A chaotic poem about English pronunciation 

I think so

Yes

Not since the accident.

Yes

yep

Yes, but a couple times he was too fast, because you know it was not his first time through. This would be fun to memorize. No, it would be all seven levels of hell. I am proud I memorized the Jabberwocky poem. That's plenty for me.

I noticed that while learning Italian as an English speaker. I’ve learned to chill out on getting the details and instead let those ‘filer words’ just sort of flow in my brain.

How do you pronounce e-y-e-s?

@@eclipses1003 e-yes

@@eclipses1003eeeeeeeeeeeeeeessss

WHAT

​@@nininyoko13Not just longer, it has over double the length. This video has 112 lines. The full version has 272. It's titled "The Chaos" by Gerard Nolst Trenité

@@GrinningJest3r oh it's chaos alright XD

omfg

It’s what

💀 Same here but I wasn't even half way through yet, will haunt my nightmares tonight for sure

And it took longer, because I needed to check back the pronunciation (I still got no idea how much query and very differs! Like, it's different, sure, but... Like,the R is pronounced different? But R is a letter I won't touch with a ten meter pole, because screw the alphabet for letting a single letter have so many different variations!)

@@blending_in I checked at 0:30 because I thought it was 6 lines 💀

@@boombeembum 😂😂😂

I stopped after 90 sec, this is the longest jeaney video ever, and it's pure agony and torture. Never again.

You didn't submit a assignment. You submitted a hostage situation.

@@erikvale3194*an assignment

You submitted Mutually Assured Destruction

That would be the English language in a nutshell.

So true 😂, I agree ✋✋

So we have no idea how the first syllables sounded in old English? Lol

@@bonaaq86 We do know now, partially because we can look at rhymes, and other such things. We even do it in the modern day without thinking, for instance, if I say "I pronounce garage like porridge", that tells you all the information you need to imagine how I sound saying that word, without ever hearing it said.

​@@asdfasdf-dd9lkNo, I'm just more confused. Do you pronounce garage like porridge? Porridge like garage? An entirely different pronunciation all together? Granted I'm not a native, and this poem messed my brain so badly you could tell me basketball and fish are pronounced the same and I would have no choice but to trust you on that one...

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 x=y-1 but what is y?

​@@Rev_Erserbut what is x??

monster

@@Apostate_ofmindof the best variety 😈

As an actual native speaker, i failed a speaking portion of a practice test given to people who want to learn to speak english

Oh no, he’s evil. I would’ve read this when I was 12 if I’d found it because I had an intense interest in English words then.

@@thefalloutlord Hilarious. :-)

Don't malign Seuss. He's a sweet soul who only needed 50 words to pen Green Eggs and Ham

The fox with the sox

Maybe as revenge for people mispronouncing his name. It's supposed to be pronounced like "soyes", but everyone pronounces it "soos".

@@nathangamble125 I pronounce it "Seaus"

He WAS evil, though. I think you mean villainous.

thanks

This poem sounds like it would only work with a few dialects of English.

​@@the11382 Yeah four and Arkansas don't rhyme if you're from Arkansas

Thank you

Thank you. It should have been in the description.

That’s amazing

this deserves way more likes

Also a thief that repeatedly robbed other languages blind.

More like a bunch of cultures came together and threw some shit into a big pot, stirred it, then called it good. They way english is now, is not it‘s fault. It‘s all the Romans, Germans, Vikings, and and Normans that came to the British isles that screwed it up.

Its honestly hilarious that English ended up being the national standard, because it is one of the hardest languages to learn. Speaking it isn't too difficult, but there are zero grammatical rules, only guidelines with tons of exceptions. Its crazy, because I am a native English speaker, so I kind of just grew up assuming it was normal to have wildly inconsistent grammar rules, pronunciations of certain spellings, etc, then I find out that nope, English is just a hot mess. Mad respect to anyone who has to learn English as a 2nd language, because its like learning 5 languages that have been blended into 1. I think the only "popular" language that is harder to learn is Mandarin, because the same words have drastically different meanings depending on how you pronounce them (kind of like how in English, you go higher in pitch at the end of a question, to indicate a question). Other languages have a bit of this, but Mandarin does it a ton, and the different meanings have nothing in common. I've never experienced it myself, but a buddy of mine was trying to learn it, and apparently unless your pronunciation and verbal grammar is perfect, you are unintelligible. Its not even just that you will ask for the wrong thing, your sentence structures will completely fall apart.

😂

I don't like Australians. They're always trying to mate with you.

capitalization means the difference between "Helping your Uncle Jack off a horse" and "helping your uncle jack off a horse"

And "therapist" changes more with a misplaced space

Good ole "Let's eat kids!" vs "Let's eat, kids!"

nah, you never had to learn french. They have the most rules but still make an exception for everything.

