#8: Peyton Manning | The Top 100: NFL's Greatest Players (2010) |  

You realize they were tanking so they could get Andrew Luck, right? They started 3 QBs who after that season never started another game in their careers. It was a joke.

+Pedro Martinez they tanked to get luck and they still have yet to get anywhere close to the productivity they had with manning. they still haven't beaten the patriots, haven't won 13 games, have yet to reach or win a Super Bowl. Peytons second season with the colts they went 13-3 and never looked back going to three afc titles, winning two, and then winning a championship while going through three coaches and key injuries. Peyton was always the constant. Even if they did tank for luck, which is ignorant of you to insinuate they still have yet to prove that they were better off with luck. The truth is losing manning crippled their entire season and they have yet to replicate the dominance they had with manning.

+Jlaw Henessy - you missed the whole point. The 3 QBs who they started that year were patsies - there to ensure losses. But since you brought it up - Manning was 26-22 his first 3 seasons; Luck was 33-15. Manning was 0-3 in the playoffs his first 3 seasons; Luck was 3-3. Manning threw 58 interceptions in his first 3 seasons; Luck threw 43. Manning threw 85 TDs; Luck threw 86. So take it easy with the comparisons. Luck is still young.

Pedro Martinez Curtis Painter was with the colts years before Manning was hurt, he played so bad they went and got Orlovsky who was actually some what of a upgrade. Also Manning is god, Year Manning retires Denver misses playoffs for the first time in 5 years.

BINGO!!!

Brady smarter

Solomon Kessington and your an Aaron Judge fan. Good man.

That is the best damn description ever.

OC that can throw. So true

Tom Brady

The only other QB that could hold that description is Johnny Unitas.

3colts3 I didn’t see Tom Brady in that video?

@@umdmustang9254 The Brady haters will always hate, just ignore it. Anyways, when the NFL releases the new 100 countdown in 2020, you're going to see Brady at #3 at the bare minimum (some people still place Jim Brown and LT ahead of Brady).

@Chris Paul So Bill Walsh is not a great coach? Joe Montana not a great quarterback? And let's completely disregard how elite the 49ers defense was, when they had that goal-line stand against the Bengals in 1982. Let's not act as though Rice didn't have multiple elite hall of fame players/staff around him. Even Anthony Munoz had a hall of fame coach (Forrest Gregg). Walter Payton had the greatest defense of all time in addition to Ditka coaching. Reggie White couldn't even sniff the postseason until he went to Green Bay. And the icing on the cake is that Brady did everything in the era of the hard salary cap. Let's see how good those players from the past would do when a third of the roster leaves the moment they taste success.

UMDMustang92 i diDnT seE tOm bRaDy

You're absolutely right, too. Ray Lewis was phenomenal.

As a colts fan. We may never have someone like 18 ever again

Yes!!! Sometimes ppl speak of Ray like his words were more motivational than analytical. But Ray knew the game as well as anyone who’s ever played or coached. He perfectly assessed the Colts since their 2011 season without Manning resulted in them getting the first overall pick: Andrew Luck. Manning made the Colts a contender almost every season.

So true....they say one person doesn't make the team.. obviously the Colts 2011 season proved that point wrong!!!

yup

***** Lawrence Taylor is ahead of him

He still had the record with 49 at this point and his second ring he was really a passenger. He should stay where he's at

@@CS-wn2sz no he he didn't tom had his record beat by one touchdown

@@ThatsMrTaylor2u damn 4 years ago you're talking about Lawrence Taylor like that damn good prediction

He's playoffs CHOKER ! Most loses in Playoffs - Manning

he is a 4x mvp

Best comment ever.

+Isaac Chavez this clip was in 2010, he won an MVP in 2013

+2PACLosAngeles you have to make the playoffs a lot to get that record,

ak12montvale respect people like you are rare

The goat

+LongSnappersLivesMatter I don't think you realize the meaning of his comment, Peyton is great because he loved the game and spent countless hours improving his game and practically changed the quarterback position, who even are these people that supposedly "carried" him anyway lol

+LongSnappersLivesMatter I started watching the NFL in 2014 but I've seen Manning's highlights and seen he had an amazing work ethic

LongSnappersLivesMatter Tom Brady was carried by bill B and a good team

The way I look at it now is when you play QB your suppose to be a leader and a teacher. Brady only cares about himself just look what he did to garoppolo

The only 2 QBs better than Manning were Brady and Montana due to playoff numbers and performances. Manning just doesn't quite have that one game that he went off. Let alone win against a team that was destined for a dynasty... multiple times in Brady's case.

