379 - The REAL Dexnav and Fish Chaining Shiny Odds EXPLAINED! (Thanks to MrNbaYoh) 

I hear that Pokemon conquest music I'm one of the 10 people who played it so i can recognize it

Thank you so much!!!! Now my Dexnav shiny only quest is actually doable!! Already got a shiny Mudkip and Zigzagoon! What ever Pokémon the Dexnav chooses in a new route, is what i shiny search for (duplication clause in effect) wish me luck!! I’m limiting myself to 2 shinys per badge. 😁

Great video dude. It's not easy explaining something so complicated, but you made it look easy! There was a few times I was lost there xD However, hopefully everyone eventually sees this and realises that these are the true odds and stop spreading the all the other misguided and assumed odds.

Very well done. Thank you for this!

Thx a lot been searching for the real odds for awhile 😅

Solid job you're doing, I just came here from the Pokemon Platinum shiny tutorial

Really great explanation. Thank you for this! Now let's get the community to accept this as true, rather than blindly follow busted statistics/probability.

Love the Pokemon conquest music :)

Why... I’m so confused at this point. Literally me and two other friends have gotten over 20 dexnav shinies, but we don’t chain

Oh, I was wondering, where do you do your live streams?

OH OUI ENFIN ! La commu anglophone va pouvoir profiter de tes recherches :)

Search level! I never would've expected that!

Hey absol may i ask you a question? In pokemon rumble brawl on 3ds is it possible to find a shiny?

So chain fish 20 times in a row to get the odds to 1/100, and then hope for the best after that, that’s not that bad! Hopefully I’ll catch a shiny Feebas!

So basically... my 1100-ish DexNav encounters before I finally got a shiny Porygon weren't quite as unlucky as they seemed, and the Shiny Charm DOES have a significant impact on DexNav hunting. Good. I've been waiting for someone knowledgeable to dig this info out once and for all.

Hey man,long time no see,its RJ! Great Video!

Thanks for the video! Could you find a way to explain the SOS shiny chance, cause I don't believe that it's a chain and that the odds are 1/4096 until a chain of 70, because sooo many people are getting shinies under a chain of 70.

About that random 4% chance for the Dexnav, I just thought how it could have to do with the chance of getting a boosted level outside of every 5th encounter, which seems to also be 4%. Maybe the random shiny chance increase actually happens when the boosted level happens

I am glad to see someone taking the right side on this. After the cases of people refusing Nbayoh's research, I am pleasantly surprised to see a video breaking it down as fact.

I‘ve found that calculator before but I wasn’t sure if it was legit so this adds some credence to it

(Before watching this vid) I think the dexnav odds increase whenever the pokemons level increase. (Therefore every 5 chain counts)

So if I had a search level of 999, can I just search and then soft reset and still have the same odds?

I just thought of this today, is it worth soft resetting for your 100th Time seeing a Pokemon because you have 10 extra rolls? And the 4% could activate for 4 extra rolls, with charm adding 2 rolls, seems pretty good.

So the higher the search level the higher the chances?

Nice, and what music is this?

Dex Nav is still one of the most convoluted methods in my opinion. Love Chain Fishing though!

so do chains in dexnav do not matter , is that it? i tried imputing numbers there and nothing changes

Please answer. Could I stop at dexnav encounter level 99 and soft reset from there? Since my odds would be 10/4096

then dexnav chains doesn't incerase your shiny proba, just the search level does it right?

So could you soft reset at 100 dexnav finds over and over till you get the shiny?

Seven years later and I’m using this to help me get shinies in my old omega Ruby save

Should I purposefully break my chain after 100 then? Then start again

i’m at 700+ ralts encounters and still no shiny, im gonna give up bruh

i got a shiny doing dex nav while i was watching this vid

Does chain fishing still work in 2018?

So is Dexnav or hordes better for shiny hunting?

