5 Reasons You Should NOT Use HEAVY ARROWS With Your CROSSBOW! 

the faster they make the crossbow, the heavier minimum weight goes up

I started shooting heavier arrows with expandable broadheads in my crossbow many moons ago when I stepped up to a larger cut. My thinking was heavier arrow, wider cut, better penetration. Not only did it tighten my groups, but it quieted/less vibration my crossbow considerably. No complaints from me across the board. Max leakage and full freezers. Happy, happy, happy!

I don't use heavy bolts for pass-through. I use them to save my limbs. When I say heavy I mean 480 to 500 grains total weight. The average crossbow bundle comes with bolts that are around 340 grains and normally people use a 100 grain broadhead. So 440 is basically the average weight. In my opinion that's just too light for a bow that has 200lb of draw. KILLER INSTINCT Are you listening??

Here in Missouri, we have open season on doe's throughout the entire bow and firearm season, with doe tags being $7 each and you can buy and fill as many tags as you have money for. I have brought down not less than 2 doe's every year for the last 5 years and this year have 3 and we haven't gone half way through the season yet. My point is, I don't know squat about hunting and am in it for the meat, not the horns. I've always been an excellent marksman with a rifle and handgun so I used that to my benefit with a crossbow. Started with a cheap recurve and moved up to a 370 FPS Bear Karnage. What hasn't changed is the cheap, $30 per dozen Chinese 20" bolts I buy on ebay! I fit them with Rage mechanical broadheads. Every year these cheap bolts have performed just fine and if I break or loose one the only regret I harbor is for the broadhead. lol My point is, as you say, if it works, why change it?

there is a video about modern crossbows splintering...he put forth that the recommended bolt weight is the absolute minimum and shooting at that minimum still has some extraneous forces turning back into the limbs causing the splintering... he recommends going up to 450 grains and he even went up over 500 grains. these will dissipate those forces through the arrow and not the bow itself... plus raising the momentum just means the bolts are gonna go deeper...

I'm new to deer hunting and took my first 2 deer with my rifle last season. My wife ordered me a crossbow that should arrive today (yay!) so I can extend my season a couple months in my region (Archery begins in August, Gun begins the Saturday before Thanksgiving). I really appreciated this video as a new archer who knows little. Your tone, thoughtfulness and reasoning along with your voice is very calming and helpful.

Love the videos! I got my first crossbow whitetail kill a few days ago on the maiden voyage with my CP Sniper 370. I got a mature doe on public land my first day into the woods since coming home. Thanks for all your content! It has helped out tremendously for this newbie to crossbows.

I just watched your vid on not using heavy arrows. Season opened on the 3rd and I have two in the freezer. I am not using the stock arrows but I am using the same weight arrow as stock. You are 100% right, If it ain't broke don't fix it. Later guys, Headed for the woods. Good luck to all this season. Bill

light arrow you can break the limbs of recurve bow, compound bow or crossbow, not too heavy but also not too light

I am getting into crossbow hunting so I can get a head start during archery season before the intense hunting pressure of rifle season. I have learned a ton of info about crossbows from watching your channel. Thanks a lot. "All hail Bunjie".

My son had always wanted one of these to hunt with. He loved it. Very powerful units and once sighted the unit was spot on accurate.

Yeah, I use piledrivers with buzzcut stingers. The piledrivers are 542 grain, and the buzzcuts are 100-150(I have buzzcuts of each weight) grain and fixed blade. (I have some lighter arrows, and some deadringer hyperstrikes I intend to experiment with as well) I set my crossbow up for Survival and SHTF, so being able to hit harder, while also increasing the reusability of my tackle is adventageous. I take the same crossbow hunting as well.

I shoot around 480 grain with single bevel broadheads and my average track now is 40 yards and thats even going through shoulder joints. Now when I was hunting light and with mechanicals and even fixed blades, I was tracking 100+ yards, and couldn't take alot of shots ethically. Shooting a little on the heavy side kills much faster and is by far more ethical to take an animal with. My opinion

Rich every time I watch one of your videos it makes me want to get into crossbows. Keep up the educational videos 👍👍👍

I am at the end. This was a SOLID explanation and I cannot argue with you. Why? .... Because you are right. :) As long as the bow can take it.

