I like to imagine a burglar going to the lockpickinglawyer's house. He finds a safe hidden somewhere in the home then picks the lock only to find a bunch of locks inside.
Oh but it does work, just not on expensive thick shackles, a smaller cheaper padlock won't stand a chance, and yes, I've done it on several locks myself.
Using and applying knowledge you already know can do several things for you: 1. It will eliminate that method as an option to achieve your end result. Most of the time you don't know what will and won't work, especially as every *similar* situation is just that. Similar. It's not 100% the same 2. It can help you realise what could work instead. Either by trying a new method or using one that you know could also work, which links back to point 1. Of eliminating the methods 3.It allows you to learn for the future. Similarity comes on a scale. You can have A and B. They can share 1 thing in common or 5 things. So if they share 5 things and method 1 works on A to achieve the end result. Use method 1 on B because it has a higher chance of working than something which failed on A.
@Siedler Joe Vaulter: "OK John, how do we fix the water chip?" Me: "Well, you see there was this thing called VSauce and ..." From behind everybody: "MICHAEL HERE!!! " From the vents: "Water chips are fixable." From the water chip: "Or are they?"
Most home intruders actually don't care about making noise just like there isn't any point for them to _hide_ that an intrusion has occurred after they ransacked the master bedroom. Noise from tools is expected in residential areas. Every day someone is mowing the lawn, working on their car, or repairing their home. Most people I know like to keep their garage or workshop open while working, even at night. Which most career burglars make a point to break in while you are away rather than sleeping. The best defense to protecting your home is being close to your neighbors so that they make an attempt to contact you if they see suspicious activity.
"Robot arm!?" Are adjustable wrenches illegal in some places? Here, it's prolly hard to find some one who's unfamiliar with those. If that looks big, there are even bigger ones called "monkey wrenches" which can dwarf hatchets, but to be fair it's likely that a lot of people with internet access can go their whole lives without needing to use a monkey wrench.
If you're using a wrench or any tool and putting most of your strength into it, (or many repeated times, like a shovel) without gloves, you're asking for blood or blisters, or at least painful bruising. This is really just basic tool experience. New people get lazy about the gloves, those with experience learn to protect their hands. (Yes, usually _after_ the blood, blisters and bruises, lol)
I think the gloves are to reduce harm from pinching. When he's squeezing the wrenches together, if it suddenly gave and pinched the meat of his hand, that could cause injury.
5:45 "we as consumers of security products" Uhhh yeaah, that's definitely me, totally not just watching this for entertainment and have no knowledge of security equipment
Wtf is security equipm-?!... yyyyeaaa totally eat that stuff up. Had a sale at the security store a few weeks ago, I was in heaven... got me a couple blue ones
@@chucklebutt4470 but the green ones are like $0.37 cents more, I feel much more secure knowing they can be replaced easily... its not like anyone has access to these "wrenches" or whatever they are anyway.
dude those are nothing. could easily buy inch and a half and below from home depot, biggest he had was 1inch. i use much much bigger at work way too often
@@JohnnyBurns my dad has a 2 inch (I think it's 2 in) and it's big af. Ever since I found it, all I've thought about was how great it would be in a zombie apocalypse 😂😂
I’ve been watching your videos religiously for the last couple years, and although I don’t have any intention of becoming a locksmith in the future, the knowledge gained from this video actually did help me. At work, the lock on someone’s toolbox became seized up and unable to move anymore. Although the lock was a cheaper one, the shackle was nothing to sneeze at. Of course I saw somebody try using the original double wrench method, with little to no effect. ahowever due to the fact that I had watched this video, and remembered the knowledge gained from this video, I was able to open it within a matter of seconds. Now, I’m not exactly what you would call strong, but what took someone like myself mere seconds to complete with the new method, Couldn’t even be completed by somebody with far greater strength than I with the old method. It’s for reasons like this that I continue to watch your videos. Keep up the great content and great work.
I learned a rule similar to that but it's not as inspirational; with enough force something will always give. If you give me a square peg to put in a round hole, I'll be getting a larger hammer. When in doubt, brute force will figure it out
Was your teacher related to Archimedes (the old-time Greek math guy)? He said something to the effect: "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world."
Harbor Freight/Pittsburgh. They're very shiny but the metal is somewhat soft and they'll break. The Pittsburgh Pro line Made in Taiwan is better quality.
