5.9 Cummins In A Half Ton? Best Diesel Swap For Small Truck - FilthyVlog 005

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I get this question all the time, it seems like everyone wants to know how to stuff a 5.9 Cummins 12v in a half ton pickup. There are a few questions you need to ask yourself before attempting this swap. #FilthyVlog
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@StarlinerMVS 5 лет назад

Here in Brazil Cummins 4BTA is used in 3/4 trucks with a nice mileage and power. The last F250 made in Brazil had a 3.9 Cummins 16v electronic version. Great engine! Develops 203 hp/405 lb ft and great fuel economy! It can do 25 mpg and reach 100 mph easily.

@nellyfarnsworth7381 5 лет назад

I put a CUMMINS in a 1/2 Chevy. In the bed, with the tailgate down.

@feazableproductions8430 4 года назад

Me 2 . I put 2 in my half ton f150. Tailgate up

@powerconnect761 4 года назад

Was it a Chevy colorado you put it in.because I want to put a Cummins in a calorado an duely rear axle.

@guardrail2897 4 года назад

Even in the bed it was too heavy.

@CountyGarage207 4 года назад

Same I put one in my 2012 Silverado 1500.. in the bed.. to bring it home.. Lol.

@1tylerproud 6 лет назад

When I was a kid I liked to wrench on my cars. The craziest swap I did was taking the old oil out and putting new oil in. Worked perfect and ran like a charm.

@markwood2389 6 лет назад

So your a wise guy"ah" Tony..wers'da'hammer

@leroyj9044 5 лет назад

I used to have one of those fancy fords that would do half of that for me. 1qt of oil every 30 miles until i rebuilt the engine lol

@NovaNinja_ 4 года назад

5.9 will take the oil out by itself

@Bonno460xvr 6 лет назад

Thinking a 6bt on my motorcycle.

@Seth_Stewart 4 года назад

Now that'd be somethin'!

@that-pixel_guy7636 4 года назад

Niceeeee😂👍🏽

@evanlove3015 3 года назад

I think u mean a 4bt

@Dezzylyricz 3 года назад

That be a motorcycle on a 6bt. Heavy as hell but dam 🦫 go for it buddy!

@ChevoMKY5.7 3 года назад

No you can’t

@rodaz9458 2 года назад

My buddy put a 12valve ppump in his k1500, all stock suspension, been running it for a year and a half, hasn’t had any issues with suspension. I’m currently in the process of doing it myself aswell, knowing that it can be done🤘🏼

@156TYSON 5 лет назад

I swapped a 12v p-pump cummins w/ 47rh into a 99 2wd 1500 ram that originally came with the anemic 3.9v6. Had to swap out the front springs, everything bolted in, even used the stock v6 driveshaft. Been driving daily for past 2+ years with over 50k kms and occasionally haul 5-10k lbs with it, the only problem I've had were eating the small 1/2 ton wheel bearings (going with timken or skf bearings fixed that) average fuel economy is 27mpg (much easier on fuel than the v6) in fuel savings alone it paid for itself in a few months (not to mention the power). Truck is making 285hp/ 600+ft-lbs, the stock 9 1/4" rear handles it well. Frame is a little lighter on the 1/2 ton but in a 2wd application it is never really stressed. For those wondering cost of swap I bought a rusted out donor truck for $1200, swapped over everything I needed then sold all remaining parts, all in all I was out around $200 and 2 days of time doing the swap. I'll never own a gas truck again.

@hunterbrock2347 6 лет назад

In a half ton or less application, if you have to have that Cummins emblem, there is of course the R2.8 but also the QSB 3.3 and QSB 4.5 that are not to be forgotten about.

@adriqos 5 лет назад

I have a 98 ram 2500 Cummins 12 valve with 300k miles on it all original no mods it rides and sounds like a tractor and I totally love it ! Thanks for your informative videos ,I learn so much from them. Cheers

@angrypanda3014 5 лет назад

Gm 6.2/6.5 has always been a nice engine to me. Very easy to swap, easy to work on, weakness are well known and easy to bulletproof, dirt cheap and plentiful, available in full mechanical form with minimal electronics, only slight weight penalty, able to increase performance.

@simonramos1217 2 года назад

I just bought my first truck and it’s a diesel with the 6.5 it doesn’t have oil pressure and is going through a lot of coolant. If it needs to be replaced I’m not sure if it’ll be better to do a Cummins swap or do another 6.5?

@TheRevanchist Год назад

@@simonramos1217 snag another 6.5 if you're in a half ton. I was thinking of converting my half ton to a diesel and 4x4 😅

@tomdebaise353 6 лет назад

Me and my boss swapped a 5.2 diesel 4cyl into a Chevy Colorado and was able to get the cluster fully functional and as if it came from the factory. The truck is still on the road from 3 years ago and has 60k miles on the swap and the guy couldn’t be happier. It’s fun, fast and people always pull up next to you scratching their head cuz it’s a Chevy Colorado

@joshcrd7925 6 лет назад

Colorado's come from the factory with diesels.....

@mmjnice97 5 лет назад

@@joshcrd7925 yea...... the new ones!! But not the older Colorado's

@bruce99harley1200 2 года назад

😂

@speedfreak7371 3 года назад

I am getting ready to swap a 6bt in my 1997 f350 crew cab longed dually. It was a gas 5.8 manual trans. It have almost every thing together in a pile. We are going to start it next weekend.

