2023 Toyota Tundra Towing Up 6% Grade + Real World MPG: Did I Overload This Truck Towing 9k??? 

Agreed, but of the two companies only Toyota would be in the position to do so (and they wouldn't do it anyway). The Titan is the worst selling pickup in the US and Nissan itself doesn't have a great name for many reasons, setting aside their money issues. Toyota only makes the Tundra in and for the US market as far as I'm aware and the invest for them to move into HD would be steep. A big part of the HD market is businesses and fleets, neither of which are Toyota's demographic in the US, on top of the fact that the Tundras are a bit overpriced when compared to the big 3. Toyota doesn't have nearly the build options and customization available for their vehicles either- this is less of an impact for consumer vehicles but more so when moving into HD. They make a few trim levels that have a couple minor options and that's it- you get what you get. Toyota doesn't have any diesels in the US and neither their diesel or gas V8s are anywhere close to the realm of capability that the US manufacturers have. The HD market is very competitive and saturated, so from an investment perspective it doesn't really make sense for Toyota to push into that anyway- they are smarter with their money than pretty much all other manufacturers. Toyota doesn't really take risks, which sucks sometimes, but benefits both them and their customers most of the time.

@@sly9263 totally agree. I think this late in the game it is a real challenge. It’s a darn shame the Titan doesn’t sell better as I really enjoyed mine. That being said it is worth noting that generally speaking I feel like the HD trucks are where the domestic manufacturers have built some serious no nonsense vehicles. While not for everyone, I have a feeling that the failure rates on their HD products are probably the lowest of all their lines.

Shacking up the HD market would be awesome especially if they can keep pricing down compared to the big3. Problem is Toyota couldn’t produce the truck alone and would need to develop the truck with another manufacture to make it happen but hopefully someone will shake it up, it needs it badly 👍🏾👍🏾

If only they’d try HDs but they’ve said multiple times they have no interest in that market. Which is very odd because I’ve seen a lot of “fleet” vehicles that are tacomas and other models.

@@TonkaFire2019 I mean, you say say "a lot" subjectively, but I have visibility to 60% of government fleets in the US, as well as major oil companies and transits. There are next to no Tacomas being used- it wouldn't come up on a list of top 50

Yup, 300#’s over RGAWR with no equipment in the truck and car inside trailer is primarily being handled by trailer axles so there’s that too. I believe Fords max tow increases rear axle rating but weight distribution is key with these lighter trucks 👍🏾

Bullshit you bought your truck for 53k. Maybe that was the sale price but if you financed, it definitely wasn’t the out the door price. And if you make the argument that you paid cash, you’re a bozo if you think everyone can do that. People have trouble saving 5k nowadays.

I know that 1/2 tons check a lot of boxes for comfort and size but this video opened my eyes about the axle ratings these trucks have. You literally are exceeding axles before GVWR and I know some people are going to say to use a WDH but that’s not gonna solve 300#’s of weight because the air suspension lifted the truck back up. Ultimately these trucks have a primary purpose of passenger and load carrying and this video really should sway people to look for smaller trailers if they plan on purchasing this truck. Thanks James 👍🏾👍🏾

@@JB_WhoWork Planning on taking my wife and dogs out using a tundra sr5 trd off road with a 3150 lbs camper unloaded. so dog weight + people weight = 500 lbs, and will probably load the camper with about 400 lbs of stuff, and the truck with 150 lbs of stuff. From what I saw on the video, I imagine I should be more then fine, but just wanted to hear your opinion.

Not everyone wants a fucking 3/4 ton the 95% of the time they don’t tow. And the added maintenance that comes with a diesel if equipped. If you stick to 55 and balance your load properly, you can tow near or at max rating with ease.

@@aarons7886 bruh I towed a 6500lb wet camper with my built 2019 Tacoma from SoCal to Oregon and got snowed on through one of the passes I drove through. Although I had heavier springs and better AT tires, my truck did flawless and I even averaged 9-12 mpg. You’ll be fine, despite the shit people like to talk Tundras are overbuilt for a half-ton. Stick to 55 and air your tires accordingly, you’ll be fine. Most of these jackoffs preaching 3/4 tons are the same assholes blowing by you at 80mph with their trailers hooked up on the interstate.

I actually found a 2020 GMC 1500 with the diesel so I may put it together for next month! 😃 mileage btw!

@@JB_WhoWork yeah the diesel torque is so much better than any gasser I own! It tows my RV better than my 2019 6.4 Hemi Ram 2500! Prefer the Silverado 3.0!!!

Thanks bro, anything over 5K should be considered HD territory 👍🏾

Yup, that extra weight you get with an HD is hard to overlook!

He's in Utah, Lehi/ Saratoga Springs area. I live near by and drive through these roads every day.

If the truck had the tow mirrors, it’s only going to make the experience better but I wouldn’t buy them after because I felt like the standard ones did fine 👍🏾

@@JB_WhoWork Thanks for taking the time to make the video and reply!

Yeah these people want to make the truck look bad it’s the Point lol

And, how was the car positioned in the trailer, could have just been too much front weight.

That is true, but the WDH would have also put him over the GVWR due to the extra weight of the WDH

@@jefflazo2365 you think a WDH weighs 105 lbs over a regular hitch?

@@ArkansaDave1 depending on what hitch was used for the testing and what WDH gets used, it could, and if not, it would be close

It would. I have the new Tundra and tow a 297RSTS reflection, truck worked like advertised.

At least with Chevy they do give the option (or at least they did) to get max tow which upgraded rear axle rating. 22’ trailer is fine for a 1/2 ton and I’m sure it pulls great with you’re setup 👍🏾👍🏾

I didn’t see that it was when I pushed it but maybe for hybrid

It Does have a tow plus mode on all the tundra and it downs shifts amazing

Next time I tow with a Tundra, I will be sure to try it out but if I tried to do it manually, it should have still worked

@@JB_WhoWork it definitely worked with the 9500 pound trailer. I was pulling when it was in Plus mode not so much in the regular mode but I agree you should be able to manually choose your selection but I’m assuming it’s like he said probably a safety thing for them.

Dude I was appalled by the CAT scale sticker lol! I was expecting to be over by at least 100#’s on GVWR and under the axle by about the same but 300#’s over rear axles!?!?!? Toyota clearly doesn’t want you to tow with this truck especially when they have a higher GVWR available for the heavier trims/Powertrain. I agree with you that this is too big of a trailer but the air suspension and longer bed really did enhance stability! thanks 👍🏾👍🏾

@@JB_WhoWork yes. The long bed would be the only way to go if you have to go with a 1500. They are hard to find but worth it. The short bed is about useless for hauling anything big.

🤣🤣🤣 that definitely would have helped the RGAWR 👍🏾👍🏾💪🏾🇺🇸

Some of the competitors you mentioned have payloads over 1500#’s but this video shines a lot of light on axle ratings being to under rated. If a truck has payload over 1500#’s, it should have at least a 4200# axle at the minimum. Titan XD is a incredible truck that should get more recognition but Nissan is not great with advertising the truck 👍🏾

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That was the old tundra with the V-8 not the new tundra. The new tundra is nowhere near as good as the old truck. I know I have two of the old tundras and have tried the new tundra it is nowhere near as good as the old ones.

, the old Gen2 5.7 was overbuilt and was actually made for towing, this new Gen3 Tundra is a passenger vehicle grocery getter