Jose Zuniga thank you

About time this is brought up

So u got LeBron over Michael?

@@telmolicious at this rate it's arguable

Brady is the 🐐

The 2006 Ravens defense started the season with a shutout of the defending NFC South champions and went on to a franchise-best 13-3 record. Six defensive players made the Pro Bowl, and it wouldn't have been crazy for all 11 to go. The Ravens are one of just 3 teams since the merger to register 60 or more sacks & 40 or more takeaways in the same season; joining the 1985 & 1986 Chicago Bears. The Ravens ranked 2nd in yards per carry against (3.3) and led the league in opponents' passer rating (63.4), rushing TDs allowed (5), interceptions (28), 3rd down defense (28.8% conversion rate allowed) & Red Zone defense (33.3% conversion rate allowed) They didn't allow any of their last eight opponents to score 20 points. The 2006 Ravens allowed the fewest points (201) of any team in the post-2004 Illegal Contact Era. The Chargers - the highest scoring team in the NFL in 2006 - scored just 13 points vs that Ravens defense including none in the 2nd half. Outside of when Samari Rolle blew it on 2 bombs vs Steve Smith & the Panthers (5 scoring drives), the Colts offense tied for the most scoring drives (5) vs the 2006 Ravens defense all year. They had 5 Adam Vinatieri Field Goals, Peyton threw 2 INTs on deep balls on 3rd & 10 & 3rd & 17 to Ed Reed - basically 26 & 49 yard punts as the Colts defense forced takeaways (INT at the IND 1 yard line, INT at the IND 23 yard line) on each ensuing possession - but getting in position for those 5 FG attempts; Peyton Manning & the Colts offense was 8/12 (66.7%) on 3rd down in the playoffs vs the stingiest defense of the last 20 years. If the Colts don't beat the Ravens that day I think they probably go on to win the Super Bowl. The Patriots receivers in 2006 vs that Ravens defense; plus Brady's struggles w/ teams that can pressure w/ just 4 men - which the 2006 Ravens could do in spades - doesn't sound like a great matchup for the Patriots that year if that had been the Title Game.

Brady light years ahead of Manning

+Apaathyy not even

+Nathiah Fipps yes he is

+Nathiah Fipps while in post seasons

Nathiah Fipps Brady 6 SB Appearances, 4 wins, 3 MVP's and 1 loss coming off from the luckiest catch in history of the NFL. Manning 4 Appearances 2 wins two losses, 1 loss he sealed the game up with having a pick 6 at the end and the other was blown out in one of the worst SB's in history when he had the most prolific offense in history, and in 1 of his two wins he had the worst performance of a winning QB in the SB ever.

Wow..really

jzon3251 Drew Brees is more accurate than Aaron Rodgers...

Peyton Manning Brain, Dan marino Release, Michael vick Arm, Tom brady competitive spirit, Lamar jackson Legs, Drew brees Accuracy

Lets try lamar speed, Fran Tarkenton Ability at escaping Sacks, Aaron Rodgers skill set

Agreed

so true 👍

dan morino

So true

You're right: it's a combination of championships, leadership, statistics, intelligence and clutchness. Only two men are at that mountaintop. Montana and Brady.

+Pedro Martinez leadership, statistics and intelligence describes Manning? your argument is invalid

Criminals stick together.

Kommunisti 22 Tom Brady is

Dan Marino

Only person I could say could compete with him os Montana*

nihilist 243 I wish- from a dolphins fan

@@umdmustang9254 nah

6*

Which is why the argument of Brees>Brady can also stick.