@enriquetorres6069 6 лет назад

I sat here all sad since u made very good points and i wanted to do a 5.9 swap . Then i rememberd i had a 3/4 ton not a 1/2 ton 😂

@homecyber32283 6 лет назад

if u want go that route put a 3.9l in 1/2 its closer to weight of a small block or a big block

@snek9353 6 лет назад

Also depends a lot on what 3/4 ton, there's a lot of "3/4 ton" trucks that are just tweaked 1/2 tons.

@enriquetorres6069 6 лет назад

Well its its a 1999 gmc k2500 it has a 454 big block but ik some come with 6.5s. ?

@snek9353 6 лет назад

If it's a big block truck then probably fine. I'm not a GM expert but plenty of K2500s were lighter duty. They didn't have full float axles, some were even 6 lug, and IIRC there's two sizes of front axle used in K2500s. If it's a 454 then it's probably a true HD, but I can't be sure. With those you still have the torsion bar issues though that he speaks of, the 5.9 is heavy. As well as like in all modern pickups you have front unit bearing issues.

@enriquetorres6069 6 лет назад

Well tbh idk wt kind of front end it has 😣 . It is a light duty truck .vin j i beleive .it deos have 8 lugs and 4×4 .(if it makes a difference) but yea torsion bars would be an issue. Ive already had front wheel bearing problems as well and with the heaver engine u probably rite! Ive used it to haul trailers and the fam to travel it just keeps going.

@dogbird6758 6 лет назад

I dropped a 5.9 12 V out of a 3/4 ton and in to a crew cab dually and I love it!!!

@bayouboattrash 6 лет назад

Well the jokes on you cause I just fit a Detroit v16-149 in a dakota. Can't really tell you how it handles cause the back tires are about a foot off of the ground, so it doesn't really go anywhere. Looks cool though. Jk....

@bayouboattrash 6 лет назад

Also, the front of the engine acts like a plow cause it drags the ground, so it's dual purpose!

@Gabriel.4190 6 лет назад

I died reading your comment😂😂

@scatmanlives 5 лет назад

@jdog942 physic? or a dyslexic psychic even?

@1988diesel 4 года назад

A v16 would be way too big for a dakota to handle.

@bayouboattrash 4 года назад

@@1988diesel lol, jokes on you cause that Detroit is completely happy in its home. I had the re route the steering to sit on top of the turbos so I can see but it's still working out.

@edwinj8275 4 года назад

My friends usually do this swap on half ton dodge rams. We use gassers second gens single cab shortbeds 2wd and everything bolts right in, major thing is getting the drive shaft shortened and it’s quick trucks. We also just cut the frame on single cab short beds 3/4 tons with Cummins already in then which is easier since we’re only cutting 14 inches out of the frame and cut it as a Z and we haven’t had any issues. Fun little trucks, I hope you get to see one of them and make a video about them.

@ShiftedInterests 6 лет назад

For anyone wondering, our ranger has a kubota v2203 with a small VW ko series turbo. It’s great for fuel economy, sounds great, and is unique. Would be better suited for a single cab 2wd Ranger

@CJE2007.5 6 лет назад

Shifted Interests - Chris Boot you have any video's or anything to look it up. That sounds like it would be pretty fun. Be neat to see.

@MLGXBOXPRO 6 лет назад

Go to their channel and watch the vids. It is really cool swap on a clean truck. There are diesel ranger swaps all over. Check out TDI club user GreenGeeker he has a 2wd ranger swapped to a 1.9l vw diesel. Best way to get a diesel ranger is to buy a mk4 vw TDI with a blown auto trans and pick the engine and all other parts needed. Gastodiesel has parts for this conversion too.

@CJE2007.5 6 лет назад

Jake R thanks. I will definitely go check them out.

@vdelrio999 6 лет назад

How loud is the diesel in the Ranger and did/will you add any soundproofing?

@suavehouse5150 6 лет назад

I have 03 TDI ALH in my garage only 200k on it lol

@redneckoperations8190 6 лет назад

The Chevy 6.2l diesel is a great choice for a half ton. Chevy used to offer Suburbans from the factory with 6.2s in them. Very efficient engine, you won’t be the first up the hill, but you’ll make it, and get the higher MPG you want

@jacobmoses3712 Год назад

And with @BanksPower 's turbo kit, they go pretty well too, if the engine doesn't have a turbo

@WBOS72 6 лет назад

I agree Rich - there is so many advantages to an HD over a 1500/150. Go HD if doing a diesel conversion.

@PaoloSpedaliere 5 месяцев назад

I put a 5.9 Cummins with a NV4500 4x4 in my 2001 Chevy Tahoe. I’ve put about 70 000km on it. Runs and drives great with no problems.

@2000freefuel 4 года назад

Mercedes Diesel OM606 (6 cyl 3.0L) and OM617 (5 cyl 3.0L) is a good fit for many smaller rigs. not much power with a stock pump but can be setup to produce near 500HP

@vanishingfox1339 Год назад

Love my om642 pre-DEF just wish they were swap friendly. The overall packaging is great but the electronics it’s a pita.

