands on a Multistrada V4S, I love mine and is great off road in Enduro mode, 8 level traction control, haven't seen you test any yet but wanted to throw that idea out there.
@patrickcooper9641
@patrickcooper9641 2 года назад
The 1290 R is fantastic. I have a GSA and never had a complaint. Haven't tried the TT yet!
@TheSkippydude
@TheSkippydude 2 года назад
Very enjoyable viewing chief!
@jimmin9802
@jimmin9802 Год назад
Just bought a triple black 1200, watched and rewatched your videos and at my height this just felt right. Overkill? Sure but you only live once! Warranty is pretty awesome as well and the dealer worked with me, very friendly And triumph has 1k back and free paniers w mounts for april, no way i could have gotten a gs at this price and i tried. You have a great channel and the future camera girl is too cute!
@mikemills5144
@mikemills5144 2 года назад
Thanks for the drop test...note to self, don't drop this sucker! Overall an excellent review and great comment about leaving it in second, it will just torque along, even on the road. The one other point I will give the GS is the amount of accessories is massive, this just does not have anything available yet. I would really like to get a larger screen and some side racks but will have to wait for the aftermarket to catch up.
@paproplop
@paproplop Год назад
Thanks for your review! I test rode this model also but i felt that the 900 version is much more engaging and fun for me.
@creedm3040
@creedm3040 2 года назад
Great review and honest thoughts. I remember in college marketing class the greatest compliment is when everyone is comparing themselves to you. The biggest thing here is the the Triumph triple. What a sound! All the ones you mentioned are awesome bikes. No doubt. I own a ‘22 GS primarily because the dealer is 15 minutes from my house versus over an hour for the Triumph or Ducati. Just makes it easier for service and its a great dealership. And its a great bike. Mine came with the Enduro Pro and Dynamic Pro so adjustment is endless. Enjoy your videos! Best!
@creedm3040
@creedm3040 2 года назад
Probably because of my age . Please let the blade down on that quad. At least rest it on firewood. Just saying. Little safer. Just thinking about your beautiful little girl. What a doll! Best!
@skipole09
@skipole09 Год назад
Great review Ian, thorough and hits all the key points. I’m debating on a 1250 vs one of these (currently own a 1200gsa) and hear what you’re saying on the refinement piece..GS’s are so good, but sometimes the boxer motor isn’t quite as fun to ride as some of the competitors these days. This bike seems to be slightly more well rounded than the GS, but I guess it depends what you’re after.
@mikemerrill175
@mikemerrill175 2 года назад
When the competition targets the GS as the benchmark, it’s clear that the best choice is the GS.
@kitesurfnutter
@kitesurfnutter 2 года назад
Everyone's perception is that the BMW is best. My physical stature prevents me from riding the GS. The GSA is a little bit better. but still not comfortable.
@ibmujic4764
@ibmujic4764 2 года назад
If GSA is not comfortable then you should drive just a Mercedes s class
@kitesurfnutter
@kitesurfnutter 2 года назад
@@ibmujic4764 Thank You for your useless comment. But maybe you should re read my post. I was not saying the BMW is bad, I’m saying for my height and build Triumph was more comfortable when I test rode it…
@Gnerko123
@Gnerko123 Год назад
@@kitesurfnutter why, are you too tall? You can put the same windshield, seat and risers on a gs that are on the gsa. Only remaining difference is that your legs are more spread out on the gsa versus the gs due to the larger tank.
@kitesurfnutter
@kitesurfnutter Год назад
@@Gnerko123 The seat height, screen height was never a problem… it’s the Boxer Engine and it’s cylinder heads. Cause of my long legs multiple time on and of the bike I hit my shins on cylinder heads hitting brakes knees and shins hit the crash bars…
@motocrusader72
@motocrusader72 Год назад
Always great. Thank you and keep it coming. Can you do a “fashion” segment and tell us about your kit? (If already have that, please say where)
@SpringfieldFatts
@SpringfieldFatts 2 года назад
Excellent review as always. I think when it comes to these big bikes it would make sense doing the drop/lift test. Not so much the CB500X or something. Also man I blame you for making me trawl the net for used Africa Twins now. . .
