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A Woman’s Reaction to "The Rational Male" by Rollo Tomassi (Part 2) 

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@danielm1
@danielm1 4 года назад
Interesting to hear it from a woman's prespective. Would also be interesting to see you and Rollo have a discussion about it.
@Richjunior1
@Richjunior1 4 года назад
A man that is being ruled by his penis will be ruled by a female
@dontmindmejustwatching
@dontmindmejustwatching 3 года назад
Yeah, the problem we have now is that too many men conditioned to behave like a woman and too many women are conditioned to behave like a man.
@AB-ec6vw
@AB-ec6vw 4 года назад
I like one thing you said in this video "My husband doesn't feel that he has to play games with me or trick me or manipulate me......he knows he is the ONE in charge and I KNOW he is the ONE in charge and he knows I KNOW he is the one in charge" That itself is what differentiate a good material girlfriend/ wife from the rest of females. That what a man looks in a woman to build a relationship.
@todds.6028
@todds.6028 4 года назад
Of COURSE he doesn't feel that he has to play games. Why? Well, she explained it at the beginning of the video. Literally at the 0:08 mark: "My husband is very likely one of these 'natural alphas'..." That's it. That's the reason. The end. If he WASN'T a "natural alpha", but rather a typical beta male, then she WOULD be playing all SORTS of mind games (aka shit tests) with him and their relationship would be just another typical dysfunctional union. Trust me. She's no different from any other woman. It's just that she was able to hitch her wagon to what sounds like a top 10-15% Alpha male. And by the way, I'm certainly not denigrating her for that. On the contrary! Good for her!
@clayandputtyvideos1647
@clayandputtyvideos1647 4 года назад
Why does the man have to be "in charge"??
@harshdeep98
@harshdeep98 4 года назад
Clay And Putty Videos feminist alert
@templarmalta9946
@templarmalta9946 3 года назад
Yep a woman that is complimentary to you and not in competition with you.
@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837
@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837 3 года назад
@@templarmalta9946 You mean a woman who permanently compliments you, caters to you and says "I agree" to everything you say. Okidoki.
@bfgjrofficial5030
@bfgjrofficial5030 3 года назад
This was a fantastic video. I’ve recommended that my male friends watch this so they can see an actual rational and wise woman expose key facts about game. Some things I wasn’t aware of like the woman neeeding to “kiss frogs before she finds her prince” which will be super helpful when I need to teach my possibly future daughter game, and it’s very reassuring to hear from a woman that I need to be patient and keep raising my value. Thank you.
@fariqnazir9138
@fariqnazir9138 4 года назад
Seriously, Rollo & you ( I don't know your Name though) are blowing my mind like hell. Thank you heart to heart!
@tbserrano2
@tbserrano2 4 года назад
These interpretations are gold! Confirming a lot that I've learned from Rollo so far. Good videos!
@davidmares6053
@davidmares6053 4 года назад
awesome to have your perspective. Thank you!
@captrodgers4273
@captrodgers4273 3 года назад
i agree with your assessment. im definatly not a natural born alpha. and i was definatly not raised to be one. in fact i was raised to be a "gentilemen" all the way to my mid 20s i simped my way thru life and got burned over and over and over again. it want untill i experimented bdsm that i got my eyes opened. bdsm is an oversimplified,complete honest in your face guide to how some if not most women like to be treated.and while you cannot translate it exactly to a normal life i did learn some important key values i just simply didnt have..... i learned the value of being in charge and controling the flow of life i guess you can say. i learned to say this is what were going to do instead of asking. i learned that i am the centerpeice to any relationship im in and that a girlfriend is there to share and compliment my life. its been a long road but i think i got it. i now have a girlfrind who so far is awesome and compliments me and i compliment her too.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 3 года назад
I’m happy it worked out for you.
@ChristopherGeneva
@ChristopherGeneva 4 года назад
pretty smart women, was ready for bashing but it was fair
@JPeraltavideos
@JPeraltavideos 4 года назад
I recently got dumped and found the red pill community. What a valuable book review, I made many of the mistakes mentioned in the video and I also have considered doing the plate spinming but my shyness and lack of confidence stops me from doing it. I am going to do it, I had already come to the conclusion that if I want to improve my social skills grtting out there is the only way
@n.s.1496
@n.s.1496 4 года назад
Subbed. I cant wait to take good notes on your videos!
