8 Passengers Ruby Franke Is TERRIBLE 

i'm working on a huge documentary on the 8 passengers which hopefully will be finished in a couple weeks that will delve more seriously into the topic, hope you guys will like it :)

It's crazy to think that even in a prison she's gonna be living better than her children, she has a bed and food provided for her yet couldn't do that for children she CHOSE to have.

It's not the worst family, they're the worst parents.

I think the worst part is she documented this for so long and she's only JUST facing consequences.

The fact people use faith to excuse there horrendous actions is sickening

This woman needs to be locked in a cave underground

“No texting at the dinner table” she says while she pulls a phone out and records them eating, at the dinner table

why has the father not been arrested he’s clearly involved in the abuse

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He didn’t even know if that prank was why he lost his room. How tha f*ck can you expect a child to change their behaviour if you don’t tell them *why* they’re being punished?!

yesterday i left my water bottle at home. it was completely fine, i didn’t even realize and i just decided i would go without water for the day. didn’t even mention it to my mom. second period, at 8:30AM, my mom dropped off my water with a note “don’t want you to be thirsty!” that’s a real mom. some weeks ago, our school had an event where they were selling things like chick-fil-a sandwiches, pizza, etc. i left the cash i was gonna use at home. once again, i just accepted it and decided to get school lunch. right before my lunch period my mom texted me “just dropped off your money! enjoy your lunch!” a real loving mother would never ever allow their child to go hungry!!

She’s insane and her husband is JUST AS MUCH to blame. Great work Alex you deliver every time.

I grew up in Utah, and I was abused as a child. It’s insane how many of my friends were and are abused. One of my friends mothers managed one of the wilderness therapy camps, and if a kid attempts suicide in the city, they’re sent there. Utah has one of the highest teen suicide rates. ESPECIALLY queer kids. I wish Utah CPS would be better. It failed me, and it failed these children for so many years.

She gets off on torturing the children. She is a sadist. She did it before she met Jodi H, and it only worsened over time. Her husband was doing this right along her side until a year ago. Regardless of whether or not he lived in the home for the last year, he is still responsible for the well-being of his children. The Mormon church recommended Jodi H to couples who needed counseling, couples whose lives she ruined. People complained to the Mormon authorities about Jodi, and nothing was done. You should listen to the interview of Jodi H's niece, where she described how Jodi treated her like Ruby treated her children; starvation, duct tape, punishments of all kinds. Two sick sadists, Rudy and Jodi, found each other. For those not in the US, you must understand that in many places in Utah, Mormons are the government and the law and cover for each other. It starts with the Mormon cult and gets twisted with people like these two.

Ruby is a sadist. Constant infliction of abuse, guilt, and shame. I also see that Chad, Russell, and Eve seem to get the worst treatment. I think the boys are just more energetic and harder to control, and Eve not only has ADHD, which Ruby doesn't think is real, but I think she had Eve after a couple of miscarriages. Instead of being grateful to have Eve, however, it seems like she's particularly resentful of Eve...

it brings me so much peace, and relief, to see people clearly point out & stand against out the toxic behaviours and horrific parenting of Ruby, Kevin (her husband) & Jodi (her business partner). the things these kids went through may seem 'insane' or 'obviously wrong' to most people - but there are more parents out there like this than people realize. my parents were (and still are) like this. i grew up in a VERY similar home, just without religion and on a farm. i was completely isolated from the rest of the world, i wouldn't be fed meals if i misbehaved/had to pack my own lunches as a small child, i had my access to hygiene & proper sleep taken away as a 'punishment', was physically abused and much more. the earliest memory i have is of being locked outside my home in the middle of the night for 'being bad' and pounding on the door, begging & screaming for my parents to let me back in, terrified that the coyotes i heard in the distance might come get me. i was 3-4 yrs old. these things WERE NORMAL TO ME growing up, and no one could have convinced me that my parents were the ones acutally in the wrong. i still believed i had been the one at fault even into the beginning of my adulthood. it took a lot of therapy, and distance from my abusers, for me to realize that what happened to me was inherently cruel, abusive, and NOT my fault. just remember that not every parent loves their child. it is NOT the natural default, it should be, but it isn't. the reality is that *some* people truly hate and DO NOT CARE about their children. i wish the best for these kids ❤ i hope they get to live safe and happy lives now that she's gone.

that clip of two of her children saying they have no friends and don’t feel safe around kids their age is genuinely so depressing. can’t believe she posted all these videos of her own volition and didn’t get her kids taken away from her

Just to clarify, Eve wasn’t 8 in that clip she was SIX!! which i feel like 8 is still kinda eh to be making their own lunch, but SIX is WILD. who is making their own lunches at that age?!?

