331 OR 347 STROKER? // Watching a machine shop hone and prep the block for my SSP ROAD RACE BUILD!

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331 OR 347 STROKER? // Watching a machine shop hone and prep the block for my SSP ROAD RACE BUILD!
i go to Kannapolis Engine and Adam walks us though exactly why my 331 was burning oil and why their was coolant in the crankcase. Should I go 347 or 331?
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@RegularGuyGarage 3 года назад

I feel like using that special tool on Adam’s right hip quite often on my car when It’s giving me issues 😂

@GearHead704 3 года назад

🤣 I should have had him use that tool on my SSP that day.

@yellowfoxbodyguy 3 года назад

I learned more about piston rings here than I did in 4 years of Auto Mechanics class in high school. Alot of good info here! great video Gearhead!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks Willie! I learned a lot, it's really cool to be working with Adam.

@VidTubeWatch 3 года назад

This was a very fun and educational video. I would definitely let Adam work on one of my cars if I lived closer to his shop. He was not only educating you guys, but he was also keeping you safe. I noticed the sidearm when he was working on the block. Good to have good folks with conceal and carry licenses no doubt.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Hey VV! LOL, yeah I noticed that sidearm too! Heh heh, we were definitely safe.

@RPJs-Cuisine 3 года назад

1st time commenting on ur channel. Shouts out to the Machinist. I like his info and attitude. Machine guys never talk like that. 🍺😁👍

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Welcome aboard! Adam is super knowledgeable and wonderful to work with. Thanks man.

@TheSlim93gt 3 года назад

Best engine I have ever built was an Eagle 347. A little bit different in that it had an internally balanced crank with Chevy V6 rod journals. The rotating weight came in 3lbs under a DSS 331 kit. Yes, the wrist pin intersected the oil ring, but it never consumed oil. Only change I would've made would be a domed piston to go over 11:1 compression. It was a screamer, 7200rpm no issue.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Sounds like an awesome engine build. I"m definitely leaning 347.

@trentdawg2832 10 месяцев назад

Adamn knows his shit!!!! I wish i could find a guy like him in my parts……and he stays strapped at work!! Hell yea!!

@GearHead704 3 месяца назад

He really does!

@thefoxchamber 3 года назад

347....... Love watching the engine work being done. Lots of explaining about what's going on. Great video Matt.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks Jim! 👍. A lot more to come. I also hope to catchup on all your vids soon as well.

@TheCuttz1984 7 месяцев назад

Very knowledgeable. Learned a lot so thankyou for sharing.

@GearHead704 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@outcold1982 2 года назад

I like the sound of the smaller displacement of the 331 myself. It give the sound I grew up loving in the old Fox's.

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Can't beat that sound!

@KCDW83 3 года назад

I chose to build a 331 years ago just because everyone else was doing 347s. I have to say the 331 with the 5.4" connecting rods let's the piston dwell at TDC a little longer and makes awesome power at 14 to 1 compression. Wouldn't do it different if I had the chance.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Not a bad way to go for sure. I'll be letting you guys know which decision I made on the channel soon.

@04pts8k 3 года назад

my old 347 combo is still hanging in with head studs, but starting to get some oil consumption issues much like your 331. looking forward to seeing final combo and assembly video

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Sorry about your 347. Adam says the oil consumption issues on them have been solved, so we'll be covering why in a future video on the channel too.

@indycollie6424 2 года назад

That's a good buddy, took a lot of his time to explain and help. my experience is machinist value their time over your understanding.

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Glad it helped!

@luecreative 3 года назад

Wish I had gone and checked out the process when Adam was rebuilding my 306! So cool to see behind the curtain at KES 👏👏👏

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Adam is the MAN on that stuff for sure.

@BLACKKNIGHTMUSTANG 3 года назад

Awesome Bro. I see yall still grinding on the motor. Keep up the good work Bro

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Trying over here LOL. Thanks Ant!

@mikedambowic5862 3 года назад

MATT! VERY VERY COOL VID ! HAPPY FOR U THAT U ARE WORKING ON THE NEW SSP MOTOR

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks Mike, me too. It had been too long since I had some SSP content.!!