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Nickeleye Awesome. Thank you. Have you read the book yet?
@n.s.1496
@n.s.1496 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 I am actually on book two right now. Not gonna lie this stuff has been mad helpful. I was fortunate enough to internalize the content before I met my current lady. Its fun watching her eyes glow at me in that "oh yes he gets it!" kinda way. Please keep making content because you are great! Love the way you talk about the Red Pill.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Nickeleye Thank you. I will. :)
@atheplummer
@atheplummer 3 года назад
IMHO Neg hits is a rather simple concept once you understand the simple concept that "Men give each other shit... and don't mean it. Women give each other compliments.... And don't mean it". So, knowing that, and as an evolutionary marker, in that women had to find male nature attractive, and the fact that men give each other shit... in teasing or 'hazing', it would be natural for a man to tease her also. Unfortunately, ever since the feminine primacy in the culture has taken hold... Young men have been trained to not haze or tease anyone. I remember back in the 90's it became illegal for college pledges to be hazed by the upper classmen for entrance into fraternities. Also, if you've ever spoken to a military drill Sargent, they have a whole bunch of 'rules' now, that they can't do certain things when training recruits. So, to the 'natural Alpha', as Rollo describes him, is one that didn't care to comply with the female social order and followed HIS nature, and therefore is attractive to women. When little boys who get bullied in grade school get into trouble, for defending themselves from the bully, just as the bully.... He learns very quickly that he has 100% responsibility and 0% authority in his life.... That has carried on throughout his life, with marriage, and parental authority. Marriage as it is understood today, is an unconscionable contract, due to the family courts and domestic violence laws. (thanks Duluth Model power wheel, which is a giant shit test by women to control men)...
@johnmathew8543
@johnmathew8543 3 года назад
By far the most heartfelt like I gave a video. For the ego boost part.
@ExclusiveEventRentals
@ExclusiveEventRentals 2 года назад
This was actually really informative and not expected. Thank you for this content! Being a stripper may have numbed some of your feminine sexual strategies. Only thing is, the “PUA’s” that you mentioned you moved on from for the more Alpha guys are not truly red pill. They will act and go through the motions however still harness beta energy and you will smell it a mile away. That’s why you said you moved on in the first place. Those guys aren’t just going to go “spinning more plates”. You are a plate of The Alpha guy you went to. He did those same red pill behaviors, just naturally. Being red pill is an understanding and is a use of tools, not an ideology or PUA skill set.
@glennguzla
@glennguzla Год назад
I completed agree with you! 100% of alpha men have multiple women. It’s engraved in their DNA, and as long as they are straight-forward about, women will accept them and accept his male nature to be with many women!
@atreyfall3812
@atreyfall3812 3 года назад
In spain there is a pickup artist youtuber called Mario Luna that say. Act like you were high value until you are. I think it's the better idea to approach pickup.
@emi-bs9rv
@emi-bs9rv 4 года назад
Love the raw honesty you deliver, I literally agree to all of your ideas. Keep it up❤️✨
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Thank you!
@liquidlogic7426
@liquidlogic7426 4 года назад
Nice job!
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Liquid Logic Thank you :)
@flyswatter45
@flyswatter45 4 года назад
Natural alphas are very rare. Most men have to learn this stuff. The natural alpha types are at an advantage when it comes to women and nearly 100% of women are only interested in this small subset. The state of men is at an all time low.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Daniel Borrie I can’t remember where exactly, but I think Tomassi touched on that in the first chapter of the book. The idea is, all human beings are socialized by other human beings. Guys who are eventually called “natural alphas” start out in life as babies like everyone else, and then their social experiences slowly mold their behavior as they grow up. Things like being physically attractive probably affect this, because they have greater opportunities to have positive social interactions with women. The thing is, the amount of practice a man has in talking/flirting with women really affects how well he does with women. I made a video (ages ago) about how the old men who come into strip clubs can be some of the most charming. They have the most practice. I think social intelligence affects it, too, but how much of that occurs naturally and how much is learned? My husband (very natural with women) was raised by his grandparents, and his grandmother is incredibly socially gifted. No matter where she goes, she meets someone she knows. He says it used to drive him nuts because he’d want to go on a simple errand and she’d be stopping to chat. Now that he’s an adult, he’s incredibly socially skilled. He can start a conversation with virtually anyone effortlessly. When I asked him about it (I’m about as socially intelligent as a rock lol) he said it’s just practice. You get used to how conversations should flow and it becomes natural. So I’d say it’s debatable how many natural alphas are really “natural” or even what it means to be natural. I think many women don’t want to know about their mate’s awkward adolescent beginnings. They want him to pop into the world “just getting it” but I think it’s quite possible that there are no men at all who actually start out “just getting it”.
