292 INTAKE SHOOTOUT-FAIL! 

Does it ever go perfect? Yes, always. I've never: Busted my knuckles Been burned by touching something hot. Stripped a bolt. Cross threaded a nut. Cross threaded a bolt. Got the wrong part(s). Got the wrong parts again. Lost tools. Broke tools. Bought the wrong tool. Burrowed the wrong tool. Made the wrong tool work anyway. Performed a basic repair only to find out something mysteriously went wrong with a completely unrelated part. Had to redo a basic job (mostly brakes). Spilled any one of about 2 dozen fluids. Broke drill bits. Broke taps. Broke a drill bit drilling out a broken tap. Got dirt in my eyes. Got rust in my eyes. Got any number of over a dozen fluids in my eyes. Got metal in my eyes. Flashed my eyes with a welder. Never once. ;)

It's funny, Inline 6 guys love all Inline 6 engines brands be damned. I've had 300 Fords, 250 Chevy's, and 225 Mopars and loved them all.

Everything goes wrong after the auto parts store closes for the night...

i love inline 6's... built a 194 chevy in 1974, 60 milled head, w/202 & 194 valves and v8 springs with a TRW high lift cam (>600 lift) headers. over 250 hp. sold the chevy II (1967 sedan) to a local super stock racer. He ran so fast he had to cage the car... all done with my engine.

I love to see you simply put an HEI distributor on this motor then redo the tests. When I switched to an HEI it seemed like it made a bigger difference than doing the intake and adding a 4 barrel. Of course the intake and carb will support all the other upgrades, but in stock form, the better ignition was a huge upgrade. I’m currently building a 292 and can’t wait to see how this series turns out.

Did they ever make a triple Weber set up for these! Love to see this with a wild cam and head!!!😀Loving this 292 series of vid’s.

The late version of these engines had an H.E.I.

Great life lessons I never would have expected for this kinda content.

Really hope you finish this test one day. I'm looking to build a 292 for my C10 and this series has been really helpful and I feel like this intake test, especially the offy with double 2 barrels and turbo would be interesting to see

I can't wait to see these intake combos compared on the modified engine - compression, cam and head, but having said that, it's been great to see how they all work on the stocker, as it'd be rare to see someone take such a path, particularly with the 'wilder' 4bbl variants. Loving this!!!

thank you for your time & all the work you do.

So Richard, you are saying this test is pointless!

Great stuff, really enjoying the good,the bad and the ugly of this engine.

Just keep doing what ur doing and don’t worry about the content! This is real world stuff and coming along for the journey with wins and fails is all part of the fun 👍

A simple switch to an HEI distributor will get you more horsepower and smoothing running. I never thought it made that much of a difference until I replaced the points distributor on my Chevy 250 6 cyl. Plus with HEI you get longer dwell and aren't limited by point bounce, etc.😉

Richard I was starting to get concerned. I was expecting this, this morning and well nothing.🥺 You've spoiled us. Keep up the good work.👍

Love that you show the failures- great video. Did I ever tell you about the time I got my 4cylinder, 5valve, DOHC fuel injected engine all set up and ready to go on the dyno, but it wouldn't start? They're like that when you forget to bolt the internal trigger wheel to the crankshaft. Never been so embarrassed.

Son of a gun, sometimes the smallest, cheapest component can through a wrench into the best laid plans. Glad you figured out what the problem was and in the future,we will be able to watch more combinations on this big six. Keep up the good work.👍

Oh man, you had me going. I thought the little 292 blew up lol. Glad to to hear it's just the points. Your right s@#t happens all the time working on cars. Thanks for the test Richard.

YES! Do everything thing you want to do!!!! Here sitting on the edge of my seat!

Hey Richard , Thanks for giving us what you had on that stocker 292 , hope you are able to finish up soon like you had planned . Too bad you run out of time , good stuff man !! Thanks Dan Fager

Richard was so upset that when he got home his Everlast bag failed before he could get a punch in.

By god you`re honest. It`s refreshing. I enjoy your videos very much, I don`t have access to a dyno any more so I watch yours for any information I can get. I`d really like to see how you map some of those fuel injection parameters some day

Hey Richard, really enjoyed the 292 testing! Please keep this project rolling. Looking with interest, as I'm planning to rebuild my 292 shortly and throw on a few power adding mods while I'm at it.