Welsh has entered the chat

Yeah bro, like inversion, imparatif, masc and fem, futur proche, passe compose. All kinds (and I have an exam about it)​@@marvinh3357

I will admit that British pronounciation just triggers me in some way. They emphasize ough so much. And these inconsequential vowels that are said differently compared to similar words... WHY?! English accents are extremely different from each other between english speaking countries or even regions (like USA, UK, India, Ireland and so on), so i am surprised that there are still solid rules on how to read some stuff anyways (and of course these rules are British). ... And here i am speaking Russian with around 200'000 "dictionary words" (up to 700'000). Granted i bet significant part of those are some weird word forms, rather than unique words. But these words are to teach us how to write them, not how to read them! ... "dictionary word" for us mean that you either cannot check word by any rule, as it either is exclusion or just have no check-word... Or ruling on word formation is obscure enough so only linguistics specialists study them. Meaning other people just need to remember these instead. At school we are studying only around 1600 of those or so. Most of others come from books, practice or intuition.

Hear, hear

Cringe

I enjoyed it, too. English is my 2nd language.

It’s not as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be. I wasn’t a huge language arts nerd, but I used to look up words in the dictionary for fun when I was younger, and also would look up similar words in the thesaurus.

@@MrsRedMink ???

“Welcome back to English 101! If you couldn’t already tell, this language is incredibly inconsistent despite being considered a national standard. This is why I have pulled up this poem to help you practice a majority of the words you will ever hear or use in your life. Good luck.”

I actually saw this on a poster in an elementary school classroom. I don't remember it being this long

@@januszbogumilit would have been the condensed version. There are other poems that we had at school when I was 8 but for the life of me all I can remember from it it is mice are not mice’s but mouses a moose is not mooses I just can not remember it at all. But it was a right tongue twister and mind bending 😹😹😹

@@dawsie that makes sense. I just remember the beard and heard bit

That's "aid". An aide is a person, an assistant 🙂

if by rich you mean latin and french infused, then ig you're right

Thanks 😊 although my mother tongue is way worse, its Polish, need i say more

​@@truelingoism this literally makes no sense, you listed two latin languages and english is germanic so obviously its base is something else than latin and french. But go off queen, who cares about facts

well "dankjewel"!

English is my second, sometimes i still go "thafuck" at some worlds lol

You are an idol and deserve the world

By heart!

👏👏👏👏👏

@@Quotenwagnerianer I think it might even be funnier if it was the first time they saw the poem because they would have to stumble through reading it

@@victoriandino True.

Very clever comment - lost for words. 😂😂😂

This is what someone else wrote in the comment section: "For anyone wondering, this poem is titles "The Chaos" by Gerard N. Trenité, written in 1922."

@@TVY2013 A fitting title.

It's a bit loose for me 😢 ​@@tsup2

​@@tsup2Titles typically fit, yes

Your teacher is definitely a secret psychotic murderer😂

Hey, as far as I can tell you made it, your dream came true.

Well, the Polish language isnt much better

Good for you. I fell in love with the books of ltalo Calvino, an impossibility difficult author, when l lived in ltaly. I used to translate them sentence by sentence, looking up then pencilling in each word l didn't know. Once l understood that sentence l'd do the same with the next. Then I'd reread them both and so on until l had understood the paragraph, then the chapter, then the book. It took forever but, it was so worth it and my vocabulary was AMAZING. The Italian friends that knew l was a foreigner used to say my vocabulary was better than theirs and others usually never realised l was foreign.

If you wrote that comment and English is not your primary language, then all that I can say is your teachers were right. Recently a German relative of mine married a polish girl. I had to make a speech in German. I tried to include one sentence in Polish, Gratulujemy ślubu i witamy w naszej rodzinie Just learning how to properly pronounce those few words was a battle and I don’t know if I really got it right.

i've heard and been taught to pronounce Plait as Play.

I think what's even worse is when dialects will retain multiple pronunciations and switch between them depending on how much the word is emphasized. Well, that, and the fact that different dialects also distinguish sounds differently, so whether Mary, marry, and merry are distinct is not a universal thing. Likewise, your second example is meaningless in my dialect because all three are pronounced essentially the same. Unless I am emphasizing the words, that is.

@@BrooksMoses And "haunt" and "aunt" (2:12) are pronounced with the same vowel in the western half of the United States (cot-caught merger)

Some people tend to add the an "S" to the end of arkensas' pronunciation, but that tends to be just a thing some people prefer

In British English dandelion is pronounced differently.