@AmericanThunder 5 лет назад

I built my 1978 Bronco in 2009, it has 6" suspension lift and 3" body lift. I used a 1991 12V Cummins in it, purpose-built C6 auto by Dynamic Racing with billet converter, custom rear driveshaft from Tom Woods with 1350 joints, Forged rear 1350 yoke in a stock 9" Ford rear with stock 5 lug axles and stock 3.54 gears, stock Dana 44 front end, with an OEM trac-loc I built for it. I built a hybrid turbo and have the VE pump turned up as far as possible, so it's probably making at least 350 hp at the wheels. I have access to a certified truck scale on my property, so after I relocated the entire drivetrain back in the chassis by 4 inches, the weight bias front to rear of the Bronco is now actually better than it was with the stock V8 engine. I run 37x12.50R16.5 Military Humvee tires on it, too. The Cummins Bronco averages 22-25 mpg and if cruising on a back road at 40-50 mph, it's getting closer to 30 mpg. Truck weight is 5150 on the scale, stock it was 4600. After driving it for more than 50,000 miles over 10 years, the only issues I've had was in the early stages, I was twisting off driveshafts, due to the 6 inch suspension lift and sharp shaft angle, but lowering the transfer case 4" in the chassis got rid of that problem. For 10 years, I've been using it as my daily driver, offroad toy, occasional puller, rescue truck for pulling people out of deep snow and in the summer, I even drag race it on pavement, so I'm not exactly gentle with it. (As you can see from the video on my channel, it's not slow lol ) There actually is zero downside to building a truck like this.

@tommykj2 6 лет назад

Looks like I get to be that guy. Yes I have a 96 12v in a 98 z71. Lots of good tips brought up about doing a swap like mine in this video though. It's not a simple drop in swap, and it is not a cheap swap. The more you know and do yourself, the cheaper you can make it.

@martinmordel8045 6 лет назад

2.7L 5 cyl sprinter diesel is a great swap into 1/2 ton pick up. Friend of mine has that set up in 2007 crew short bed f 150. yes, is 2wd and using full drive line and computer from wrecked sprinter.

@paulbakovic7475 5 лет назад

Thank you!!!! Finally, honesty!! And a brain And empathy. Sure you can do it! But listen to someone that actually is going to care about the long run!!

@MikeIllusion92 6 лет назад

Toyota's 1HD-FTE is insanely popular here in Australia. Straight six, turbo 4.2L. 164hp.

@dposcuro 6 лет назад

I know this is 5 months old, anyways: Unfortunately, we here in North America don't get many imported diesels. Outside of Mercedes, VWs? Nothing really desirable comes here. Well, unless you want to start looking into Hinos, and Isuzu medium duty trucks, but they don't litter the scrap yards, and parts tend to be costly (I believe).

@miroslawmitera8296 6 лет назад

I have one in canada in a 80 series with a 5 speed. Awesome machine. Went from stock 31 to 37 and didnt have to regrear

@dposcuro 6 лет назад

Gotta ask, how did you source it?

@miroslawmitera8296 6 лет назад

Goldmarble i have 1hdt from 1990 lc80. Rhd imported to vancouver bc.

@dposcuro 6 лет назад

Ahh yeah, that makes sense. Just wish we didn't have to ship them in from some other country.

@zero-twentysix 6 лет назад

Similar question to, Is it worth it to put an ls in an audi? Financially, probably not. If it's just for grins and you know that most things needs upgraded, absolutely.

@CJE2007.5 6 лет назад

Brian E lol i was scrolling through the comments just to see if someone had mentioned this.

@wackowacko8931 5 лет назад

If you were going to put a diesel in an Audi, you would want the late 90s VW TDI 1.9 or the later common rail 2.0 VW, or maybe the BRM 1.9 PD VW. Since Audi and VW are part of the same company, the transaxle and motor would stand a better chance of fitting and working with the wiring harness.

@greatmindof1201 5 лет назад

I did a 2011 f150 SAS with king coilovers and put a SDP trans and have had no complaints from my client

@ngonzalez2235 5 лет назад

Did you do a 5.9 swap?

@awashbowler 6 лет назад

I put my 12 valve and nv4500 into my 1981 Chevy C30. It's crazy how much vehicles have changed in the last few decades. Technically, it is rated as a 1 ton truck. But when compared to today's trucks, it looks like it is built like a half ton. I ended up using coil springs rated for the big block variant of my truck and that held the weight very nicely. I would only do one major thing different if I did the same swap again... I would definitely box the entire frame... Cummins are torque-y!

@inthegarage8944 6 лет назад

Austin Washburn I have a 91 v3500 4x4 lifted with a cummins and could not agree more on boxing the frame. Everything is on the move, can only imagine what some of the conversions out there must be like.

@olov244 6 лет назад

I've always wanted a 4x4 80's-90's suburban with a cummins, a tow anything anywhere vacation rig - might not ever happen, but it would be cool

@sdub300 6 лет назад

I seen one just like that last week!

@robertmason5383 6 лет назад

We had big block in are 3/4 third row mid 80s 8mpg loaded or just to the store.

@bruce99harley1200 2 года назад

Never give up on your dreams I hope you accomplished your dreams brother

@Impossibilty232 6 лет назад

Got a 12 valve and zf5 in my 79 f150. Tow with it and haul shit everyday. Daily drive it. Not had a single problem. And they actually weigh 950 pounds with everything on it

@manuelbenavides3109 3 года назад

I have a 79 f150 with a 5.9 cummins with a manual 6 speed,ive put about 12,000 miles on it,and haven't had any problems at all so i think if its done properly, you shouldn't have any problems

@Skwisgar2322 6 лет назад

One exception on the frame is the Dodge ram 1500 Megacab, it uses the 2500 frame.

