You know, when I first started reading Homestuck, I thought Dave Strider was (and still) the most-admired "cool" guy in the story, who may have more experience, skill and knowledge than the main hero of the story. I also thought he was the most shallow character because of his ridiculous fear of plush rumps and stereotypical "cool guy" of a character, but I liked him for that. But, as I go along the way, my perceptions of him as the "typical cool guy with the shades" turned into respect as the guy who went through time loops just to save his friends, watched his friends and family (Bro) die and the tragedy of his timeloop unfold, turned into a bird hybrid and broke up with Jade for it, died to achieve God tier (which might be an horrifying experience - you know, to die) and still remained the typical cool guy of the story, who, despite his ironic quotes and actions, hid the pain and hurt from his past experiences in the time loop. I applaud you, Dave Strider - from the Alpha or doomed timelines.
to be honest the fact that dave never wanted to see blood or hear metal sounds makes this song sadder. his non existent happiness would be pretty much gone until he god tiered.
I feel like this accurately portrays the sadness and repetitiveness that Dave has to go through being a time traveler who crosses his own timeline. Think about it: who knows (well, besides Hussie himself) how many times Dave's seen himself, his friends and family, and maybe even innocent bystanders die due to his action or inaction? That's gotta weigh pretty heavily on someone's mind, and it's a lot of responsibility for someone who, to my knowledge (not an avid reader, sorry) is only about 15-17?
The Strider family always has such somber, kind of unsettlingly uppity tunes. It really reflects how they feel, I think. Trying to put off this "Cool kid, I-don't-care" Attitude towards everything for so long can take a toll on your inner "clockwork"
When I first read it, Terezis prank on John scared me to death. Id heard people say that main characters died all the time, so I really thought that was the end! Then Dave went back in time, became Davesprite, and we learned that this Dave was not the 'real' Dave all along. I cant say I wasnt relieved, but somehow, I never stopped thinking of 'Davesprite' as the real Dave, or the John who went to go kill his denizen all alone as the 'real John... this is one of the most tragic parts of homestuck
When I read Homestuck, I really ended up bonding to Dave because i'd been through much of the same stuff. (Not the game of course!) But the abuse from his older brother. He was pretty much told to suppress his emotions and was neglected emotionally and physically. I am really happy that Dave managed to get his happy ending.
Traveling through all these timelines makes me see how much time flies by. Perhaps somewhere, somehow I'll see the time, place, and person for me? Ticking down like seconds of a clock, reality watches like a hawk. Ticking down like seconds of a clock, reality watches like a hawk. I travel through timelines all alone, looking for a place to call home. Though far and wide I search I find nothingness, not a time or place or person to help rid me of my loneliness. Traveling through all these timelines makes me see how much time flies by. Perhaps somewhere, somehow I'll see the time, place, and person for me? Still...I hold my heart dear and try to get through the day, even though I know that I will soon fade away... Traveling through all these timelines makes me see how much time flies by. Perhaps somewhere, somehow I'll see the time, place, and person for me? I travel through timelines all alone, looking for a place to call home. I'll keep on looking far beyond my measure, though perhaps I'll die like my past selves without knowledge of my true treasure? Traveling through all these timelines makes me see how much time flies by. While dead men don't tell any tales, what shall I do if all else fails? Ticking down like seconds of a clock, reality watches like a hawk. Ticking down like seconds of a clock, reality watches like a hawk. Reality watches like a hawk... Reality watches like a hawk...... _Traveling through all these timelines makes me see how much time flies by..._
I honestly feel absolutely terrible about Dave. He saw himself die multiple times. Bro died right in front of him and he couldn't stop it. And he tried to play a game to save the world, but ended up destroying it in the process. That's why whenever I see somebody hating on Dave, I feel the need to point out that he went through a lot of pain and suffering to get to where he is now
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I know many people are saying how this song is sad but it reminds me of a new hope, of a new beginning, that out there somewhere he and his friends survive all these tragedies... and that gives him hope.