@tobymayo72
@tobymayo72 2 года назад
Great review! Thank you.
@Romit277
@Romit277 2 года назад
All the information was very good in detail
@dennism665
@dennism665 2 года назад
Again, another great review Ian. I’m reviewing choices for the next phase of my riding and am leaning heavily toward the 22 Africa Twin AS DCT. I really wish they had a shaft like my Goldwing. The Triumph looks like a good choice, but those issues of slow speed jerkiness, for whatever reason, give me pause. And then there’s price. Still, a nice bike and thanks for all your efforts. Your reviews are best in class in my opinion. I’m sure the R1250GS is a fine bike. But I’m just not a BMW fan. They just seem over-engineered, and pricey to service.
@AdamLewis1
@AdamLewis1 2 года назад
Excellent review - Thanks for all the work you do, Ian! I really like this bike but, at the end of the day, one of the things that matters the most to me is the incredible low-end torque from my GS. The difference is really made clear by the low-speed stalling.
@straycat1115
@straycat1115 2 года назад
PS gewinnt am Stammtisch, Drehmoment auf der Straße, as the old saying goes: horsepower wins at the regular table, torque on the road..greetings from Germany
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 года назад
Agreed about the torque
@UnicornMoto
@UnicornMoto Год назад
Great perspective! Thanks!
@chrissahlstrom8939
@chrissahlstrom8939 2 года назад
I almost bought the africa twin. It wasnt exciting enough. Went with the 1290 super adventure r. Wow what a bike so happy with my purchase and looking forward to your review of that bike
@jesseonamotorcycle
@jesseonamotorcycle Год назад
Great video bro 🔥👍🏼✌🏼 I’m thinking of getting one.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 2 года назад
Nice riding Ian! Great to see you give ‘er the beans! But that stalling out so easy at low rpm - that’s a deal-killer on an ADV. My GS has never stalled in a normal situation, the Boxer motor loves to lug & tug. I’d get the GT and wind out the triple on tarmac.
@cliffordzehmke5650
@cliffordzehmke5650 Год назад
Great reviews, from south Africa
@mehdibb4186
@mehdibb4186 2 года назад
Excellent detailed review ! very informative . Would love to see the GS vs the Ducati multistrada
@nickwirdnam7316
@nickwirdnam7316 2 года назад
A really balanced review. Thanks
@brucekendall52
@brucekendall52 2 года назад
Great value input.Thanks.
@gsd32i
@gsd32i 2 года назад
We can all get in a bit of a head muddle about which bike to go for . Keep it simple , what’s my budget ? What am I using the bike for ? And do I go into the man cave and go “yup love that bike “ and do you look back at the bike as you leave the garage ? My new GS triple black with all the bling 719 does that for me . Bottom line is go out and ride the bike you are interested in . No bad bikes in this category, enjoy whatever you have 👍
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 2 года назад
Thanks again for another Great Video. I learn a Lot from your Videos, and watched your Videos with the GS1200 before I got mine. The R1200GS is just hard to beat Period. I love the Anti Dive front end on the GS. Also the Low Center of Gravity, and the fact that it doesn’t fall flat. I’m 61 Years old and can barely pick up the GS. There’s no way I could get a Bike up that lays flat. I have been riding my whole Life from Motorcross to Road Racing. I have never been more comfortable Riding than I am on the GS. I’m Disabled, and the GS is the only Bike I can ride that the ergonomics are so comfortable, I don’t hurt. I actually traded my Harley for the GS because the Harley made my Back hurt, not to mention the Heat. I don’t feel any Heat From the GS Engine.👍
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 года назад
You can't beat the GS
@HDlife518
@HDlife518 Год назад
Which year do you have GSA? No heat felt from exhaust either?