I'm an amc 258 guy so I'm loving this series of test you're doing. I do think you need to get real with cam changes and a head mill to get at least 9.5 compression. Also on the last test you turned the carburetor. I've had issues with the vacuum signal being stronger on the inboard primary. I personally run a offenhauser intake, Holley 600, voodoo cam and Rhoads lifters with 10.2 compression. Don't know about horsepower but my 3200 pound rambler runs 13.9 with 3.54 gears. Please follow through with all the 292 testing. You are doing testing we could never afford to. I believe it's results are accurate for all American six cylinder engines with intake and exhaust ports on the same side. Thanks bro.

Ballast resistor is needed..... I believe the old GM with points ignition vehicles used a resistor (either ballast or resistor wire) to reduce the "electrical load" seen by the points. They "started" with the full 12+ volts going to the coil via a bypass circuit originating at the starter solenoid. Once running, they ran through the ballast resistor, reducing the voltage to the positive side of the coil. Full 12 volts full time = very reduced points life. Why do I know such useless info? I started hot rodding back in the "dual point ignition in my 370hp LT-1" era. Looking forward to that old 292 making ~ 500 lbs ft and at least 370hp @ below 5000rpm with some old school dual carb boost. Now let us all bow our heads and pray for really low run temps, good race gas, strength for the worn out ring lands in those ancient cast pistons, and strength for the weak ass, 6.760 inch long, SBC looking con-rods in that 6 lunged dinosaurs. LOL

This reminds me so much of Charlie Brown Christmas. Merry Christmas Richard!

Great job I'm looking forward to the redo keep it up brother

Thanks Richard great video, worn out parts happens to everyone lol

I remember when i was an apprentice and had a holden 173 (basically baby version of this engine) and changed to a HEI distributor and it made a huge difference. And no points to wear out!

Yes. Clifford did make a triple Weber intake. They at one time even showed a roots blower that bolted directly to the intake ports.

Love this series. Really waiting to see the Ford 4.9L since I have one in my truck. 238,000 miles and still going!

Evening Richard 😇 thanks for all the hard work and as always another great video I really appreciate it. I was thinking while you're going to be redoing everything how about stepping up a little bit and swapping out the points for an inexpensive electronic upgrade to something like a pertronix ignitor box instead of running a new set of points?. It's cheap reliable and efficient and should add a little more and the game's Department across the board?

When you get it running again, would be very interesting to install very long runner intake similar to the Mercedes-Benz 300 SL from the 1950's. That 3.0 liter straight 6 was rated at 215 HP and known for great torque. Keep up the great work.

Dude. I love the vids. Just...the intro---and the conclusion. One word. Tripod. OMG. I had to look away. The shakes were killing me!

We all have those problems from time to time. Keeps us on our toes.

No ballast resistor ......points will be toast sooner or later. Probably sooner, if you are using stock setup instead of MSD white wire trigger input. Great 6 banger series, loving it.

Stock points can not stand up to more power on the 6. I talked to Jack Clifford about running the carb sideways, symmetrical, on his intake. He said it flowed better straight, not how you ran. Lump ports -big cam-compression-1/8” over bore -yes! 4” bore! Should =400hp! Sissell/Kirby 12 port head =600 hp! Dick Bertolucci pushed 4o% Nitro for 1200 hp. Still holds record at Sacramento Raceway.

Nuevo seguidor. Tengo una camioneta GMC HIGH SIERRA 84' motor 250 en linea, yo quiero hacer la conversión a 292, transmisión 700r4. Me gustan tus vídeos. Gracias por tus consejos. ❤

That was still a good test, I can't wait to see the final results!

I'm one of those "other guys" too. Building a 230 Chevy right now, doing extensive head work with upsizing the valves, lump porting the intakes, springs to match the cam and bolting on an Offy with a Holley 600. Any idiot with a credit card can do an LS swap.

Richard, you know as well as i do, when everything works out perfect the first time, something is wrong. Thats when i go back and double check everything. My last name is Murphy, what can happen will. Nice work, keep on keeping on

I think a HEI is needed. The spark plugs we get now are resistor plugs. and points ignition simply doesnt have enough poop in its pants to fire a resistor type spark plug at high RPM. The increased air flow is blowing the spark out like the wind blows the flame on a candle out. Ive ran a Offy 4 bbl intake with hedders and a HEI on a 250 engine in a 66 GMC pickup. It was great except for the lack of exhaust heat on the intake in colder weather. I got carb icing.

