@@Raycevick sorry dude A game should aim for to satisfied not to maintain your ravenous appetite . its like seeing a glutton repeatedly hit the buffet if You need a mental image Mr Creosote from Monty Python's The Meaning of Life.
The older and busier I've become, the less I want to sink 300 hours into one single game. Having a child really impacts the time I can spend on something and I've lost all patience for grinding and doing busywork in games for a perceived reward like a skin or unlock. I love when games trim the fat and give me an amazing time all of the time.
i appreciate games that have a style that makes me want to keep playing - i don't want only that as what every game is, but some infinity services **are** quite appealing to me, and make me want to play them for thousands of hours. but yeah, other games are good too - my favorite games **have** been mostly indie or midbudget entries that didn't go forever but i think the style was just as important as the limited length in those titles as to my longterm enjoyment even after i stop playing. but sometimes a game just makes me want to play it 'forever', eh? not that anybody has the time to do that, but wanting to because of enjoying the Gameplay that much.
And now there’s a generation of children who will grind for hundreds of hours in the newest call of duty like we did in the modern warfare/black ops days.
People don't realize how much more fun they'd have if they divided up the hundreds of hours of gametime they spend on one game with a lot of low points into many different games that are all high points.
5:50 kinda reminds me of what Civvie was saying on his Singularity vid, although with a more crass manner "A 5 hour game made by people who know what they're doing is still better than a 20 hour game made by chucklefucks." I hope this trend of making games needlessly longer goes away.
Tired of this trend pushing RPG elements into FPS games or making them giant boring open worlds. Terminator Resistance put all these Western FPS games to shame. It is a labor of love unlike Wolfenstein Youngblood.
@@Gruntvc making a game "rpg" or "open world" for the sake of playtime. It's reminiscent of 1980's soap operas. Recycling tropes over and over due to semblance of differentiation.
I had an existential crisis with Far Cry 5 because of its RPG mechanics…did the game really wanted me to play the campaign or just shoot as many people as I can whenever I'm on the road for experience points? Also how the fuck those experience points magically materialize into gear instead of...I don't know skill points? did they know what an RPG actually is?
A game should be satisfying (feels like a complete product), but leave you wanting more (so you buy the sequel). The latter is best explained through television metaphors. You want a season finale, not a series finale.
New Year. New(ish) Office. New Editing Software. That last part caused some issues delaying this video's launch, DaVinci Resolve gave some trouble during rendering. But work's gone into revising Patreon, building a better work environment, and the next video, which is already being written as all footage is captured. I played a lot of NFS: Heat during the Holidays. Whether this year will result in a more steady stream of content from me, I can't overtly promise; only time will tell. But I'm always grateful for all your patience, and support! Whether you've been watching for years, or this is the first ten minutes you've seen of me. Thank you!
Happy New Year Lucas. :) If I could recommend you a little game for you: ballisticNG. It's 8 bucks on Steam, and it's a Wipeout clone made by fans and helped by original devs of Studio Liverpool. It really deserves some attention, in my opinion. :)
I wouldn't say I've watched for years.. but I think I've watched every single.video you've made in a couple of months. I love this form of content and you're the best at it imo
"I'm going to ban Doom from future videos until Eternal comes out." By the time your next video is out, Eternal will have been completed on its highest difficulty in under an hour. Pulling your chain, Lucas. Love the content as always!
@@KennethRathburn ah. those reference are teasing me for a Raycevick Doom Campaign/Arcade/Multiplayer video, which is why I dislike that Doom is only mentioned and not made more videos on.
@@Raycevick Hell, I've replayed Half-Life 2: not even the episodes; multiple times over the last 2 years since I first did, and if I got sick of it it was self-inflicted. Nothing in my completionist mind was left; perfect ammo loot and health save files at the end game, all chapters unlocked, etc. Being the original Xbox version; no collectibles, no achievements, no jerk-off the 100% complete meter anything. In the completionist part of my brain, it was pointless to revisit it; in other words, I played it purely for its own sake, and I only had myself to blame for overexposure.