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 Год назад
@@HDlife518 I have a 2006 1200GS. It has about 38,000 Miles on it. I can turn the ABS off for off road riding. It doesn’t have all the Modern Electronics but that’s fine with me. Because of the Heat and Ergonomics of the Harley. I would hurt before I got to the Store, a mile away. I have 4 Fusions in my Neck and 2 in my Lower Back. Because of the Seating position and Ergonomics of the GS. I don’t hurt really at all. I also don’t notice any Heat from the GS. I Love it. I’m a Disabled Veteran and can’t afford a newer one, but I’m fine on this one.
@HDlife518
@HDlife518 Год назад
@@joeybobbie1 thank you, I’m in the same boat as yourself with back issues and currently have a 16 street glide special that I’m selling and looking into the GSA 1250, or Tiger. But probably going BMW since better overall ride. My Harley heats me up in the summer and beats up my back too much!
@joeybobbie1
@joeybobbie1 Год назад
@@HDlife518 that’s the same problem I had with my Wide Glide. You asked about the Exhaust if it was hot on the GS. It’s not. It’s tucked away where you can’t get a Leg on it. I don’t feel any heat from the Exhaust either. It’s really nice after riding Harleys for Years. After Riding the GS, I won’t ever go back to a Harley. It’s that much of a difference. Good luck on selling your Harley. You will be glad you got the Gs.
@jimalbuquerque1764
@jimalbuquerque1764 2 года назад
Great review Ian. I would love for you to touch on the maintenance intervals such as valve checks, how easy or difficult to replace air filter, ease of oil change access ie skid plate removal etc. I think it’s important to know what bikes are maintenance friendly when considering a purchase. Keep up the great reviews!
@MathiasKarlssonErik
@MathiasKarlssonErik 2 года назад
Maintenance interval is 16000km or about 11000 miles ... Stuff seems accessible ... but I wont do that ;)
@jimalbuquerque1764
@jimalbuquerque1764 2 года назад
Thank you for the info. Actually going forward I’d like to have Ian touch on the maintenance items I listed in all future reviews.
@MLoms
@MLoms 2 года назад
Thank you. Nice review. My thoughts of this being an overkill over tiger 900 are the same.
@ridingwithmarshall
@ridingwithmarshall Год назад
Ian, I want to say how much I love your videos. I can count on you to talk about the little things that make or break a bike decision for me. The Tiger stalls at slow turns; you're not the first I've heard that from. When I get nervous on a sandy hill and want to turn around, I don't need stalling anxiety too. The GS (and anything DCT) will win this round. Anyway, You have a gift for staying on topic with no script, and I stammer around pretty bad at that. You cover all the bases. If you are ever vacationing in Colorado, let me know, we'll ride. Two questions, and I only ask for an answer on one: 1. Have you had any issue with your GoPro only recording on 1 channel with the media kit? 2. What is with the urine-sample clutch and brake reservoirs on a Tiger off-road machine? I haven't seen something so cheap since my last V-star 950!
@Warerdog24
@Warerdog24 2 года назад
Great review you have given me lots to think about . What should my next bike be ?
@AdventureGlide
@AdventureGlide 2 года назад
What a fantastic sounding engine. I'd be brapping that thing all day long. I bet with a nice pipe, it sounds incredible. Great Video thanks for sharing this.
@brianharradine8130
@brianharradine8130 2 года назад
Great review, agree with your comment that many large size adventure bikes are overkill and many mid size bikes provide sufficient hp and torque to suit the majority of riders
@ajojoseph6052
@ajojoseph6052 Год назад
Love the head and heart comparison. That’s how motorcycles choices are made. Like you to revisit this video in 12-15 months and see the sales numbers. In all probability the GS will be the sales king and with the new 1300, it’s will seal the GS even further.