I have a theory: she treats her kids terrible to ensure they will move out and go no-contact the stroke of midnight on their 18th birthday and Ruby will never have to be bothered with grandchildren. Mission accomplished! Goal achieved, Ruby!

So many parents make sacrifices so that their kids can eat, have safe spaces or something special. Most people would rather starve than see their kids starve. These people are minted and can’t be bothered to give their children even in the basics.

all children deserve parents but not all parents deserve children.

that epic moment when you leave your 3 and 5 year old alone for an hour and they make a mess, who would’ve thought.

Did you take pointers to use them yourself??

So we’re all here now?

Man it's one thing to experience all of these individually, but seeing it all together? Its amazing how often Ruby's treated eating as a privilege. She actively used it as a recurring punishment 😤🤯

She sent the oldest son to be tortured and indoctrinated at a wilderness camp because he was “acting out”… I wonder why??? Parents like this want power and control, and being a parent to young kids is the ultimate power trip for people like this.

As a mother myself I am disgusted by Ruby's parenting. I'm disgusted by what she said in court. I want my child to be happy and that translates to a good safe childhood. I would never want to be my child's first bully. My child treats me with respect and trust because I respect and trust them. Chrilden are soo much smarter than people give them credit, a conversation can go soo far.

Eve was actually six in the Lunchgate fiasco. And those camps do not even employ genuine therapists, much less any medical professionals. My stepsister got sent to a "therapy" military-esque boarding school. She came back more traumatized than before. For context: she was adopted and was diagnosed with Reactive Attachment Disorder as well as Oppositional Defiant Disorder and, later, came a BPD diagnosis. Living with her could be a trip but she didn't deserve what they put her through. Edit: I believe "hit" (in the video about eating) means "a hit of dopamine/serotonin." As in the reward pathways in the brain activate, reinforcing the behavior.

She hates Chad. You can tell by the level of punishments. Even though he plays pranks, you can see that Chad doesn't hate his younger brother. He's playing with him and he's teasing him. He doesn't have any friends outside of the house! So ofc he's trying to have fun with his brother. But she hates Chad and loves the lil brother so if he does ANYTHING to his sibling, she hates him even more. They're playing wrestling on the floor and you think that's torture?? You sent your son to the DESERT. You isolated him in the basement from his family. She's trying to paint him like a villain, but he's her victim.

I used to love watching your videos, I used to watch the, everyday, I would look forward to you uploading. I feel physically sickened that I was watching an abuser the whole time.

Her talking about ED's particularly frustrated me 😭I assume the "hit" she's talking about is the hunger pains, sometimes people can become addicted to that feeling (from experience). But the "lying about eating" usually comes from a place of shame ... this woman is psychopathic and incredibly stupid.

I’ve had a job interview for working in childcare and I began feeling shit. My confidence has returned knowing that I can’t have been any worse than Ruby Franke.

I’m gonna be straight up with you boys, I feel like she’s lucky that none of her children tried to kill her

this story is honestly disgusting, but I love the videos. Having Alex makes them slightly more bearable.

