7 NBA Players With Completely False Narratives About Their Careers 

def agree

Nah, trust me, if lebron went unguarded in that series we would have seen a quadruple double

@@ValdoMorais but since when did winning finals mvp solely be about guarding the other team's best player? I'll give it to u, he defended LeBron. But overall Curry was the better player in that series.

agree and in 18 you could argue he played better than kd in 3 of the 4 games.

@@ValdoMorais how? and would that had led to the cavs winning the series?

That’s what people don’t get! Lol o don’t wish injury on anyone but as a rocket fan last year I would’ve rather seen curry on the sideline than KD . Curry you can’t do anything when he gets hot . KD 30 is almost inevitable but it doesn’t affect the game like curry . We literally held curry to 0 in the first half and he finishes with 33 and puts us out on our home floor it’s ridiculous

Big facts Stephen curry is definitely scary

I got scarred senseless everytime curry was on the floor in games 5&6 last year. I thought the raptors wouldn’t be able to stop him. But pascal and kawhi just balled out. Thank god

Bad thing is he’s always hot and even if you put a hand in his face it’s still a high percentage shot

So much fax I’m a raps fan too every 3 pt shot from steph last year my body would grow another leg.

For real Shaq could have been so much better than he was and he was great. He could be considered the goat of he took care of his body

Otis Michael... if he had just 70 percent of Kobe’s work ethic.... they’d of gotten at least 5 together!

Thats underachieving

I mean Shaq was the type of dude where if he shot 70% from the line, he’s the greatest player in NBA history. But because he shot around 50 his numbers will forever drag behind Wilt and Russel and Kareem.

Ya'll need to look up the the definition of underachieve

People really be forgetting DRose is the YOUNGEST MVP EVER !! THE YOUNGEST MVP EVER !!! No one has achieved that, not MJ not Lebron not Kobe not nobody !

AI actually made it to the Finals. D Rose choked in the ECF last two games

@@geordiejones5618 and we can mention the fact that D rose played the best team in the league and AI played in the weak ass eat but not saying the 01 bucks weren’t good

@@geordiejones5618 he didn't choke at all, they threw the whole team at him. Keep in mind he was only 22 years old and they had to do that to him already. Not to mention it was a team with prime bron, wade, and bosh.

@Fred Anthony exactly. Drop them fax for him.

@Josh derp Curry's 5 year stretch from 2014-2019 is one of the most accomplished and illustrious of any player in history and he should have one or even two finals MVPs on top of that

@1- 20 - 7 LG fax

LOL if KD didn’t join them, rockets will beat them or okc if kd stayed

Ricardo Sines as an okc fan i would say no. Okc didn’t show any signs if getting kd help. Kd had amazing slashing ability and they never sorrounded him with shooters. He was usally the only great shooter when he was on offense with okc. And he got tired of him getting no help and being double teamed cause the 2nd best player on the team shoots 32% from the feild

Ricardo Sines kd was injured against rockets yet curry still owned them in 6 games in 2019? If they would’ve beat them in 2018 without kd then y didn’t they win in 2019? And kd blew a 3-1 lead to them so stop🤦‍♂️

Seeing Drexler vs Jordan 2 would’ve been fun

The rockets would of won

I think they split 1-1. I think the second Rockets team with Clyde who got hot during the end of the season going into the playoffs beat the Bulls.

Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF Probably not.

Henny Lopez The ‘96 Bulls?

Hes the most talented player in history and you could make a case that hes not a ton 10 all time player. For me its disappointing when a player underachieves. You can say the same thing about Lebron just I wouldn't say Lebron is lazy just weak mentally.

@@danielclark6912 But LeBron's career isn't over yet and 4 of his finals losses are not even his fault he did as much as his could. 2007 I mean come on now LeBron was no way in hell beating the Spurs with just him, 2015 Love and Kyrie were injured and he performed great, 2017 the warriors had KD and the team had injuries again and LeBron once again played great, 2018 again they had KD and it was just LeBron and he showed out and got swept. He obviously has lost and you can't change that but you can't blame LeBron when in 4 out of his 6 finals losses he was the best player on the court but still lost because his teams were undermanned compared the his opponent

@@gotworc did lebron play in any of his finals appearances?