@erikkovacs3097 6 лет назад

A lot of bread and came with an Allison 1000 behind a 4bt. These were the isb170 4bts so 170hp vs 105hp.

@PalRider2000 6 лет назад

Thanks for this info answered a lot of questions I had especially about the frame I was thinking the frames on the half tons were a little bit weaker than a 3/4 ton frame but I wasn't for sure not a lot of people can give you an honest answer but I figure if you do enough of them you probably know a little bit more than I do and there's nothing wrong with that. Keep up the good work

@RuSrsbro 5 лет назад

Snag a 3/4 frame from the wreckers and do the work to it. When you're ready you can (most likely) just unbolt the 1/2 ton body and set it onto the better frame with the engine install done

@RuSrsbro 5 лет назад

Then sell your rtr 1/2 ton frame for what you bought the frame for, plus a little for the running gear you don't use

@turbogrin 5 лет назад

I have a 1997 dodge Ram 1500 ext Cab 4x4 Short bed that I converted to a first gen 5.9 ! Hx35 turbo and 50 over injectors! I changed out the dana 44 front end to a dana 60 from a 98 dodge ram 2500 and the rear end is a dana 70 from the same ram 2500! I also installed a NV4500 with a 241 DLD T Case. I used the stock gas front coils with a 2" leveling kit in the front. Rides nice with double layer of Dyna matt from front to back of the cab! I also installed Spin Free Hubs and rebuild all the complete steering components! I also installed a B & W Hide a ball and tow my 18 Foot and 16 foot gooseneck stock trailers. Oh air bags in the rear ! LOL

@N4TeDoGg96 3 года назад

94-01 dodge ram 1500 and 2500 have the exact same frame infact the only difference is the rear leafsprings and the hanger for them and the coil springs upfront, Now assuming you have a 01 dodge ram 1500 ws with 3.9l magnum v6 and 42re transmission and you have a 12v cummins with a nv5600 transmission it will bolt in, you will need ¾ton springs in the front and you will need the crossmember from a 2500 with manual transmission to make everything a bolt up swap the only part you will need custom made is a driveshaft and everything else will work fine, I definitely recommend upgrading the brakes at that point and go ahead and use ¾ton suspension and remember before starting addressing the kdp (killer dowl pin) is a must

@danielsnow2836 Год назад

I swapped a Nissan sd25 in a 1952 Willy’s jeep great little engines and really good fuel mileage

@con3186 6 лет назад

im glad you made this video, i was gonna buy a rusted out 2nd gen cummins and swap into my 1/2 ton just becuase the body is in decent condition. swaping the panels is way more viable

@1958johndeere620 6 лет назад

Yup, your right, I have seen it. Guy put a 12valve matched with an allison 5 speed auto. He drag races it and pulls it at the fairs. The welding teacher at my tech school put a 3208 cat in his 1/2 ton.

@JasonTaylor1 6 лет назад

I like the Idea of putting a diesel and a truck but I guess the bigger question is what is the best vehicle for me. Part-time contractor, have a job trailer that is 5000#. I dont tow every day, more on weekends. Would like decent fuel economy, reliability, and not an insane price of a new lux-o-truck, but comfortable.

@clintwilliams5026 6 лет назад

I know we are all thinking about it. What do you think about a C7 Cat swap into a 1 ton pickup truck.

@daviddelambert2752 6 лет назад

or swap the 1 ton body onto a medium duty frame that is already running a C7 CAT and a medium duty Alison or Eaton-Fuller transmission. maybe a 2000-2009 F650 with wheel-base around 168" with a pre-1997 F350 CrewCab LongBed body

@jvanlieu1 6 лет назад

Why can't you hit the like button more then once.

@daviddelambert2752 6 лет назад

jvanlieu...you can hit it as many times as you want... just make sure it is a odd number of times...

@jedidiah4004 5 лет назад

Had several C7/3126 motors in the shop this year, I really couldn't recommend them, no liners like bigger cat's. Saw a few cracked blocks with under 200k

@ricardoventura7366 5 лет назад

What do you think about putting n14 in a h1 hummer

@kimmer6 6 лет назад

I put a Kubota 905 three cylinder diesel in a Geo Metro Convertible. 24 horsepower in a 54 hp car. It was slower than frozen shit but got 70mpg while I was testing it. Then the State of California found out about it and threatened me with lethal injection and chemical castration so I couldn't register it. When an EMP takes everything out, I can still bump start this thing and go 55 mph on the flat and run over zombies. Also.... Kubotas have fixed injection pump timing and the driveability sucks compared to automotive variable timing pumps.

@MichaelDavis-cy4ok 6 лет назад

The zombie apocalypse is already here. All the undead are in the California state government.

@kimmer6 6 лет назад

Michael Davis.... I wish you were fibbing....but its true. The corpse posing as Moonbeam is actually a Reptilian lizard being from planet Zeptune and they are toying with us like a cat screws with a mouse before crushing its skull.

@dustinLenn 5 лет назад

kimmer6 did you do any kind of write up on the geo-Kubota swap? Got a 95 lsi about to take a crap wouldn’t mind a diesel re-power!

@DarkLinkAD 5 лет назад

Hello again sir, nice to see ya about.

@gcrauwels941 5 лет назад

Outstanding.