Im a machinist by trade, but Hardening steel does add cost to manufacturing, not directly because of having to harden the materials, but because most companies that are working on stream lining their production rely on speed and efficiency to make a bonus from their customer, taking the time to switch the machines over to CRS, changing tools, changing DoC and some of the speeds and feeds, it would take a lot more money to do that than to just produce the same material the machines are setup to. And on the topic of the machines hardening the material, that is false, you would have to running the machine above the recommended speed of the material dependent on the tooling, which would then make the finish come out burred or even out of flush, to add on top of that the material around the effected area machined would be brittle and easy to chipping and cracking.
It would still shatter. Upgrade pawls to the point they are not the failure point and the lamination would give out. Upgrade lamination and the (hard but brittle) shackle would snap.
@@MoraFermi I think something like S2 or S7 tool steel would survive all the abuse you could dish out. These are hard but extremely tough steels, high quality Allen wrenches are often made from S2. They certainly would fair in compression like the brass did in this application. (another machinist)
To be fair he only had to use 3 wrenches at a time during that one point because he didn't have a big (and also small) enough wrench to fit and he only used that adjusting wrench that one time because it didn't just break off like the other lock
Since I’ve found this channel I’ve bought and made sets of lock picks, practices with security pins on a bunch of different kinds of lock, got padlock shims, learned destructive entry methods and now finally... It’s primetime for crime time.
When i was in the navy, we opened master lock combo padlocks with the original two wrench method. occasionally someone would leave the ship and not take their lock, or forget a combination, or whatever. bolt cutters were a controlled item, so we would grab a couple wrenches and go at it. usually took a few tries to find the right size, but we always managed to break a lock by spreading the shackle apart enough that the locking lug broke or was yanked out. that said, i wish someone had thought of this, those locks were cheap and probably would have been much easier with this method.
Just discovered your channel, so kind of late to the game. That being said, neither of these methods are what we used in the Army when we lost keys. We would put the wrench size that fits on the bottom of the lock, and then the largest wrench you could fit in the shackle. Both wrenches would be side by side and squeeze them together. The force broke the shackle rather than pull it out of the body. Worked like a charm on the American 5200 series we used. Excellent content by the way
i like the part where he just yeets the keys to the SECURITY lock off to the side like "well these are going to be totally useless here in about 10 seconds"
Pretty sure he didn't want to ruin the progress he made; if he finished breaking the lock with the original method, then you possibly wouldn't be able to tell what originally allowed it to open.
@@straightwhiteman755 , sure you would. You could see that it was open, but in need of some extra bending, and the original method is great for just that.
More like match the security and cost of the lock to the application. I have a garden shed that due to settling, needs a long shackle in order to pass through what it needs to in order to effectively lock the door. It's a shed though, there are old gardening tools, some sprinkler repair parts, and weedkiller in there. The most expensive thing in the whole shed is the toolbox, and even it was a yardsale find. I lock the shed to keep the weather from forcing the door open and to keep curious kids out more than to protect the contents. I have pinned the lock to resist picking by novices to defeat kids watching youtube videos on picking locks, but I have no doubt that a professional locksmith or a skilled enthusiast could pick their way in. And this doesn't bother me because for what's inside it doesn't matter.
It is very important to share this kind of information to help everybody understand how locks can be attacked and what you can do against these approaches. If you watch until the end he gives a really good advice: Pick the right lock for the right purpose. When you have the right padlock it ideally fits tight and flat so that it can't be moved around, nothing fits between anything and you have to approach the keyhole in an uncomfortable way. The less of the lock is exposed the better.
I've used the "new" method for years. Amazing what a pair of 1 inch wrenches can accomplish when someone loses their keys. The laminated lock didn't surprise me, it's the most common one I usually bust open.
hardened steel is very easy to machine and manufacture, since it starts off as regular steel, is machined and manufactured, then heat treated after. it adds to the cost, yes, but people who don't really care about securing things will keep buying master locks either way, so...
The problem isn't with the materials, it's with the geometry. Wrenches are incredibly effective at transmitting massive forces as that is their sole reason for existing.
Just use a larger, non thin line wrench. Note that I have used both methods on similar locks (people loose or forget keys on construction sites). With a large enough (long enough) wrench either method works. I've had hardened shackles snap (rather than bend) with enough leverage. Instead of wrenches pinch bars work well also. This isn't since I'm unusually strong but because I learned decades ago that old Greek guy was pretty smart and definitely my friend.