"Being 4 hours isn't a negative." I wish more companies understood this. I will spend money on a game like DOOM 2016, because I know it's going to be a game that is balls to the wall ripping and tearing for a few hours, and then end. Sure, maybe I'll play it again, but maybe not. I will not spend money on a game like The Division, or Destiny, because I don't want a time sink. I want a fantastic game. I already have enough time sinks as it is. Edit: To clarify, I don't mean I'd rather spend $60 on a 4 hour game, but I'd rather buy an indie/non-AAA game for like
I think it does matter to some degree. Especially if you pay a full 60 dollars for the game. At some point quantity does matter. Yes I would rather play a good 4 hour game over an 8 hour one. But if I have only money for one game and my choice is a 10/10 4 hour or 8/10 long game with replayability I’ll pick the longer game. But that’s just me.
It's not a company thing tho. It's gamer thing. "Game is only X hours" is such a common complaint that I'm not surprised big companies would rather make filler content to stretch gameplay time. Even I am guilty of that, despite being conscious that shorter game doesn't mean bad, I often stop myself from buying one because "oh it's so short but so expensive, I rather buy something else".
Play Terminator Resistance. Way better than Wolfenstein Youngblood. Also, better add Activision, Ubisoft, WB Games, etc to that list. Pretty much every Western gaming companies have sold their souls and passion. Japan and Eastern Europe devs/games are where you find games made the way they used to be.
Every sentence that comes from your script and mouth, is like every minute of Portal 2 or Titanfall 2's campaign. It's so well thought out and not a single word you say is for filler. Thank you Raycevick.
@@Raycevick Hell, I've replayed Half-Life 2: not even the episodes; multiple times over the last 2 years since I first did, and if I got sick of it it was self-inflicted. Nothing in my completionist mind was left; perfect ammo loot and health save files at the end game, all chapters unlocked, etc. Being the original Xbox version; no collectibles, no achievements, no jerk-off the 100% complete meter anything. In the completionist part of my brain, it was pointless to revisit it; in other words, I played it purely for its own sake, and I only had myself to blame for overexposure.
Ok, i was thinking i should play titanfall 2 but now that its been compared to my favorite game ever (i have been replaying portal 2 for 7 years) I'm going to get it. Should I play the first game first?
"4 hours isn't a negative." After hearing this video in full, yeah I understand your reasoning very much. What matters is the fulfilment I received while playing. RE2 remake isn't that long on a second or third playthrough, but because it hooked me on its' setting, characters, and gameplay(survival horror fan), I got way more longevity out of it than a typical looter shooter, or open-world grind fest. Thanks Ray, you put the words to my thoughts yet again.
Enemy encounters and ammo amounts in RE2 can also be seen as somewhat random too, it keeps the moment to moment gaming exciting instead of rote grinding. The hidden dynamic difficulty in play and random zombie health and movement behaviour makes each playthrough and encounter unexpectedly challenging even when you thought you've mastered movement and aiming, the enemies keep surprising you unlike most games where enemy behaviour is quickly learned and exploited in every fight. We're likely going to see even more of this in RE3 with Nemesis being much more unpredictable and aggressive compared to the relatively forgiving Mr X.
As I told one of my friends while discussing anime: "All good things come to an end because good things know when to be over; terrible things go on forever".
Idk if that was your intentions but the fact that manga eventually end is a big difference between American superhero comic and Japanese comic. Since the popular superhero comics are never going to end, none of the characters / story developments really matter in the long run and everything will reset back to a status quo at some point. I used to be a fan of Marvel and DC stuff but now I just couldn't care less.
Just wanted to say that I loved the cool edit at 6:22. Where the first shot is the group riding in RDR1, and the second one is RDR2. Really good timing, felt seamless!
@@Raycevick Absolutely man. You just keep getting better and better with the editing in these videos. Always a pleasure hearing Klayton's work in your projects, as well! Keep up the great work.
It's good to hear someone who feels like I do. I'm always wanting a new experience nowadays, I want the next truly unique game, something that I'll remember for years. I can't really afford to get too many new games though, so I often have to return to old reliable multiplayer games that I can replay. But nothing's better than playing something truly worth remembering. It's among the greatest joys in the world to me.
Ho doesn't? When a youtuber doesn't over state it's welcome for the sake of mass appeal "Pewdiepie" They are more likeable and have less flaws compared to the ones that become annoying after a while
“Being 4 hours isn’t a negative” I wish more gamers understood that because complain length has become such an easy criticism you see online which makes companies not want to make shorter games.
