A Conversation on Cardiac Rehab with Dr. Abeel Mangi | Starting Strength Radio #12 

Great guest. Please, in the future let the guest speak more. This why you have a guest on. So we can learn from him or her. Thanks.

What is foreign to me is that somehow strength training requires some sort of copious amounts of 'motivation'. If I don't work out w/weights I feel similar to not brushing my teeth or not showering. It's just a normal, daily thing to do.

Wow, that was fantastic! Thanks for doing this.

I was the same. After hitting 43, I wanted to find a good strength program. Read Rippetoe’s and Sullivan’s books about barbell lifts and it has changed me on a molecular level.

Informative and entertaining, but most of all important! Thank you, gentlemen.

FANTASTIC PODCAST!!! Thank you Gentlemen 👍

"Just let them die. It's okay to die." -Rip A quote that changed my life.

Fantastic info. Hate to whine but can't hear guest and Rip is blowing out the ear drums.

This was fantastic.

Good content as usual.

I have enjoyed the podcast and have listened to all of them up to now and have had a lot of fun and found them informational. This podcast included. However, as noted by several people, I would like to hear the guest speak more. Abeel came to talk about a dr. - coach relationship and he barely got to expand on it! It was clear Abeel was getting increasingly frustrated as the talk went on. I hope he is able to improve the cardiac doctor's understanding of exercise.

Nice intro. Thanks for the upload. God bless.

Awesome work 👍🏽

The chemistry is so wholesome

When Rip told his friend you are not a heart patient anymore you are a lifter 😭🤧

This is fascinating. It is amazing how bad the modern life is for us, and how much a few changes can affect us. I watched a lecture by Dr. Jason Fung that was fascinating.

I'm glad I had the opportunity to hear this info, but I truly wish Rip was just not present for this interview. Stresses me out so bad how much he interrupts his guest.

Rip, is there any way you can give us the studies quoted by Dr. Mangi

Rip, great info. I lost 60 lbs just trying to get off BP meds. Unfortunately this did not work! My health has benefited though, immeasurably in other ways

Excellent interview. Mark makes the interviewee concise as most talk a little too repetitively.

Ha! The youtube captions wrote at timestamp 46:56, "the Star Trek franchise gyms"! LOL!

Apparently, this dude took "getting fit" as though he is taking his USMLEs. What a baller. 355 lbs x 5 in 18 months, and his favorite author is Umberto Eco. FML

Can we revisit this with the good doctor. An update of how things are etc.

The content is amazing. But as discussed by others, let the amazing content speak by its self..

What are the recommendations to get started after heart attack? How much and when? As Rip said, he started his friend out with bar only. How does the progession or method differ?

Good work from the doctor, poor performance from Rip not leting him finish his statements as usually

Nick needs his own mic.

Let the dude talk and turn his mic up....

I agree with almost everything said here, but lowering blood sugar from 300 to 85 in two weeks with lifting alone is hard to believe. There is no doubt lifting does increase insulin sensitivity and lower BS. I have tracked it, but really, 300 to 85 sounds too good to be true.

So basically strength training along with improving the quality of your food intake is the prescription even for folk with cardio problems along with post cardiac surgery folk.

Mark Rippetoe..you know a lot..but sometimes you have to shut up and LISTEN...even though you know stuff

I am wondering if someone could comment on safety of valsalva in patients with congestive heart failure? There is little to no research I can find that addresses the common instruction to not hold your breath.

Always remember to let the guest speak uninterrupted. Just saying 😀

dudes I just had to hold down a bounce house from flying away like the wizard of oz, and herd escaped cows and pigs back to the pen all inside of 24 hours. And now I shall squat, press and deadlift. And cuss about it.

When u have such knowledgeable guests let them talk & u listen more. Maybe just maybe you'll learn something new.

Love Rip, but this is one where I wish he'd let his guest speak more, but since he'd already met Rip previously he must have known what he was in for. 😆

Doctors seemed trained to treat patients like an assembly line. They are over-worked. I try to work with my doctor by learning as much as possible about the health problems he assesses because he doesn't have time to learn about how blood readings and similar tests affect someone that lifts heavy and eats a high protein diet. All I want from a doctor is one that will listen to me when I refuse something and not try to pressure me into taking every medication he thinks I should have. Those are the worst type of doctors. The ones that think they're knowledge is from up on high and shouldn't be questioned even when they know they are over-worked and treating me like every other human regardless of what I do differently in life. Smart doctors work with you. Dumb doctors treat you like an idiot. Doctors should be happy with patients that take an interest in their health, not offended.

More contradictions in this one too. Rippetoes dietician with the jerrycurl Santana advocates for a high protien high carb low fat diet while training. Whats with the carb hate in this one?

The heart"s epicardial adipose tissue will be metabolized versus aerobic exercise...will not..epicardial adiposis is the killer fat of the heart

Great subject. The doctor has quite a bit of knowledge. It would have been good to hear what he had to say a bit more. Not to say that Rip is not entertaining.

Rip, let your guest speak. Plz

Last

Rip just ignores the data his guest quotes about cardio significantly improving ACM, then taking cheap shots at cardio later in the “interview”

Rip looks like a yankee candle scented MCL cafeteria

Rip’s favorite color is chartreuse.

Been lifting since 20, thirty eight years now, never used any drugs at all, am ridiculously fit, look thirty something, deadlift 400+, and haven't even had a cold for at least 15 years. Body fat is never ever even close to 15%. People are mind numbingly lazy

Rip schools a surgeon on Surgery Brilliant....

Yes, it is rip's podcast but ffs measure yourself and give the guest a chance to elaborate a bit more. Just. A. Bit. Ffs

I think using word stress for a positive adaptation is a bit misleading even though it is accurate but for a better understanding i would use word stimulation instead of stress. Cus it becomes confusing when you start talking about negative and positive stress only using word stress. At least for an ordinary person i think. Ofc you might say we are type casting and we font care about people who dont get it... but The fix could be using separate words for positive and negative stress like stimulation and stress or just add the positive and negative when refering to stress. I know it is only my view. It doesnt mean it ia correct ;)

TFW your malpractice tail goes through the roof 33 min mark.

Please in German. Thank you

What Rip is saying and has been saying for many years is that a lot of this, in fact MOST of this, is just common sense, which apparently can be overcome all too easily if a dumb-ass puts on a white coat and tell you the opposite, as MOST family or regular practitioners do. In fact even this Doctor PRIOR to reading Rip's books thought like the rest, and even this doctor was obese to a large extent... I just hope this doctor can open the eyes of many more. A hard and difficult task to be sure. Most doctors tell someone the complete opposite of what plain sight or plain seeing demonstrates to anyone paying attention, and the person ('patient") just takes this buffoon's word for it. Rip's an asshole, but I rather deal with an asshole that knows what the fuck he's talking about.... in this area and all other areas, doctors, mechanics, etc, I rather deal with a rude ass if he knows what he is talking about.

Texas is going to shit. Dallas is like Atlanta a new Africa.

Please let your guest answer your questions. You are interrupting and answering your own questions. Why have a guest. Becoming a good listener is crucial.

Wow, Rip really dos not let his guests talk. So rude.

Let’s talk about cardiac rehabilitation. Who do I want to hear talk about it; a cardiac surgeon or some guy that owns a gym??? Hmmm....Love ya Rip but stfu and let this guy talk, he actually knows about the subject of training in relation to heart issues.

Medicine is there to let people live without a change in lifestyle, imo. Medicine is not there to make anyone's lifestyle revolve around strength training. Physical Therapist need the "evidence" to start changing surgical protocols. Just...provide it. Put it in the literature and then they will follow.