You can still be successful asf and still underachieved, that's how talented that man is. Guy is a freak of nature, 7'1", 300lbs monster that can move that well. If he just had take care of his body, he could have won more rings. Plus he's lazy asf too, that's the main reason why he and Kobe parted ways.

I can pass well, he’s just not a superstar passer but he doesn’t probably put full effort on defense because he runs around on offense

@@ryanfarr9283 I would say he's a great passer. Honestly if you watch the games he makes really stunning passes and i'm convinced if he played on ball he would established as a top 5 passer in the league but he's so much more effective without the ball.

Red Rum u probably don’t watch basketball

duck boy and you do?

@Isaiah Rashid and lost

That's NBA Facebook for you.

Steve ker the goat behind Patrick mcaw

jdhjdhdjdjd jdjdhjdjdjdjdb yea Patrick mcaw is a close second

Yeah but i bet that lebron better than mj no cap

Bill Russell?

Which yr sir I check it is it 94

In '94, Hakeem won MVP, DPOY, and Finals MVP while posting at least 27-11-4 and 4 blocks in both the regular season and playoffs. Not to mention shooting 52% from the field as well.

Yeah

I cant believe they brushed off the rockets wins in the last dance probably because it conflicts with the narrative that jordan never lost in the 90s during his prime rockets 2 pistons 1 spurs 1 if the rockets hadn’t won jordan wouldn’t have been able to continue his dominant finals streak from 93, after a hiatus he conveniently got eliminated creating excuses for the gap allowing for a no lose narrative lebron went to the finals 8 years in a row people don’t understand that the playoffs can change the course of the finals and many times upsets happen, lebron willed his team to the finals year after year despite these odds he upset the better team jordan was never asked to do this because he was always the favorite to win its not easy to not be the favorite and you might lose to the favorite i know the goat is always going to mike because he never lost but people like lebron and steve nash never get credit for the way they run the offense and make their team better they only get attention for their shortcomings we shouldn’t be so focused on story and narrative but more on who games better and for me it’s redundant and obvious Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the goat he put the ball through the hoop more than anybody in basketball history the game is about getting buckets and he got the most for the longest time team ball is variable and winning as a team isn’t easy but individually he has succeeded the most

@@alemonster801 Longevity doesn't make you the goat.

He is Zion before Zion

Who is zion? He is legend? Champion? Mvp?

@@andeng2425 he means how zion COULD turn out to be

Look At Curry Man or akumpo

Yes but some he didnt deserve it was just fan voting, but i get your point

Zaw33mc 2 I Honestly anticipated him being on the list.

I also wanted West but how is Bill Russell not in there at least he got mentioned once

Wasn’t gonna bring anything when it came yo offense besides rebounding tho honestly

Ikr

exept for zaza

agreed

It makes it interesting tbh

@ every lebron hater

I fvcks with Swishout but gotta disagree with him on this one.

Lunchbox Locks lmaooo

TJae Speaks why is dat

@@z0tl410 especially the drose one. The rest are actually fine. I dont think lebron was robbed but their was obvious voter fatigue

Didnt he also have an unreal game 5 or game 7 vs okc in 2016?

@@itsjayy2189 also game 5 in 2015 finals. The whole 2019 wcf, game 6 semi finals 2019, game 5,6 and 7 vs okc 2016. 2019 finals

Much more a matter of timing and narratives Kobe and Shaq didn't have a good timing Wade won none for example Mvp is much related to team winning record

The years Nash won, Kobe didn't really deserve it with a low seed. Dirk, KG and LeBron all had better claims than Kobe (I think Dirk definitely should've won '06). Also if you say MVP shouldn't be about wins and should be about numbers, well the year Kobe won Chris Paul had better numbers and had great team success too. Shaq and Kobe cancelled each other out. A shame but it is what it is. Kobe didn't deserve more than one all things considered, but I will argue that Nash only really deserved 1 too.

@@shepardice3775 narratives Nash didn't suffer vote fatigue in the back to back thanks to the suns injuries while keeping a very good record And I also guess on some degree there must be some business to it I mean probably it was a good look on the league to boost Nash popularity and fame I think this kind of thought process do really happen and have impact in many NBA stuff

Don't Forget when Tim Duncan won two consecutive and then Garnett in 2003.Both Shaq and Kobe were balling at that time, winning chips, but you can't compete with productiveness of all time great powerforwards.When dude averages 25+ points 10+ rebounds, 5+ assists, 2 blocks, and leads team to great record, it's hard not to call him most valuable player...