I think the 'Candles', along with the violin parts of the song are about Rose. I feel like this is a lullaby from Dave to Rose when he told her that he was going back to the Alpha timeline, when she was scared that she would either cease to exist, or be alone in the splintered timeline forever, and that she should go to sleep before he left.
yknow just because the final update came out, doesn't mean homestuck is over. homestuck will NEVER be over, new fans will continue to find it every single day and new art and music will be made by fans everyday and something even bigger than all of that is the fact there is going to be a homestuck 2.0 pretty soon. never say it's dead, it's calmed down but it'll live on forever
this song makes me wish for 2013 all over again it makes me pine for days long past of cons thriving with grey and friendships bubbling with enthusiasm god i love this song
people are posting their own interpretations of the song, so i thought i might as well... to me the song has a much more introspective, isolating nature. if any of you are familiar with chipspeech, it reminded me of dee klatt in that sense: someone who faced trauma and as a result caved in on theirself instead of reaching out for help. to tie this into homestuck... #spoilers but it's been revealed that dave, at some point, realized bro was abusing him. he had to learn from movies that the way bro was raising him wasn't normal, down to the purpose of a _refrigerator._ yikes. sburb only forced him to confront this further, giving him a land and title associated with heroism and loud metallic noises, two things he feared massively due to bro's treatment of him. so... to me, and maybe this is odd... this song represents dave contemplating bro's treatment of him and coming to terms with his abuse. it's isolating, haunting, and introspective, and it fits that aspect of dave's plot and character best in my opinion. [shudders] poor dude
I'm crying I can't believe Homestuck is over I can finally leave But it makes me sad thinking about it too Because the only reason why I don't want to leave Homestuck is that I don't want to abandon it like the others did. If I basically leave I'll be the same like those people I kinda hated. This song just makes me sad RIP Homestuck 2009-2016
God I wish this beutiful song was used in the comic. It would have been a great silent moment for Alpha Dave and Alpha Rose to just sit and realise how royally screwed they are and that their timeline is doomed. Powerful stuff
This is definitely one of my favorite songs from any Homestuck album. It's very serene, gentle - it stays constant with the mood throughout the entire song, and best of all, it sounds great at any speed that you set it to.
Hearing this during Let's Read Homestuck when Vriska was spilling her guts to John on her last message really made that event hit home. She may be a bitch, but even she has her soft spot. Admitting she had a problem with killing, really caring for her friends, and her last message to John showed she had real courage. Even though I love Vriska, I kind of wish her and John being together had worked out.
I feel very very sad when I listen this song . . . it's feels like I been late all my entire life expecting to "live" but in some way I feel like I've had not lived anything, Homestuck for me is kinda depressing because I started to read it on April 2016 and I finished on september and has hit me so hard . . . it's like I wish I could go back on time to be on 2013 when all my problems started, I wish I could go back and focus on this webcomic instead all my shitty twist plots from the past, I wish I could go back and being in the fandom and making cool contributions. . . but again I feel like I'm late, 4 years late -sigh-
John's fingers played across the keys. He felt compelled to play suddenly, but he didn't know why. Little did he know, across the dimensions, a violin and synthetic instruments answered his call. Dave stared out into the darkness, hoping that he could hear the other half of the melody. But once again, only his and his sisters own sound echoed back to him.
I really like how, at the end, you can hear the song very faintly starting to repeat, to go on and loop like time itself. I think that's really beautiful, actually.