@asatti
@asatti 2 года назад
Great review as always. Just a comment on the clutch engagement. It feels weird because I think when you let the clutch out it revs up automatically I guess to stop you from staling. When I tested the GT Pro I did not like that
@stylesbitchly9931
@stylesbitchly9931 2 года назад
Another great review. A couple more things that impact my decision making when purchasing. What is it going to cost to maintain and accessorize your motorcycle. That’s the real eye opener for me and my wallet.
@PapaDougsAdventures01
@PapaDougsAdventures01 2 года назад
I rode the Tiger 1200 Rally Pro at the Touratech rally and found it to be a fine bike. I would have to get the Explorer model for the extended range. I have the 1250 GS Adventure and I NEVER have range anxiety. I always had range anxiety with my previous GS. I do like that the Tiger doesn’t have the huge jugs(and not in a good way) that the BMW has. I also like the windshield adjustment much better. Another great review thanks
@hawgietonight
@hawgietonight 2 года назад
Thanks Ian for the review. Sounds like they rushed the release of this model. Bad fueling and engine vibrations shouldn't be present on a bike at this price level.
@rpmotocross
@rpmotocross 2 года назад
As always, such an excellent video with outstanding insight. I’m hoping you get a chance to review a KTM 1290 Super Adventure R as I am looking to replace my R1200GSA with either a R1250GSA, this Triumph or the KTM 1290 SAR. Your videos are always full of GREAT takeaways. Thanks so much!
@jimmallery294
@jimmallery294 Год назад
The telelever suspension makes the BMW much more stable in buffeting wind like riding at highway speeds passing trucks. The triangle in deference to traditional forks makes it both very stable and eliminates any front brake diving. The feel on the BMW is that the front rides about an inch or two off the pavement. It is excellent for very long days on the bike coupled with the smaller front wheel that (as you indicate) tends to be better for on highway riding. The more traditional front forks on the Tiger are better off road but coupled with the 21 inch front wheel will cause it to be less stable at higher highway speeds when encountering windy conditions. I tend to view the 21 inch front tire as a detraction of the Tiger not an asset. Try at 45 mph (or any speed really) pushing the bars one way or the other and see if it centers and how quickly or if the bike just wants to wander around. Most of the time a 21 inch bike has a slightly different geometry to compensate for the larger wheel so what do you gain except being able to go over bigger off road obstacles easier. But on the highway the gain with the 21 inch wheel is almost negative. For long 600 mile days the BMW is more comfortable. On the Tigers asset side is the more exciting engine and better off road performance. As far as the off idle stumble of the Tiger that could be partly due to riding the BMW and being used to the almost perfect linear power performance idle to max, while the Tiger's power delivery is definitely more exciting. It does buzz some and some of the stumble off idle can be mitigated to some extent using different ride modes as the modes can limit how fast the power is delivered. You never really mentioned long distance high mileage days as a criteria that many adventure bike riders often undertake. You are also remiss in mentioning anything about two up riding comparing the bikes ride quality for the passenger. For a brutally honest review high speed interstate wind buffeting/stability and passenger comfort would be part and parcel of any large adventure bike review.
@Oldrush
@Oldrush 2 года назад
Nice review, thank you. I would like to know your thoughts comparing the Africa Twin with the DCT off road? I’m really liking this Triumph with that engine and the shaft drive with spoked wheels. I currently have the ATASESDCT.
@gingernaut2550
@gingernaut2550 Год назад
New subscriber, new to riding. I bought a Yamaha bolt R spec this summer. I've realized your first bike teaches you a lot about what you want in a second bike. I'm becoming obsessed with the idea of adventure bikes for camping and road trips. your channel has been a big help! One stat I'd like to see more channels speak to would be total weigh capacity of bikes. I know its not a huge problem for most riders, but I'm a 300 lb former Strongman competitor, and it seems like riding 2 up might not be a reality on an ADV bike as many top out under 500 lbs total. doesn't leave a lot of capacity for the wife, gear, hard case storage etc. Surprisingly tough stat to find even on manufacturer sites even.