@flyswatter45
@flyswatter45 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 Wow, thanks for the insight. I'll keep following the channel.
@everopeneye3290
@everopeneye3290 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 A main part i believe is most guys these days are raised by single mums and most teachers are female so they get next to no positive male role models
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
EverOpenEye That’s a big part of it. Fathers are huge in a child’s healthy social development, and at the same time women contemplating divorce are repeatedly told that it won’t negatively effect the kids.
@Richjunior1
@Richjunior1 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 You are another delusional woman. Who is going to pay for all the dates?? Who has the time to be dating all the women just to settle for one. Hypergamy for men is never getting into a long term relationshit period. This whole modern feminist 'experiment' is collapsing under the weight of its own incoherence and hypocrisy Most of them are collapsing under their own weight
@marisawood1285
@marisawood1285 3 года назад
Thank you.
@theotherway1639
@theotherway1639 3 года назад
This book pairs well with "The Man's Dating Decision Notebook" by Guru Notebooks. It's a guided inquiry notebook for men.
@airadaimagery692
@airadaimagery692 4 года назад
You do realize that Tomassi is not a PUA right?
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
1k horsepwr Yes. But he discusses PUA and hypergamy and women’s sexual psychology. So that’s why I’m reviewing his book.
@airadaimagery692
@airadaimagery692 4 года назад
OakLeavesAndOnions I gotcha.
@remoteportal
@remoteportal 4 года назад
Been dying to hear what women thinks about this awesome book.
@bobbelcher7352
@bobbelcher7352 4 года назад
I really enjoyed your take on this, however, I don't think it's as clear cut and simple as boys/men have been oppressed by feminists to behave anti-masculine or anti-man like. For one, my father has always been very beta male like, and he's obviously quiet old now. He grew up away from the city and didn't have a particularly feminine outlook as, he often shot guns with the boys and he's worked in a fairly competitive male industry with plenty of guys. I personally think the alpha/beta dichotomy is a little more complex than it seems. I don't think we can discredit the journey beta males go through, anywhere in your life that brings conflict and emotion and struggle will always build growth as a byproduct, the fact that your husband "just got it" would suggest that he has other areas in his life that he's probably a bit inexperience in, I don't think there's ever any "pinnacle male" or female for that matter. I know a female with very "masculine" personality traits (dark triad and highly disagreeable), and I don't consider her any less feminine. I think it's a little more complex to just rule out beta males as being girly to some extent. Some of the material in the pickup community actually talks about body language and being in-tune with your emotional states and your body, where female models interact with guys and get their feedback, my point here is, your saying men are being more girly but in-fact some of that pickups stuff suggests your husband is quiet in-tune with his emotional side and his body. Often the highly analytical males that work in their head all day are "turned off" in the body, and I wouldn't call them "feminine" men. Also, as a random side note, I don't mean to freak you out or anything, but if a guys being upfront that he wants access to his sexuality in it's entirety, why wouldn't he cheat. My ex-boss was alpha and has cheated on all his wive's. That's the exact concept of being "alpha". I mean, to think that he'd "turn that off" once he wants to settle down is the exact same fairy-tale. Just look at the statistics on hypergammy. A quote from an article on cheating - "If you don't "make-it" until your 40, your more likely to build up a measure of restraint and humility that prevents you from infidelity. The common thread among the rich and famous is that their used to having whatever they want" - I don't see how this is any different from natural alpha's. While beta's are developing themselves, females are aging and lowering in their sexual market value, this seems like a natural equilibrium on the other side of things. I only mention this to highlight the fact that life is very complicated and there is no ideal male or female. Great video though.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Bob Belcher Thank you. You’re probably right. It’s not necessarily just trained behaviors, although the campaign against “toxic masculinity” has only exacerbated the problem. But it’s not so much a matter of being “girly” as being “not in the category of potential mates” or “not in the category of beings that could cause me to get pregnant with offspring.” So instead we’re “just friends” and the nature of our relationship becomes similar to the one I share with women. I probably should find a better wording....