That English is a stupid language

“pain”

the frustration of knowing that the pronunciations for these words, many of which are also unknown to a number of people, are misconstrued in everyday life -or- in specific events where we embarrass ourselves in front of other people for showing how stupid we looked to some people, regardless of their importance to us, because fuck adolescence and hormones and grade school and high-school life... all, in a form of poetic writing.

"You probably suck at advanced English"

raises hand "the message is that English class is pointless because 90% of the language doesn't follow the rules we're taught."

Hii lab rat

Maybe but easy to say, and I got all the pronunciations correct as well.

👍❤️

Ain't no way you memorized all this for 50€💀

@@Ugeybruh I did :D my teacher thought no one would even try to do it and he was really surprised when I proved him wrong :D i felt challenged

@@crewl1020 you're a madman💀. Did you get the 50€ tho?

@@Ugeybruh yeah, I got it :D but I had to recite it in another one of his classes again 😅

Activation Code Received Colonising world For King and Country

Or woken some leviathan creature...

Or started the rebirth of the empire...

😂😂😂

Suddenly, Jimmy Fallon doesn't feel like laughing

Does this mean we can cancel this monstrosity as the product of a toxic male teacher with a 'problematic' crush on a female student, and henceforth save all English students?

it is absurd, after all, english had a long history of cultural exchanges

Native English speaker here. I'll even go as far to say as any person, native or not, will have my respect if they can read this.

I definitely can't pronounce every word in this poem right, but I also struggle with saying things correctly in my native language... so maybe I'm just dumb :P

@@helyphion You're not, well, at least if you are dumb, it's definitely not because you can't pronounce words the vast majority of native English speakers never heard of.

In my high school‘s theatre group, our Shakespeare play one year was “A Midsummer Night’s Dream,” and I found out on opening night that the person who played Puck was not a native English speaker. I actually could not believe it, she was such a class clown type and spoke with so much inflection and made jokes all the time and was generally very expressive and talkative, she was using whatever slang was the trend at the time, and to play THE MAIN CHARACTER IN A SHAKESPEARE PLAY?? I couldn’t believe it, I would never be able to do that, I was so impressed.

​@@helyphionnah languages are just too vast to know it all.

As a native English speaker, I agree with the Frenchman.

As a native English speaker, I think the French are not ones to talk. ❤

@@michaelheliotis5279 French pronunciation is fairly consistent, so that aspect of it is not a major problem for non-native speakers.

@@jdb47games English pronunciation is also fairly consistent once you know all the rules behind it, there's just more of them and they include rules from several other languages along with adaptations into English which are perfectly intuitive if you are familiar with all those other languages. If you aren't familiar with the French rules, it will be just as difficult to pronounce a word of French as if you don't know the English rules.

​@@michaelheliotis5279Are you fluent in French?

American English is essentially a melting pot with bits of other languages thrown into it.

And they have two more languages in the pockets

Love that description!

English is not a language, it is an index of multiple languages that you cannot use in their respective dialects

And it beats up other languages in dark alleyways and rifles through their pockets for spare grammar and loose vocabulary

I hear your pain! I moved to Italy and spent my first few months trying to learn Italian from an English/ ltalian dictionary but, in reality, was mostly just crying about the incomprehensibility of ltalian verbs. In later years l taught ESOL to ltalians so, l had it from both sides. My students agonised over the seeming lack of rules and logic in English too. The spelling and pronunciation of Italian IS logical to a certain extent but the gender of their nouns defies logic as do the indefinite and definite articles! Here's my best tips for learning. Buy and read Italian comics and watch cartoons. The illustrations help to give context, Diabolic was my all time favourite. Also watch movies in ltalian that you've already seen in English. Ditto for books you've read. Knowing the plot in advance helps. I fell in love with the absurdity of ltalo Calvino's writing and while they were a nightmare to read it was worth it and my vocabulary was outstanding. 😊 I used to "read" with a dictionary and a pencil. I'd write the English translation under every word l'd had to look up, then l'd reread the sentence, then the paragraph, then the page, until it all made sense. Hope this helps. Auguri!

As a French person, i always pitied English native speakers trying to learn it. Some of its rules are really dumb. As a side note, i did okay on the poem, so i think English isn't that bad. It's very simple and intuitive most of the time, no wonder it's the most universal language.

Because English isn't a language, it's the bastard stepchild of two different language _families_ welded together with no regard whatsoever for consistency, which then went out into the world to pillage vocabulary (and much else besides) from every land the Brits could lay their hands on.