My first crossbow had similar arrow speeds to Bungie and I too used mechanicals. My new crossbow speed was too fast for my mechanicals as they frequently opened during flight and flew erratic. Very aggregating. Switched to a smaller diameter fixed broadhead and that was reasonably accurate. There is my 2 cents. Really enjoy your videos!!!

This is a great perspective. As someone who hunts with both crossbow and compound, I would say that when hunting with a compound it is best to shoot a heavier arrow. With most crossbows I don't think it's particularly helpful to shoot an extremely heavy arrow. With my set up I am shooting a 420 to425 grain arrow and am still getting 390 fps per second. That just generates a tremendous amount of kinetic energy. For example, last year I killed a buck that weighed about 180 pounds and was perhaps no more than twenty yards away. The arrow blew through the deer and I found it embedded about six inches deep in a log. I couldn't pull it out. With today's crossbows you just don't need a heavy arrow. I also use Rage Hypodermic broadheads and they fly like darts.

I just got a crossbow and I love that I can use my foot to help with the draw back. I’m not strong enough to draw a regular bow, thank you for all you share. I feel intimidated when I ask questions, I guess because I’m a woman.

Recently came across your RU-vid videos and subscribed to your channel. Thanks for the great info! Have been a hunter for 25-30 years, but just started with Crossbow this year. Like that you use an Excalibur X-bow as that is what I settled on as well (G340) - not a knock on any other brands before the mob pile on - I just appreciate the simplicity of the recurve vs. cams and not having to take it to the archery shop to get tuned/adjusted. I’ve settled on a slightly heavier arrow setup 431.8 gr (total with a 150 gr fixed blade Boltcutter BH) vs. the Excalibur “stock” arrow weight of 350 gr. Again, just prefer the additional kinetic energy and stability that combo brings and simplicity of the fixed blade. Lastly - yeah, new arrows can get expensive. Most of the newer Excalibur arrows are made by Black Eagle - a company out of Georgia. You can order direct from Black Eagle and get mostly “custom” arrows (insert, length, nock, etc.) for a lot less $$. I got 6 arrows from Black Eagle for the same price of 3 Excalibur/Black Eagle arrows direct from Excalibur or at Cabelas. Good luck out there this Fall. I’m back in the stand this Friday for my second trip out with a crossbow this season!

The traditional archers I have hung out with since the 70s were always adamant about heavy arrow weight, and it made sense. They basically had a slow moving string, the heavier the arrow was, the more energy it would pick up from the string. Back then tree stands were just starting to figure into archery, and downward shots were felt to need all the energy you could get. Today, some of these guys are the greatest archery hunters to have walked the earth in the modern archery mode. They know what they can, and can't get away with. What are they doing? Well some are in their 80s, and they can only manage 30 lbs bows, and 300 grain arrows, doing maybe 150-160 fps. They put down every deer that makes the mistake of walking down their trail. That oldster setup is one of those "what driver does Tiger Woods use" questions, not a recommendation for the rest of us. Do 60 years hunting with a longbow, and we can talk about it. However a setup that shoots a 400 grain arrow, out of a 40 pound bow, is something a lot of strapping young archers have adopted, when I started we all wanted a 70 pound bow, and a 550 grain arrow... So if you are cruising a 600 grain arrow at 300+ fps. Or a 400 grain arrow at 500 fps, there isn't really an issue at either end of that spectrum (issues around scopes duly noted). That doesn't mean they aren't fun to play with.

Just got into this mate! In the country side in Europe. Thanks for all the videos and work, helps us out a lot and keep em coming

Thank you D B B. I totally agree with all your comments. I prefer using a fixed BH. If it is not broke , don't fix it. Thank you again and good luck in your deer hunting adventures.