How can you call a MVP award an "individual award" when it takes a TEAMmate to catch Peyton's passes so that he gets all those stats? The funny thing is that you'll sit there and say Brady's Super Bowls are a team accomplishment but PEYTON won two Super Bowls with two different teams". You may not even say that because now Brady has done the same but it was a constant favorite among Peyton fans before Brady did it. Btw, out of those 5 MVPs how many times was Peyton named MVP unanimously? ZERO! On the other hand Brady was the first player in NFL history to be name unanimous MVP. Surely you're not dumb enough to take a MVP award over winning the SB. That's why the game is played. Its the ultimate prize. Anybody can have a standout season and win MVP. Look at Cam Newton. How many QBs have gone to the SB 10 times and won 7 times? I bet you can name the SB winner in 2005 but can't name that season's MVP. Brady has went to the SB 10 times and been named MVP of that game 5 times. He's been MVP in half of the Super Bowls he's played in. There's no way you can tell me you'd take regular season MVP over winning the SB and SB MVP.

You literally just contradicted yourself by trashing Brady

+Z0rg0n Destroyer of Worlds When did I trash Brady in that comment?? Did I even mention his name??

+Okay_Then "the cheat" is pretty self-explanatory

+Z0rg0n Destroyer of Worlds So you think Tom Brady is a cheat cause I didn't say that. Mhhhh.

+Okay_Then Reread your original comment. At the end you said "or the cheat" what were you intending to convey?

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Brady is the goat in cheating

Not really

Brady always had a better o line to protect him than Manning did

bruce lee Peyton>brady

Chris - one artificial formula does not tell the whole story. Life isn't that simple.

+Pedro Martinez You think wins and losses tell the story better? I beg to differ.

Christopher Johnson Is that what I said Chris? You shouldn't be so presumptive.

Try this: Peyton Manning: -Most one-and-dones in NFL history -Top 3 in pick-sixes -.500 record against teams with winning records in regular season -Second in most interceptions in the modern era -14-13 postseason record -Second highest single-season interception total in modern era -6-13 v. N.E. Patriots -0 playoff wins when passing 50+ times -most postseason losses in history - in 2 Super Bowl seasons threw more INTs than TDs in playoffs - 3-9 when having to throw more than 40 passes in the postseason In Manning's first five seasons in the NFL, the Colts made three playoff appearances - one as a division champion and the other two as a wild card. The Colts went 0-3 in those playoff games, losing by a combined score of 83-33 and getting shut out 41-0 in one game. Manning completed 47.6% of his passes for 558 yards (5.3 yards per attempt), one touchdown, and two interceptions, good for a passer rating of just 59.1. The Colts then played the Patriots in the 2003 AFC Championship game and Manning completed 23 of 47 passes for 237 yards, a touchdown, and four interceptions for a 35.5 rating. A year later, it was a similar story - the Colts lost to the Patriots in a game in which Manning struggled (this time posting a 69.3 rating). No starting quarterback in NFL history has lost more playoff games than Peyton Manning. 13 times, Manning's team has lost a playoff game, and eight of them have come at home (four as the AFC's top overall seed) Math doesn't lie. Great QB but not the best.

Here's more proof: Manning had the #1 defense in the league in 2007 with the Colts and lost to the Chargers in the Divisional Round AT HOME. He threw one INT on the S.D. 11 yard-line and another at the San Diego 2 yard-line. Choke city. Manning had the #2 D in 2005 and also lost in the divisional round AT HOME, getting his team into the end zone ZERO times in the first 45 minutes of the game.

César Omar Raudales You’re lying to yourself

Maybe in regular season, but he choked in playoffs so many times. Not on Brady's level.

+2PACLosAngeles not on Joes either

fax

Nope. Super bowl 48 will like to disagree with u.

Peyton 3, Brady 2!

@JL-CptAtom The whole 'He couldn't perform in the post season at all" narrative is a myth.

THAT'S GOTTA BE KANE!! Been three years now and Tom got 2 more rings

Tbh I wouldn't put either of them in the top 5. I think the top 5 are Walter Payton, Jim Brown, Jerry Rice, Reggie White, and Lawrence Taylor.

@@cobracmr4 Joe Montana

@@dwightlove3704 i think Brady has surpassed Montana tbh

@@cobracmr4 In terms of longevity yes he has obviously but you must take the in the idea they played in different era's and Montana never lost in the Super Bowl unlike Brady losing twice to the Giants,Eagles.I still say Brady would have retired already if he played in Montana's era.