@@mewziikal8331Just a note on the last part, it´s not English simplicity and intuitive nature what makes it the most popular lingua franca, but a snowball effects due to political, hence, sociocultural reasons (namely the influence of this emergence from the British Empire). No wonder why Spanish is also one of the most spoken languages

​@@nikiTricoteuseoh I could be reading my own right of passage from the UK to Italy (then back grazie a COVID) My friend once qualified "Jane, it's MR roof 😂😂😂" IL tetto non LA tetta 😮 Good but confusing times. I once said I hope they weren't farted instead of discouraged! I imagine, you've plenty of similar stories!! Buon ... tutto!

"Indict" is the one who supprised me the most. It turns out I had only seen it written, and never heard it out loud

I had the same results which would be around %90 to %95 percent but i did have some problem pronouncing some words same as the comment on top of mine

I’m also a non-native English speaker, and I failed to pronounce about two words of that poem correctly. I’m quite proud of myself really.

I'm a native speaker, and some of his pronunciations were more an accent rather than a hard rule really. So I'd say some of them differently and it wouldn't be wrong.

An obvious one would be "aunt" and "grant" pronounced differently between british vs american. For american it would be something like gr ANT (the insect) and ANT (again the insect), then british the way it is in the video (Awnt and Grawnt).

As a native English speaker, there were a LOT of words I didn’t know. Don’t feel bad haha

Some of these are words which aren't in use anymore, some are proper nouns - so the names of places. Hiccoughs isn't actually the correct spelling anymore, we use the more phonetic 'hiccups.'

Don’t worry, most native English speakers don’t know what those words mean either, much less how to spell them ,:)

Because your brain must be made of porridge to understand the English language (Is that a rhyme? I don't know anymore!)

@@jameskowanko7574 I still type/write it hiccoughs. Because fuck readability, if I had to memorize that fucking spelling back in the 80's I'm going to fucking use it.

Advice * 😊

Except it doesn’t end, because the original poem is twice as long as this video shows 🫠

Or English is a continuation of a thousand year tradition of annoying the French. "English is badly spoken French."

I’d say they’re the single largest contributor to the stated monstrousness

You were supposed to adopt the entirety of french. Not just a quarter.

Oh we know but that was never the intention. As one of the most illustrious Frenchman said: What is English? Badly pronounced French. And boy was he right. I'll see you in the mines.

@@axelthizon2419 It probably would've just been weird sounding German if not for the Hundred Years War, but of course the Frenchman calls English "Badly pronounced French" like there's no bias to that at all 😂

I love Spanish because it's phonetic. You simply say what you see and chances are you'll be right. Not so in English though!

​@@heirofthenazareen3812bruh you think English is hard? Try french

@@DameOfDiamonds LOL :-) Agreed!! Pronounce the French word "vendent!"

@@heirofthenazareen3812 i feel like if you make a language with words that need different words to describe how they are pronounced, you failed at making a language

​@@DameOfDiamondsFrench and English share a lot of words, usually the fancy words in English are from French.

Spanish is hard, though. Although just in grammar. Not much on pronunciation

@@HOMBRERAYA Yeah it was the conjugation and occasional inconsistencies that got me. Not as bad as english but the difference in structure made it hard to get used to.

afterward*

At least English doesn't really do grammatical gender (I say as a Latin nerd lol)

And then on top of that is a poem using the wrong spellings intentionally. When you have words like “sea and see” and “there,” “they’re,” and “their”…

A decent number of them are from older english, medieval-style terminology, or similar - Basically, completely out of use in the current day, so you either have to be familiar with period works (fantasy stuff covers a lot of them) or read a lot of older literature to be familiar with them. I'd assume that this is probably the ~majority~ of the words people don't generally recognize. That said, there's also definitely a few that are still used that are just not "common" as well. But I think most people should be familiar with most of the words in this amazing poem if they read at least a decent amount of famous literature, such as those commonly required to be read for school.

I have an excellent vocabulary and a few words stuck out to me as unfamiliar or very, very obscure. So, you're not alone in thinking that.

@@jovetj Same here. Some I've only seen in very archaic sources.

Accidental read it as 4 centuries instead of 4 countries, got really confused

Same. Like wtf is hiccough?

Yes.

Why did I think this comment was going to rime?

Because you thought it was worth the time

​@@bonaaq86because you write rhyme like rime.

@@GodsSoldier29 I'd call that a verbal crime

What you're looking at is the bastard child of the Germanic and Romantic languages, which has been put into a blender and shaken with vigor. If an English word looks weird, you can blame the Victorians, and by proxy the French.

mediocre is médiokuh i think

@@isaakyhsialf4369 Nope. "Mee-dee-OH-kur"

I laughed way too hard at this, thank you

I'm a spaniard, and spanish language is very defined in which ways to use words, write and pronounce stuff (with solid rules with little to no exceptions), so I remember learning english and just giving up on trying to understand how it worked. I just "whatever you say, honey" 'd the language and mimicked it, all while in costant fear of mispronouncing.