@jesseonamotorcycle
@jesseonamotorcycle Год назад
Welcome to the world of two wheels, How are you liking it?
@gingernaut2550
@gingernaut2550 Год назад
@@jesseonamotorcycle Thanks! Loving it now even more than 2 months ago! Took the wife to a harley dealership, it was a set up. She was hell bent to wait 2 more years before the dream bike. So I convinced her to just come sit on a road king. They were sold out, but she really loved the street glide. Walking out she says " wellllll maybe we can talk about treating up next year...." wanted to propose all over again😂
@witofthestaircase1
@witofthestaircase1 2 года назад
That laying down & picking up is box office. Impressive.
@markg7834
@markg7834 2 года назад
Very nice review. Keep up the great work. I would readily consider this machine except for the following: a lack of Triumph dealerships in the middle portion of the USA. Honda and Yamaha have much better market penetration everywhere and, from my research, seem to have better reliability. However, YMMV, and this in only my view, anyway.
@milesdavis8665
@milesdavis8665 2 года назад
Excellent review as always Ian. That bike looks lean compared to the outgoing model
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 года назад
The old one was a cow
@milesdavis8665
@milesdavis8665 2 года назад
@@BigRockMoto 😆 yes it was. But I did enjoy riding it.
@wayneh8767
@wayneh8767 2 года назад
That was 😁 funny! "I can tell Truimph did a better job on the suspension.....oufff!! 😆 very cool looking bike, too tall first gear for sure. Another great BRM video!
@chamade166
@chamade166 2 года назад
I was going to buy one of these, but ended up with a used GS and glad I did.
@benwells2338
@benwells2338 2 года назад
Oy…seeing that drop test…it’s honestly giving me hesitation over the GT Pro model now. Plenty of reviewers have said the new 1200 feels nearly the same as the 900 in it being nimble and feeling physically slim. Put two and two together and I guess it only makes sense that a bike that feels thin would also lie flat when on its side. Thank you for including that in your review, I hadn’t considered that aspect in my comparisons.
@ohenrycooper
@ohenrycooper 10 месяцев назад
I love the fact that everything you compare to the GS and the GS usually wins, hands down. Great review, this bike doesn't check that box for me. I will wait for the GSA 1300
@marcs990
@marcs990 Год назад
@Bog Rock Moto It would be great to see you actually go on a long range tour, maybe with friends & give your findings at the end of each day. You can go south to Central America & get some great off road trails or go north to Canada 🇨🇦. Thanks for the content from across the pond in England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😁
@Washoejim
@Washoejim 9 месяцев назад
Good video, and comparison to other big adventure touring machines.
@Desmo904
@Desmo904 2 года назад
I have a feeling that bikes with Euro5 compliance are made so lean low down that stalling is a real issue. I know that Scrambler 900/1200 Triumphs fair much better once they are fitted with a 'booster plug' in the airbox inlet to richen up the lower end. This stops the stalling and also provides a low end boost. Great review (one of the best on this bike anywhere)! One thing that does puzzle me is if it's the Rally Pro model, why fit it with road biased tyres? Hello? Rally!
@larrylund1138
@larrylund1138 2 года назад
Thx Ian, another very good review and Vlog. Right now I'm riding a 22 KLR for my off-road fun and a 2014 R1200RT for my on road which I also enjoy a lot. I would really consider the 900 Pro if I was to narrow things down to 1 ride based on your reviews and some of the others. You really do keep things interesting with your knowledge and skills and video expertise. Thx Ps. There is a new 2022 KLR Clutch Switch Bypass Mod which makes the bike feel like it has been remapped and really improves the over all ride of the KLR. Maybe catch the Vid by 2TallTim Touring.