@Russell Chapman One takeaway for people who want to try this, on most locks you'll see around, if you are able to rest the lock on a solid platform, one wrench will work; Simply lay the lock on it's side, place the wrench in and stomp down on one end, it'll rip the shackle up and to the side. Oh and smaller locks, say for bags, lockers etc, anything like that, using a small wrench, pliers, metal rod etc, and simply placing it through and squeezing it and the lock body together will achieve the same thing. For legal reasons this is a joke, and I certainly have never done this.
Ive been watching LPL 2weeks and already managed to pick open 2 padlocks, other is like the one here saying "hardened". Going to practise more. Thanks for videos and a new hobby. And yes, everything is about being legal.
There is a type of lock that is disc shaped with a half moon shaped hole to put the chain links in. The bar retracts completely from the half shaped moon by rotating together with the key. The bar is slightly more than a third of an inch and makes it so that even if you try a double wrench, it will always make you use the old method, breaking the lock where it's strong. On top of that, because it's circular, it spreads the stress over a larger area. On top of that, there will not be enough room to put 2 wrenches in anyway xD
You should listen to one of Deviant Ollam's talks. He gives a very good explanation why physical security matters. Basically if you can pick open the server room and start playing with cables you can do a lot of things with very basic hacking skills.
This video was made in answer to all the complainers in the comments section of the original video saying this method won't work in the real world due to chain links (or some other such interference), being in the way.
I believe it's also to show that it would work against more than a masterlock. So many comments were about this method only being able to work on shitty masterlocks.
thats why me a 13-year-old teen is learning how to pick locks and I'm great at it I always pick my way into my house and this skill will be helpful in SHTF i always thought it was hard until I watched one of his vids than a 2nd 3rd... so I bought a lockpicking training kit from amazon and hear I'm a good not pro lockpicker
@AlI Yo You're one of the smart young ones. Better to prepare and not need it than to need it and not be prepared. As the great philosopher Spiderman said though "With great power, comes great responsibility."
@@ArmoredCricket @ArmoredCricket in Islam we have 2 celebrations in each celebration i get a minimum of 70$ and a max of 150$ i got 200 this year and spent it all on training to pick locks carrieng a pen spy cam with me all time if i go on a holiday i check the hotel with my hidden cam detector i test it it works and rigged my home with hidden recorders
Oh dear, padlock makers of the world - cry in your beer! "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." Archimedes.
Archimedes was using metaphor: www.dictionary.com/browse/metaphor Whilst the Ancient Greeks got some stuff wrong, they did quite well on astronomy: www.ancient.eu/Greek_Astronomy/
@@RealHankShill It's not bullshit at all, it's an accurate explanation of physics. The point is there's no limit to the amount of mass that a human can shift, provided you have enough leverage. In a hypothetical environment where a mass the size of the Earth was placed on a flat ground plane long enough to accommodate a lever with enough leverage to shift it, then the strength of a human would be enough to move it. Not very much of course, but some distance nonetheless. The lever, the fulcrum, and the Earth sized mass would all need to be positioned with absolute precision - a level of precision of placement which would defy conventional means of setting up an experiment like that (not that an experiment like that could ever be called conventional, but you just can't expect to achieve 0.000000(etc)1% precision of placement on objects of that size), the lever itself would have the mass of a planet, and all three would need to be formed of a material more durable than anything that exists in reality, but if all those preconditions were in place, you could move that lever with your hands alone, and the Earth would move. Another version of the experiment with more realistic materials (that actually exist) and more realistic precision of placement (that could actually be achieved) could succeed with the help of a large system of gears at the point of the lever that would be moved, and that's just another demonstration of the same principle, so it's true enough to the spirit of the claim.
Could be heat as well, as during hot weather, steel will expand and contract when cooled, and this may actually lead to it seizing inside the lock. Maybe.
I once got locked out of my garage and the builder, who was doing some work on my house, was able to open the padlock by a downward blow, on the top surface, by a cold chisel, hit with a heavy mallet. It was a mid range padlock similar to the second one you demonstrated. I was surprised that the hasp and staple didn't break first. It was screwed into the wooden door and the wood wasn't particularly thick.