The way he said "What your vision is blurred? Well... I think I fancy a nice hot shower!" 💀

We had the same thumbprint system at my school but you were limited to £2.40 a day so you couldn't buy anything until your main lunch break which was always a tiny meal everyone resorted to just stealing the food

Utah is a terrible place. I grew up in a mormon family and a lot of this is completely normal for mormons. A lot don't take it to the physical extremes like Ruby, but they sure do psychologically beat down on their children. A lot of therapists in Utah will actually recommend parents abuse their children if they're acting out. My therapist told my parents to take away my phone forever, cut me off from any friends I had, at one point they took away my bedroom for months, and many more horrifying practices. I at least had a bed but still you get the gist of just how terrible it is. Utah is a hard place to grow up.

as someone who goes to a thumb print school and has had to do the walk of shame to put my food back its the most depressing experience ever

Her court case is going to be so easy because all the abuse has literally been documented

You somehow make me smile even when the topic is so dark

26:50 She didn't even just take a hot shower, she CLEANED THE WHOLE BATHROOM, and then showered... before taking her daughter to the emergency room...wow

We had to use our ID cards to pay for our lunches in school, but my sister's school had the thumb system too, and one of the scanners was dodgy and it'd sometime charge the student after you for your lunch, and sometimes just not process the transaction...

Eve was in kindergarten at the time of the "let's just starve her" video... I just don't understand why her ex husband (separated for just a year or so) isn't in jail as well Hope the children are safe...

They did the thumbprint thing at my school too. When it was implemented I was so fuming that I just didn't eat out of spite. In retrospect I think it kicked off a lot of weird food issues for me.

My friends parents took away her phone for a year, make her cut her hair short, told her she wasn’t allowed to go out(1 year) and tried to give her dog away cus she brought a boy over without permission. Let’s make sure the punishment fits the crime cus otherwise u r traumatizing your child

My mother was just like Ruby Franke when I was growing up, almost everything i've lived through. Me and my sister are no contact with them as adults and have severe trauma. I can't even remember my childhood because i've repressed the memories. Some people really shouldn't be parents, Ruby is def one of those people.

They implemented the thumbprint thing later in elementary school, having had a number you punched in before that. If the thumbprint reader didn’t work, you still had to punch in your number in time or it’d cancel your lunch “purchase.” I will probably remember entering 3346415 in a panic the rest of my life.

I remember watching Italian Bach when he first started doing videos and I commented saying “I just know you’re gonna blow up and be popular” and it’s so great to see him in videos with you and doing stuff with Jack George and Cole… so glad he’s having some success..

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I remember hearing about some of those things like the horrific wilderness camp and the bedroom thing years ago, not surprised but mad this is going on now

Alex, as a mum of 2, I am so glad you are covering this. There is also an interview clip with Ruby, and the 2 eldest daughters, and its awful. Alex you will be a fantastic Dad one day.

I need to say this for myself: I’m liking the video bc she needs to be locked under the jail, not because I find the situation fun

My father took away my stuff forever (sometimes for no reason). It makes you have a verry strange relationship with THINGS as an adult. My mum had to give me her laptop for any school project, since she didn't even know where mine was put + my toys are still locked in the attic of my childhood home...

Ruby is having a better time in prison than Chad ever did at that camp, maybe she should be sent there forever until she got lost in the woods and never came back

Honestly thank you for keeping us up to date, much love man

as someone who throughout school food from friends being the only food in some cases days, i think it’s so cruel to deny her help from others. it’s not easy to accept help, or to tell people you’re hungry to begin with, and i hope that all of them are in a healthier environment now 😢❤

Eve was actually only SIX when Ruby refused to bring her lunch to school. This woman is INSANE. And then to take it even further, she literally hopes out loud that no one HELPS HER CHILD.

My high school also had the thumbprint system & its criminal

“An ED is a choice your child is making” yes say that to the 3 ulcers in my stomach that caused that ed 💀💀💀

i'm in love with these longer videos, nothing better than settling down and just chilling out watching you lmao

When I was struggling really badly with an ED, my parents noticed and started making my favorite foods to encourage me to at least eat something. They wouldn't let me pack my own lunches because when I did I didn't really put anything in there, and checked my bag when I got home to check that I ate. Like for fucks sake don't encourage an ED in your child. That's so not okay. Encourage healthy eating and healthy amounts of exercise but don't tell them to starve themselves. That's so disgusting.

“And it gets even worse..” -Alex after every video.