Yes well it's the fault of the French so

@@SavageGreywolfno, they took our words and what happened after is not our business. French pronunciation is surprisingly consistent. Show a new french word to a french, they’ll always pronounce it the same

​@@tlgx884Except that English really did take quite some words from French.

@droverslane4678 Really? I'd like to know, might help me with French class at school

Then you got the point of the poem.

Yep I didn't know like 5% of the words and I'm a native English speaker

never heard sward before

Literally no one today has the intellect to be able to put together something so poetic and complex

@@thesegundovolante ? This is a joke right?

@@neeltrip2443 Don't feed the troll.

Yeah, I was surprised to find that victuals is apparently actually pronounced vittles like the Southern bastardization (or not so) and grew up spelling hiccough "hiccup" though I now know through that spelling where the word came from (a cough with a hic)

Yeah, I noticed they spelled it mould and Americans spell it mold

I was almost surprised by aye being pronounced like “eye” cause here I’ve heard it pronounced like “hay”

@@Shining_purple_light_7Well that could be different like putting something in a mould to form a new shape!

@@lastgiddon aye, they do!

Not to diminish it or anything, but he's playing on easy mode. He's using a shortened version of the poem that omits some of the meaner verses and being an audio-only recording means it'd be really easy to record multiple takes for a given verse or consult a pronunciation reference between verses.

i got so scared and thought this was me for a sec (pfp)

@@bonglobster HELP LMAO Hsr players unite

@@Meveyethin 🤝 luocha enjoyers unite

I feel as though I’ve got a pretty extensive vocabulary as an English speaker and I think part of the problem is that there’s a non-negligible number of words that aren’t used in even uncommon English. There’s at least 5-10 words that I’ve never even heard of in this poem.

My issue was seeing words I’ve literally never encountered before. Truly chaotic

Fr. I'm not a native, but I'm pretty much confident how to pronounce in English words, but this poem is just make me realized that English is just really inconsistent(?)

@@jacks.6872 - and some are made up or misspelt.

Same

The author of the poem was Gerard Nolst Trenité and he was not English, he was Dutch.

@@tessjuel And the title of Trenité's marvellous poem is "The Chaos".

@@tessjuel Thank you! Found it! The guy was genius!

@@tessjuelAny idea when it was written?

@@tracik1277 1922

M’lord ne’er bade me pick up a quill, alas the spelling of feudal “Foeffer” is beyond my ken. 😔

This poem is making me wonder why english is the world's lingua franca (?) 😭

@@brownfamily1892 money

​@@BlueIron64You got my ribs 😂😭

​@@sentathDafuq?

I'm with you for all but plait/plate. Plaid and plait are both short, ignoring the I. 'plad'

Exactly! I'm American and it was a British voice reading it, so our pronunciations clashed. Each of us was "right" since U.S. pronunciation is correct here, while British pronunciation is correct for them.

"WONT"...is not an English word

@@Merip1214 Different people use different pronunciations so both versions are probably correct. No different than “gala” having different pronunciations.

...Nice try

our language makes no sense to the best of us, it is okay :)

Don't worry because should you ever meet an English speaking tourist and you can't quite seem to grasp what it is they are trying to say to you they will usually shout the words louder and louder at you until one of you simply gives up and walks away. Btw l was sitting around with some Porto Gallera fishermen a couple of decades ago and they apologized to me and my yank friend whenever they started talked fishing with each other and slipped inadvertently into Tagalog without meaning to. Made me and my American friend feel like the unsociable arrogant barbarians that we are because we had to both recognize that we probably weren't emotionally sophisticated enough to have the sensibilities to do the same if the situation was reversed and it was a Phillipino that was sitting around with a bunch of Euro-trash or Yanks. Anyway cheers.

That one is a rather obscure name, so it would be tricky to hear it in regular life.

I got everything but Terpsichore because what the entire hell 😂😂😂 I did get Melpomene because of The Expanse audiobooks because of Clarissa Mao

Yeah that’s me as well I have always adored reading

The thing is, while the point of the poem is pointing out that English pronunciation and spelling are often at odds with each other in ways that other languages avoid... using the names Melpomene and Terpsichore feels a bit cheap, because they're not native English names, they're anglicized renderings of _Greek_ names. However, I _would_ also say that gets to the core of one of the features of English that is probably most responsible for the inconsistent pronunciations, which is that English is uniquely equipped for appropriating foreign loanwords. Any language that snatches up words from Spanish, French, German, Arabic, Sanskrit, Japanese, Nahuatl and Hawaiian and makes them its own is going to have some spelling inconsistencies. But it's also one of the features that has led to it being so vibrant and widely spoken, too, so it's a bit of a trade-off.