I love your videos finely someone talking and teaching about crossbows. Most people talk bad about them . Thank you keep them coming.

Like the video. Can't agree with you more. Ain't broke, don't fix it!

Decades before the new and modern trend recommending to use heavier bolts I just used what came with my Horton Hunter express SL back in the 90's. Easton xx75 super lite bolts with 100 grain rocky mountain gator 100's with the original chisel tip design. They blew through every deer, coyote, and black bear I ever shot unless the opposite side leg or backbone was hit. I always limedy shots to 30 yards or under. Only 2 shots were farther.. a coyote at 40 yards and a doe close to 75 yards. Pass throughs through both and died in sight by the time I counted to three. I weighed and chronographed some of my orignal bolts the other day. They weighed as light as 380 grains with the orinal gators and up to 404 grains. I shot a 390 grain total weight bolt through it at 295 fps. The lightest 380 grain bolt I still have harvested 5 deer the last season I used it. Kept Cleaning it off and using it. Still straight as straight can get! Never noticed any penatration difference between the 20 grain variance on deer. Can tell you the lighter 380 grain bolt shot ALOT tighter groups vs the 400/403 grain xx75 2216's. When the gators were discontinued I tried a few expandable free floating blade broadheads with locking in place blade designs. Tried the rages and grim reaper whitetail specials. When the rages would open they would defect and not exit. If they didn't expand the heads would exit in a straight line pass through. The grim reapers would not exit and also defected inside deer. Also had them open in flight at 287 fps. Imo I blame lack of a pass through on shot placement and broadhead design vs blaming not getting a pass through on lack of energy. I've blown through many deer with expandables using a 66 pound compound and extremely light ACC arrows. Also using an overdrawn back in the 90's with extremely light and short aluminum arrows. IMO the reason heavier bolts are getting popular is because of the majoriry of the more modern expandable broadheads that lock blades when deployed and also forward blade deploying designs that need and require WAY more weight and energy to get a pass through. Imo that's why those type of broad heads also bend and brake blades. They got pushed with super fast crossbows with way more energy then needed for a deer. The weakest link fails...the blades.. Way less resistance is needed to get a rear deploying free floating head through a deer or bear. Imo the biggest reason people are switching to heavier bolts is because imo they are trying to shoot farther at deer with their xbows...which I dont make it a common practice. Thirty yards is about my max distance 99.9% of the time. I want to feel like I outsmarted and "hunted" my trophy animal. That to me would be the only reason to goto a heavier bolt. I'd also want a heavier bolt for hogs.

Watching again after 9 months. I am having a running debate on a large crossbow forum about this subject. It basically has come down to everyone on the light side having only 1 truth and that is that the trajectory gap is less with the lighter arrow. They dont want to even get into the fact that to get that one upside, you have to reduce 5 factors of positivism which comes with a heavier arrow. While this debate will likely go on for a very long time (as most are deer hunting only) the facts will never change. There are more upsides with a heavier arrow than there are with a lighter arrow. :D

I use 400gr arrows with 125gr mechanicals with my scorpyd. Shot a button buck head on at 20 yards and it zipped through him lengthwise and ended up 2" in the ground behind him.

I'm glad you did this video. Truth be told, my largest animal, a 550lb hog, was shot with a 400 grain Spitfire tipped arrow clocking in at 396fps. The arrow did not pass through, but shattered the offside leg bone. The shot was 35 yds. The pig made it 15ft. Factory arrow. Broadhead acquired from Ebay. For the majority of my crossbow hunting career, it was the 400gr+Spitfire formula. I got my Excal and went heavy and fixed, which was fine because the bow was slow enough for good broadhead flight. Now, having converted over to TenPoint, using a fixed head is not possible, not unless I want to break the bank trying to have custom 700+ grain arrows built. I just don't want to do that, and for the vast majority of hunters out there, it's just a waste if time.

My Crossbow is 185lbs at 370fps, so my arrows need to be heavy, plus I'm going to hunt Moose as well as deer. I'm a fellow Pennsylvanian in Dauphine County.