@BackyardBMX73 3 года назад

Very cool to see the rebuild process first hand.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Yeah, I"m hoping to do a couple of more videos over there. Thanks Ponie.

@BackyardBMX73 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 looking forward to em!

@eliseolopez6283 3 года назад

I think you should stay at 331. You already have alot of parts for it. And it's more then enough for what you want it for. By the way I have a 331 superchargerd and it runs great.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

First vote for 331 I think, but it certainly wouldn't be a bad choice. A 331 supercharged must be a lot of fun I'm sure.

@manuelblevins4711 3 года назад

331 DSS Racing Bullet + AFR 185 = Great engine very durable !!! I like full support for oil rings ! Have this combo in ford maverick its been sweet engine !!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Nice combo, should last a long time.

@earlywhiskey1847 4 месяца назад

You can never go wrong with more displacement.

@GearHead704 4 месяца назад

Right! 100%

@willbradley6450 2 года назад

Good stuff thanks

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@randylanhart1387 3 года назад

Now that's a great engine builder. I learned so much. Now if you could be so kind as too how much his services cost .

@GearHead704 3 года назад

That's a good question! I don't know yet actually LOL

@cashmoneyv197436ify 3 года назад

I would go with the 347 but this was interesting video!!! But it's yours do want that crazy about the pistons in the bore in the block! Good video Matt

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks and that's the way I'm leaning buddy.

@StupidFastTruck 3 года назад

OMG Fords and Chevys living under the same roof, what's the world coming too. Another great informational video.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

🤣 Right? LOL. Thanks man.

@Clutch_Kick187 3 года назад

Ive had both in my 89 notch.. stay with the 331.. more durable combo.. Mine lasted three years of spraying 350hp worth of N20 through it.. Ran best of 8.82 on a 26" slick..

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Nice! I've never been in a car when Nitrious was sprayed, but I"m sure it's fun.

@themechanicred 3 года назад

What heads and cams were you using?

@Clutch_Kick187 3 года назад

@@themechanicred Trick Flow

@BAHRacingTeam 2 года назад

I am building a gutted, front tube fox hatchback. I plan to use a stock block and poke it to a 331. Also will run nitrous. We’ll see how long it lasts

@johnmoriarty6158 3 года назад

Would have liked to see more of the intake.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Stay tuned, we'll be cover it in a future video.

@craigmiller5405 3 года назад

347 bro !! Great blog man !!!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Appreciate it buddy!!

@Hero8570 3 года назад

I'm working on a 408ci, and remember the Cam looses RPM range with the longer stroke too. I wish I would have known before buying a Cam!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

408 is going to be fun! Yeah, we are looking at the right RPM, I may have to change my cam.

@Hero8570 3 года назад

Double checking, we have the same cam you mentioned in the video. I need a high stall converter.

@michaelwilliams434 3 года назад

331 babyyyyy

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Not a bad way to go, although I ended up choosing 347.

@jpp9846 3 года назад

I'm intrigued by both Strokers. I've considered the NA 347...but I think I'm going the boost route. I found this video very informative 👍

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful! You'll never beat boost for straight HorsePower numbers.

@brandonknight7240 Год назад

Im thinking BOTH! 347 and boost if not 363 or 408

@RaymondUrias 3 года назад

I need to find a guy like this in florida for my build!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Adam is fantastic. Might be worth the trip.

@FoxbodyTV 3 года назад

Good info great video

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks a lot buddy👍

@heathpittman4335 3 года назад

Cool video

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

@davisbrian2912 3 года назад

347 sounds good just saying brother great view

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Can't go wrong, thanks man!

@oldfoxer1648 3 года назад

I would ask Adam, wear and tear wise, which would he suggest. Either build would have enough hp for the type of racing you are planning. 347 sounds nice and if he figures it wouldn't matter wear and tear wise and the money isn't an issue, go big or go home.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Agree on all points, especially the Go BIG or Go HOME! LOL

@fordtechlife 3 года назад

Im Running a 331 systemax intake 75mm plate i have the 185 AFR its supposedly right about 448 HP, I have Yet To get it on the dino but its been really reliable, 331 AFRs my Vote 👊🇺🇸💪👍🦊🚘🔧🔧🔧🔧

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thanks for letting me know FordTech. I am looking at the SystemMax as my possible intake as well.