@@peterbutterjam97 Terpsichore is one of the Nine Muses, daughters of the sky god Zeus and Titan of Memory, Mnemosyne.

Many of those words in that poem are really old Shakespearian words, that even I, as a native English speaker with a large vocabulary have never heard or read before

The prom is 101 years old and some of the words aren’t used commonly anymore, don’t sweat it edit: *poem I had managed to block the fact that the prom is tomorrow out of my mind edit 2: okay am I whooshing people or am I being woodshed by people who also know the joke

Slight problem though, primary keys are unique and spellings... unfortunately aren't ☠️

@@walkermenkus104 I didn't say it was a perfect approach :P

@@wieldylattice3015 Have fun at the prom.

Yeah, there are a few of these that just don’t work in American English, at least a good chunk of regional dialects. I’ve never known anyone who pronounces “sieve” as rhyming with “live” (it would rhyme with “grieve instead). Also, some of these depending on your dialect don’t rhyme-Some Americans would rhyme “aunt” with “grant”, but I tend to say “aunt” in a way that would rhyme with “haunt”. So the pronunciations don’t match up. (But sometimes I say “aunt” with the “grant” sound. Usually when talking about a specific aunt, as opposed to “haunt”-rhyming aunt which is more for the general concept of an aunt? Keeps you on your toes.)

​@@nemesi55o

@@nemesi55 Live or Live? :)

@@nemesi55Just chiming in from the northeastern US to say that I (and everyone I know who grew up in my area) pronounce "sieve" to rhyme with "live" (or give).

@@Karadoxical I grew up in southeastern US and also pronounced sieve as “siv” (rhymes with give)

Bro 99% of all native American speakers have no idea what this poem is saying

When I meet someone who is learning to speak English I am inclined to give them a hug and a trophy just for trying. Crazy. Oft times you have to know the meaning of a specific word before you can figure out the pronunciation.

Sorry but it seems natural to any fluent speaker, no need to be native. A lot of non-natives would not struggle reading this.

The poem itself is just giving many, many examples of words that look alike and look like they should sound alike, but when you read them they are completely different

We'll never forgive until you legally change the spelling to enuf, coff, ruf, thru, tho and thoro.

If you're American, your opinion is invalid 🤦‍♂️🤡

Surely not?

And 100% of non-native English speakers.

As a native English speaker who is fascinated with the language and its two variants, I audibly whined about a third of the way through

@@Vynthos What do you mean by two variants?

@@scarose maybe american english and britsh english, or current english and olde english?

The point is that there are no spelling rules. (Well, there are, but they require you to know the etymology of the word)

​@@BryanLu0 More that pronunciation changes outpace spelling changes. Words with silent letters, for examples typically used to be words with pronounced letters until "lazy tongue" won out and the dropped letter got slurred away. But it gets preserved and petrified by writing, literally carved into stone at first, and written the same for ages after the spoken form diverges countless times. It's often only when some group explicitly and deliberately makes an effort to consolidate and normalize spelling that silent letters may go away... for a time. But language always changes. The slang people speak today isn't even the same as what they were speaking 5 years ago, and *definitely* not what they were using 10 years ago, and 20 years ago, and 30 years ago. And in another 2 years or so, we're all going to have to learn brand new weird terms. Yeet will get yeeted and there will be some brand new term to mean "to wildly throw away with great force, whether literally or metaphorically"; I dunno, maybe "scomf" or something like that. Everyone will "scomf" stuff all over the place for a couple of years... then it will get replaced with yet something new.

@@omargoodman2999 Other languages have much better correspondence between spelling and speaking, e.g. Spanish has highly regular spelling

@@BryanLu0 That's because, just as I said, explicit steps were taken to standardize it on a national level, starting with the efforts of King Alfonso X of Castile in the 13th Century, and later Queen Isabella in the late 15th-early 16th Centuries. Then the Spanish Royal Academy in 1713 was primarily given the task of standardizing the language. So, for a long time, Spanish standardization had been a unified effort at the highest levels of government. By contrast, English standardization had always been the efforts of a single individual that may be picked up for a short while and some changes may be made, but then those changes would be dropped either in whole or, worse, in part. When standardization is part-way rolled back, you end up with even greater divergence than before. For example, an attempted English standardized system was liked by Theodore Roosevelt and he ordered government offices to start using it in August of 1906. It only lasted until December of the _same year_ before Congress passed a resolution to restore the old spellings. But, by then, *some* changes became commonly accepted like anaemia->anemia and mould->mold. But others like mixed->mixt and scythe->sithe didn't end up getting taken up by the public in common use. Compare the _relative_ consistency of Spanish (it still has issues like silent initial "h" and such) to a language like French, _also_ a Romance language, but with spelling craziness out the bird... I mean the _oiseau..._ I mean the wazoo. And don't get me started on Japanese... or lion eating poets.