Davesprite's Jade is killed by the meteor, as John isn't alive to be her server player. Dave is actually in his session for several months before he and Rose decide it's doomed, so he goes back to save John.
mikewithglasses102 Dave's class is a knight. He has this coolkid attitude but only because he doesn't want people to see how he really feels inside. He feels weak, he feels like he is not a hero but that john is and he thinks that he will never compare to john. This is how knight's are.
mikewithglasses102 The classes mean the pieces of themselves that are incomplete, or are a work in progress from my understanding. It is the aspect that is best suited to bringing out the traits that make them the "real" them so to speak. Which is ironic considering the paradox time situations. But the classes would give them challenges that would bring them closer to their true selves if they succeeded or failed. Cause in life, "It's not how you win or lose, but how you play the game". Which in this case is quite literal ._.
the big man said: " I just realized that Dave has witnessed himself dying many times, in alternate timelines. So in a land of clockwork, that makes Dave another cog in the murder machine B) " If the Clockwork represents Dave, what does represents Candles ? A candle is a light in a darkness, a hope which disappear as the TIME goes by... Does they represent alt Daves ? shit, feels (srry for bad english)
Candles also represent light. This is the Alpha Version. Now, who represents light? Rose. And who did Davesprite have to leave behind before he used his time-travel? That's right. Rose Lalonde.
This comment has really sunk in for me. When I read it a few weeks ago, I thought it was a pretty sentimental way to see the comic. But my mind kept coming back to your comment, and now I totally and wholeheartedly agree.
Lyrics: When I sleep sometimes I dream I'm flying High, high above a silent violet moon The people keep their heads down when they see me Drifting higher over the dominion of my silent, lonely dreaming…
I love this song. It's one of those very few that can just take you away from all your worries and stress just by turning off all the lights, closing all the windows, pressing play, and closing your eyes.
Whenever I hear this and the original candles and clockwork all I can think of is Chrono Trigger for the SNES because they borrow some musical motifs from Corridors of Time.
I had this playing when he found Bro's body. So many tears were shed. It fits both of the Striders. Dave and his lonely time hopping and Dirk growing up all alone with only the robots he made and chatting with people over pesterchum.
Whenever I feel sad, I listen to this. I don't know what it is. My mind and imagination just come alive. I find it really good to draw while listening to this. Drawing is how I express myself. Combine it with this song and It creates something beautiful.
The living versions of his friends belong to the "real" Dave (the one that eventually reaches God Tier and surpasses his own future self). With no place there, Davesprite goes off to help Bro fight Jack and instead fails, sees Bro die, and gets himself maimed. He meets Jadesprite on the Battlefield later, but then she's stolen away for Jade's godtier. With Jade overwriting her sprite's consciousness, she's not even the same person he was talking to the entire time. This is why you feel sorry.
Dave and Rose couldn't contact the trolls in the doomed timeline because their since own timeline came about by John dying, it prevented Jade from entering the game and therefore didn't result in Bec being prototyped to ensure the meteor wouldn't hit. Without Bec's prototyping, Jack Noir wouldn't become a threat to the trolls post-Sgrub, they wouldn't have hidden out in the Veil, and they wouldn't have trolled the kids, making /their/ timeline a doomed one. They were probably dead too.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure it's said that ANYTHING can be a sprite; not just dead people. If you recall, Davesprite, before he went back in time to become Davesprite, had prototyped Cal.
of all his age, (900 years), doctor who spent about 800 of it alone, randomly traveling. He's like a megadave. imagine 800 years all alone, to yourself.
It gets even sadder than if you read the doc scratch pictures. Terezi's trick allowed John to meet his denizen which gave him the choice to allow dave to go back in time and set the timeline straight.
Doomed Timelines are the representation of the Many-Worlds Theory, meaning every choice a character makes creates more timelines, but none of them are known except the ones where someone comes back to tell it (as with Future Dave and Aradia). And Andrew Hussie directly states Jade was killed by the meteor in the first recap: "This meant John could not establish a connection with Jade to rescue her from the looming meteor, and Dave and Rose lost contact with her, presuming her dead."
...so i just happened upon this music and i have no idea what it ties to, but apparently there is a dave (with a thigh gap), a one eyed jack, and many epic and sad moments that may or may not exist in some kind of "Homestuck" (I thought it had something to do with Homestar at first) flash animation.