In 05 the Argument for Nash over Shaq was Very Clear Both Steve and Shaw had Just Joined new Teams the Difference was the Sun's were Horrible last year and in 05 they won 33 Games more with very few changes besides Nash

for sure, but i dont get how his career can be considered a disappointment

@SWISHOUT to me it was disappointing. He could of been the goat. To only make 3 all NBA defensive teams for being how dominant he was is wild. He could of lasted longer than he did.

CA Analysis imagine if he had lebrons mentality of staying in shape and taking care of his body he could’ve easily been the goat but top 15 player of all time is still pretty damn good if you ask me

@@SWISHOUT it was doh

He has 4 rings but could have achieved so much more. Look at Kobe’s career, 5 rings, all the accolades and (bar the injury) you can’t say he didn’t give everything he could to win in his career

They lies. Rose won cuz he was the best story. Voter fatigue.

@@BreadVanVleet lol thank you

Yeah nobody brings up the shot Steve Kerr hit to save that game 7 Pacers series but anytime someone hits a big shot on LeBron's team then everyone says they saved his career. If Kerr misses that shot then MJ likely has one less ring but nobody ever brings that up. Plus Paxson hit some big shots during their first run as well.

Himura82 the two situations aren’t the same what wasn’t mentioned in this video was lebron committed 3-4 turnovers in the final minutes of game 6 and missed the game tying 3 had ray Allen not hit that shot and they lost that series coming off of that Dallas series in 2011 lebrons legacy would’ve taken a huge hit.

@@dandreclay8821 well lebron also brought them back into the game and he hit the 3 to make it 92-95. He scored 16 points and assisted 6 other points. So he was responsibke for 22/30 pointsb

Himura82 it’s not really anyone bringing that up tho besides media heads

It also reminds me of the Draymond Green excuse. I didn’t know he was suspended for all of the last three games

Hmm... Something to consider.. I looked at Giannis as a more refined Shawn Kemp..but i do see your point..

I think of Giannis as more of a David Robertson

Floyd avoided Oscar and Manny for years, people dont knock his greatness they mock his tactics, in a sport where it is honorable for champs people who dominate eras to clash few times during their primes.

When you say Floyd is head and shoulders above them, I understand a little. But he is really on par with manny pacquiao as we can see from the fight in pure boxing. The only reason Floyd won is because his boxing style is fully focused on counter attack so He will always win when counting hits. Although Floyd didn't get many powerful and clean hits, it was still a win for him as he will always have more hit than his opponent. No disrespect to him and I consider him the greatest defensive boxer of all time but it gets really boring to watch which might be the reason most boxing fans don't like Floyd in the slightest.

@@davidsantoso2291 If Manny vs Floyd happened in 2010 I think the result could've been different. Manny's boxing favors a younger boxer.

Y’all forget bout mister 90-0. He eventually lost but that’s because he was fighting way better fighters than Floyd lmao

Well he never said the numbers lied?

He just said numbers dont tell the whole story he never said numbers lie

Facts

All statements are oppinions here, nobody says shaq career suck people are saying he is the biggest what if, also in 90s we cant talk about records cause of expansion, and draft during that process those records are inflated. He is just going on vague reddit nephews oppinions that are really easy to dispute

Tim duncan is the only one of these GOAT conversation players to win a championship on his own, without another star 2002-2003 season, parker wasn't an all star yet, i think manu was a rookie, Robinson was a grandpa then, he had no star teammates and still beat the Kobe Shaq lakers in the playoffs best player in the 21st century IMO

Nobody disrespect Duncan he like Kawhi nobody disrespect him. Most disrespected players I see is Lebron, Malone, Rodman, and Curry people don't like change or people who stand out like a sore thumb or a guy who's to shiny

I'll add one more point : They came off the greatest regular seasons by a team in nba history, and regular season fatigue is a real thing. You can't expect your best player to ball out the whole season and continue the same in the postseason with a significant injury. But still curry showed out, in the conf. Finals and in the NBA finals to a lesser extent.