@VacFink 3 года назад

331 will be more durable. the longer stroke means more piston angle at the bottom of the stroke. Big power is for drag racing IMO where peak matters most. Autocross is about a power band you can control and limit inputs (being able to hold a gear longer and control with the throttle). You'll be happy either way especially with AFR heads.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Great point on the auto cross. I think I'm going to also want to do some road racing as well. Great points, you've given me something to think about buddy.

@yaboyskeet634 3 года назад

Currently deciding to go with my mechanics custom 349 for 2700$ girdled and slap it on my trickflow trac heat top end kit 170cc heads but been told ill be restricted powerwise but will have room to grow from.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

It will be a lot of fun either way I"m sure. Nice choice.

@bobfeeser1038 3 года назад

347 love your videos!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Thank you Bob.

@NoFox_Given 3 года назад

I would be curious in hearing Adams thoughts about wrist pins intersecting with the oil ring groove in the 347 as apposed to the 331. That’s a thing that always made me prefer the 331. Unless something has changed and they make 347 pistons that don’t do that.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

We've had quite a few questions on this, so I think i'll cover it in an upcoming video with Adam if we can.

@albertgaspar627 3 года назад

The newer pistons are better, but there's still the issue of room. Push the rings closer together, and detonate, and pop went the weasel. If you're boosting, go with the 331 and use its rev-ability. If you want to make power below 6,000 RPM, go with the big bore Dart 363 block, and get a 347 short stroke and less valve shrouding. I like the low deck Windsor, but it was originally designed for a 221 cid power ability to move an economy car, with the tall deck Windsor to do battle against the Chevy 350. So there's gonna be some limits :)

@oscarvillarreal8951 2 года назад

@@GearHead704 would you happen to know if a regular 331 stroker is just as good as the forged 331 stroker? Or if it's better to by a forged 331 stroker right off the bat?

@GearHead704 2 года назад

All depends on what you are going to be doing with it

@oscarvillarreal8951 2 года назад

@@GearHead704 if I wanted to do a carb swap, long tube headers, heads, letter cam, 3.55 ring and Pinon? What would you apply?

@TheReelFishermen 3 года назад

Damn Adam got skills

@GearHead704 3 года назад

💯 percernt!

@jamesbergman4917 3 года назад

My question is why measure a set of pistons not being used as a reference? We saw your .030 DSS pistons were under by .0040-.0045 when that is the extreme for his clearance anyway?

@denniswashburn9662 2 года назад

I went with the 331. I figured if the OVC crew are using it for their continuation 65 GT 350s, it must mean something.

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Either one is a good choice.

@TheXopony 3 года назад

how did you end up with a block with one oversize bore ?

@wadestewart901 3 года назад

I would consider Whats the purpose off the car. What RPM/PowerBand will you need for the Track/ Road course. Will torque be better to get you out of the corners? I'm curious because I'd like to make mine a Time attack car.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

That's definitely the kind of things Adam and I will be talking about. I think the 347 for TRQ is going to be the winner there, but we'll see.

@jamesnabower6751 6 месяцев назад

I'm sure at 3:47 is fine more cubic inches but I rebuilt my 302 with a 30 overboard and I am very happy with it of course it is modified I put some heads from the 70s on it that I poured it in polished heavily and put bigger valves in I went with those heads so I could have screw screw and studs and rockers I went with stainless steel 1.7 rockers I went with a larger isky cam 24 lb injectors full length and headers a better chips so that I could cut out the 6250 RPM fuel cut outess slightly more compr

@GearHead704 5 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with a 306. I have had one in my vert for almost 3 years now.

@blackfive073 3 года назад

My vote is to stay 331/333. Money saved on a new crank can be put towards a nice set of afr 195s or trickflow 11r190 and maybe get ahold of ed at FTI and have him grind a custom cam for you 😏.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

You're definitely right about the money savings, and I've always wanted a custom grind, but we'll see on that one.