I just bought my first used crossbow. I know nothing about them. But bullets are getting hard to find at the moment. I really look forward to learning all about it. Good vid thank you for taking the time to make it.

Stopping again to mention your point about distance and shot selection. Yo are 100% on point and nobody has said it better...although many have said the same. It isnt about speed. It is about reaction time (for the animal - worst case) and the bow speed.

I'm going with fixed broadheads for 2021 archery season with my new Tenpoint Titan M1 crossbow. Great video.

A couple of observations. Not everyone uses a “traditional” multi marked reticle scope (for different yardage distances). I have used an HHA speed dial with a Leupold VX-R 3x9x50 Firedot scope . I often hunt from ground blinds. Unfortunately it gets darker earlier inside the blind. I can see better through this scope than I can with my naked eye. I also have the correct yardage tape # on the dial. All you need to do is know the distance. Then turn the dial to that number. Accurate to the yard. Also when shooting super fast crossbows heavier arrows are essential to lessen limb/cam damage.

so if you shoot a 100gr expanding broad head can you dial in your bow in with a target point? does that translate over pretty well?

My philosophy on this is that I want as fast an arrow as possible so the deer doesn't move before the arrow gets there. This means as light as possible without sacrificing accuracy within the intended range and without damaging my bow. With my Burner 415, I just stuck with the factory KI arrows and 100 grain tips for a total of 370 grains. Not the highest quality arrows but they will achieve the full 415+ fps and I'm getting full pass through on quartering shots. At 40 yards I can't aim at the same spot on the target twice for fear of Robin Hooding them. Very tight 1-2 inch groups within hunting range. At 70 yards, way outside my range for whitetail, I'm still shooting 4-inch groups. Not ever going to take a hunting shot that far, but I would still consider that to be acceptable accuracy. If only the deer would stand still long enough to do it.

I keep using what I have for 3 years. Cant change a thing or ill be all screwed up. Lol Great video Rich!

Every person I have met ot listened to that used a rage broadhead loves them until they don't. What I mean by this is the results of a arrow weight and speed combo adequate for consistent pass through shots with a rage broadhead produce fantastic results. In most cases for years until.... The blades break off on impact with a hard bone strike. Several die hard rage people i know very well personally have had this scenario happen and they no longer use rage products. Every instance involved heavy bone strikes and either adequate penetration or complete pass through shots resulting in lost animals or in one case a recovery days later. But in every case mentioned both blades deployed but were sheared off which pretty much equaled a pratice/feild point wound channel. Just my two cents.

Both of your videos are filled with good information. Especially like someone like me just getting into crossbow hunting.

I use the bloodsport witness arrows wt 325gr and then top with 100gr broadhead for 425gr total myself

I love it life is too short to tune fixed blade broadheads, I agree 100%

I agree if it works well why change it! I like my setup and it is working great I did change to a hybrid broadhead as suggested by the bear outfitter I used he suggested I try the Muzzy Trocar HBX in 125 gr for my Excalibur which usually uses 150 gr the Muzzy is a four blade cutting broadhead two fixed blades at one inch cut and two mechanical blades that cut at 2 5/8 inches with none of the blades are spring loaded so basically no release failure in flight! But this is what I like and will keep liking for sometime I think lol

Hi Rich, I found this channel last fall while I was on the market for a crossbow your videos were extremely helpful for me to choose the right crossbow for me and keep it maintained in top shape I settled on a whitetail hunter 2, victory bolts with brass inserts and muzzy trocar hbx hybrid broadheads, that set up can hit a tennis ball every time at 45 yards.

In my experience (a lot!) You can tune an out of spine arrow set (but of heavier FOC) as well as a tighter spine arrow set (with lower FOC) to a same degree. That said... With all being equal .... you should not proceed in detriment to the gap between yardages for the sake of anything other than the bows longevity.