Peyton Manning - most interceptions by a rookie; most playoff losses; most pick-sixes in the history of the Super Bowl; most one-and-dones; 10 seasons with 15+ interceptions (Brady has had NONE; and there are about 1,000 other negative stats which counter Manning's impressive positive stats. He was an innovator and one of the greats but the GOAT doesn't have a .500 record in the postseason and go 9-15 versus his archrivals. Heck, Manning was 28-28 against the AFC East. He had a mediocre record against good teams.

You mean the year the colts sucked for luck because they wanted to replace manning? LMAO

Michael Murphy Kobe I believe had a shitty first season as well

@ReturnoftheBrotha Once you get that deep in the playoffs, the holes on your team will be vulnerbale and exposed. The patriots had very little, while the Colts were basically a giant hole outside of Peyton Manning and 1 or 2 offensive players

@ReturnoftheBrotha BS. Compare those Manning playoff teams to Bradys teams. I bet every single one of Brady's was better except maybe our super bowl year. You also seem to forget Malcolm Butler gifted you guys a ring or that would've been called a choke. You also got lucky the falcons choked or that would've been another. Not to mention if you're giving Brady all the credit for those rings then none of it belongs to Belichick who is supposably the greatest coach ever? Stop it. Brady always had better teams and you know it

Reason why he's my all time favorite QB. Studies the game and defense so much that he can call his own plays

@@hmng2178He was my favorite qb to watch for sure. He was an offensive coordinator that could throw 😂 I remember games the colts would have an entire series of no huddle offense where Peyton called every single play and drove down and scored. That was a regular thing especially at home with the crowd completely silent to not interrupt 😂

Brady has more rings than manning Bruh

+CG Films he cheated for two of them

+CG Films plus bradys teams are loaded anyway

+Thewidestmule 1 of them

+CG Films my bad brady only cheated for one superbowl no biggie

They're ridiculous, man.

really you could flip a coin lol

why can't everyone just get along and appreciate the greatness of Manning and Brady instead of arguing so much about who's better

cus bradys ranked 21 on the list

what's crazy is that he's ahead of brady

Well Brady had only 3 rings when this was made, so it made sense for him to be where he was

It's the reason he got a huge contract with Washington

Superbowls are a team stat. Brady hasn't won a Superbowl without Belichick, a top ten defense in points allowed, or a first round bye. Manning has been to 4 Superbowls on two different teams with FOUR different coaches, and won with and without a first round bye or a top defense. Manning did more for his teams than Brady did for his.

1. Peyton 2. Montana 3. Brady

You can't be a huge fan of Colts and not believe that Peyton is the goat smh

I'm a huge fan of the Browns and I KNOW Manning is the GOAT.

brady > Montana > 1000000 people latter manning > 10000000000000000 Peyton manning

Jimmy garoppolo #4-0 #2ndGOAT #HottestNFLplayer "Latter"

yep just like their 4 AFC championship games where Brady has been so "clutch" NOT

I said compared to Manning. Brady has undoubtedly performed better in the post-season than Manning has. To say otherwise would be simply ridiculous and biased.

Mr. Jattyamla - Four? In the 2003 and 2004 playoffs Brady crushed Manning.

Peyton's numbers in the playoffs are almost identical to Brady's Peyton: 40td 24int 7,198yrds 88.1pr 63.35cp 14 wins Brady: 56td 28int 7,957yrds 88.0pr 62.38cp 22wins You add on top of that the 3-1 record manning has against Brady in championship games And you can see how flawed your playoff comparison argument is. Only thing Brady has on manning is having played for the greatest coach of all time, while Peyton took four coaches and two different franchises to win his sb's which no qb has been able to do not saying one is better then the other but even in playoffs Peyton is an all time qb.