@@thedunceguy8530 via Quorra: "I saw some You Tube videos from the Lock Picking Lawyer, he successfully picks both Mul-T-Lok and Medeco locks. He does it quite quickly, and it’s very impressive. However, the higher security versions of the Mul-T-Lock and Medeco, are actually not picked by the LPL. He picks the lower security version, and locks that were put on the market over twenty years ago. These locks have undergone substantial improvements since they were first introduced……twenty years ago ago."
With the way I interpret the way LPL conducts himself I'm guessing he's already dreading comments about the amount of different wrenches he used to open the U.S. General, he certainly wouldn't want comments like "ok but what if the lock didn't have that kind of chain?". He wants to open the lock, not this particular lock-chain configuration.
Pretty sure the reason the chain isn't used is to demonstrate that it is possible without the locked items coming into play. To see if you can open the lock without damaging the item that is being protected.
Wrenches are specifically made to leverage huge forces to the fasteners they are used on. It is no surprise that a tool which is so optimized that it has undergone almost no change in a century is able to overpower locks. He is correct - choose your locks wisely. The simpler tool will always be stronger than the more complicated device so be sure it cannot be used in an efficient manner on your lock.
Ok this is wrong in some ways. Its still a matter of material strength. In the original video, the lock failed because the person could leverage the strength of the wrench against the strength of the shackle and those combined leveraged against the lesser strength of the pot metal body of the lock he was using. This time that leverage attack didnt work, because he was not able to use his strength through the wrenches agaisnt the shackle to break the much stronger steel body of the padlock. Instead he attacked inside of the lock by puttinf leverage on the locking mechanism itself which is a softer weaker metal than the steel. Try this on a seargant and greeleaf environmental lock and see if you can do it. Thats a much more complicated device than a wrench. Comparable in concept to these locks but made of material thats similar or greater than the wrenches and it would likely not fail unless you were using a powered leverage device ot really long wrenches. Bofa dees locks can likely be opened with just a hammer striking firmly downward on the body under the shackle while its held in a hasp. The laminate lock can likely be lightly rapped open with opposing strikes from two hammers the same time. The round body lock could almost certainly be pounded open with a sledge with a small number of blows. The environmental would likely not open easily to pounding and not at all to rapping. It really boils down to material strength.
@@metamorphicorder if it's a matter of material strength, ok. The lock is high quality, usually ppl do not think of the hasp, this same method can be used to defeat it as well. Also to defeat the screws holding the hasp to the door, or to rip the screws from the door itself, and in my experience the person who installed the hasp, used the completely wrong fastener.(like the wood screws included in the package. Into a metal door). Anyways I think this is a very viable method for almost any situation, and I think that's the point LPL is trying to make... if, you put the leverage in the right spot.
Thank you for this, I was in a pinch. I needed my boots out of my locker and my combo lock wouldn’t open. This has it open less than 30 seconds. You’re a lifesaver bud. ❤
Dude I feel like I could just use your videos as a study guide to get hired at any locksmith. Literally just watch your videos for fun and could re-watch them from #1
Honestly, at this point I am watching LPL to research which lock I should use for which situation, given the general skill and time to steal something in my neighborhood. And it hasn't let me down. Literally whenever LPL needs a minute or two, chances are no one will be able to break or pick it before it's noticed over here.
The Navy uses brass locks for everything,I have broken a huge amount of locks in the Navy this way for people that have lost keys or left them at home.
I use to own a padlock-busting tool that used this same method to open locks. It used two 3/16 harden steal gear plates with two three-foot-long arms that allowed me to adjust it to all shackle sizes. It worked great on Harden steel high-security locks. Especially the ones that were so hard most bolt cutters would not work on them. Because the extra hard steel shackles were so brittle they broke in the padlocks by the locking notches. Today I can't find this popping tool on the internet. It use to be a common Locksmithing tool 15 years ago. If you can find it please let me know.
@@bulacomunistu8727 regular touch isn't near hot enough, to melt. But even a hand saw will go through a safe with a regular blowtorch. It more than brings it up to soft temperature vs brittle.
I remember when I was upgrading my hiking stick to act as a camera monopod, I desperately tried to find a 1/4 inch hanger bolt as the screw to fix the camera on. No chance at all.
This is interesting, from now on, I'm going to put as many links into the shackle as possible to make it harder for someone to use this method. Thanks for the heads up.