Jose Taco I said the same thing & now I have made several picks and tensioner wrenches & can now unlock my house by picking the lock almost as fast as I can with the key. Plus, lock picking isn’t a bad skill to master. You never know when you’re going to have a brain fart and lock yourself out of your house.
Same thing with me. Im actually happy i found his channel. Having locked myself out of several things this overlooked skill could have saved some money. As others have said i could see this being a really addictive hobby like playing a guitar almost.
I leave mean comments I don’t know if this is the same lock. This one is the 37/80 and the one he said that was the 37rk/80. Now I have no idea if they are the same locks or not, maybe someone could answer that question.
2023 here, he is now in prison for picking the nuclear vaults at the pentagon. He made it but was dissatisfied with his timings on picking the vaults open, and went for a second round and got caught.
I used a version of this lock to protect my shed... the police turned up before the people got through the lock because... people in my garden with a saw and drill attacking the lock caused too much noise and attention. Sadly they got away... but my shed was still secure, even though I had to replace the lock. Nothing protects you from the professional locksmiths
I guess they really wanted to get into your shed? Did it have anything that visually identified it as a target? Anything visibly valuable that could be seen through windows? Because otherwise surely a lock as beefy as this one would deter thieves unless they were really determined to steal something that they knew existed.
Joe Abus changed the design multiple times, so I think you can‘t really tell from the outside. However the keys are different (pronounced taper towards the very end, more cuts since there are more disks, one with LED light) and the new variant comes with a code card that says something like Plus (tm) on it.
mrk vdr your intuitive reaction is what sells high security locks and drives the technology race. however, locks are made by people, therefore people can open them. "the race" is where insurance companies, lock experts, thieves, consumers etc. find meaning. the race will never end so long as there are competing parties. so, without starting to talk about communism, I will end my comment here.
The spacers are really important for the functioning of the lock. The spacers is notched to have them be stationary in the core. The aim of the spacers is to prevent a adjacent disc to rotate by friction (or goo in the lock gumming it up) when you turn the key, because that would make it impossible to open the lock. The spacers also are a bit springy, to avoid the core rattling, so the discs are under lateral spring tension.
The 8th disc is a butterfly disc. Newer cores also have a butterfly at the first position. These discs prevent tensioning because they can be turned one step too far and then block the sidebar. To circumvent this, one has do tensioning on the second disc from the front or the back. But then there's still the problem that the disc is on the wrong position when used to tension. I would love to see you pick an newer version. The Abus 88/50 or 89/50 can be bought cheap on ebay and also have a removable core. It would be also great to hear something about building detainer picks at home. Keep going with these interesting disc detainer locks!!!
So I got my 88/50. Butterfly rear and front...but annoyingly, the 2nd disc in is a 6 (I'd normally call this a 0) and drives the lock, so you can tension on that if you want. But I have picked it using rear tension and setting the butterfly disc last. This is pretty difficult. I have also picked it tensioning from the front, on the 2nd disc. I have also picked it from the front butterfly. If the 2nd disc were not a driving disc (and chances are, it won't be) then I have an easy way to still pick the lock. Thanks for the advice, this is a cool lock and was pretty cheap.
As I get deeper and deeper into the archive I continue to be amazed at what disc-detainer tools looked like before LPL and Bosnian Bill made their own!
Very awesome that you picked this. I would say there are only a handful of people in the world who could stand a chance of picking this open. You are one of them.
I've been looking at this lock for high value security. Many should know that any lock will do the job it is intended to do, but finding the right lock can be challenging. I like that this lock will buy some time, and may cause a burglar to move on to an easier target. Nothing is totally secure. A high value lock is useless if the burglar has the time and another part of the structure is weaker such as a wall. A $100.00 lock will not secure on a $20.00 harsp with a large window around the corner.
i'm super impressed with disc detainer locks, i think the mechanism is really elegant, and how they function together is very impressive, and quite an engineering feat to make sure all the discs line up just right with a key.... i also concour with the notion of if these parts are stamped by lower cost manufacturers, why don't they include false gates? my only reasonable conlustion is that the stamping process is too inacurate, and their dyes may not get to a finer depth, that any false gate, could simply act as a secondary gate, making it even easier to pick....
