Difference is neither round is typically used for 500 yds. Your average range for both is typically maxed at 250 yds. The point of these tests is to show what happens with your average shooters range. The 6.5 creedmoor has the ability to be accurate and punch through at 1200 yds where the 30-06 that more people prefer falls short at 9 to 950 yds but again your average person isn't taking shots at that distance. Even in a gun battle you don't wanna waste ammo shooting at someone 500yds away with these rounds
Oh darn it I just said the same thing, then went in to read some of the comments, and the first one was yours, guess we were thinking the same thing😁😆😂😎🤙‼️
It's extremely rare ammunition for the civilian market. Also for how it got on the civilian market? Seller would probably tell you they found it on the side of the road. It is not illegal to possess it though. I would suggest buying pulled bullets of it over actual rounds and reloading it yourself.
In my own testing on 3/8” mild steel @ 200 yards I have seen M80 stopped from a 18” barreled AR10 but defeated by a 16” AR15 with M855A1. That really blew my whistle on the M855A1 (had a muzzle velocity of just over 3,000fps)
Yes, when people talk about penetration a lot of them tend to overlook bullet material and construction, like with the 6.8x51, it's not just about velocity or kinetic energy
With all these test it'd be cool to see a setup where you could put ballistic gel behind it to see the effect after it the bullets pass through. An open back instead of the angled steel.
This series of tests reinforces why 5.56 isn't a one size fits all system. Police should not be equipped with 5.56 as the only option. The Lindt cafe siege showed me graphically what the issues were. The NSW TRG showed up armed with 5.56 and couldn't reliably penetrate the glass so when the R-sole started killing they were obliged to go in. At close quarters the 5.56 over penetrated and killed a hostage. It is like believing that a Grey Fergy ( Ford N) is the only tractor a farmer needs. Lack of a serious anti-material calibre set the scene, lack of man stoppers (10mm, .45 ACP, 444 etc) killed the hostage. There isn't a best, just a best for the application.
Another great episode, and with surprising results! 7.62x39 vs. 30-30 maybe? The pointy commie round vs. the stubby cowboy round, would there be a surprise to found between those two rounds? Or perhaps the newer ballistic/polymer tipped 30-30 vs. the traditional round nose? Hmmm.....
Nice work. It would've been interesting to see how a lighter .30 caliber bullet (e.g. 125 grain fmj) moving at a higher velocity would perform compared to the heavier slower moving bullet.
That would be awesome!!! Thank you for all of the tests that you have performed. I think I’ve seen them all. I love the upgraded mounting system as well.
Excellent video Double B! ❤ I definitely think your strength on this channel is the thick steel. I don't know anyone personally who has ballistics gel and I'm not sure how accurate it is compared to flesh. But tests vs steel tells us info. Keep on keeping on brother.
Just a humble suggestion for that Master Piece Steel Plate 4.1 (🤞) -😁 ! Would be to paint the back of it to see what if any gets through and how much of the remaining projectile hit it ‼️ It would be easier for the camera to pick it up , I think 🤔..❗ 😎👍 P.S. (Have you try the 7x57 mm old mouser round, don't know if you had a run with it or if you have a rifle for it, but I AM Curious what that would do, if you had in the past let me know thanks) 👋❗
That makes sense - the 5.56 has around half the frontal area of a 7.62 so the force is applied to a smaller area. The 5.56 had half the muzzle energy so the net result should have been the same depth of penetration, the difference seems to be the higher velocity of the 5.56.
i would like to see more testing on 1/4 plate,as its more available than the thicker steel and more easily moved around, by one person.lets try 2 1/4 plates a ft apart...test thinner steel plates too see at what thickness a .223 or .308 bullet will breakup at...if 1/8 steel plate will break up a .223 bullet then will another 1/8 plate 2 feet behind it stop all the fragments?? how much velocity is lost by a .223 or .308 bullets passing through 20 ga sheet metal?? its most common on washers and dryers ..
I think I shit myself after seeing the results of that M855A1 5.56 cartridge. That was very impressive. Hope we get to see you shoot more of it... if you can get more M855A1 ammo of course.
Underrated how, it's the most popular hunting and long range round in the country. How exactly is it underrated when it's the benchmark for performance
How about 17-223 vs 223/5.56 and 7mm tcu vs .300 blk? That might shed some light on the whole faster and lighter vs the heavy and slower question, maybe. Heck, some of those old Remington Accelerator 30-30 55gr. Sabot rnds that supposedly goes around 3,400 fps (remember those?) vs 30-30. Would also like to see how the .204 Ruger does. The possibilities are almost endless!
Yes, but those 30-30 accelerator rounds were all over the paper. Force = mass x acceleration. It's not just a good idea, it's the LAW. So, the question becomes TERMINAL BALLISTICS. I love .22-250 at 300 yards, but it will not kill a deer, despite what the math says, because of TERMINAL BALLISTICS! For the reocrd, I am a 30-30 fan since 1980!
Not surprised. I’ve shot .223 and 30-06 at railroad tye plate steel (1/2” thick). .223 goes through. Others don’t. Velocity and smaller diameter help the .223/5.56.
You may need to start putting some clay behind the plate on steel sled version 4.2 xD The M855A1 round went through 1/2" mild steel, the question is what did it do afterwards?
That 26" barrel for the 5.56 really puts it over the edge, IMO. The only time 5.56 actually "loses" is out of both shorter barrels combined with longer distances at the same time.....
thanks for doing this video. Your spoken numbers and versus stuffs came at us REALLY FRIGGIN FAST! SLOW down please, or readable charts... not stupid, just ignorant and willing to learn from an obvious aficionado.
Aside from talking about the A1, which you're not as it was an extra, where are you gettin this 500 feet addition. The test was normal 5.56 vs 7.62x51 and you logged them both as having marginal FPS Increase?
A kazillion years ago welding up the holes in our club’s metallic silhouette targets, the 22-250 was the biggest pain. Sometimes the target would still be standing even totally perforated. The fun cartridges like the 458 Win mag, or the 375 H&H would flatten the targets almost too fast to see, but never did more than a big dent. I think the fast bullets were more like those IEDs with the bullets vaporizing on impact. You could have made a lead mine or toxic dump out of our range with so much lead dust.
ну, если тело мишени из ст20, а сама пуля с сердечником из материалов, типа вк6, или вк8, то "why not"? Как говорится... Через экран не пощупать всё равно ведь.
While your mileage may very... We did a science where in a level III armor plate with anti-spall coating was set at 10 then 25 and the 35 yards. We shoosted it with 55g FMJ "ball" and 62g "penetrator" Lake City ammo from a 24" and then a 16" barrel AR platform. Our results were that the 55g FMJ ammo blasted through the plate and the 62g penetrator never did more than severely dent that plate! We even hand-loaded the 62g penetrator bullets to a chronographed (proof load, plz don't try this at home) velocity of 3304 FPS and at 10, 25 and 35 yards it still did not punch through the armor plate! Where as the 55g FMJ pushing only 3076 FPS from the same rifle sliced a clean hole, even out at to 35 yards. Your thoughts and experiences on our observations would be so very much appreciated!!!
Velocity and Mass matter. Hence the reason I switched my EDC pistol from a 9mm to the 5.7x28. More rounds, better performance! The same applies between the two calibers you've trialed in this video, and it was very interesting to see it revealed!