@youbecha64 5 лет назад

I spent a lot of time under my old fullsize 70's era Jimmy, and under my late 90's Dodge Cummins...I can tell you that every single component of the suspension and driveline was about twice the size from the Dodge to the Jimmy...and even with that the Dodge destroys front steering components at twice the rate of the GM product.

@WAWAWRKS 4 года назад

Answers my question to myself about a 4BT in my VW... Only because I figured it would be easier than trying to laterally mounting the TDI that's in it

@MrSapper21 4 года назад

I was lucky enough to find a 1994 ram 2500 with 188k miles on it. I got it for $3500 and its the best truck ever.

@patrickwayne3701 3 года назад

RakkasanMedic,, you will find out, over time, that you got a real deal. There are people getting 10k out of 1st gen Cummins Dodges that you can throw a cat through.

@MickeyMishra 3 года назад

TDI swaps are starting to look really good

@trythistv 6 лет назад

Gen2 Dodges are the same in terms of frames at least in my findings. I've got a 96 3/4 ton and an 01 1/2 ton. I measured multiple key places front to rear on both before deciding to use the 1/2 ton frame for my swap since it was in better shape, Not a spot of rust, wheras the 96 had some surface rust all over the frame and the cab was rotted to the core. I swapped the 5.9 cummins out of the 96 into the 01, along with the springs, axles, trans, transfer case. the 01 originally had a 5.9 v8 gas motor. total cost so far is less than 4 grand for both trucks and assorted goodies I've added, and parts I've broken along the way. Now Ford and Chevy I'd bet you're right in the differences, I've also got an 01 F150 and it sits and rides far lower and spongier than the 1/2 ton dodge did even before swapping the diesel stuff over, suspension would never support a 6bt.

@trythistv 6 лет назад

Adding one more thought. If I was going to swap a small engine in a half ton, I'd use a Mercedes OM617. I've got 2 cars with those engines, and they are the reason I bought trucks with 6bts. you look at the 6bt then look at the 617, they are alarmingly similar. both use mechanical inline IPs, and are very solid built little engines, they weigh around 600lbs. I'd put one in my f150 if it wasn't rusting out.

@mariomartin1981 5 лет назад

i also measured a 99 3500 frame next to my 2001 1500 frame,and they are indeed the same,no difference that could measure,maybe the earlier second gen trucks used smaller frames,but the newer stuff looks the same,

@addamochs 5 лет назад

Thanks for the idea. I have my Grandpa's old 94 C1500 exteded cab short bed with the 5-7. Engine doesn't turn anymore, frame and body has Michigan cancerous rust. Have suspension parts to do a 4/6 drop when I restore it. Now, I might put a 5-9 in it and bag the suspension instead. Was planning on brake upgrade anyways (Baer 6 piston calipers). Just swap out to a 14 bolt full float with a disc brake conversion too. It'd be a daily driver and not a tow rig.

@montycrain5783 3 года назад

You could always use a 3/4 or 1 ton truck and shorten and splice the frame and actually make it stronger with gusset plates inside and out, and put a half ton short box if you want a sporty diesel.

@futurefunds9353 5 лет назад

being a shop owner, I get these questions all the time..... and I explain it pretty much the same way you do...then I get the inevitable response " I saw a guy do it on youtube…. and it only took him like 8 hours, why are you trying to charge me 25 hours?"

@80f250 5 лет назад

I seen a 80 f150 with a 5.9 it fit really nice only required a small dent in firewall and the 460 engine is 700 pounds fully dressed

@oldreliable303 6 лет назад

ok my 300 l6 will work my 1/2 ton to death, towing it will blow u joints, cook the trans and back axle.... and that little 300 as no issuse pulling 10,000 to 15,000 lb behind the truck, the rest of the truck hates it. so just couse a you have little gasser does not you does not mean you need more power for pulling

@Turbotalkin 4 года назад

I can attest to the 10k part I grossed 14k cross country pulling boat from MN to FL and back 300 never let me down I have 4.10 in it. Just has a different pull then my 351w does

@miguelrocks1000 6 лет назад

Luckily my 4.9 inline weighs close to 850~900lbs dressed up in my 93 f150. Same body as 3/4 and bigger. I'm thinking about swapping in the 6bt in it. Maybe a couple years.

@stevenhorsefield2909 6 лет назад

I did a 91 Chevy k1500 reg cab short box with a 5.9 cummins Dana 60 front end and 14 bolt rear end, nv4500 trans and np205 transfercase everything fit good with no body lift, With 37s got 18 mpg in town and 22 highway. Just wasn't good for towing because of the short wheelbase and being lifted on 37s but was awesome truck off-road. The truck is on my channel.. I sold it years ago thou.

@nrs91 6 лет назад

We put 5.9 Cummins in Land Rover Defenders, box section chassis and tough suspension helps :P

@undurdalip 5 лет назад

I’m currently in the middle of swapping a C223T into my 1988 Nissan D21. Hoping to be finished in about a week. I’ll take a video and post a link when it’s finished.

@123pvpworld 6 лет назад

om606, 3l 24v 177hp, hx40 and dieselmeken pump 400hp no problem.

@Diesel8290 5 лет назад

123pvpworld they have no torque tho and aren’t good for towing. It wouldn’t last either in a towing application with 400hp

@wackowacko8931 5 лет назад

OM606 is HALF the weight of a 5.9 due to an aluminum block, and can put out as much as 500 ft lbs with the right mods (dieselmeken). The one weak link is the rods, which can be fixed. It would be a good option for a 1/2 ton vs the 6bt, if it has to be a diesel. OM617 is another option and is shorter (5cyl) , heavier than the OM606 but super reliable. Both are considerably cheaper than you can buy a used 6bt for.