@bobbelcher7352
@bobbelcher7352 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 Thanks for the reply. I completely get where your coming from, I'm 30 and up until the last 6 months I was a typical beta male, although I do have a girlfriend. It all suddenly clicked for me, and I do have that natural tenancy to show sexuality to women and I've now realized how many women look at me now. I breath deeply from my gut, talk only when I want to and in whatever frame I chose, I'm now naturally have my shoulders back and have piercing eye contact. I once got sexual vibes from a worker at a coffee shop just from using piercing eyes along, it was actually kinda funny, she ended up giving me extra food than what I'd ordered, but I fully get how to naturally sink into it now that I have strong self esteem. I also had a few funny interactions with women when I just outright tell them what to do without asking. But due to my personality I often find that life in general is just far more complicated than theories can allow for. I actually find this a lot with women funnily. I've had some very negative interactions with women in the last 6 months because they have personally had abuse from men. I just subscribed to your channel, I look forward to the future content.
@checkingonjack
@checkingonjack 3 года назад
The Rational Male isn't about PUA has almost nothing to do with PUA, and yet that's what you go on about for 30 minutes.
@2tooful
@2tooful 3 года назад
Because rollo touches on it in a few chapters, rollo says he isn’t PUA but he shares info and cites some PUAs as sources
@VoiceOfThe
@VoiceOfThe 4 года назад
Why can’t more women get it like you.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Music - The Voice Of The Soul My parents were very academic about sex ed lol. I grew up pretty withdrawn from society and consuming a lot of National Geographic. In college I signed up for this new class they were offering. I was told it was “fascinating” and “all about human sexuality” so it was right up my alley. It was called “Gender Studies”. (I’m sure you know how that went down.) Damn, that was a disappointing class. We studied the female gender a ton, and we spent considerable class time delving into the scant (at that time) documentation on “between” genders. And we didn’t talk about men. I mean, the women in the class complained about men plenty, but we didn’t talk about male sexuality at all. I was 18ish at the time. My parents had always told me I wasn’t allowed to date until I was 18, so I thought having a better understanding of male sexuality would really help me. But, no. Just an entire class where women sat around bitching about how men and the patriarchy were to be blamed for everything. (I very quickly learned that none of the “fascinating” classes that were offered at my college were nearly as informative as they claimed to be when you sign up for them.) So I quit. Back to the National Geographic documentaries on human sexuality. There are some pretty good ones out there. And then I became a stripper and had entire strip clubs full of men to observe in a very sexual context. By the time I read Tomassi’s book, it just made sense. Which technically doesn’t answer your question, but it kind of does, too.
@VoiceOfThe
@VoiceOfThe 4 года назад
OakLeavesAndOnions Interesting hearing that. I knew some of your background from reading other comments as I’m working through your videos. Well, you could say you’ve had an unconventional approach to understanding the male species lol, either way it’s worked.
@templarmalta9946
@templarmalta9946 3 года назад
Because it appears and at a guess, she was largely insulated from the bullshit of female gender dynamics and appears to be from a conservative educated background and she probably had a strong male figure at home. The fact she went stripping through which she discovered her power and sexuality shows she was a blank slate trying to find her place, completely unconventional but I'd also say repressed sexuality as well. Ultimately she has gravitated back towards what she knows. Strong male figures. This sort of woman in today's day and age is hard to find. They are out there which goes back to watch Rich Cooper says you need to date a lot of women before you find her.
@ericlarousse1149
@ericlarousse1149 4 года назад
Is this what you "win" by being a natural alpha?