I love those inline 6`s . I had a 1977 ford 4x4 with a 300 / 6 . I loved it .

You're preachin it. Got the rocker studs and poly locks swapped out, valves lashed then I had an o-ring for one of the injectors just start gushing fuel out. I had one hole that wasn't firing so I'm still working through that. Gotta get a temp gun to see if it's going or not. After all that, I still have a miss. On to the HEI module and coil I guess.

Man I miss my 292 so much that i6 sound never gets old

I once fought a cracked fuse for days. Tested good, looked good (without proper backlighting) but wouldn't pass enough voltage for the park brake solenoid on the dozer. It happens. Sometimes the simplest things can gut-punch us. No worries!

I hear ya. I've got a large collection of of well intentioned maintenance parts from past vehicles that never quite made its destination.

Keep working on the 292 i got one i been trying to boost for a few years now but life slows ya down at times . SPA manifold and wanting to do a MSD sync and ls coils with a PSE intake and a FAST throttle body is what I’m trying to do

The old stove bolts are nice ! You can replace the lifters without removing the cyl head - you can upfit a HEI dist from a 75 chevy nova ! I would make a tuned port style intake up and over the valve cover for heatsake and turbo it ! My dads 68 ran like a sewing machine ! Thanks for your time effort and educational videos ! Even i learned someting new and o share my knowledge a lil heren there !

I have a Inline Six Facebook group, Hot Inline Sixes and Vintage, my admin and i share these videos to my group, the more you can do on the 292 the better, and thank you for doing these videos, very informative.

I new a man back in the 80s that was a 292 fanatic when he finally got his engine right it was a beast

As painful at they are, I always learn more from my failures than my successes. Good job.

Great experience, as always! ;)

I look forward to seeing that 292 clean with some new points lol

You probably aren't running it long enough to burn the points, but, IIRC, the original ign. wire from the switch to the coil had enough resistance to limit peak current through the points and coil. The points don't last long with a straight feed from the battery. I once installed a ballast resistor on one of these engines used in a boat to remedy the problem. Thanks for taking all time and trouble.

Yea, please don’t abandon the 292. Even tho I don’t have one, I am still interested in knowing how this engine performs. Maybe install a electronic ignition, fuel injection, more turbo stuff. Very interesting how an older engine that has been modernized, can make more reliable power in today’s world.

Keep up the good work!

Great video

Please try merging the (NA) exhaust. 3 cylinder scavenging would be iffy right? Especially depending on cylinder grouping. Thanks for all your awesome videos.

Richard, you're killing me ! 😭 This lump needs an HEI, AT A MINIMUM. Points suck ass. It's 2020, for Pete's sake ! 😞 Selfish Bitching aside, Thanks for all your hard work ! Looking forward to a better & more complete test with a bit cleaner engine ! 😎👍

Awesome! The PES seems to address the bottom 90* turn inherent to all classic inline 6 engines.

slap on a HEI instead of the points distributor

Fascinating stuff. Please keep going with this motor. How about putting the original carb back on with the better manifolds? That would be at least as interesting as those big carbs trying to work through that little opening on the original manifold .

Sorry it didn't work out this go around! Look forward to seeing what the 292 will do after the points are fixed. Thanks Richard we enjoy your work! (Watch out for the shaky camera during intro/conclusion)

This 292 inline stuff is very interesting and refreshingly different. Keep testing stuff on this one please. 😁

do all those tests with a 4.3 and showcase some options for the 4.3 guys!!! love this though the 292 is a great little work horse!

Since you're a Ford guy and I'm a Chevy mechanic and worked at three dealerships I will tell you something about the old points.. . You have to hit with a dwell meter a perfect 31° of dwell... To maximize the blast of a Chevy coil now I imagine that it's probably the same for just about any coil because that 31° is hyper important so when you reset the points on that thing make sure that you hit it at 31 and you'll get the best ignition of the mixture that you can possibly achieve..

Dang Richard, you are a Dyno testing dynamo! I’m Mopar biased, but it is interesting to see the step by step parts changing improvements, even on those ‘other guys’ motors! lol

I bet David Freiburger pulls some of his engines out of lakes when no one is looking.

Hells Ya you need to bring it,I will never run a 292 but I enjoy your efforts

This is the Big Brother to our ever popular 202ci we got over here in Australia. Never seen the Carby mounted across the Manifold before, our 4BRL Manifolds mount the same as the PES. Will go down the Rabbit Hole looking for Boosted Runs!