Angry Joe catch frase "4Hours" Is mostly to blame for this, I have great memories of short games than I do longer games, but that's mostly because of my short attention spam
That Guy Again It depends on what your budget is. I’d prefer a 20 hour game over a 4 hour game for $60. $15 an hour requires an extremely sound story to make it worth it.
I figure this is a good time to share a personal story, since it's something very much related to this topic. Back when I was going through the Trails in the Sky trilogy, I was mesmerized, and when it was over, I was all but done with it. I didn't leave wanting more, but I didn't leave wishing it was over sooner either. I left it wanting to share it, and it became a game for me I dread playing through again on my own, but streamed for others several times. I find the best games, once you're done with them yourself, you still can't help but want to experience it again with others. That the simple act of sharing it with another person and seeing how they react and respond to its highs and lows becomes enough to reinvigorate it entirely. I'll never pick up Trails in the Sky again for myself, but I know I'll make more saves just because I can share it with others who won't buy it for themselves, and that's praise I can't say about very many games. I doubt I'll ever go back to A Link to the Past or Final Fantasy 7 or any number of classic games heralded as greats of their era, but the act of sharing them with others seems to give them a new flavor entirely, as seen with the resurgence of LttP content and hype in the wake of a new way to play it with others.
The Dishonored series is the one that has made me feel that way the most... I have a combined 200 hours on the series, and it's only going to continue. The environments of Dunwall and Karnaca are so densely packed and immersive that they're one of the few linear games I wish would switch to open world simply so I can experience more of it. The gameplay compliments it perfectly. It's my favorite series for a good reason.
I'll never understand people who called Dishonored a disappointment. I still think about Karnaca's gorgeously realized world, and want to go back so bad. While yes, the game did have its flaws, the gameplay and map wasn't one. God, I actually wish I could just walk the streets on Karnaca, and witness it in all its beauty.
@@fatalmokrane Yes, Prey was a wonderful experience, but I don't have quite as much time on it because of how tense it is. As for the open world, I agree with you 100%. Dishonored 2 is around 60gb, and it took several years to create... It's be impossible in today's gaming economy. Maybe if they were given a huge team and a decade or so to fully develop it...
*People are pissed of because litterally every major 2020 AAA game got delayed.* Raycevick: "Games Should Leave You Wanting More" Mate, you are playing with fire...
I'm very greafull they are delayed, I pre-ordered rdr2 on rockstar launcher, because I like their games and been playing them since I was a kid. And rockstar shit the bed with the PC port, I thought the days of broken PC ports were behind us.
It's really a funny feeling that i realised a year ago that the way i "consume" video games is i play a lot of one games and I'm hooked on multiplayer and playing with friends and then completely switch to solo campaigns and don't touch any other games to go back in full force into the multiplayer games. And this video made me realise that is is the feeling of acomplishement is different from games that are made to last for years and one that are made to last days Thanks for this and keep up the good work
Instant gratification in small quantities is why I loved CODMW and it's sequels. I love playing longer deeply involving strategic games. But I still enjoy jumping into shooters for instant gratification.
I’ll never understand your claim that Old Blood has more agency and options than the New Order. Old Blood’s biggest criticism is how restrictive it is when compared to New Order
Really? I haven't seen much of that critique online, and even as such, I very much disagree with it. What I'm referring to when discussing agency is direct control. New Order is an experience that is frequently broken up by cutscenes, cinematic setpieces, and HQ Missions. Meanwhile, Old Blood is far more gameplay driven, and the handful of moments control is taken away from the player, it's still all told through BJ's eyes. Facilitated by the teams lower budget, and tighter schedule.
Old Blood is indeed quite shit compared to New Order. I'd go so far as to say New Order remains the only good game in the entire selection of MachineGames Wolfenstein titles.
When FarCry 3 ended, i didn't want more. I was fulfilled by everything the game had to offer. I was happy to leave the game where it ended. Anything more would have ruined it in my opinion. It was perfect. It's the only exception that comes to my mind...