andromeda gen Sounds like a classic case of reading too much into the stats. First of all, I wouldn't call their TD to INT ratio almost identical. There's actually a pretty significant difference there. Plus, a lot of Brady's stats are against better teams because he's made it deeper into the playoffs on more times than Manning. And secondly, have you actually seen all of their playoff games? All QBs throw picks, but Manning has thrown them in crucial times and costed his team the game on multiple, memorable occasions. Brady is known for his consistency and being able to execute 4th quarter game-winning drives. If an unbiased football fan like myself (Eagles fan) is going to put the game in one of these QBs hands and trust him to be clutch, 90% of fans would have to pick Brady. Not to mention that Manning has more one-and-done playoff appearances than any other QB. Coaching and team play are obviously factors, but there's no question Brady has the better playoff pedigree. Brady has never had to take different coaches or franchises to the SB because he's only needed to stick with one, due to their winning nature. Your argument is the only flawed one here lol

Exactly. Do the list in 2018, Brady will be top 3, probably 1st

ArtOfWaveTv Peyton is just as good if not better.

ArtOfWaveTv Manning is better than Brady

lol exactly "greatest defense of all time" so basically manning did nothing, can u tell me how they cheated cuz I can tell u how the Colts did

Jimmy garoppolo #4-0 #2ndGOAT #HottestNFLplayer Deflate-gate, that's how

Every single team was involved in spy gate, and tom Brady was suspended for being more probably than not being generally aware of a deflated football, not for deflating but being generally aware.

Stephen Dusablon explain the texts

Stfu choke artist

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4 rings > 2

+stxnces Why do a lot of people see rings as some sort of stat? Rings are won as a team. Brady has 4 rings because of Bill Belichick and his supporting cast.

Why debate someone with a closed mind?

Yup, sealed the deal long ago sir

Jake Richardson You should probably vote for Trump then with reasoning like that.

+Pedro Martinez Hillary is better?? Tf

it's very close. I think there is no GOAT. Peyton is the Regular Season GOAT, Brady is the postseason GOAT, and Montana is the Balanced GOAT.

Totally agree Peyton is the greatest regular season an ever by a mile…Brady is the better playoff qb by a mile

Let us know when another QB goes 16-0. I'll wait.

+Pedro Martinez let me know when tom Brady actually have a perfect season

+A Lombardi Trophy it was Brady fault they had 50 TD that year but they score only 14 points tom Brady laugh when plaxico said they were going to score 17 points

+The Bling Dynasty Joe Montana 4 rings 0 loss tom Brady 4 rings 2 losses

+The Bling Dynasty but Brady lost two Superbowl games isn't that what you patriots fans are always bragging about why don't you just suck on that big fat L eli gave you two times I hope eli give you another one so they can put in all your patriots fan holes

Since you've wrote this Brady has won another SB & another SB MVP. Can't even imagine how salty you are now.

@Beast Without Belichick, Tom Brady is NOTHING and that is a FACT.

Lunzatis Palemoon yes. Even Matt Hasselbeck went 11-5

This was in 2010. Now? No one will debate Brady vs Manning, always Brady vs Montana and most say Brady

Are you like 12 year old? 🤣

And yet can't beat this manning 0-2 ahaha

Im going to say that if you switched Peyton and Brady... Put Peyton on the pats with Belichick it wouldn't even be a contest. JMO

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ANNNNND gimmie yo rings

Brady current 5 game postseason losing streak to quarterbacks named manning tell a much different story!

yup

Agreed Brady gets too much credit. They have good defense and Gronk

+ZebraMan 1102 good defense huh. I guess you haven't really look much on the patriots throughout the years especially since 2010.

+Patriots/Forza Fan Tom Brady trash

thats a great comment man

Then that definitely makes Peyton the goat

Thats not a team effort that between two players

He doesn't pass to his kicker that wins his sb's

+K Mule - you're right. it's only 2 players. the other 9 just stand and watch. I'll bet you excel at Minecraft.

***** your actually right tbh

+G-Nation you are one of the few people on here with an objective, well-reasoned opinion. Thank you.

***** The rest of us love football but have a hard time being objective when it comes to our home team!

***** I feel the same way about Manning. But I don't hate the Colts anymore. At least not until they get back on track. I do hate that Bob Kravitz though. He's no good. And Indiana always gets a pass in Massachusetts because of Larry.

***** C'mon G - you're killing me!!! The Hick from French Lick!!!