Remember, the video's are presented by a true EXPERT on the craft of lock picking! Not one "Crook" in a thousand is ever going to be able to duplicate his "Performance". If that on in a thousand "Crook" gets into my home, after sunset? It's going to be a very bad day; For him! Great demonstration! I enjoy all these videos!
I really enjoy your videos. Have you seen aVe's channel? He takes apart various tools and gizmos and analyzes them the way do locks. He typically says "FOCUS YOU FUCK" to his camera whereas you said 'Come on, focus for me". You're his quieter, more mellow counterpart.
Almost exactly like Finnish Abloy Classic. Fine picking anyway. I have re-coded many Abloy locks and it is real fun to do. Almost all the door locks in Finland are Abloy branded.
+LockpickingLawyer To my knowledge, in the new series, the tensioning disc can be any, not necessarily the one in the back. You would have to either use a 3-part tool or switch the prong with wich you tensions while picking.
@LockPickingLawyer no videos on how to gut an 37/55 like the Sea & Snow model on RU-vid yet. So why not be the first. There are no screw under the shackle to hold the bottom plate and no obvious way to open it for a core swap.
I was about to get this one because in the “top 10 heaviest and baddest” video you made you said the core of this one was some of the toughest ever to be picked and that it was beyond your abilities. That didn’t last for long ...
Hi im a construction guy and just bought a box truck. Do you think that a padlock would be a good choice ? I was thinking about ABUS 83/80 i hope its going to fit. Or i have to buy some Heavy Duty Rolling Door Lock? . I would appreciate your professional opinion. Btw great videos!
@@metamorphicorder Be sure the PUCK orientation is DOWNWARD, and mounted such that little more than room to get the key in is available. Prevent attack of the core. Also, ABUS has a nice HASP that has an integrated disc type lock, so nothing to drop in the the snow and mud. AMERICAN has a puck hasp that you can bolt a hardened steel American A2010 Padlock to. This prevents dropping the heavy puck onto your foot.
@@citylockapolytechnikeyllcc7936 yep or you can stop by a machining shop at just before close with a six pack and have them braze or weld a leash on your locks and hasp assembly. Or pay them. Whichever. Ifn you cant do thay yourself
What disc detainer pick is this LPL. Amazing video! My only friendly advice on future videos is be sure to mention what the equipment is that you're using to pick the lock! Excellent work friend!
You could often use 1 ford key to open another ford with a bit of wiggling. When at uni my friends and I used my cortina key to "steal" a girls escort and hide it in our garage. We literally had the door open in about 2 seconds and had it started just as quick. The girl of course didn't see the funny side of our joke. She burst into tears thinking her car had been stolen. :-D
"you simply couldn’t produce enough" i can bet you can use one screw to open it like in case of this padlock ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Br0yR9eFAh8.html its good quality padlock it was much easier with cheap DeFort...
Bialy, the Abus in this video has a hardened steel anti-drill disc at the front of the core. No hand turned (or even electrically driven) screw stands a chance against it, as the anti-drill disc is harder than any screw.
It would be interesting for RU-vidrs to include the video's publication date in its title, since RU-vid hasn't shown it for a long time. Especially in videos like this where it is interesting to have a time reference. Thanks. Greetings.
I use one of these with a security chain to lock my Surly Bill trailer when I'm towing it, using an Abus Granit Extreme u-lock for my e-bike. Crazy solid lock. As an amusing bonus, the chain and lock tend to intimidate passersby while you lock up or unlock.
So it took you two and half minutes, and you are one of the best. I assume the lock ist picking resistant. As I use two locks on my bike with the X Plus-Core, it won't be stolen by picking regarding the 3 minutes rule.
LPL is the 2019 worlds best lock picker and has certification to prove it. Expert lock pickers and good to average lock pickers really have a hard time picking this lock. It's not good if they are at it for like 20 minutes, a lock has to be picked quick, a 5-minute time frame is really maximum! I have one of these expensive locks and am not pissed at all by this video. LPL is the worlds best, so don't fret.😋💨😀
I use that lock to secure my generator house. Question? Have you picked any Medeco locks? I’m curious? I don’t see any attempts on your channel? I have three Medeco deadbolts at my house. Unfortunately I can’t find any local locksmiths willing to install the last two deadbolts for my house? I live in Connecticut. Could you recommend a locksmith in CT. that would be interested in installing Medeco deadbolts?