@Diesel8290 5 лет назад

wacko wacko first of all the om606 has an iron block. Yes if only weighs around 210kg, actually lighter than a 2jz. But to make that 500 ft lbs you want a considerable turbo and you’ll have lag till at least 2500rpm. They also are a square engine by design and Causing low torque but the ability to rev to 7k!. There very hard to keep cool under load, and egts skyrocket,. There for cars and racing not working lol

@luiscervantes197 5 лет назад

I think all you guys make real good points. The OM606 is a great motor and can be a good candidate but perhaps not for everyone. I have that motor on a half ton, short bed Silverado (2002). I love it! But my intent with that project was fuel economy and daily driving. I doubt I could tow much. I love the acceleration with stock 6mm plungers and EDC pump. My last very precise measure of MPGs revealed 30. It will definitely get better, I hope to achieve 35 and I'm pretty confident I will. I would definitely recomend it for a fuel-saving, daily driver on a half ton truck.

@Diesel8290 5 лет назад

Luis Cervantes with a small early enough spooling turbo and the correct coolant modifications they could probably tow up to 3 ton comfortably. But the in direct injection and short stroke don’t help for low end pulling.

@boostaddict_ 3 года назад

I'm looking at picking up a 27k km Dodge D150 right now to put a 5.9 Cummins into, as more of a fun daily than an actual work truck. I am fully aware that stuff will break if I don't upgrade it lol. I could just buy a D250 with a Cummins already in it, but they're way overpriced. If it weren't such an easy swap I'd probably just do a Mercedes OM606, still plan to do that in a C10 someday.

@adrian_wkn 6 лет назад

Never swapped it, but a Hino 3B is a great, reliable, economical 4cyl diesel. Trans is extremely beefy for whawt it outputs. 22-33MPG while moving a 2 ton landcriuser and lasting for millions of miles. It's a slow dog though.

@jesseharriott4253 Год назад

I swapped a nv4500 into my gmt-400 heavy half. Just so at some point I could swap in a Cummins. But… the trans itself is freaking heavy. But with 373 gears and 37” tires 100 kmh is 1700 rpm and she’s wicked on fuel. So rich is 100% right. Since then I picked up a 2500 HD chassis time to start over lol

@jesseharriott4253 Год назад

Also when I jump from my 6.7 dually work truck to my very lifted gas job I notice how it feels like a car haha such a weight difference. My gmt400 is torsion bar lifted but it has the upper ball joints flipped and 17” rims to clear the control arms. The benefit? You can go higher without snapping the torsion bars. 3” blocks in back and 3” body lift clears 37”s the body lift drops my gear shift lower (awesome) and when I want to change my clutch it’s suuuper easy to get at all of the bell housing bolts

@kevinkanak1380 6 лет назад

Next time you do a video like this Rich, can you answer the question about a 700r4 behind a 4BT?

@dougbauer891 5 лет назад

A lot of it would be for gratification to look back at it at the end of the day and say yes I did that. That’s the main reason I built my truck

@Bens359pete 5 лет назад

Man, there goes my idea! Was hoping to make my c10 get 30 mpg. Haha

@johnfrese4851 4 года назад

if it has a five speed in it there is a swap kit for the four cylinder engine and trans for it but I would strengthen the frame for it. as well putting a better style of rear end as well. had a guy I help do it but it took a lot of time to do. the most popular is the four cylinder five speed jeeps where the trans you can keep but have to get a adapter for it and start swapping the fuel out and the pump out for the fuel

@tristonmurdock4586 3 года назад

It's been done, there's even a guy that made videos detailing every step of the process and he did it for roughly 4 grand, but he had to reinforce his frame with steel plating

@maxwilding 5 лет назад

Mercedes om605/om606 5/6 cylinder turbo diesel is great and built proof. Can easily got more power and adapter plates too

@DEBOSSGARAGE 5 лет назад

We are putting an OM605 in a 48 convertible. Have both, just need the time.

@tooterturtle7849 6 лет назад

You can put a 3.9 4BT weights about 700

@dougschack9341 3 года назад

The Team Boosted channel just installed a Mercedes OM606 diesel into a Datsun 280z. By all apparent observations the car will bend space-time.

@Nymi5 6 лет назад

Mercedes om603, om605, om606 diesels are grate swap engines, i have a om603 with bigger turbo and the plungers are bigger in the injectionpump... It make 430hp and 770Nm on the dyno... It have over 50000km with that setup and no broblems. Take a look in youtobe "mercedes benz 300 superturbo"

@MrPizzaman09 5 лет назад

Working at a plant where they make semi engines and then you see a 6.7L, they look so tiny! Even the small semi engines are over 2000 lbs, so they would squash your pickup. The torque would rip the drive line out as well.