It's great that you covered many different aspects of the market here, including F2P and multiplayer games, because I believe this has a huge impact on game length. The significant mainstream growth of multiplayer - along with massive budgets and player expectations - mean that a lot of these experiences in the last decade are now designed with a particular interest in hooking players long-term. As a result, I think many expect single-player games at the same price-point to occupy an equal measure of their day-to-day lives. That being said, the 'Over X hours' marketing line has been used before games-as-a-service became so prevalant, so perhaps this is a coincidence. Also, there have been some absolutely wonderful edits tied with music in both this, and your MW Years Later! It gives me an incentive to go back and watch parts again just to catch certain transitions or effects.
This is one reason I'm into indie and small developer games. Innovation is a requirement because without it, their games wouldn't rise above the overpopulated baseline. They often can't be long because they don't have the means or will to stretch interesting mechanics past the point that they become mundane. I'll always have more fun in a game that wraps up succinctly in less than 10 hours of great gameplay and story than I will a game that drags itself to 30+ without comparable value. The issue in mainstream game development is that some publishers now want everything monetized perpetually. Bethesda is particularly egregious as we've seen with recent releases. They expect a game to draw in a long term audience in order to sell them a season pass and microtransactions. Youngblood is the way it is because of that "Gold Bars" purchase option. Had it been better received, it most likely would have gone even further.
Raycevick, this video essay is beautifully written and presented. As someone who shares the same values as you do, I can only hope that this gets the exposure it really deserves. I have nothing else to say. Thanks for this, man!
Thank you, thank you , thank you, THANK YOU! At the risk of sounding like a typical nostalgia junkie, it is sad that "X amount of hours played" is somehow indicative of overall quality these days. POP: Sands of Time is barely ten hours in playtime and it is STILL one of the most moving games I've experienced. No NG+ (I think?), no "postgame khantent" that people seem to demand be in every title. You play the game, progress through the levels, then you finish it. Wanna play it again? Go right ahead. Enjoyed your time with it but want to move on? That's fine too. But industry standards seems to have swallowed these kinds of games up. It's kind of sad, really.
The call out to Mandalore Gaming made me laugh. I watch his content and it satisfies a niche that you fill in a different way Raycevick. Gotta ask, are you two friends/colleagues of some sort? :D
I think this is why I loved red dead 2 so much. Just when you thought it was over, there was an epilogue that was just as fleshed out as any of the other chapters. I was left wanting more and got it! And then I still want more...
I may have played the first two Max Payne games a dozen times each. They're such a perfect length, and I finish them ready to go back in again. They never wore out their welcome, and the thought of going back in never left me wondering if they'd cut into something else. I like big lengthy games. The Yakuza games are delights, even as huge as they can be. But my favorites are the 'fun afternoon' games. The ones where I say "I haven't played that in awhile" and then the rest of my afternoon is revisiting that old digital friend.
Gosh I miss me some Doom, Perfect Dark and Timesplitters. Think I can get all but Timesplitters on me Xbox but still like he said in the video, I enjoy missing these great titles.
Perfect Dark got a great remaster on Xbox 360/One. It may come to pc/Steam too given Halo MCC is. Timesplitters Trilogy deserves a remaster. We might get that.
"Live Service" models demanding that THEIR game become ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of my free gaming time is as appealing as a batshit-crazy girlfriend insisting I pay attention to nothing but her. Especially because sooner or later *they* will ditch ME and then demand I come back to get the sequel. Fuck that.
Man when are you going to give your views on the Stadia(Google shit and cloud gaming). I would love to see it because your narration is fantabulous. Keep up the good work.