Ruby literally sounds elderly at 41 lmfao

1500 calories is absolutely absurd. I thought 1900 was low but 1500 is dangerous. That is fucking unacceptable

With the car crash. YOUR BABY BOY IS CRYING SO HARD HES COUGHING! AND ALL THIS C*NT SAID WAS "WE SHOULDA BEEN IN THAT CRASH" WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K

I grew up in a Mormon household but luckily my parents left when I was 15 so I had somewhat of a childhood but let me tell you 1 thing there is no such thing as a a good Mormon if you follow their teachings you’re just not a good person and don’t listen to them it’s a cult NOT A RELIGION

A female body need 2000 calories to sustain weight. Anything below starts weight loss. A teen growing and changing hormonally, going to school burning so much energy and in a calorie deficit. Forced to aim and focus on unhealthy numbers. Horrific

I have a 1.5 year old daughter and whenever I find myself in a tricky parenting situation I ask myself "what would Ruby Franke do?" and then I do the exact opposite of that

Been waiting for this one. Can definitely see your dedication to the craft, and this specific story and I really admire and appreciate it. Keep up the great work Alex

I needed this. It is such a sad story that I was happy to watch you guys banter at Ruby's expense

I feel like if I were to run into Ruby in public, she'd give me some kinda lecture on why being gay is against gods will and that having kids is such a blessing! but then i look over at her kids and I see that they look like they're starving and bored to death bc Ruby says no fun allowed

i myself also had a thumbprint system in secondary school, i felt like a prisoner 😭

So what she didn't mention is the fact that IF those kids are allowed to make phone calls (most of them are not allowed based on my own research, I've been interested in the whole Troubled Teen Industry or TTI,) those counselors are RIGHT NEXT TO THEM monitoring what they're saying. They AREN'T ALLOWED TO MAKE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE THEY'RE HAVING!!!! So for her to share that is just doubly misleading.

When I forgot lunch once my mom brought me McDonald's. I felt so loved. Stuff like that my parents did sustain me as an adult.

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Lmaooo 25:00 i also had the thumbprint system at my school it was so weird, especially when it wouldn’t work so they’d make you rub your thumb on a cloth to “remove oil” so it would work😭

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Those religious 'wilderness therapy' retreats are honestly so messed up. There's a great podcast called "Camp Hell: Anneewakee" which does a deep dive into one of these camps and some of the things that happened there are just crazy 😧

MY SCHL HAD A FINGERPRINT THING !! it didnt register ur finger half the time and they jut wouldnt let u eat if ur finger didnt scan. and also if u didnt have money on ur account (which only ur parents could top up and we werent allowed on our phones during schl time to ask them to top it up) and they refused to accept cash

I go without food just so my kids eat, times are hard, Id NEVER let my kids go hungry.😢

the ED thing was weird to watch bc i remember being told i’m fat by my family so much i started starving and then my mum and took away my phone as well 😅

Mad how they think it's some kind of Spiritual fix when it's literally like putting someone in Solitary confinement which doesn't actually fix anything but puts you in fear of literally doing anything out of line

Can we just mention how when he got home he said he missed the camp

Thank you Alex you have been keeping me up to date

She’s an Arkham Asylum escapee

At my schools they always had the fingerprint paying system too, I assumed every school had it. It was so annoying because sometimes the machines just wouldn’t recognised your print if you didn’t place your thumb perfectly and you’d get timed out if you didn’t do it in a certain amount of attempts! 😅

I’m so happy that these programs are being brought to light. It ruins people, and can change the entire trajectory of your life. I was sent away at 16 and I was never able to go back home.

We had to use a thumb print at our school to pay for lunches too. Used to be lunch cards but they always got broken so... you had to hope your thumbs never broke 😂😂

bro the camp sounds like a wwasp program

thanks for the update bro, keep it up :')

Let's go been waiting for this all week😭

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24:23 the way my school right now has the thumb print to pay am time snacks and lunch 💀

we had the finger print payment system in my high school as well LOL

Even worse, Eve was 5-6 years old at that time of the lunch debacle 😞

35:00 what she means by hit is like a high, some type of fulfillment by not eating, it’s common in EDs when people fast as long as they can, they get a type of “good” feeling that they continue to strive to get && it’s only able to be reached by not eating. EDs r really complex.

That Ruby is crazy to say the least. She should go to the place where she took her son Chad to live out in the elements and sleep on the ground.

As a mother this disgusts me beyond belief

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