@ohTHATaaronbrown
@ohTHATaaronbrown 2 года назад
I think your overkill comments are spot on. That's why I opted for the 900 Rally Pro. I get all the power I need from it, both on-and-off road. Weight was also a big factor for me. I traded a previous generation Tiger 1200 (the 2020 Alpine, which was the road-focused model) for the 2022 900 RP after I took a week long trip into the Texas desert with friends, and had to pick up that huge heavy 1200 multiple times while pushing out of my comfort zone in deep and soft sand. A 1200 gets exhaustingly heavy in those conditions. If I were going to spend more time on the tarmac than I do, I would go with the 1200 GT Explorer, with no doubt in my mind at all. It's hands-down the best distance touring bike I've ridden. But, given the fact that those paths through the woods and the desert increasingly call my name, the lighter and smaller 900 RP was the right choice. For me. I also agree with you that Triumph does a great job here offering well thought-out options that are tailored toward very specific types of riders, and there's probably exactly the right bike for whatever type of riding someone is contemplating somewhere in their model range.
@KiwiMoto72
@KiwiMoto72 Год назад
super interesting - thx for this. I am considering a Tiger 900 Rally Pro too
@4N2IN0JA
@4N2IN0JA Год назад
The KLR got a blanket under it and the Triumph is laying in the dirt 😝 just messing. Great in depth video, The 900 Rally pro would be the one for me.
@ryanmalone2681
@ryanmalone2681 2 года назад
I loved the suspension on my 900 rally pro. With the suspension and the 21” front wheel I was able to float over some really gnarly pure rock sections where it was uphill and I needed to keep my speed up to keep momentum.
@BigRockMoto
@BigRockMoto 2 года назад
Agree, very good suspension
@dalebridle6826
@dalebridle6826 2 года назад
Great review, just delivered the GT Explorer, brilliant bike…
@pascallenoir5917
@pascallenoir5917 2 года назад
Hi Dale ! How would you consider your machine for touring: what about noise, what about vibrations, especially cruising at 70/80 mph ? Thanks
@jeremymlucy
@jeremymlucy 2 года назад
@@pascallenoir5917 vibrations are truly a non-issue at 70-80 mph. The revs are not high enough to get into the vibrations that so many comment about. And honestly, to me even in the high rpm range the vibrations aren’t much worse than most other bikes I’ve ridden. Certainly not as smooth as the older even firing order triples, but not near as bad as adventuring on my KTM 500 EXC-F thumper!
@GowTham-rt8zq
@GowTham-rt8zq 2 года назад
Very well balanced video bro. Could u make video on rally explorer
@peterusa6985
@peterusa6985 2 года назад
Ian great review as always 👍 Backpack you wearing is that Klim Nac Pak or something else?
@richardd9976
@richardd9976 2 года назад
Excellent review, thanks. Having covered 25k miles on an R1250GS, I switched to a Tiger GT Explorer a couple of months ago. As you say, Triumph offer a more tailored model choice, so I went with on-road focus together with the 30 litre tank, which suits my needs and usage. The Tiger is certainly a more engaging bike although in some ways less refined than the BMW. Horses for courses, I guess, but so far, I have zero regrets about making the switch to Triumph. Keep up the good work.
@awesomeagnihotrisvlog
@awesomeagnihotrisvlog Год назад
Do you ever miss the insane torque of 1250 GS mate??
@marcin76454
@marcin76454 Год назад
One thing I have noticed comparing Triumph vs BMW is headlight is better in GS due to its automatic leveling. Although in Triumph is also some kind of auto leveling byt it doesn't work as good as BMW.
@Missin44
@Missin44 Год назад
Since the 2023 Tiger 1200 is a pretty major redesign I would love to see you review it.
@RayzGarage
@RayzGarage 2 года назад
I owned the first year Explorer Launch model. The throttle responce was something you get used to. Easy peasy
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