CONGRATS!!!!! I remember I wanted to send you a 20/80 Diskus and you said you couldn't pick it. Now, about that, there was one Disc Lock you couldn't do.... any plans for the clean sweep from the Disc Lock Series?
ganzonomy The old Abus plus core in this lock is very different from the new variants that are used today (in LPLs Diskus 20/70 also). Nowadays there is the Plus core and the X-Plus core. The 37 Granit series as well as some of the high end bike locks use the X-Plus core and locks such as the Diskus 20, 89 series brass padlocks and some medium security bike locks use the normal Plus core. Both cores tension from a random disk wich requires a specialized tool. And even if you have got that tool they are very, very difficult to pick. The normal Plus core has 6 (Abus 20/80) or 7 (89/50) disks, the X-Plus has 9 if I‘m not mistaken. Also the X-Plus appeares to can‘t tension unless the disks are lined up correctly wich would make it near impossible to pick but I‘m not sure about if and how that would work.
What if a lock manufacturer installed a vibrator that activated when a key or pick was inserted. Would this make a difference in a disk lock if they kept moving?
okay, what you are doing is really crazy specialism. Not the average joe kind of skills so to speak. Based upon your experience; whats your verdict on this lock? Is it good, or are there much better locks available to keep your motorcycle in your own posession? 😋
3 questions =) 1. Is there a way to tell between the old and new model before buying? 2. What do you think about the build material for the internals? 3. Which pick are you using? =)
Hi, awesome channel. I was wondering if I can ship an abus granite lock to you to open . Had shipped my lock to Abus team in Arizona hoping to rekey & get a set of keys. Turns out they could not open & shipping it back to me saying a locksmith can open it replace core & new keys, not same keys though. Any hope for my luck to open ? Thanks in advance
Great video! So awesome to see you pick this after seeing you once say it was beyond your ability. How would you say this compares to the Squire SS80CS in pick resistance as well as sturdiness against alternative entry methods (destructive, drilling, etc.)?
Actually a German gun-magazine tried it crack it by shooting at it... They gave up after a .308 after about 25 Meters couldn’t harm it Seriously. You may crack it with a .300 winmag or a .338LM but that’s a bit too much in my opinion. I’ve bought one of these locks after reading the test an I’m still very happy with it, this thing is massive an durable in its own dimension!
I´ve just opened an Hermex lock, wich is a little bit heavier, longer and bigger...i took me only 5 mins. to open it...but i know Abus is extremely hard to open because the false gates, despite your explanation (video) was very impressive, i guarantee you that if you wouldn´t know the keyway, you could´n open that easy (fast).
Hi, I've lost the keys to my Abus Granit U-Lock. I lost the owner's card probably 10 years ago... Do you know a mean for me to cut a new key anyway? Does key impressioning work on disc detainer locks?
LockPickingLawyer I'm a huge fan, and this is an amazing video. What Disk Detainer pick are you using here? It's not one that it looks like you've talked about?
Hi LPL. Although you have placed all the removed discs in order on your tray, how do you know which way up they go when putting them back? I mean each disc has two sides right? Not only that but each disc contains a rectangular slot which could be oriented in either of two positions. So, all in all, each disc could be replaced in any of four possible orientations. Am I correct here?
Great vid. After watching this video and your earlier Top 10 biggest and baddest padlock compilation, I've decided (99%) on getting this lock. Per the Abus website, the 37/80's "RK: cylinder can be re-keyed to match an existing ABUS-Plus key". I'd love to have one keyed alike with my many Abus + core bike locks, but I can't find any info on the re-keying process. Would you please explain or make a video demonstrating how to re-key this lock? Thanks.
I was just looking at this one on amazon to see about it. My concern is the rental truck's mechanism such that I can use this lock or one another Abus lock to secure the cargo.
I am still puzzled. I don't understand why some of the discs need to fully rotate and engage the stop? Is this protection from forcing? Also do you know how the Abus design differs from the Abloy Protec2?
I have this insurance lock but its 37/55 and was really confident i have beast lock and that no1 can steal my bike. After watching this im gona get paranoid again
Are the shoulders not hollow? The 70 certainly was and bolt cropped when the shoulders shattered. If they are hollow 14mm isn’t enough to stop bolt cutters.
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