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RECORDED ON DECEMBER 5th, 2019.
Dr. David Benatar is professor of philosophy at the University of Cape Town in Cape Town, South Africa. He is best known for his advocacy of anti-natalism in his book Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence, in which he argues that coming into existence is a serious harm, regardless of the feelings of the existing being once brought into existence, and that, as a consequence, it is always morally wrong to create more sentient beings. He’s also the author of books like The Second Sexism: Discrimination Against Men and Boys (2012), and The Human Predicament: A Candid Guide to Life's Biggest Questions (2017).
In this episode, we focus on The Second Sexism. We first go through some concepts, definitions and clarifications. Dr. Benatar distinguishes between the first and the second sexism, and also between disadvantages and wrongful discrimination. We then address several domains where there is wrongful discrimination against men, like violence and sexual assault, family laws, education, military service, imprisonment and crime sentences, and circumcision. We also discuss social stereotypes about men and women, and where behavioral differences come from, and if they are ethically relevant. We also talk about how misleading the term “gender violence” is, and in any ways some arguments put forth by feminists against the second sexism are wrong. We specifically address the arguments Dr. Benatar names as the inversion argument, the costs-of-dominance argument, and the distraction argument. Finally, we ask if feminism can discriminate against men, or at least exacerbate some of the already existent discrimination, and also what we could do to tackle the second sexism, at a political, social, and cultural level.
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00:53 The first and the second sexisms
03:38 Disadvantage, discrimination, and wrongful discrimination
07:23 Different domains of disadvantage and discrimination
10:18 Do we have to worry about biological disadvantages?
12:17 Violence
15:27 Family laws
16:37 Education
19:25 Military service
21:57 Imprisonment and crime sentences
23:39 Upstream causes behind violence
26:15 Circumcision and female genital mutilation
32:36 Social stereotypes, and moral typecasting
36:13 Behavioral differences, and the nature-nurture debate
38:50 Is the expression “gender violence” useful?
40:57 Objections put forth by feminists - the inversion argument, the costs-of-dominance argument, and the distraction argument
48:32 Does feminism discriminate against men?
50:08 How could we tackle the second sexism?
53:08 Distinguishing people’s choices from discrimination when we get unequal results
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Комментарии : 22   
@BNK2442
@BNK2442 3 года назад
His book was way better than Jordan Peterson's book.
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 2 года назад
It has little to do with it though
@BNK2442
@BNK2442 Год назад
@@giladkingsley It has enought for it to be better.
@pavelhanek9790
@pavelhanek9790 3 года назад
Great author and thinker
@Sarah-no7lv
@Sarah-no7lv 4 года назад
Big fan of Benatar. This book is great.
@prophet7247
@prophet7247 4 года назад
Well I'm definitely getting this guy's book!
@UtarEmpire
@UtarEmpire 4 года назад
Great book, this plus Christina Hoff Sommers' "The War Against Boys" are essential reading for anyone wanting to take deep and well-written dives into this topic.
@dylanmorrison5847
@dylanmorrison5847 4 года назад
This guy might have the most hilarious voice I’ve ever heard.
@BiZii1024
@BiZii1024 10 месяцев назад
Great podcast!
@ludwigbeethoven3119
@ludwigbeethoven3119 3 года назад
The logic, reasoning is usually airtight he reminds of Spock from StarTrek?...what would the most logical/rational human being be like? Not saying Banatar is free of biases and logical errors even he admits to "not being 100%" the sign of a true philosopher lol he just can't see logical/rational arguments against "antinatalism" This is the first interview heard him talk about something other than AN... Question have heard Banatar answer... 1. Is the "self/false self/ego" real or not? Sam Harris sort of hinted at this when he talked with him but did not go into detail..."Who is the one who is suffering?" Also the distinction between physical and psychological suffering. 2. Is "freewill/responsibility" real or not? Who is choosing to have or not have kids? The questions are strongly connected. Read his latest book and he did not answer them there. The book was "The Human Predicament" thought he would say something about them since is an a philosopher. Anyone know? Banatar has admitted to not being well versed in the "Eastern" religions or teachings of say Buddha, Jiddu Krishnamurti, Sri Nis Maharaj which border on a type of atheistic teachings "religion of no religions"...
@brianw.5230
@brianw.5230 3 года назад
Is this really David Benatar's pic?
@gravytopic
@gravytopic 3 года назад
No, it's the interviewer. Benatar's face is largely shrouded in mystery.
@hmb8801
@hmb8801 3 года назад
No that's ricardo's pic
@Nickelodeon81
@Nickelodeon81 4 месяца назад
No, David Benatar looks like a blue circle with a line and then an X.
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