@morgansword 5 лет назад

I bought a square body one tn chevy from an attorney and he mentioned that he put a diesel engine in it which I did care cause I ran both anyway. I got it off the tra,er and opened the hood to find a five cylinder Deutz engine in it... Okay.... I can use one of those but started it up and like he said it was making a strange nose in the engine but there was oil sssssquirting out of the side of it. I fond some brase and hooked a pressure gage on it and of course oil problem solved but the noise was real light. I dropped the pan and rolled some mains and rods in and the thing actually lived. I put the motor on a skid and a air compressor on it for a mining shaft that just didn't have enough breathable air in it and everything was fine but I was stuck with a good quality adapter for said engine to th400 adaptor plate. I threw a small bock in the chevy and drove for a while but that Deutz killed the front end and it was quicker to sell and buy a good dadge tk with cummins and still have it out back with may other junk project to never be completed. The reason I wrote you was that guy had four mufflers on that truck and I just put a new system on it. Duet is a air cooled engine and they are NOT quiet anyway but it ran as a air compressor for over ten years and nothing ever done to it said seriously

@brenanmathis5034 5 лет назад

5.9 Cummins super torque and power

@koitk 6 лет назад

e-mailed him asking if I can put cummins into lawnmower, mostly for great milage, allthough half the year grass doesn't even grow - but never got an aswer.

@billygreenhorn9275 6 лет назад

his answer is you can but why?

@johngregson4030 6 лет назад

After this video I think I'm just gonna shorten a frame of a 2500 instead of swap my shorty 2nd gen, god I love this channel

@douglaspage2398 5 лет назад

Yes, I am going to be one of the guys who will argue, only on one point, because it depends on the purpose. If the purpose is power, towing, and anything above the half ton's normal use, you are right, but there is another reason for the swap: Fuel economy. There are 2 rear axles in the half ton Dodge, the larger can handle a well built big block. So no problem there. as long as the trans is included, and the springs upgraded, a stock 12 valve cummins will be fine for normal driving, and will deliver better fuel mileage than the 3.9, the v8 models, or the 3/4 ton Cummins models, due to the reduction in parasitic drag, lower weight, and taller gears.

@gregedwards853 4 года назад

I have a detroit 6.5L in my GMC half ton. Came from the factory like that.

@JacuzziSurfer 4 года назад

you just saved me a lot of money and heart ache, thanks!

@jesselangdown8667 4 года назад

Toyota makes alot of great diesels for us here in Australia

@GamerGunnar 5 лет назад

mercedes om606 is a great diesel engine, both suitable for fuel economy and power. I got one and get 35 mpg. They're also really easy to tune and get 3-600hp depending on how much your pour into it. But you can get a 350hp engine by swapping turbo, leaving the pump to dieselmeken and swapping injectors. Which all and all will set you back about $2500

@luiscervantes197 5 лет назад

Yes, the 606 is great. It's perfect for half ton Silverado for daily driving. What kind of vehicle do you have the 606 on?

@GamerGunnar 5 лет назад

@@luiscervantes197 I have it in its original S124 chassis, But I've seen them put into everything from boats, tractors, G-wagons and Landrovers so I figured they should probably do the job in a half-ton as well

@luiscervantes197 5 лет назад

I agree, it has proved to be perfect for my half ton Silverado, at least for daily driving. The 606 moves my truck with great spirit and still returns 30mpg highway.

@GamerGunnar 5 лет назад

@@luiscervantes197 Cool, Are you using an adapterplate or a original gearbox ?? A G-wagon gearbox would probably fit in a ranger but maybe its more work than just a adapterplate, I honestly don't know.

@FirstGenDiesel 6 лет назад

There is a guy in Austin Tx that stuck a ve pump 5.9 in a 3rd gen 1500. It is a sick build! Some folks can't rap there heads around the fact that sometimes things are done for fun and not practicality. I have read lots of Why comments about your Audi, which is also a sick build!

@Dibbs18 6 лет назад

FirstGenDiesel I watch your channel, would ya know how different an 86 W150 frame is from a 250 I know they used the same frame for years

@FirstGenDiesel 6 лет назад

Sorry my friend! I have no experience with gas 1st gens. I hope to own a W150 for a mud truck some day. Next time I have a 150 around I am going to check the thickness of the frame and compare it to the 350. I am sure Deboss knows his stuff and he said that there is a difference in strength .

@derekpainter9010 6 лет назад

FirstGenDiesel thanks for the mention bud. 👍

@FirstGenDiesel 6 лет назад

Yes sir, your welcome! Your truck is awesome! I would love to Interview your truck some day for my channel!

@derekpainter9010 6 лет назад

FirstGenDiesel thanks man. I'm down. I can talk trucks all day long. Lol

@mungbean84 6 лет назад

Nissan TD42, Toyota 1HZ, 12HT, 13BT, 1HDT, ISUZU 4BD1T. All diesels around the 4-4.5L size. Try looking in buses and small cab over trucks.

@Jaxen90841 6 лет назад

Didn't those guys on MotorTrend Roadkill channel put a Cummins diesel in a Cadillac?

@chuckfults9256 6 лет назад

Road Kill Ep. 55 it's on you screwed!

@gideondecker3980 5 лет назад

Yeah remember how much the front suspension squited

@jeffchrivia5904 5 лет назад

Yes

@number1yota 4 года назад

The motor Trend Dirt Everyday guys did a Cummins in a roadrunner

@mtnmosin2740 4 года назад

And it was amazing after some tuning!

@reinhardvandermerwe6585 5 лет назад

Love your Vids. The swap scene looks way different in my home South Africa... Most people here do Lexus V8 conversions.. Would like to do a Land Rover Defender conversion with a 5.9 Cummins! yes it has been done.. Plenty of 5.9's available here but very expensive.