The thing is that being four hours is less of a negative in of itself and more of a MASSIVE red flag, like one that stretches through the whole universe because it's so overwhelmingly massive. Before everything became an MMO grindfest everything was a mindless Call of Duty derivative with regenerating health and scripted sequences every nanosecond, even Call of Duty. Back when I was on The Escapist's forums everyone was mocking Homefront before even came out, then we got "it'll be four to five hours" and that confirmed everyone's thoughts about it, and then it came out and proved them completely right. Games with four or five hour campaigns were either Call of Duty ripoffs or Gears of War ripoffs. Games at least try to have a pretence of being games and not movies. Metal Gear Solid, as much as I love it, is a series with a distinct problem of meandering when it comes to cutscenes. Explaining the dark pasts of the characters to explain their behaviour and further characterise them? A good idea. Telling us the exact faulty science of how the Metal Gear is supposed to work even when it's not necessary for the plot (part of MGS1's explanation is plot related, so it gets a pass)? Wasting time. And characters not calling you from outside the game's playable area aren't invincible (and the escort missions work surprisingly well for a stealth game, though the escort mission in MGS2 has it's problems whereas MGS3 corrected most of them). But for all the shit I give it, MGS still remembers that it's a GAME series despite Kojima's belief games aren't on par with movies and gives the player some agency. Later Call of Duty games and their imitators do not. That's why four to five hour campaigns were such a massive red flag, you weren't even seeing a different movie most of the time, you were seeing the same movie with differently named characters and maybe different backgrounds and costumes for the what are basically the same scenes. No matter how many clear shots you have, your bullets don't do anything. In Metal Gear Solid, a game that basically tries to be a movie, with cutscenes immediately after cutscenes because the cutscenes are so long and so many this is not the case. Let that sink in: METAL GEAR SOLID has more restraint on the idea of a being a movie than Call of Duty. Finally, that bit about not longer wait times between games being better, that's why I don't buy Call of Duty games until much later and straight up haven't bought any Assassin's Creed games past Black Flag. CoD to me is a nice time killer, but it's multiplayer isn't that interesting and nor are it's campaigns, so I usually buy them for the campaigns a few years after it's gone down in price. AC on the other hand is just straight up a time sink pretending to be an RPG. The RPG elements aren't there to facilitate different playstyles or character builds like in a real RPG, they're there to waste time so I'll pay to play less of the game, when I can just do that for free. It's also why I'm interested in Beyond Good and Evil 2 despite it having some worrying traits it seems to be trying to cover up with sheer size.
Another great video, Raycevick. You never disappoint. My take on YOUNGBLOOD was that it's a generally enjoyable fps (I was able to get the game at a duscount at launch). Despite it's notable flaws (specifically those at launch that were soon patched and fixed), it delivered flatout fun gunplay, challenge and the way you were able to upgrade and customize weapons was pretty cool. I thought it was a solid game. I actually enjoyed the Terror Twins' juvenile antics, specifically because they were juveniles themselves, which for the the life of me, I could not understand why people didn't get that. People were so up in arms against this game when it released, you'd think Youngblood murdered someone's puppy with the hatred it was receiving, especially when alot of the complaints were downright unreasoanble. The problem I had with Youngblood's detractors was that alot of them hadn't even played the game, yet agreeing with and spreading the false narrative that the game was crap. I literally spoke with tons of people in the comment sections of various channels covering the game, and they outright admitted they never touched the game and only watched video reviews if it, yet they were dictating to ME why the game sucked. Those who claimed to have played the game were grossly overexaggerating, or totally blowing out of proportion, the issues the game did have while ignoring or outright denying any of the game's strengths, to the point that it became absurd just talking to them. I'm all for shitting on a game if it is indeed packed with bullshit, especially at launch, but I'd never jump on a hate bandwagon against it, not unless I could verify it's shittiness from my own direct experience playing it.
Hell, I've replayed Half-Life 2: not even the episodes; multiple times over the last 2 years since I first did, and if I got sick of it it was self-inflicted. Nothing in my completionist mind was left; perfect ammo loot and health save files at the end game, all chapters unlocked, etc. Being the original Xbox version; no collectibles, no achievements, no jerk-off the 100% complete meter anything. In the completionist part of my brain, it was pointless to revisit it; in other words, I played it purely for its own sake, and I only had myself to blame for overexposure.
"When a game sells, companies often jump on the name like it's a squirming chicken. Cutting and cooking it's pieces until only feathers remain on the floor." I don't know why, but I really like this quote
The sad thing is, I loved the story of the Wolfenstein games. I would have loved to continue it. But the grindy, enemies-with-levels nonsense does NOT belong in a Wolfenstein game, and I cannot bring myself to play it. Same reason why I couldn't play Ghost Recon: Breakpoint. I came to this series for extreme gore, a power fantasy, and simple stealth mechanics. I do not want to feel helpless because the scrawny Nazi in front of me has a bigger number next to his name than I do.
