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That scene in the beginning with the students singing pisses me off, why you may ask? Well it is here that Kawai Miki pretends to start singing, causing Shouko to become confused and sing out of tune. It is later then that Kawai was the chance to swoop in and correct her while others are watching to make her seem like she is good. This is also evidence to her slightly narcissistic personality which is shown many times in the manga (she looks at herself in the mirror and says sumting i forgot). I just had to point that out 😙
True. Ueno’s a piece of shit, but at least she’s honest about how she feels. She doesn’t underhandedly try to make people look bad just so she can come in and play the White Knight.
If that is what people consider ableism, I absolutely agree. It's just that at least among certain people the term "ableism" has, as so many other terms, become overused. Too many people consider any amount of criticism towards disabled people, or any time someone doesn't think about disabled people all the time as "ableist". For example, I was once called by an entire forum "ableist" because I argued that not every single Movie in a theater should have subtitles on the chance a deaf person might be in the audience. Have regular screening with subs? Yes, but not all the time. Now you might agree with this or not, but to call that "ableist" is ridicilious.
@@Comintern1919 well...idk how adding subtitles could harm anything. i know plenty of people who hear perfectly fine and prefer to use subtitles on netflix n stuff bc sometimes they make the music louder than the dialogue
@@dezzydream Oh. I also almost always use subtitles even in languages I speak fluently, even in my native language. But that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what my preference or that of the people you know are. Most people find subtitles distracting. I don't since I grew up reading subs since I was a child due to Anime, but most people don't, and to those who don't, those who aren't used to them, subtitles can take away some of the experience. If you just slap subs on everything those who like subs are happy, but those who don't aren't. If, however, you provide screenings with and without subtitles, mixed, you could please both parties. I do think the screenings with subs should be less often due to people needing them being fewer, but I also think that right know, in most countries I was subtitled screenings are not yet often enough.
@@sabbath5188 that what make people confused. I see most people watched the translated sub then gibberish sub. This is why people don't understand why sub watchers are confused why dub watcher doesn't know if Shouko is actually talk in gibberish or not in Japanese.
16:40 "But we already have some! She only wants you to buy it so she can eat it! I can't believe she made you do that for her!" Ohmygod that was so cute
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honestly, I don't understand the battle that people have between the best version of an anime "sub or dubbed". I've been watching anime for a long time, subbed and dubbed. all I'm saying is, there's no difference to me. There's a strong message in this movie, and it's not like dub changes much. I think, as long as you understand the message of the movie, it doesn't matter what language you watch it in.
People always look down on dub, but take in mind that these are professionals voice actors that are trying there best to convey it to an English audience while still trying to bring the anime justice, yes some are bad not all are the best but it doesn't mean you should down these people just cause you think it's shameful so if you hate dub that's fine but don't publicly shame people for liking it and if you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all..keep your negative thoughts and feels to yourself and go watch some sub then instead of coming to dubbed videos and being mean. (Sorry this just gets to me)
Ive been watching anime a long time and I remember when dubs were so void of expression that subs were the default go to for any self respecting anime fan. Things have changed, dubs are now done professionally and i feel they are superior for native english speakers who have little or no experience speaking japanese. Verbal communication is incredibly complex and expression, enunciation, pacing, etc, all can radically change context. These things are just easier to pick up on in your native language, and now that they are so well done in preserving the artistic intent it's just the way to go unless you know or are learning japanese.
I agree with most of what you said except for early dubs being void of expression. Pokémon dub was amazing considering it debuted in the mid-late 90’s. I grew up watching that and to view that in sub would be weird. You also don’t take into account for scenes being lost in translation. I’ll give you an example. When Nishimiya confesses to Ishida, all he picks up on is “moon”. Not only would that be incredibly difficult to misinterpret that in English (moon and like/love sound nothing alike), your also missing out on some historical Japanese context. I heard from a Japanese person that in ancient times, they confessed their affection by saying “the moon is bright today” or something of that nature. A key example of how the dub can never be as intended 100%. Dub is great for people that aren’t exposed to other cultures. There’s a lot of mental effort that goes into deciphering scenes from foreign films the way it was intended, on the fly. It’s not a crime to be laid back, because most importantly, it’s for entertainment. Could you imagine people saying LoTR dubbed in Japanese is better? Blasphemous right? “One ring to rule them all” just wouldn’t hit me the same way in Japanese, if I understood Japanese.