@@omargoodman2999 Yeah, and there was also that trend of changing pronunciations to seem more French because that was seen as the 'classy' way to spell

bro we just found satan right here

Um, im in 9th right now. Is it weird i know most of these words and how to pronounce them correctly?

No of course not, it just depends on how dedicated you are and how often you speak english :)@@sunflowerjjunie

@@AliceHerbring thank you so much for reassuring me! If it were my classmates they'd definitely go, "you're an alien aren't you?"

@@AliceHerbring also, English is actually my third language even though I learned it at the same time as my first and second. My country is not an English communicating country.

Evil.

Ah, the language that shows the history of conquest, both as the conquered and the conqueror.

While yes, but no as an Italian we more or less have the same amount of influences but we made a phonetic system based on actual rules and syllables. So yes it was entirely avoidable but cool none the less.

So it is ancient.

Which reminds me, I never knew how to pronounce epitome as I only ever read it in books and didn't learn Greek. I thought the word pronounced as eiptome was a completely different word (same with Arkansas) until I started working in a legal firm and heard and saw an Epitome of Title. Made sense then 😀

Also other imported words from other countries.

Spanish rules are a pain in the ass, but at least they exist. English is pure chaos, you just have to learn everything from memory, I hate it.

Italian is the same. Same as Spanish I mean, not English. We have a word for spelling, but I bet if you ask 1000 Italians only few know it so rarely it is used.

I have been studying Spanish in my free time for a little over a year now and in talking with my friend who convinced me to give it a go I have brought up how it basically feels to me like learning it you just need to choose how to deal with C/S/Z, LL/Y and B/V based on where and with whom you will speaking then stick to the choices and how other than that and the occasional X that may do funky stuff Spanish phonetics feel quite simple considering the rules tend to be quite consistent. Not to mention the vowels actually tend to behave themselves elimiating guess work English has from fitting way too many sounds onto not enough letters plus there is even Ü for the edge cases like Pingüino to keep things easy. It is very pleasant to learn in contrast to how awful I'd imagine English must be based on when I read some of the more "out there" town names from the UK for the first time and then feel like I am having a stroke when I see how to pronounce them correctly.

English doesn't have many rules, and that makes it very easy to learn and understand at a conversational level, but it makes it absurdly difficult to "master", and allows for a lot of insane but very unrealistic things like this poem, or the "Buffalo x8" sentence to exist. The benefit of how English is designed is that English speakers, regardless of language mastery, regional dialects, Native or Non-Native can very easily converse with each other after learning only a small amount of words, and even if you use the wrong versions of words it's easy to understand what someone meant.

​@@godqueensadiethe last bit of what you said is so completely true, english although basically impossible to master, is easy to understand when wrong words or grammar is used, or even completely different pronunciations of a word is used, that's how people particularly in America still understand each other despite heavy regional accents/pronunciations

;)

For those of you trying to figure out this comment, the last part should sound like "There are no rules" when said aloud. I'm worried that comments like these annoy some, so I'm sorry if that's the case.

@@ianthehedgehog9327 You explained an already unfunny joke, reducing it into the negative.

@@mousermind Nah mate u're just hating. I'm convinced @ianthehedgehog9327 is genuine and only trying to help. The joke is well.., "corny" but again, I'm very certain it was supposed to come across that way. Think whatever u want champ

Well i thought "their our know rules" was funny 😄

*itself

And I didn't even know what that meant.

whate the hell is a viscount

@@Punch_Card It's a noble title like Duke or Count. Comes from French I think so that's why it sound like that

@@donpollo3154 yeah

I learnt the pronunciation of Viscount from a Chucklevision episode where its mispronunciation was a running gag.

congrats! even after taking honors high school english courses, I stumbled through this on my first few tries. english is my first language, too! I'm a college student now, and I've been studying Spanish for seven years... I can still only dream of muddling through something like this

Shy of bilingual? That's just a fancy way of saying "I am, in fact billingual" Sincerely, a Latin american who's too lazy to use Google Translator

@@Iranofideaswhilewritingthis334 Can't say that until I prononuce that whole thing correctly. I got humbled.

@@glaggyt929 Still, you're doing good lad!

Nah man you are billingual, most people can't talk in their mother language at the best level, me included

He got "wont" wrong at 2:11, he mistook it for won't.

@@spamhonx56 NOOOOOOO

Also he pronounced “Lichen” with a short “i” when it should have a long one.

@@Woynich STOPPP ITT NOOOOOOOOOOO

@@spamhonx56 it has several correct pronunciations, including his

I failed at corps

It's okay 💕 don't worry. ​@@jonseon5952

I failed at victual.