Shammy called it 'Play Time Fetishization' and it sums up this video (and my problem with the triple A gaming industry) elegantly. So many of the third generations greatest successes are games I haven't seen through because offering me an open-ended adventure with an average 60 hour playtime isn't exciting, it's daunting. When Watchdogs was rumoured to have 40+ hours of content, I immediately turned away. When the new Modern Warfare drew outrage for a 5 hour story, I got excited. I want to see a conclusion when I hit the beginning so I know I'll have room for whatever whets my appetite next. No one has all the time in the world, and devs need to learn that Saying The Witcher 3 is my favourite game of all time might make me sound like a hypocrite but knowing I could pick it up for three hours at a time and have a guaranteed different adventure each time until it was exhausted made it feel like the line between a movie and a series. Every other game in my top 10 is either a racer, a souls like or an indie title because all of them offer the same compound potential. I like to feel like I'm losing myself in a world I can return to when I'm feeling a certain way and while huge, incomparably meaty titles scratch that itch for some people, it instead makes me feel like there's not enough time to experience everything the wider world has to offer. Short experiences that leave me lusting for whatever the artist cooks up next (Devolver is my favourite studio for this reason) make gaming feel everlasting, mystifying. We need more of that.
Videos with messages like these that you believe in sharing are why more people should have the notification bell for your channel subscription hanging above their bedroom door when they get up in the morning. (Yes I know that directly goes against his point of enjoyment in scarcity and anticipation such like NakeyJakey's uploads but don't lie it'll make you anticipate his next video that much more! :p)
There is a good chance it will, for starters I dabble in level design as a hobby and thus I follow of a lot of professional LDs on twitter and I've recently noticed that quite a few of talented people joined Machine Games. If that's an indication of anything, Wolf3 should be light years ahead of Youngblood and it might even have a chance to top the New Order and The New Colossus if they're gonna do it right
This is why I love the older valve games like Half-Life and Portal, those games don't suck up all my time, and I know that if I go back to them I can have a solid experience for a few hours. I have too much backlog as it is, especially with how many games are being released this year that I am interested in.
Honestly I dont care if the game can keep me going even one more hour or replayability I'll do it it's why I hate "Angry joe" the guys a man child at this point the best thing I like about a game is a game is something in the moment I can enjoy. Replay and remember the game then that's my game And fun fact I play alot of "Shit" games but I enjoyed them XD i guess I'm unique
I used to like Angry Joe, but he became the very soulless corporate enemy he made fun of. Just watch his preview of Terminator Resistance where he throws a baby tantrum over the 1st plasma weapons being red lmao.
Dam man sorry but if you want a concise awnswer. Gamers have been complaining too much and think that one problem. Should be the companies downfall including game time graphics visuals etc.
I love Destiny 2, But the game mechanics that keep telling me to check it out every day has actually kept me from playing it; when I do I feel like I'm doing a chore, not a fun activity.
A 4 hour game isn't negative if the game is sub $15 but you asking $60 for a short game is criminal I have no problems with games being longer if the going price for games is going to be $60
Heyy.aliens did the drag thing but left me wanting something.aliens isolation did leave me wanting more....more control to stop having mini heart attacks from all those alien sheningans and jumps
I think I largely agree. These days I have the problem of "owning too many games" and having such a massive backlog that my chances of ever getting past it all is basically nil.
Wanting more is a double edged sword. If you get something similar or better, it's all worth it. If you get something worse, it could break a franchise
I miss good single player experiences. They seem so hard to come by these days. And yea, Titanfall 2 is still holding strong in my memory....just like my anticipation for The Last of Us Part II.
Yeah. I really want Crysis 4 to be a thing at some point. The graphics were pretty good, but most importantly, the gameplay was just pure fun with the variety of weapons and stealth/armor abilities provided. The story also felt pretty good to play through. My favorite is probably Crysis 2.
I have played "The Witcher 3" on Deathmarch difficulty back in 2017 and completed just the vanilla version of it before touching the DLC. I started a full completionist play through of the Witcher 3 including it's DLCs at the end of 2019. As of today, I have cleared out every point of interest, quests, side quests, treasure hunts in all the maps except the for Toussaint, Blood & Wine (the final DLC's map). As I log in and do whatever goal I have given my timeframe on my schedule, I begin to feel bittersweet. Every time I ride with my horse and see the beautiful endless vineyards and distant castles of Toussaint, I hear the ambient soundtrack of Blood & Wine. Maybe it's because I spent over 500 hours of the game with incredible moments and experience I never got anywhere from a video game, and realizing it's all coming to an end... And I don't want it to end! I yearn for games which give me that kinda of feeling of wanting more, Half Life 2 Episode 2's ending for instance, Titanfall 2, Fallout: New Vegas, The Last of Us, NieR: Automata. These games are among one of those categories, which I can say is "timeless-classic" for me. I can see myself revisiting them every few years to crave my urge of "wanting more" out of them. But sadly, most of them cannot, as I've already experienced what they have to offer...All I can hope is maybe some will get a sequel!