@anthonywebber2211 6 лет назад

My Colorado with an 2.8 I-4 has the same transmission found in Camaros, GTOs and GM full size trucks And to put a Allison transmission in a half ton truck you need a 3" lift

@johnhalter445 5 лет назад

I have trouble keeping ball joints and tie rods in a 1 ton with a 5.9 their is no way a half ton can hold up to the weight.

@Lawnmower-os5pg 5 лет назад

Just stick with a ford 300 i6 They’re basically diesels with spark plugs

@80f250 5 лет назад

I agree I run 300's in my 84 f150 although i did see a 5.9 in a 80 f150 it fit almost perfect he used the 300 six motor stands and dented the fire wall one small place

@erikcapozzi771 4 года назад

Lol far from it 🤣🤣 they are reliable thats about it

@yucannthahvitt251 4 года назад

No power, mediocre torque, shit fuel economy, basically no performance potential. Yeah they're just like a diesel... Dumb fanboy... With 40 extra cubic inches they make less horsepower and the same torque as a Chevy 4.3 V6, unimpressive. Basically the only good thing about a 300 i6 is that it'll last a long time.

@MrPlemke50 4 года назад

Everything else will fall apart around the engine.

@Joebauers2505 3 года назад

@@yucannthahvitt251 I know it's a year old but , with a proper combo a 300 can make decent power and keep the same shitty mileage.

@chrischadwick5895 3 года назад

My thing is I have an 87 w100 I have put some money into with a solid frame 3/4 suspension and have a set of 1 tons to swap in. I have built my frame to be stronger than a 3/4 and plan to put the 5.9 I found cheap into so basiclly I will have a 3/4 5.9 for way less than a partial restore on a 5.9 truck so I don't see how it won't work

@asherdie 5 лет назад

Another 300 pounds per front wheel is no problem. The 440 pound plow hanging out the front is a lot heavier when you consider the lever effect.

@smjones4238 5 лет назад

If you're in love with your half ton but want a diesel, buy a same year 3/4 T with the engine and transmission you want and swap the body. Why make all of that work for yourself. You'll have lots of leftovers to sell, mainly a 3/4 ton cab & box on a 1/2 ton chassis. PLUS you'll have the bragging rights that you made it up from 'two trucks'. Michael in Colorado.

@aeroe2144 4 года назад

Supposedly 89 and 90 dodge ram w/d100 150 and 250 share frames , but allegedly some 250s frames formed cracks because of the 6bt(torque) so they beefed um up in 91. (Can't confirm as I havent personally measured the frames)

@ravenfeather7087 5 лет назад

I want a 5.9 in my 97 Tacoma. Pretty sure you can pull it off if you just weld a second front end to the frame in front of the existing engine. Quadar-turn!! It'll be so cool! Wanna do it? Whoo hoooo - people will look at me!!!!

@slowdaze 6 лет назад

2-stroke Detroits FTW

@FishFind3000 6 лет назад

slowdaze lol put a Detroit diesel on a pickup.

@slowdaze 6 лет назад

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@andrewlippincott 5 лет назад

Hey! thanks for addressing this ! it can actually be dangerous. Your right unless you want to convert your half ton to a 3/4 or bigger its just not worth it. Now I love my quad cab Dakota might be smaller but with kids its so much easier! so what I'm doing is putting a 1 Ton chassis frame everything under the Dakota body.A Lot easier than trying to beef up the frame and Doing an S.A.S. and mixing part just easier when i bought the frame axles fuel tank ext for only 300 And saw able to sell the Dakota chassis for 700 to the junk yard i just made 400. the Cummins Is 24 Valve and Allison transmission out of a school buss with 132000 for 800 and just sold the trans for 1000 again i just made money on the swap. Just gotta look for deal and when it comes to engines. Make sure if you can either open it up or match paperwork such as maintenance records with the vehicle it came from! saving me Thousands and plus I'm Making Money on the swap!

@harrisonrawlinson5650 3 года назад

I’m in the UK with a 2002 ranger XLT. I’m thinking the 4BT would be better but people are telling me that I would fit a 5.9, but I care more about the weight. It’d handle awfully with all that weight on the front axle

@eastside0434 Год назад

Speaking about transmissions,I sold a transmission that came out of a wheel horse tractor for $65 dollars to a guy at a flea market,he called me up and told me it wouldn't fit and he wanted a refund,I never called him back because he said he wanted it and it would work,then he went to the office and complained about me to the manager,he got me into trouble because he didnt know what he was doing.

@connorewers478 3 года назад

Just incase u didn't know the 2nd gens frames are all the same the only thing u have to change is the transmission mount

@samstrucks 3 года назад

I’m sure he’s right but I’m still doing it. K10 with the the 6.2 putting a 5.9 in

@zach4321 6 лет назад

My only knock on your opinion here is you say drive the truck into the ground then buy a new truck... Why not just rebuild the gas motor? If they want more torque then add goodies into the rebuild.

@xwhogafx815 6 лет назад

Cool to see you on ROB speg live stream. Love the down home grass roots style. From idaho usa with love. Keep on keepin on

@miguelrocks1000 4 года назад

This is exactly what I'm doing now. Basically dropped right into my 93 f150. Almost looks oem.

@terrabnadia1793 5 лет назад

My buddy has a single cab short bed half ton 2nd gen Dodge with a 24V Cummins in it and it makes over 500hp... probably not the smartest thing but definitely fun