@BuiltVSBought 3 года назад

Fast car stuff right here

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Not 700, but fun in a Fox buddy! 😉

@bpfishing19 3 года назад

347 here on my 92 with a trick flow top end kit. On the dyno the car made 340hp to the wheels.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Not bad at all. I've got a TFS top end kit on my vert too and I'm happy with it.

@deadriseful 3 года назад

What's the odds that we both have motors at machine shops? Tho my block is a chevy 350 (well 355ci technically now). I don't know if you had the same experience as me, but when I was at the shop talking with the machinist, I kept learning so many new things. Like I totally wanted to hang around him for a day and learn about engine building stuff that I've never thought about. Folks like these guys are just are a blast to talk to. I would go 331ci b/c this motor is going into a road race/autocross car. Piston speed with a stroker is faster so higher rpms it may not be a total fan of which you will be in most of the time for those style of events. It's not always about hp/torque but reliability when staying in those higher rpm bands all the time.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

-> I don't know if you had the same experience as me, but when I was at the shop talking with the machinist kept learning so many new things., C'mon Sammy it's me, so yeah I was learning on everything LOL, but yeah that's the cool part. Good call on everything else you mentioned. Adam and I are going to work through those details and of course I'll let you know not only what we decided, but why.

@salvadorcarrero5390 Год назад

347 Stroker the best believe my .

@stevezipoff9522 3 года назад

Go with Trick Flow 11R's regardless of whether or not you go 331/347. Great video.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

It's about 50/50 between trickflow and AFR in here. Unfortunately trickflow seems to be out of stock right now.

@fordltd1983 3 года назад

Stay 331 you already have the crank and rods. More RPM w/ trickflow 11r 190 heads or the AFR enforcers are a nice reasonable price Adam usually has the DSS inline/tw pistons on the shelf. That would be a screamer.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

I really do want those TrickFlow heads!

@MrMrferg84 3 года назад

I have the 302 block from my first car (93gt bought when I was 15) being stroked to 347. Systemax kit. All going into a 83 GLX. Can’t wait to see what power it puts out. 20 year dream coming to reality. Incredible video

@GearHead704 3 года назад

WOW, that GLX is going to move now! Thanks and enjoy your build.

@jaffroking6798 Год назад

Had a 347 now I've got a331 and it turns 7500 rpm s and work s much better doesn't drop off at the other end of the track. Better cam and afr heads did the trick . . AMERICAN CYLINDER VERO BEACH FLORIDA..RON RAINEY ...AND LYNN BEST SHOP IN FLORIDA. SO SAD RON NOT WITH US ANYMORE. SURE MISS THAT FORD MAN ...

@GearHead704 Год назад

Oh sorry to hear that.

@marklowe7431 3 года назад

Stick with 331 but use AFR if it's an a car street driven. It will be a very wild ride. Also, check with Adam if he drives a Delorean, he looks familiar.........

@GearHead704 3 года назад

AFR is probably how I"m going to go because of the availability issues with TrickFlow right now. I don't think he has a Delorean but I"ll ask. It's a cool car.

@socalltd 2 года назад

seeing the measurements on the bores, I would like to ask. . in a 351W with stock pistons, can I bore and hone it out a bit and use a .010 over ring set filed fit the top rings to .016-.018 gap and not have that kind of piston rocking.

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Sorry, I'm not sure, best to call Adam at Kannapolis Engine

@cdub755 3 года назад

As far as trick flow, they are having trouble getting heads manufactured so unless you're willing to wait till April I would go a different direction. Definitely go with bigger heads though. 185 or larger especially if you want some kind of boost. God bless

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Yeah, I'm seeing the same issue with Trickflow right now.

@Uglykidracing8.2 3 года назад

A customer of mine just ordered a set of Trickflow 11r205's and got them within a week.

@DumbCarGuy 2 года назад

Guess what. ITS April

@andrewinsinga2993 2 года назад

AFR heads for the win, no replacement for displacement!

@GearHead704 2 года назад

They are a great choice! I did go with TrickFlow 11R 190cc's though.