Only one point of contention and it a very minor one. At 35 yards your point of aim is not midway between the 30 and 40 yards dots on the scope. The curve is logarithmic. Depending on all factors the correct point of aim is off center toward the 40 yard dot. At more extreme ranges the affect becomes more pronounced. I don't shoot past 40 yards but for target shooting it is a factor.

I FOLLOW THE MANUFACTURER RECOMMENDATIONS ON BOLTS AND BROADHEADS FOR MY EXCALIBUR THOUGH NOT NECESSARILY THE EXCALIBUR BRAND BROADHEADS

Im from Pennsylvania too I love it here I live in ambridge pa

I ditched carbon shafts from the beginning when I bought my first Excalibur Equinox and now my Excalibur Matrix 355 crossbows. I have great success with Easton 2219 aluminum shafts with my 1981 Bear BrownBear round wheel compound bow, so using these same shaft for crossbows seemed fitting. I shoot 18" Easton 2219 aluminum shafts with standard aluminum inserts with 170 grain broadheads. My total weight is 470 grains at 305 FPS out of my Excalibur Matrix 355 crossbow.

Man I have a almost 30 year old Horton Dakota SL I bought off my father in law. Used two seasons then my limbs snapped. Went to academy and bought me a new one. Well first shot the string exploded. Took it back went to Bass pro bought another shot it one day with the bolts it came with then that string snapped. That the major failures in a week I'm lucky I have a face. Got a new fixing to try it.

I only disagree with the price of heavier arrows. I went up to Easton's XX75 Magnums(aluminum), and I LOVE them. Complete passthrews since. They were $5 apiece, w/60 grn inserts+ 100 gn head weighed 498-502. And I use mechanicals. Practicing w/my G5 Montecs, they were all high right. Now, I do use Toxics, but they fly true.

Read some articles about using heavier bolts to make your high powered crossbow limbs last longer,, supposedly more resistance on the string = less resistance and vibrations on limbs= lasting longer. This doesn't pertain to you bungee man, with your excalibur invincible limbs.

Thank you for the video Rich you always bring up different points of view that’s great. I don’t use mechanicals, have you ever had deflections as the Broadhead goes through the deer? What I mean is hitting the deer and the shot not going straight through to the other side but rather getting deflected in any number of direction? Do your mechanical broadheads or others lock in place so the blade does not swivel upon hitting something hard i.e. bone, rib. Again I have never use mechanicals but when the entry or the exit hole is wider than your Broadhead something is going on that might not happen as often on a fixed broadhead. Out of all the deer you shot with mechanicals have you had the deflections happened to your Arrow flight. Good luck shopping for your new crossbow. I’m looking forward to see what you’re going to get. I have my eyes set on the 360 assassin if I replace my vortex 330.Have a great day Rich.

I agree have a new RM405 factory bolts 20"CE pile driver 442 grain w/ 100 gr point included. Not happy with the carbon express pile driver at all.

Alot of the newer xbows r breaking limbs hence the heavier bolt recommend cause the bolts are too light that comes with them I have a ki fierce 405 and even the manufacturer when I called said use a heavier bolt. Speed sells but the lighter bolts that come with the xbow r too light and it's like dry fireing your bow when fire them so I go heavy 460 grain bolt including the 100 tip.

I use a Morrell yellowjacket target, from Walmart with no problem with stopping the bolts, also I use the black eagle 16" .001 bolts out of my micro 355

My son bought a killer instinct 405. The limbs cracked pretty bad at the 20 shot mark with the stock ultralight arrows. They replaced them under warranty. Manufacturers want the highest speed 2 advertise for their bows. He switched 2 piledrivers and no more problems. Cheers!

I stepped up to a 350 grain arrow with a 150 grain head and am super happy with that, not super impressed with Sevr 150’s however, going to 150 Rage next year.

Appreciate your videos. Unfortunately im late to the game with a crossbow. But a your videos and passion for it, make it look soooo fun and challenging that it inspired me to buy one a few weeks ago!!! Thanks for getting me up to speed on all the necessities.