What if the search level is at 999 aka the max search level

This is about to be a hit

Hopefully you (or anyone really) will respond to this and help me out… So this whole Dex Nav method is really confusing because there’s around 2 or 3 theories floating around… and here’s exactly what I think based on experience, but please correct me if I’m wrong. So I think that at some point in 2014/2015 there was an update that made Dex Nav shiny hunting behave exactly as described in this video, but before that update it behaved how most people described it such as chaining having to do with shiny odds. This is why I believe this… When I got the game the day it came out I beat it quickly and started shiny hunting using the Dex Nav method and I got 3 shiny Pokémon all within 300 “chains” and 2 of them being around 100. (100-120) It’s to be noted that I never broke my chain therefore my search level was around 100-120 as well. Now on the calculator it says that’s a 1/1,000 chance (without the shiny charm which I did not have) but I think that only applies to ORAS now because like I said I got 3 shinies relatively quickly…. Not only that, but on shiny hunting tutorial videos I’ve read A LOT AND I MEAN A LOT of people saying they also have got shiny Pokémon around 100 counters OR LESS. So the fact that SO MANY PEOPLE are getting shiny Pokémon THAT EARLY ON just doesn’t line up with the odds of having a search level of 100 being around a 1/1,000 chance of being shiny (even considering that 50th and 100th chain gives multiple rolls) Now fast forward til about a week ago… I’m visiting family for the holidays since I’m now grown up and found my old 3DS and Alpha Sapphire… (my brother had played it so my save file is fine sadly, but he made this new game about a year ago - so the reason I say this is that there has been plenty of time for the game to have been updated since I got my shiny Pokémon easily using the Dex Nav like a week after the game came out) ANYWAYS back to my original point… I did the same exact thing I did 9 years ago using the old “chaining” method and got up to the upper 700s (750-780) with a search level of around 730-740 or so (which means I’ve gotten about 20-50 filler encounters to continue this “chain”) and eventually I ran out of super repels which I had 90-100 of them. This happened yesterday btw, so now today I looked into it to see what I was doing wrong which led me to this video… and now using the logic in this video, the numbers seem more accurate. I went to another chain of 100 just for those added rolls and still no luck… so I’m now currently at 830 Lotad encounters with around 30-60 random encounters just to fill in the gaps to continue the chain. Like I said before, these numbers seem about right since the first few hundred encounters will be like 1/2,000 - 1/800 chance or so, but then from like 500 - 800 (so those 300 encounters) are more like a 1/600 - 1/400 chance which at this point kinda seems like I SHOULD be on pace to get a shiny. Now I understand that technically I could encounter 100,000 Pokémon each with a 1/400 chance and still not be guaranteed a shiny (essentially me saying I understand probability) but it seems that at this point not only does the statistics in this video seem accurate to my Lotad hunt, but I also feel like I’m starting to also get pretty bad luck/RNG. One last thing worth mentioning is that like I said earlier how MANY MANY people said they have encountered shiny Pokémon in ~100 encounters, what I forgot to mention is that most if not pretty much all of those comments were 9 years ago. Every once in awhile I would see someone say they got it in around 500-1,000 encounters and it just so happens to be that most of those comments are dated around 7- years ago which gives my claim really good evidence that essentially at one point the chaining method was actually correct, but then an update game out and heavily nerfed people being able to get almost any shiny Pokémon in an hour or two very easily. Not to mention the shiny hunting method in Legends Arceus got nerfed too, though only slightly and they essentially made it inconsistent to be able to hunt a specific Pokémon, which is straight up concrete proof that shiny hunting methods have been nerfed already (though this example would be after they did it in ORAS assuming my assumption is correct) So in conclusion I essentially explained my personal experience along with others with a wide pool of supporting detail that backs up my theory. In short back in 2014 I (and many others) could find shiny Pokémon using the Dex Nav easily within ~100 encounters MULTIPLE TIMES and now I’ve literally at a chain of 800+ without finding a single shiny Pokémon along with others saying that they’re also on really high encounters when they have found their shiny, but only those comments are dated recently whereas the vast majority if not all people who also have said they get a shiny in ~100 encounters are all pretty much 9 years ago, thus giving my theory some pretty good evidence. (I can link the videos so anyone can read all the comments if anyone doesn’t believe me, just didn’t because I’m not sure if it would be marked as spam)

dang 1/100 after only 20 fish chain encounters? that is crazy

where's the new Vids?

Lol, Full Odds actually mean base odds, like as in no method, just full 1/8096 (1/4062 in Gen 6+)

Have my like for doing a good sneaking footage..

Is this still understood to be true or has something more accurate came out?

Wait. I thought "chaining" with the dexnav was just a myth and that your odds were pretty much a flat rate, like the 1/512 for the friend safari. So I actually need to be knocking out these pokemon like with the radar? Also, is the search level all that matters and not the actual number of the desired pokemon you've encountered consecutively? (I hope all that made sense heh).

this is so complicated. This is why I stick to hordes and chain fishing

Mr.Absolblog I can't beat the last boss on pokemon conquest but I lost the cartridge, Zekrom`s hard to beat the last time I played it

Does this mean hunting with no charm is reasonably viable? I'm at chain 516...

So, go fishing people

Dexnav is not determined on search level it’s random 1/512

I'm at 706 dexnav Ralts chain Not a single shiny. Bs.