@ryang9425 3 года назад

347! Watching the honing process was pretty cool to see.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Hey buddy! Yeah I liked that too, and I"d figured you'd say 347 LOL

@ryang9425 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 YEP!!! Go for it! Also, dont cry too hard Saturday. GO DUKE!!!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

@@ryang9425 🤣We lost to Clemson because we were getting ready for Saturday instead LOL

@ryang9425 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 yep! Back to back losses coming up. Lol Get Tarhole Fox wrapped in the right color blue afterward lol

@GearHead704 3 года назад

@@ryang9425 You were saying sir? LOL

@jimmywaters3987 2 года назад

Have you considered going with Trick Flow 11R cylinder heads ? Just a question. A lot of people seem to really like them . They would be at home on a 331 like yours, because a 331 likes to rev. I mean , you are having to get new pistons anyway . Unless your machinist doesn’t have that particular style piston in stock . Good luck !

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Yes, I'm going with 11r 190cc heads actually! Ended up going with the 347 option.

@Foxedup 3 года назад

I’m here Matt. 50th. Good info, this will definitely be helpful when I need to start making my engine decisions. 👍🏼👍🏼

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Love the new name! 50th LOL. Yeah I'll definitely let you guys know all the details on here.

@jamesnabower6751 6 месяцев назад

Slightly more compression but not too much because of the pump gas cold air induction anyway it runs very well

@GearHead704 5 месяцев назад

NIce

@carmob7499 3 года назад

for boost i'd go 331 all N/A 347 .. We have a 331 for our foxbody

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Yeah, I"m going 347 I"m pretty sure brother, thanks for the advice!

@roknroy1 3 года назад

adam knows his stuff...

@GearHead704 3 года назад

💯 perecent

@mikeconnelly7032 3 года назад

You should check with the local autocross club to see what rpms they run their motors at. I doubt you will need a huge top end hp number. Btw... Great video too.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

That's a great suggestion. I better hit up WarHorse Racing as I'll be following his circuit some. I do plan to track it (Road Race) as well.

@robo2901 2 года назад

What was the program he referred to with picking the cam? Desktop something?

@GearHead704 2 года назад

I don't remember, will try and ask him and get it on a future video.

@mustang91 3 года назад

I think 347 but the 331 will probably be better for road racing as well you should reach your power goals with eighter I'm thinking about talking to Adam about me a stroker for my other car it's a 308 right now we definitely need to spend more time around him.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

I'm thinking maybe the TRQ might be better with the 347, but really can't go wrong with either one. Adam is a great builder, he actually helped me out a while back and fixed my lower intake manifold.

@alertgasper 5 месяцев назад

The Exterior Decor Group hood on that blue Mustang reveals it's a second gen, and it's easy to tell the year--1968 was the year the Feds required all cars to have side marker lights, so without them it's a 1967. I wonder if the head gasket issue was due to how the intake got tightened down? Who built this engine, DSS? seems like the bore work was sloppy.

@GearHead704 5 месяцев назад

Appreciate the tip on the old Mustang, I didn't know that!

@JayC-nr1mp 3 года назад

Here champ...n great informational video

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Appreciate that mane, definitely trying to bring the knowledge

@JayC-nr1mp 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 yea no problem keep up the great work champ

@killsalltires156 Год назад

If I could do it again. Aluminum 363 stroker with afr renegade 225 heads and hydro cam. 12.5 compression.

@GearHead704 Год назад

Definitely a great way to go. I was keeping the budget a little smaller this time around.

@robertc1220 3 года назад

Adam knows his stuff would see what he would recommend probably could build either one for autocross ever which one has best low end torque 331 my guess more reliable to

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Yes he does, and I'll be working very closely with him on it. Thanks Robert!

@albertgaspar627 3 года назад

Generally speaking, the larger displacement is going to make more low RPM torque, but its also a matter of head port size. Figure out the head you can afford or your class allows, and recognize which displacement will perform best with it at the RPM you want to be spending most of your time at.

@robhunter2435 3 года назад

Go AFR heads with a the 347 stroker if it is in the budget.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Great choices. Going to be posting my decision video on Wednesday.