@@dr.modfehm2040 these all have romance elements. Website - www12.9anime.ru Movies - Your name, Garden of words, Violet Evergarden, A whisker away, 5cm per second, Flavors of youth, Maquia, Patema Inverted, Howls moving castle. Anime - Nisekoi, Love is war, Maidens of the savage, Tsuredure children. Hope this helps.
I agree, the thing is, whenever I watch something like this with my family, I have to watch it subbed because for many animes, there isn't a spanish dub and most of my family have trouble fully understanding english and don't know Japanese, but I agree that it's better to watch it in your first languge when possible
I honestly enjoy the dub of this movie more because, I can enjoy the visuals of the movie more . plus the voice acting in this movie is amazing. P.s I enjoy sub also you can enjoy both .
If some people thought that Chidori was somehow being serious, no. It's normal to not like subtitles at first but if you keep watching (If you want obviously wtf?) you'll definitely going to get used to it basically like learning new shit, at first it's tedious and then it starts to become alot more stable.
Gods plan so the reason why shoya goes “the moon?” Is because ‘love’ and ‘moon’ sound similar in japanese. But in the dub, he hears something like “ilauwyou” and goes... “the moon?” Which obviously dont sound similar at all in english. Idk the dubbed scene just made me laugh there while the subbed scene actually conveyed that there was some misunderstanding.
Pranav Rajupalepu actually in the manga they Spelled it as “Lub Moo” which sounds a little closer to “The Moon” so that’s what they were trying to go for
I love both so much and it's so hard to choose which I like more. For example, the choice of casting someone actually deaf for Shouko really shows how much the dub cares about this movie and adapting it. At the same time, it makes me appreciate the Japanese VA even more since she does an incredible job replicating someone who is deaf. Both casts as a whole are incredible and this movie is a masterpiece.
I prefer the Japanese version because the actor at least tried to sound like a deaf person. Actors pretend to be someone different from them. The English person voicing Shouko is too relatable to her that it is contradictory to call her an actor since she is deaf too.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 No offence but I feel like this is your excuse for hating on dubs. Because although you are right about the subbed voice actor trying her best you don't know that the dub relates to the character so much. Just because she is also deaf doesn't mean she's like a real life version of Shouko. For example I could relate to the character in being bullied (which I wasn't) and maybe 'relate' to her situation but I'm not deaf. and if I was bullied it would be for a completely different reason meaning in different ways too. And you don't know if the voice actor of Shouko was bullied (the dub actor) so being deaf is the only thing she might be able to relate to. Another point; her voice actor is acting. Not just talking for the character. So she is showing emotions for Shouko. So no it is not contradictory to call her an actor.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 your bullshitting to justify your mindset of all Japanese sub being superior. You’re insulting the English Voice actress. Choosing a deaf va is actually a really good decision and allows for much more accuracy
I love the dubbed version because whenever Shoko talks and when they can’t understand her you can vaguely make out what she’s saying which makes its more heartbreaking.
Exactly, this is critical to many points of the movie, especially when the other characters don't understand shoko. You can't write a subtitle for barely being able to understand the sound someone's voice, and misspelling words is a terrible way to try to convey that.
It's exactly the same in the original Japanese language, she speaks a deaf version of it. The fact that you don't perceive Japanese as well as you do English is what makes the difference. The English VA's actually did a great job, but tons of dialogue is off screen without characters mouths actually moving to compensate for the significant difference in dialogue. To each their own, I prefer to watch a movie the way the director intended though. Subtitles are something you can easily train your mind to process while enjoying the visuals after a little bit of practice.
@@savaget2058yes true, you can, but equally having something in your own language is far more impactful to someone than leaning another to understand it. I'm not saying you need to learn Japanese, but it is a general point. Say for instance you read a poem, first in another language you have learnt to speak and you understand it perfectly, but that same poem in your native tounge could make you laugh, or cry or feel huge amounts of emotion. Why? Because our native tongue, our base language is so ingrained into us that it holds the deepest meaning to us when we read it or hear it. That is why dubs are so important, yes you don't always get the perfect meaning across, but then again at the end of the day a sub would not be able to stick up for that same meanining since they still need to translate to another language. But when you have dubs, much like most modern animes, where they put in the emotion the feelings and make it work, you then can be far more impacted by it than you ever would through a sub.
I freaking love how deadpanned and snarky Yuzuru sounds in the dub. You can tell she’s just done with everything, and it really fits her tomboy attitude. 😅
She is just playing as herself. That is not acting/pretending at all. The deaf person might be a good person, but is kind of disrespectful to call her an actor when she is voicing a character that is too relatable to her.