Honestly leaving a game or series on a high still wanting more is never a bad thing, it leaves you with good memories and positivity all round and can inspire the imagination to seek or want to create something similar. As a lover of the Star Wars original trilogy I think we all wanted more of that without demanding the quality stay high, especially as we were denied anything for so long, but what we got for our desires was poor acting in the prequels and creatively bankrupt commercial fodder that's instantly forgettable in the sequel trilogy. Demanding more without the quality and creativity that the original titles contained will inevitably result in little more than glorified map packs and serving little more than fan service, lacking fresh ideas and design to make the experience actually worthwhile.
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CoD: MW's campaign is just like this, it's so fun! I want a sequel. However I am indifferent to the multiplayer so I don't like the initial $100 price tag.
Hey does anyone remember that RU-vidr that Raycevick shouted out a while ago who reviews the overall gun mechanics of a game. He goes over things like weapon handling, impact, sound effects and the like, I remember that one of his videos was on Metro, but I can't for the life of me remember his channel name. Oh and Raycevick, if you really want to be left wanting more as a viewer, you HAVE to check out Ahoy. His upload schedule may be akin to that of Valve's but man are his videos perfection. His documentaries, weapon history videos and investigative journalism are really second to none. (my favorite being Polybius, it's an hour long, but every single minute is time well spent)
You're talking about my friend Clu, and his video series Gunplay. His Max Payne 3 episode is excellent. And yes, I do need to check out Ahoy's more recent content. I still know him as the Weapon Guide Man from the Black Ops days.
Well it cuts both way, plenty of those shorter experiences have shit pacing and dont' give almost-anything any room to breath. CoD is interesting, it's campaigns suffer from the one problem, but their MP suffers from the other ("lifestyle").
This video nicely sums up my feelings about how many games have tried to become time sinks. I have a lot of games I want to play, and a limited amount of time to play them in, so unless a game is really good, I don't want any games that require me to constantly come back. This isn't to say those games are inherently bad - as I write this I'm playing one such game that has managed to give me a unique enough experience to keep me coming back. But the other problem is that there's only room for so many such games. When you can't beat a game and move on to the next, it means that competition is a lot harsher. I feel like, in line with this video, one thing games need to return to is having real replay value. Being good enough and having enough variety that a campaign can be played over and over until the player has had their fill. Personally I have this experience a lot with From Software's games. Sekiro I beat twice in a row, while Dark Souls 3 I beat 3 times in a year. And to go back further, Armored Core For Answer is a game with a story that you can beat in only a handful of hours, but that, between missions I missed the first time, hard mode versions of missions, and replaying missions for S ranks, I had sunk at least 80 hours into the game. If I had had my fill with any of these titles, I could have easily stopped much sooner. But the games had enough to them that I could squeeze more out of them.
Solid pacing (among many other things) is why God of War II is still one of my favorite games of all time. You never spend so much time in any one location that it ever feels like it starts to overstay its welcome--it just flows perfectly from one sequence to the next while seamlessly combining all the combat, platforming, and puzzle elements.
I totally agree. I'd much rather have a shorter, well crafted experience that keeps me wanting more after it's finished, than have a game that's twice as long that makes me dread continuing to play it.
I know you’ve already done a video on Prey, one that I really love, a great video on one of my favourite games of all time, but I think you should return to it for its DLC, Mooncrash, I think there’s potential for a video there
Raycevick there’s so many good things I can say about Mooncrash that have been said before but I think it captures everything a DLC should be. And it’s an amazing addition to the Prey story. I think the only possible way they could have
Raycevick Great video btw, I think this discussion in relation to Young Blood was a really good choice and you made lots of good points, love your vids man Take care