I failed... I'm sure several, I'm too lazy to Google the pronunciation of the words I've never heard pronounced before.

So did I...and I'm Scottish.

English is a giant Kraken, eating language sailors whole who dare go out to sea, finding nutritional value from the vocabulary and grammar they are made of.

ironic how this comment was made from 3 different replies to another comment

touché 🤓

Brilliant description. 😅

English is a favored language for the fact that it can easily adopt foreign words.

What is your native language?

I'm a native English speaker, and I relate strongly to your experiences too. 😂

@@AFAskygoddess German and Russian. I was born in eastern Ukraine and grew up in Germany speaking both.

Do be careful, I've heard some, otherwise well read audio books pronounce some words excruciatingly badly (not even dialectically correct).

@@deja-view1017 Haha, I can imagine. But by now I've consumed so much English media, I should be mostly fine. And if not, I'll gladly learn :)

I’m also a native English speaker (a Lancashire lad) and I was amazed that I knew the meaning of every word (even skein - the collective noun for geese in flight, gaggle on land or water) Simonline🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🤔😀👍

@@simonline1194 skein is also a bundle of thread, like embroidery floss, or yarn.

... and wool @@leinonibishop9480

I think it's brilliant too. IMO, part of it is age. This poem was first published in a 1920 textbook. I live in New England and I think some of the words have fallen out of use, even in school. I also deliberately tortured myself with extra Shakespeare in High School. My friends kids read much more multicultural stuff and more modern English works than I did.

@@kitefan1 Something that occurred to me is the difference in how kids are taught to read in the modern age. Traditionally, in the past, they learned by slowly puzzling out words written by the masters in classic literature. So they had to learn big words right from the beginning, and grammar and context from excellent authors. Today kids learn to read from little kids books and internet slang and some people never touch actual classical literature in their lives.

The t's are the hardest to pronounce.

Here is how we learn: Type in "pronounce" followed by the word or sentence you need to read into Google, and you'll get it read to you.

There's spellings as well! E.g. it's "mold" in American English instead of "mould."

​@@MadocComadrin yeah, I used a lot of American pronounciation instead of British, tho it wouldn't make a big difference in the end since I can't pronounce every single word correctly

There’s no “subtle” difference 😅

@@MadocComadrinyes 😭 as someone who speaks American English, the spelling confused me a ton at times

England doesn't have a unified pronounciation. A southerner trying to speak to someone from the north is about as easy as a southerner in France...

And an extremely large number of idioms.

And English has a zillion silent letters.

spanish: xd

​@@heirofthenazareen3812live french reaction

You mean 5 letters for 20 vowels.

Agreed! I muted the video and attempted to read the poem out loud. In 2nd grade I was at a college reading level, and I love writing. I didn't know a few of these words! Excited to see new words for the first time in awhile :)

I’m with you, although my errors were all due to learning the words through reading and then never having a chance to actually use them in speech. For instance, I never equated the American “vittles” to the original “victuals” so mispronounced the latter. I grew up in Canada and had about equal exposure to both but never needed them. “Food” is a so much better word! 💕🇨🇦

This video is Abt proper English. Other dialects don't count.

@@gbazo762 what do you mean by “proper English”? It’s not quite RP in the video, “u” and „o“ lean more toward /ʊ/, like in Irish pronunciation, instead of /ɐ/. So there’s no need to be so carping

@@mashab.234 Academic English. Colloquially refered to as Proper English. In an intellectual discussion, Academic English is the only relevant dialect.

@@gbazo762 I have never heard of “Academic English pronunciation”:0! Would you be so kind to provide me with links to resources where I can read about it?☺️

In fairness, Terpsichore is kind of a cheap shot, since she is a actually a Greek goddess and therefore not really an 'English' word per se. That said, it does highlight part of the problem - that the English language has borrowed a huge number of words from a vast array of other languages, which is part (though not all) of the reason why the pronunciation is so wildly variable.

@@EternalQuestion yeah all of the ones listed are proper nouns, which is unfair since i've personally never heard of any of those places before as someone not from britain.

Huh? I thought those were the easier ones, might be due to having english as my 2nd language, english pronounciation is completely different, then words like balmoral appear that might as well not be english words

@@fitmotheyap As a native English speaker, I'm very used to saying most english words, but I simply haven't heard of some of the proper nouns so I can't pronounce them.

yeah i thought it was pronounced as "aug"

@@xislomega242 it could just be pronounced like that noise the pufferfish makes.

0:49 you meant

Most people I know pronounce it with the A as in Wag or Man or Ally. I think it's a British thing to use the hard A as in Way or Alien Ayylmao