@@LuigiTheMetal64 Oh f off. There's nothing disrespect about calling an actor an actor, even if they're playing a role that is similar to their current situation. Is her name Shouko? If not, then she's acting. What you are doing is even more disrespectful since you fail to see that deaf people can hold normal jobs too and you're patronizing them.
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I weirdly enough like Shouya's English voice much more - not sure what is it about it but he sounds so nice when he is bullying her O.o I still like the Japanese one but he comes off so calm and nice when he is being really horrible.
I just don't like how users in the comments are basically saying the English actor for Shouko is great because she is deaf too. They are implying that being relatable to the characters is acting, which is not. It makes the person just playing as herself, rather than pretending to be someone different from her. I do prefer the Japanese actor because she at least tries to make her voice be broken as a way to assume that is how deaf people talk. She could just talk normal or maybe stay in the same pitch most of the time since there are deaf people who can sound normal.
To me he sounds more like a child in the dub than sub and you can tell how mocking his tone is when he was bullying her, while the sub is also really good but the dub shows how immature he sounds because that's what he was. Immature and he didn't understand anything she was saying (which is normal) but he never even tried to understand and was always quick to assume it was something stupid like she wanted to hold hands with him when she really wanted to be friends and I think the dubbed version made it sound better and more realistic.
Bløømíng Wølf The English voice actor is too relatable to the character. The Japanese actor tried to talk like a deaf person since actors are supposed to pretend.
I feel like the English version is better for the times were shoya was talking,(mostly because I can’t understand Japanese and don’t know how bad it was) Edit: Since multiple people have misunderstood when I say I don’t understand Japanese I mean that when hearing it. Not when reading a sub and knowing what they’re saying. Multiple scenes in the sub I wouldn’t know besides characters getting angry or questioning her that she is speaking bad Japanese. I could never get to the point where I understood where the character was coming from hence my preference of the English dub where I know why she was bullied, why people cringed, and ultimately why she tried to commit suicide.
EzGreatKill YT I mean I don’t know know if her Japanese was bad or total gibberish. To me that could be some person mimicking a accent while speaking Japanese. Or even speaking Japanese. I don’t have any understanding of Japanese so I can only understand by watching it in a language that I know.
Choir Scene Sub 00:06 Dub 00:45 Reading Scene Sub 01:22 Dub 02:00 Can We Be Friends Scene Sub 02:38 Dub 03:13 Desk Fighting Scene Sub 03:48 Dub 05:22 Meeting Yuzuru Scene Sub 06:53 Dub 08:29 Yuzuru At Home Scene Sub 10:05 Dub 10:32 Ueno Catches Up With Nishimya Shouko Scene Sub 11:00 Dub 12:09 Getting Ready To Go Out Scene Sub 13:17 Dub 13:49 Shouko Telling Shouya 'I love you' Scene Sub 14:21 Dub 16:28 Sahara and Shouko 'Change' Scene Sub 18:34 Dub 19:03 Stupid/Moron Signing Scene Sub 19:33 Dub 19:56
Okay big weeb here and declare then equal gotta give the English voice actors not many people put in their best effort but they did here and I appreciate it
That scene in the classroom when shouko is cleaning the desk and they start fighting when she yelled “I’m trying my best” I could not stop crying for a good 20 mins this anime is so good man I’ve never cried sm over an anime till now
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First off I don’t understand how young shouya wants to act all tuff but can’t beat an innocent deaf girl in a fight. I watched the dub btw. I think this movie is so damn powerful, how brutal the early scene are, they were so fucking heartbreaking and hard to watch, but for anyone wondering, it’s like that the whole movie. It’s totally worth a watch
I personally watch sub because I feel as if the dub voice just doesn’t feel right for the character most of the time and awkward too. But I do understand why some people watch dub because it’s their preference or because they want to be able to embrace the entire screen without having to look at the bottom for translations.
@@Wafi-ig4jk They meant it like, "Why? Shouko's voice actress in the dub is actually deaf." not "Why is Shouko's voice actress in the dub actually deaf?"