@GoFastNation 3 года назад

347 with AFR heads. Great video!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

That's probably what's going to happen!v😁

@AmericanThunder 2 года назад

4.030" with 3.25" stroke is 331.65 cubic inches. In math, we round up at .5 or more, so why do people always call this engine combo 331 instead of a 332? Especially since the 332 was Ford's first FE engine, so it's kind of cool to bring back the label.

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Didn't know. I'm not sure why 331 is the popular nomenclature

@badasspecv 3 года назад

Depending on the cost difference but if the price is minor, I would go for the cubes personally 347

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Leaning that way.

@badasspecv 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 unless there you’d be a significant differences between the blocks for horsepower/torque on different circonstances, plz enlightened me cause my knowledge is limited....

@GearHead704 3 года назад

We'll be covering why I went the way I did on the channel for sure. I'm also learning most of this as well.

@albertgaspar627 3 года назад

@@badasspecv the case can be made the 331 has a better piston ring location for both boost and longevity...but how long do you really need the engine to last? If you take it apart every race season, you can catch a ring going away. If you are building for the street, you may not leave an engine alone for 100,000 miles. As for power potential, figure out the RPM you want to operate at. Or if you have a head limitation, choose a displacement where that particular head makes the power you need at the RPM you're at (off the dragstrip line, off the corner, down the straightaway, crossing the finish line at redline, etc)

@msk3905 2 года назад

@@albertgaspar627 you realize that there are countless stock engines that have similar if not worse piston ring locations than the 347, my last one went 212,000 miles trouble free when I sold it.

@greenfox3637 3 года назад

347 will have better torque. It will help with the afr185 heads and make a really fun car. I think you will be very happy either way on cid as long as the afr heads are on it 🤗

@GearHead704 3 года назад

The AFR's and the 347 is the most popular suggestion tonight LOL, but good points all around.

@lildno2007 3 года назад

Hey bud. How much you want for the Edelbrock heads! Would be a great addition to my build. I need all the help I can get 🥲

@GearHead704 3 года назад

I really want to keep them for now for another build, but if I do change my mind and sell them I'll mention it on my social media.

@Uglykidracing8.2 3 года назад

I own Ugly Kid Racing Engines in N.C, ive been doing the stock block 8.2 deck motors for 20+ years, i think since you are doing a N/A setup 347 is the way to go, and a set of Trickflow 11r205's would really make some good power. Trickflow is always my first choice, Edelbrock is my second.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

I really do want Trickflows too. I have a set of small entry level 170cc's on my vert, but I love them.

@Uglykidracing8.2 3 года назад

@@GearHead704the trickflow work, ive got a car called Suicidal 306, it went 5.75@118 after switching to a trickflow 11r190 head, and the motor was worn slam out. The videos are on here under "Sandman91mm" my world record nitrous sbe 302 passes, and the Nitrous stock block record is on there.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

@@Uglykidracing8.2 Wow, this quick. I'm not a big drag racer myself, but these Fox's are perfect for it.

@edbright207 3 года назад

Hi I have been building motors since 15 ,I am 66 in April ,I have just built 2 347s for friend,67 and 70 mustang fastbacks i would put 302 Twisted wedge motor I built in 95 mustang against either one,the TWs are180s they make bigger ,also p51 from kasse make great power I have 20 Ford motors rt now doing couple cleveland fitting yates head with try y intake GOOD LUCk

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Wow, it sounds like you've got a lot of experience that's cool. I did decide to go 347.

@edbright207 3 года назад

Saw that they say 331 easier on bottom end I was singing 289/302 7500 all my life my ranger accidentally hit 8000 have you tube my pro 5.0 Gt 40 p will bring up 13 videos

@SupraHenry 3 года назад

The power difference estimate doesn’t seem large enough for me to personally do a 347 if I already had a 331. So I’d stick with the 331.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Makes sense. I think i've decided to go 347 just because I want to do another build in the future.

@AmericanThunder 2 года назад

The 332" on my channel makes 530hp at the crankshaft, I shift it at 8500 rpm, still running great since I built it in 2000. Very durable and powerful combination.