@adamc8781
@adamc8781 3 года назад
It really is. This is the part they don't tell you about...
@flyswatter45
@flyswatter45 4 года назад
Rollo mentioned you in a podcast with Rian Stone.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Daniel Borrie I think I saw that one. The iron rules of Tomassi?
@flyswatter45
@flyswatter45 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 yes, that was the one. I think his hesitancy was your sub count (which shouldn't be an issue really) but I'm sure at some point he would chat. He has chatted to Venker
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Daniel Borrie Umm... I don’t know many folks. Who’s Venker?
@flyswatter45
@flyswatter45 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 Suzanne Venker. Hes mostly just chatted with men in the manosphere, particularly around his time with 21c, but hes started branching out and talking to other audiences.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Daniel Borrie Ah. Okay.
@minmaxshorts
@minmaxshorts 4 года назад
Hey I just wanted to say that you're a cool person. Wish you all the best to you and your husband.
@David-zt4qe
@David-zt4qe 4 года назад
Personally playing the game just dating is far more fun then being in a dole relationship. But if that's your thing cool I just get really board after awhile very good advice here thanks.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Depends on the relationship. If she’s exciting, and you find yourselves doing exciting things together, and you know that you tend to have fun when you’re around her, it’s much harder to get bored. If she’s just there to be pretty, dude, it’s hard to imagine not feeling bored. What’s the point? She’s a decoration at that point, not a person.
@David-zt4qe
@David-zt4qe 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 Yea I mean she's kind of a plan Jane with a capital B half the time. But two kids 9 and 11 I am trying to make sure they have a good childhood. I told her if I wasn't happy after they were grown I was going to move on. I have had females tell me I shouldn't wait but I am thinking of the well being of our responsibility with the kids. I had both parents growing up and I want our two to have the same to have the best out come.
@titaniumrubber8472
@titaniumrubber8472 4 года назад
Guys getting dating advice from women is not the place you want to start.
@jimcol4986
@jimcol4986 3 года назад
2500 men... Wow!
@BeOutstanding
@BeOutstanding 4 года назад
Great Content Thank You Fun leads Act like man Flir Proc
@keithagee8972
@keithagee8972 8 месяцев назад
Being in charge is standard; to the point. yes..?
@olafheinz8586
@olafheinz8586 4 года назад
This video and especially her first on this series... Keeping foodbuying orbiters around to be "buddys and friends". Talking about how man have to be old and gotta have a benefit, knowing things and being capable to handle different situations, in other words useful established men for her to find them attractive (not arousing). This IS the epiphany and finding god and being (or posing as) a special woman-phase Also at around 29:22 . Isn't that you being dishonest and deceptive? Knowing that those guys want some from you, but still keeping them around, even flirting? A guy never wants to be your bestie-girlfriend. They all want into your pants. You are a woman, handle the truth. Bluepill-conditioned to think otherwise.
@templarmalta9946
@templarmalta9946 3 года назад
Great talk but she does have competition anxiety. If another woman or women started hitting on her man she'd be competritve in a heart beat. Anxiety may not be the right word "unease" is probably a better description. She also confuses it as competing with women as opposed to competing for her husband with women. Or if her husband started showing interest in another woman then she'll be subject to it.
@atheplummer
@atheplummer 3 года назад
Yes, she does have competition anxiety, all women do... Even if the man she's hitched her wagon to isn't necessarily all that 'alpha'. This is where the concept of 'Dread' comes into play. There are two types of dread. Active and passive. Her husband probably exhibits enough passive dread to keep her 'trying to keep him'. However, once another woman actively flirts with him in front of her, I'll bet she gets both jealous and aroused by the interaction. When my ex was getting difficult to deal with, I'd take her out to eat, I'd purposely flirt with the waitress(or any attractive woman we'd encounter), engage her, make her laugh, etc. When we got home, she couldn't wait to get busy with me, and she would be fine again.
@johnmathew8543
@johnmathew8543 3 года назад
Men would be happy to be monogamous with a woman who understands that a man is going against his nature to be in a monogamous relationship with her and does things to satisfies his decision to be in monogamy and tries to not let him wander like you did. But it's rare.