Lots of great information as always Rich! I hope I’m not trying to fix what’s not broken with my new heaviest arrow combo the Bloodsport Witness and 125 GR RAGE Hypodermic Extreme! But we shall soon see! 🎯🦌

Sound quality is nice on this video, no echo The big room helps

Your reasoning is very sound. Thanks for sharing!

I shot three arrows next to each other on a bottle cap at 60meters/65 yards. With my 10 year old Excalibur Exocet and stock 20 inch Firebolt Arrows. Precise enough, if you ask me.

Love the content! When is the Bungie Jr. channel starting?!

This is so confusing. My Blackhawk 360 has a minimum weight of 450 grains but all it came with are 400 grain arrows (tip included). Can’t decide if I ought to hunt with them or buy new ones.

You sure are good about talking about crossbows. Thanks for sharing.

I USE REGULAR 20 INCH CROSSBOW BOLTS , REGULAR INSERT BUT FOR HOGS I USE THE 150 GR. ANNIHILATOR BROAD HEAD AND FOR NON-ARMORED GAME THE GRIM REAPER FATAL STEEL 125 GR. MECHANICAL BROAD HEAD FOR DEER AND SUCH . I HAVE USED THE FATAL STEEL ON HOGS TOO BUT I SHOOT THEM IN THE THROAT AND SEVER EVERY THING FOR A GREAT BLOOD TRAIL IF YOU DONT HIT THE SPINE.

Yeah some good arguments. But I do not think heavy arrows should be called a trend. I have been shooting heavy arrows 500 grains and up for like 4 years already. And with all types of gear. From recurve bows to excalibur crossbows and bear and pse compounds. I shoot mostly heavy arrows. I agree time is needed to tune those heavier arrows on recurves and compounds. But on crossbows all you do is resight your crossbow to heavy arrows and it is gold. At least on excalibur crossbows. And I do use treeshark broadheads.

Thank you for the dead on info! I hope more people will study and experimenting with that information! Obviously everyone has their own setup and options and opinions including myself. But if you can’t listen learn and come to the “best “setup for your hunting….well I just don’t know what to say

Rich, man you forgot RULE ONE!!! It’s never enough. Archery shooters bow or crossbow you pick them are just like Golfers. Trying to get the perfect setup. Will spend every dime they have just to be a little faster, harder or cooler. Oh yes we all know one friend that knows all and always will tell you about there next best greatest setup!! Closing this topic are the Just if!! Boaters man has a 21 foot boat but he thinks if I had a 24 foot boat that’s what I really need. Fishermen and tackle!!! Oh boy (LURES HAS CAUGHT MORE FISHERMEN THAT LURES HAVE CAUGHT FISH). Thank God for them Because of them people have jobs and we see you doing your posts. I say as long as the people are happy then towitch there own. Take a child in the field keep are sport healthy and in the good light. Thanks Rich....

Would I like a crossbow 100 fps faster, it would be beneficial. A 100 grain heavier bolt definatly more momentum. I look at it like this, my older bow and stock firebolts in my deer hunting situation are going to arrive at the same destination as someone passing you in traffic a few hundred yards before the stop sign but you arrive just behind them.

It all depends on the yardage you'll be shooting at keep that in perspective formost and don't use mechanical.