Interesting test….very cool! Maybe an HEI ignition and new valve springs? Also maybe a 300 ford six in comparison.

Put a Pertronix Ignitor in or HEI from mid-ish 70s till the end of production. It's one less thing you need to worry about. They don't need the resistive wire that points need to keep from premature wear.

Haha, I was thinking the points were going to be the problem. I use standard "blue streak" points and they only last like 12,000 miles. Vettes did have dual points.

When I lived in South Africa in the 1980’s... Because I’m a gear head...I noticed everything automotive, when perhaps I should have been more aware of the history being made in front of my very eyes (I was in my early 20’s...that’s my excuse). But instead...one of the automotive details I clearly remember was the 292 insignia on virtually all the grills of the right hand drive mid-70’s to early 80’s era Chevy pickup trucks ( note: no one drove pick-up trucks there... they were only used by businesses) Yet, At home here in Michigan ( 30 miles from my house, where Chevy trucks are built). All the Chevy truck in that era had 350, 400, or 454 grill insignias... never ever 292...Never! So....when I saw this vid. It brlriught me back to Johannesburg

Shows how nice the electronic ignition upgrade can be.

Be interesting to see changes in dwell, adjusting points gap.

Thank you Richard

It's so sad to not see this hit the 5252 marker. It's like a diesel. Love these old engines from before my time. Head and cam!!! Head and cam!!! If money permits.

For the want of a nail.... At the beginning when you said you had a failure and it started missing I was afraid it swallowed a valve. Whew!

This stuff is flat out amazing to watch "Other Guys testing" is the Shit where the Dance at Rich😂😂😂💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪💪💪

If you get a chance could you run the 292 with one of the aftermarket manifolds and the stock 1bbl. carburetor. I think it would be interesting to see what only changing one thing would to the torque and hp curves..

Wow, I was eagerly waiting to see the PES intake test as that is what I have for my 250. Please do it with an HEI next time. And if possible do a TBI vs multipoint EFI test to see the siamese port limitation and cyl 1&6 running lean on a modern Dyno test, that's where I'm heading next.

These motors in Australia were downsized to 161,179,186 and 202 cid in our Aussie designed holden cars, engines are similar with slight differences .

I totally understand why your doing this. And i am very interested. 250 I6 here

The 292 inline six cylinder is a fun engine that deserves more horsepower and attention

I laughed when he mentioned something about crate motors working perfect. I think some builders don’t even own parts washers judging by what I’ve seen inside oil filters.

The 74 or 75 and later inline 6 Chevy's do have HEI distributors. The 199 through 292 all use the same distributor so fine a 250 they are super common.

I for sure was expecting big gains like the Ford 300 gets.

Please keep going! Duel 4 barrels carburetors with a turbo. Oh and here because i have a 250, offy intake and 600 cfm holley waitting to go on.

Come for the Holdener stay for the music

Can you dyno the points ignition vs a electronic ignition?

In my years of budget building I've learned what and what not to skimp on now for the most part

What is like to see is like a basic head refresh. Put a healthy deck on it to get the compression up a little, valve job and Springs, machine the spring seats while your in there. Then test again. Then a port an polish and retest.

Digging this!!

I remember reading that some racers would take a couple of SBC heads and cut and furnace braze them to make a long inline six head. I don't remember how they did the head bolts, because the SBC has a pretty unique pattern. But that got me thinking... Are the LS head bolt patterns a better match for a project like that?

On my projects , I've gotten there to start tinkering and grabbed a wrench first thing and it flew out of my hands , Butterfingers! That right there is an omen folks, set the wrench down and walk away because it's only gonna get worse if you keep at it. Stripped and snapped bolt heads and mangled threads are in your future if you don't walk away and come back later.

I would say everything goes perfectly about 50 percent of the time. The other 50% of the time a lot of cuss words are used and tools get tossed around my shop.

I believe Edelbrock made an SP2P Intake, only good for torque and mileage. Extremely low RPM manifold. Not worth testing IMO. The Offy always made more low end torque on all my 250 engines, the runners are small like stock Cliffords have huge runners and gives a weak signal to the carb. Three Side draft Weber DCOE’s made the most torque out of all the combos I have ever tested with different carbs and different intakes. New points will work fine for the rest of the testing, but an HEI gives you a bit more output. Thx again Rich for these videos!