What makes the dub impressive is that they got a legitimate deaf voice actor to dub Shouko What makes the sub impressive is that they got a voice actor to replicate a deaf person’s voice to dub Shouko
I guess this is one of few animes which sounds and feels almost the same as the original version. After seeing this I want to check the dub version too.
this is why i love both subbed and dubbed anime. both the VAs can take the same scene and make it so amazing, plus you can get the different emotions from what they say. So something in subbed may sound so depressed but in the dubbed it can sound so emotion filled and regretful, but you can still feel the emotion and pain in both.
The dub was well-done in this movie The confession scene was extremely cute yet saddening at the same time, did they ever end up being together??? It's a great movie no matter what language it's in. Does anyone remember the dub for the anime "Ghost Stories" or something like that
I personally like the subbed v. I usually like to go for the original to get a better understanding of how the characters are actually feeling since translating in the dubbed versions might change the expressions of the characters. The dubbed v. is not bad! I just prefer the original.
I was just looking up dub scenes since I want to watch with my sister but she doesn’t like sub and I’m pleasantly surprised. The voice actors are actually pretty dang good
In a film like this, to truly get a feel for Shoko, you have to hear it in your native language, because if you're not a native speaker of one language of the other, you won't get the same feel and understanding. If I was a Japanese native and my main language was Japanese, the English one wouldn't really work for me, but because I'm an english native, Shoko in Japan doesn't sound different from the other characters, so I don't actually get the same sense as what's going on.
I prefer the dub, it sounds just so much more realistic and adorable; it's like you can understand what she's saying and it feels like there is more deaf emotions you can feel whenever she talks. (Not to mention the voice actor is actually deaf too)
I watched the sub and dub version. I usually prefer sub, but the dub version of this movie is really great and I enjoyed it better. But the sub ver. really fooled me that Yuzuru is a boy HAHAHA
I had this strange Chance of luck, when I was super young probably second grade or first grade, there was this girl who was deaf and talk like her from the beginning, I didn’t just think what was wrong with her, I came up with a conclusion all by myself, then ask the teachers to confirm my theory, my theory was “she had a different level of hearing and the ability to speak, so when she speaks it’s normal to her but when I hear it, it sounded quite odd to me.” Of course my little mind didn’t properly think how it said it in here, but in this term and not in a nutshell. This is how I thought of this deaf girl in a young age.
Iv watched both subbed and dub and honestly while my default would probably be subs I will whole heartily admit that this is one of the best dubs in anime with it still conveying the emotions and tone of the movie and not much dialogue is changed and when it is it almost if ever changed the meaning behind their words
Honest opinion, it's way better dubbed. Maybe it's cause they had an actual deaf voice actress which goes a long way, though I think the other English voice actors did an amazing job as well.
sub is good so is dub too for thid movie, being half japanese n half black i can understand both languages, tho sub one is real good if u know japanese, but it lacked hard on subtitles there's even parts that are cut off and translated to other less powerful words, Dub one is great tho ngl.
@@Gabriel-jg5wh yeah but some people who watch this movie on Netflix got a full translation instead of gibberish translation. That's why they were confused if Shouko was talking normally or talking in gibberish. It's sad tho ngl
I've seen the movie is both languages, and unless you're a sub extremist, I would highly recommend the dub. You really can't go wrong with it. All the performances match those given in the original Japanese. I even think one of the dub's VAs actually has an edge on one of the Japanese VAs, and I'm talking about Mrs. Nishimiya (Shouko's Mom). I found myself actually disliking how she was played in Japanese, for her performance in the English is much more threating and delivers the character better. The performance in the Japanese in contrast to that isn't bad, but I'm not scared of her. It's just the run of the mill anime mom VA.
Omg they worked really hard on the dub, usually i dont like dub for one reason, the voice just doesn't fit the character for me idk, sometimes it does, but wow they really put a lot of thought and consideration into this one, i love it!
Yknow, I would have liked to see a second movie to see the rest of what happened with Shoya and Shoko, the first time I watched this movie it made me tear up. I watched it again to try to see more clear details about shoya and his life. I noticed that he was just trying to fix what he had destroyed in the past namely friendship. So I kind of realize why he was always “on edge” or whatever
Well at least you don’t hate the dubbed but ye I disagree since I don’t know Japanese and I could actually see what’s happening and I just love the fact that the deaf girl was voice acted by a deaf girl. Either way yeah.
I liked the sub more because of the effort of Hayamin to voice Nishimiya, but i also appreciate the dub because the voice actor who voiced Nishimiya was actually deaf and i like the fact that the directors (or dub writers i guess because i don't know much about the voice acting industry) also appreciate talents that are PWD Edit: sorry for the bad english