I will say this about heavy arrows vs minimum weight recommended arrows Was sighting in my 13 year old Wicked Ridge crossbow first shots EVER Arrows with a 100grn FP weighed 400 and 435 grains At 20-30 yard shots fired from a LeadSled DFT into my DIY 24"Wx24"Dx 30"H layerd foam target that I used 24"×24" 1/2" thick foam weight lifting mats to make it compressed between 24×24" 3/4" plywood using X shaped 1-5/8 unistrut on top and bottom of the plywood compressed with 4 500lb ratcheting straps one at each corner as tight as I felt I could get them I chronographed the 400grn arrows at 311fps the 435grn at 303fps hardly smoking hot fast by today's xbow velocity standards At 20-30 yards both the 400's and 435's went in up to about the first 1/3rd of the fletchings ONLY way I could remove the arrows was by completely loosing the front two ratcheting straps to release the compression force otherwise absolutely no way on earth I'd have gotten them out At 40 yards tge arrows went in right up to the fletchings and I still had to loosen the straps Finally at only 50 and 60 yards was their a sufficient enough amount of arrow shaft protruding that I could bet my rubber arrow grabber on the shaft and STILL needed to loosen both front straps to avoid potentially damaging the fletchings My point being I have no doubt in my mind what so ever that if I was using a more modern crossbow shooting arrows at 360-375fps let alone OVER 400fps with just a 435 grain arrow any I shot into my foam target at 20-40 yards would've penitraited so deeply as the entire arrow would've disappeared into the target. I have two Excalibur crossbows enroute and I will ONLY be shooting FP tipped arrows into my huge box-O-rags target and I will have to but a solid block crossbow target to sight in with FBBH's as its a very poor idea to shoot FBBH's into a boxOrags and I know a FBBH tipped crossbow arrow will absolutely disappear into both my DIY layered fome targets I can not imagine on white tailed deer EVER needing more penitraition with a 410-435 grain arrow going 350-375fps let alone 400-490fps I will experiment with seeing if a 475 grain arrow will quiet down my crossbow significantly better than my 410 and 435 grain arrows but unless they do I will stick with 410 or 435 grain arrows choosing tge k e that is the most consistency accurate I do believe there is evidence to support the common belief of heavier arrows for crossbows with high FPS and High DW's will help to minimize wear and tear on your limbs and strings I just have never read any studies that support this theory but it does make sence

two great videos in a row..... subscribed

I'm honestly very guilty of never checking what the gpi is of the bolts I buy lmao I always go off of what reviews are saying for accuracy and consistency I've had really good luck with carbon express maxima blue streak and am shooting half in groups and yea blowing through targets is definitely an issue

I like 400gr for my setup,manufacture recommends 400 gr

I love all your videos they’re all good I shoot light and heavy depending on what I’m hunting birds I tend to shoot like except for turkeys but larger game heavy

*YES, for slow and heavy arrow I prefer FIXED BLADE BROADHEAD. I must take care to 'NOT CUT STRING', with those.*

Enjoyed both videos! I like to see both sides and then determine which way to go. 👍🏻

So overall great video. HOWEVER I will say that I do disagree with tuning issues on fixed blade heads. You can have tuning issues with ANY broadhead for ANY number of reasons but thing thing to remember is you must shoot what YOU are happy with. I KNOW that with my Excal G340 my 100gr Montec FIXED blade heads will hit dead on at 50 yards no question. I sighted in with my broadheads at 20 yards checked my speed 5 times with a chrono and got and average and set my speed ring. 0 issues out to 50 (that's as far as I can shoot on my range). Now that same Bolt/arrow does NOT like the NAP killzone broadheads after 40 yards out of my G340. My Dad wouldn't let me "borrow" one of his Rage Hypos lol so cant say one those and Thunder heads are ok but 2" lower then my Montec's. As long as the bolt construction is sold BH furrel isn't bent in any way and the insert is flush you "should" be ok tuning wise BUT you may fins the bolt or bow just doesn't like that setup for some reason. I have seen it before and probly will again lol. JUst trying to illustrate that tuning issues with broadheads can happen with any kind of head.

I use heavys all the time and every animal i shot was dead dead dead

O.K. .. here I come! LOL. First of all.. I have listened to the entire video. Excellent. I will parse my responses.

Haha his voice is very similar to the main character in the show The Blacklist

One thing to remember is that there is a huge difference between a multilayered multi-tissued target like an animal and a homogenous medium like your block targets are made of.

Another awesome video. I am getting ready for 09/11/21, which is the first day of bow season in GA.