Excuses 2015 cavs had love and Kyrie out so it was lebron by himself plus draymond was back in game 7 quit crying

Joshua D. If that's the case, then cavs and warriors both win with disadvantages. Cavs in 2015 had two injured players. Warriors in 2016 had injured players too. They're equal now and I definitely understood the excuses.

They are so annoying when they beg for likes. I only give likes when they don't ask for them.

i felt exactly the opposite..i was about to leave a like and the dude just start crying...ouuu it took long time to make ..shut up

@@bloody_outlaw8000 I'd like to see you make an entertaining video I'll wait

I am so confused

I feel like his injury made people kind of pity him. Yeah he was an exciting and great player but people act like DRose before his injury was the Goat or some shit.

Lebron got robbed of mvp

Did the game has evolve we now have way more parity the before LeBron's competition is equal yo right now and the same all to jordan

jordan played a ton of greats in the finals lol including john stockton, karl malone, patrick ewing in arguably his prime yr, gary payton, etc.

@@lucashufner8890 read what I said. I never said he DIDN'T play good players, I said he DIDN'T play teams with that much HOF. All of LeBron's finals opposition's had at least two and most of them had at least three.

Tycko HasThat all of Lebrons finals? Lol. 2011 mavs wasn’t some super star team Dirk was old af, The 2020 heat team isn’t crazy either. 2012 finals the team were all babies except KD. Harden wasn’t even an all star yet. I think you are exaggerating lebrons teams he’s played in the finals. Spurs was an even match up with the heat. Only team that really was truly over powered was the KD warriors and the spurs in 2007 against his trash Cavs team. Which I’ll never hold those losses against lebron. Nobody was gonna beat the warriors with KD. I don’t think Jordan played anyone as hard as the KD warriors team, but I think jordan also played against harder teams than the 2011 mavs, 2012 okc, and 2020 heat too.

@@theflipper404 that’s right there is a best explanation that people or should I say bronsexuals should hear but they gon get butthurt for a reason when what you said was fax

Some of his numbers this year were better than his MVP year

The only reason that ray allen even was considered to have saved Lebron’s legacy was because Lebron kept them in that game.

Yeah this is a mid ass take my guy. maybe you should go watch another sport, bball ain’t for u

Terry Stump What about Lebron’s 2 turnovers in the last minute? They wouldn’t have been down if he doesn’t turn it over on back to back plays

Um no. Ray didn’t save him. He was his teammate. He did what he was supposed to do and played his role. Was he supposed to just stand there and be useless? Was lebron supposed to go 1vs5 and do everything himself? No because basketball is a team sport and they work together towards a common goal. Only casuals think he was saved.

So is dream

@@arizonaFIREent yeah hakeem has nothing on MJ, bulls wouldve won

CZ did you not just hear what he said? Hakeem was playing at the soft spot of the bulls defense, double teams were not Phil Jackson’s thing. They had good defenders and Hakeem would most definitely scare Michael a bit. He’s said that besides him Hakeem is the 2nd best in his mind. Hakeem and his rockets would win over mike, not all the time but they definitely had tools to beat Mike.

LOL rockets have winning record against the bulls during those championship run

Stephen Yoho true

That's real

Nah it’s more who’s the best player with the most wins that season and that’s a fact

Lol thank you

Okay, and? That doesn’t make Jordan’s competition any less good. The man knocked out two sixty win teams in the same postseason three separate times for Christ’s sake.

Smasher Basher we just saying compared to what Lebron had to go against in the finals bron definitely played better teams

William Turner lebron didn’t play very good competition in the playoffs before the finals

bird played with 4 hof's as did bll russell. dont blame players for having good teammates. thats some fake criticism. also stop with the 4 hof green aint a hof player. jordan go tot play with the best defenders in the league on his team in the 90s. magic played with by far the best center as did kobe.

Because KD averaged more ppg, rpg, bpg and better three point and shooting percentages

Brandon Burley 0.4 points - Durant 6 assists - Lebron 0.3 rebounds - Durant 2.7FG% - Lebron 3.23PT% - Durant You see how KD doesn’t run away with any stat like Lebron does while Lebron was a much superior defender

Boss But Lebron didn’t run away with any stat on D-Rose except for rebounds and fg%

Boss to each is own bro I see what you sayin tho

Brandon Burley I ain’t mention Drose