@2vgod460 3 года назад

My 4.6 mod is using up oil to

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Very sorry to hear that.

@jimcockburn4652 Год назад

347cu in !

@GearHead704 Год назад

That is the way I went.

@marklowe7431 3 года назад

For me 331 is the ultimate setup for sb windsor, piston pin height not sitting in the rings. Great stroke vs torque / rod ratio etc. That said 347's haul some serious butt. For all out pwr prob go the 347 and something that expected to have lots more miles 331.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Great point Mark. I think we are going to cover some of the piston pin height issues in a future video as there has been a lot of questions about it.

@marklowe7431 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 Probably also worth talking about late oem roller blocks and the use of mains girdles. They're a mighty mouse engine. You have a great engine builder. He really knows his craft.

@robertedwards8578 2 года назад

I have 94 F150 5.0. I'm wanting to make it stronger than 220hp. What will be good to do get at least 275 to 300 hp.

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Probably heads, cam, intake, or an on3 turbo kit to get there quick.

@jamesnabower6751 6 месяцев назад

Sorry I keep going on but I did a few other things too I put a mean girl on it and a 7-qt pan and also put a girdle underneath the manifold I use the original tube Cobra manifold

@GearHead704 5 месяцев назад

No worries, sounds like a fun little setup you got there.

@coryrichter3621 8 месяцев назад

I'll buy the heads. Need them for my 289 -1923.

@GearHead704 5 месяцев назад

I"m still holding on to them for now. May end up going on my daughters 86.

@ShaneHerald 3 года назад

looks like a 65 mustang ......sweet!!!!

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Hey Shane! Someone said it was a 67, but either one it's pretty cool.

@ShaneHerald 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 might be those where so close and you could buy the light kit for center grill for the 65s to...tail lights are a tell all as long as the owner left it stock i work on a friends 65 all the time front end looks just like that

@GearHead704 3 года назад

@@ShaneHerald Oh cool, yeah I didn't look at the tail lights, but I'll ask Adam next time I see him.

@88stanglx1 3 года назад

Was the motor tickin or any skirt slap noise?

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Neither. Although I did put a quart of oil in every 200 - 300 miles and it shot a lot blue out of the tail pipes especially under full throttle.

@Lumpy-jd4fw 2 года назад

Does Adam sell complete 331 about 400 hp with a rumble to it

@GearHead704 2 года назад

Yes sir! Call him up.

@charlesimmel8966 3 года назад

I would go with the 347.

@GearHead704 3 года назад

I think that's what I'm going to do.

@geraldjohnston1773 Год назад

Did the dss short block come that sloppy?

@GearHead704 Год назад

No, it has been rebuilt once

@sf_bay_area_og4411 3 года назад

I like putting the ultra light cali’s crank with Oliver’s ultra light connecting rods with Cp’s pistons or diamond’s and love the AFR HEADS but if you want to save a bit after going all out on the ultra light set up that in my book is number one best of the best Brox and RHS have some descent heads oh and get a isky cam You need a new cam that made for the new build and again hands down isky is number one I feel and then ARP stud the block Jesel again is what I’d do for a bulletproof build

@sf_bay_area_og4411 3 года назад

Or you could just go with the eagle they have a full rotating assembly that’s definitely cost effective with throwing some brox or the RHS heads but for sure 347

@GearHead704 3 года назад

I totally forgot about Isky. My Dad loved their cams

@josephleonardi8977 3 года назад

Now you know what way I'm gonna sway on this topic!!!! 347 with afr heads.... That'll get you the HP you want and put a BIG smile on your face!!!!😁😁👍👊

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Hah hah, yes I did Joe and I think it's going to be a great way to go LOL

@josephleonardi8977 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 im building another 347 and my builder said AFR heads are the best way to go for the flow...

@GearHead704 3 года назад

Mine likes them a lot too, although says trickflow is pretty good too. Trickflow is out of stock, so looks like we may go AFR, but we'll see.

@josephleonardi8977 3 года назад

@@GearHead704 ill be keeping a lookout on your updates!!😜😜👍👊