Agreed on dont fix it BUT... Here is where the crossbow community divides between novelists and tenured. Speaking to Modern mind you ;) The newcomers and such prefer fast and then freak out when the system folds. The heavy crowd are who they are, due to Maintenance first and foremost....In my experience. Advantages for that weight are secondary. I mean... who needs 150 K.E and beyond? While it is nice and sometimes helpful (worst case scenario) it isnt for anyone who hunts close and takes serious shots. For ethical hunters....It's all about keeping it quiet and dead;y with minimal maintenance. Thats the top talk in the heavy community, when it comes to crossbows. IMO

I bought a crony so in the coming summer i want to take my new xbow and test the speed vs weight and then i want to test the penetration vs speed and hope to find something in the middle of slow and heavy and fast and light, as an arrow is more of a cutting weapon than energy transfer, i will lean to speed. There was a test my the military done in the 60s or 70s where the mechanicals were proven to be so important and so much better than fixed broadheads this became the militarys accepted rules. A rifle is an energy transfer weapon, and arrow is a fast cutting weapon. So i hope find a happy medium of speed vs weight leaning towards speed.

I'm brand new to crossbows, and have not yet watched "5 reasons you should use heavy arrows". But in my preliminary research most experts are saying shooting light arrows amounts to a "dry fire", which is the main cause of limb damage. Conversely shooting heavier arrows can reduce the chances of getting limb damage. For that reason alone I would use heavier arrows. Because from my understanding, 400+ FPS is not needed to take down a deer. To me the ideal setup would be a 400+ FPS xbow that has been detuned to 340 FPS

Hey Rich. Great video!! I'm curious...what speed is your bow shooting at with the 528 gr. arrows? Does the speed fit within the parameters of your speed ring on your scope? I realize that the speed rings aren't all that accurate. My Pheonix with a 413 gr. arrow chronoed at 287, but needed a speed ring setting of 300 for proper calibration.

Where can I buy your book I’m a new crossbow hunter and like all the info you have in your videos and curious about how much more I can learn

I didn't know Vince Vaughn was into crossbows and archery

I had an old Horton legend that would shoot heavy or light with just a bump up or down on my scope. Took many deer. Had a house fire and lost it. Got a new faster and lighter Ten Point and it HATES heavy arrows...cant find a sweet spot with them. So i went back to lighter and they shoot 1 inch groups at 50 yds consistently. And no problem with penetration.

This video answered my question.

I use tenpoint pro lite and pro elite with a 100grn 3 blade Magnus snuffer ss on red deer and fallow deer and get double lung pass throughs and pro elite with 2 blade kayuga 130grn on pigs and they don't get far , like you say if it works why change it

Interesting that the modern crossbow industry uses the word arrow for bolts

Hysterical! while your intro was playing... I WAS TYPING :) :) :) ... nevermind, I'll go back to watching....

What weight arrow to use with a carbon express crossbow for deer

Fully agree with both video's, I went to Black Eagle Zombie Slayers because I liked the packaging.

Agree with tuning issues, when you cant tune the bow..... Which is crazy hard with a crossbow ...If not impossible :D

I've always used the stock arrows that came with my bows..as I've stated before I use a 3 bladed WASP with a trocar chesil tip...I love shooting a flat arrow and my fire bolts and Diablo s do that...like you I have one arrow that's killed many deer just lucky I guess...they all are equipped with an lumenocks...when I shoot out to 50yds in the backyard my "light" arrows hump into the target with about an 18 inch drop and that's with my 380 Matrix shooting off my caldwell... A couple years ago I shot a big body buck in bad light quartering away maybe 20yds because of the light I don't know what happened but the arrow broke the back leg went through the deer and went through the opposite shoulder...bad choice on me all around for shooting but the equipment worked great...

The biggest reason for using solid broadheads (when shooting really heavy) is that the M.O. tends to sheer the blades off expandables. I have done this in testing a LOT. Even my beloved Spitfires lost blades at 800 grains plus, when shot at 300 fps

Anyone ever use heavy arrows on turkey I'm kinda curious if it helps penetrate through feathers