@titaniumrubber8472
@titaniumrubber8472 4 года назад
Your husband is a Natural alfa. Haha . Thats why he got married.😂
@nomadardan
@nomadardan 3 года назад
exactly what i was thinking :P so funny.
@2tooful
@2tooful 3 года назад
So what? There are natural blue pill alphas that are NOT red pill aware, even rollo mentions it in his podcasts
@titaniumrubber8472
@titaniumrubber8472 3 года назад
Rollo kook suckers. Dum
@2tooful
@2tooful 3 года назад
@@titaniumrubber8472 oh no you’ve insulted me 😢 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7ODcC5z6Ca0.html
@thetruthwillsetyoufree112
@thetruthwillsetyoufree112 3 года назад
at 20:00 ... I will be better off finding a woman who will be monogamous towards me, while not only do I get to be with other women, without that influencing her behavior in our relationship, but also SHE will find women for me
@Suchen_Wahrheit
@Suchen_Wahrheit 4 года назад
20:55 you keep repeating "do not need to sleep with those women" 😂. Men will never give up the opportunity to sleep, if the women met his least beauty standard. That's just biology, please don't judge.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
sundar prasad It’s not that you shouldn’t sleep with women. (Although, there are plenty of religious men who might need to be reminded that these ideas can still be put into practice without a ton or premarital sex.) I think it’s more that men put too much emphasis on sleeping with women and neglect other important things. So, in the beginning of relationships, men sleep with the women too quickly and don’t take the time to vet the woman as a good long-term partner. It kind of goes back to the “never put you d!ck in crazy” rule. How do you know she’s not crazy if you sleep with her right away? And even if she isn’t crazy, how are you going to build a strong relationship with her if the only thing you two have between you is some bedroom fun?
@zakariahasaan2847
@zakariahasaan2847 3 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 You release the nut and have your dopamine feeling... after that, you vet her
@Ematuresco
@Ematuresco Год назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 men and women want the same things, but the order of importance is flipped. So for men, first things first - to validate. Think about it :) If she ain't compatible in the most important thing, her other qualities want catch up.
@chrisclayton584
@chrisclayton584 4 года назад
I really appreciate your review of TRM. After listening to this video, what is your definition of a very alpha man? There is so many definitions of alpha. Thanks
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Chris Clayton I think a woman’s definition of alpha is kind of like the definition of porn “you know it when you see it.” Which isn’t really helpful at all. I think the reason there are so many different definitions that men use is because there are so many different men, and a man seeking to be alpha is naturally going to fare best by playing to his strengths. I knew one man who was really brawny, aggressive, impulsive and showy. His girlfriend told me she was with him because she felt that he was equipped to survive in the harsh world she’d come to know. My husband on the other hand was small, wiry, witty and calm. I found him much more attractive because he seemed to me to be the kind of man who was smart enough to work out a solution to any of the emergencies the world might throw at him. In demeanor and physicality these men were almost complete opposites. If I had to find elements that both of them shared, the first would be that neither of them was afraid of women. I think the whole “be yourself” trend that’s become so unhelpful now originally started as a gentle reminder to talk to women calmly and naturally and at least put forth the appearance that they aren’t nearly as intimidating and unnerving as they can be. The second thing I think they had in common was the fact that the women who chose to sleep with them did so because they seemed like they were capable of handling themselves well when the shit hit the fan. Those are the two most immediate things I can think of.
@chrisclayton584
@chrisclayton584 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 that's one of the best answers I've gotten. Basically, a man who can take care of business and protect. When you ask this question in the man community you either get laughed at or you get an explanation with $10 words or they don't know. I like how your taking the RM book and breaking it down into laymen terms. I believe you have a nitch in filling in the cracks about this stuff. It would also be awesome if you went onto Rollo's show too. I'm subscribing and keep up the good work!
@burnsyodice3049
@burnsyodice3049 4 года назад
alpha is simply this. owning the essence of who you are. alpha does as alpha wants. alpha is a mindset not a demographic or a physical look. being alpha has nothing to do with being moral or rich or anything, a saint can be alpha, a broke high school lifeguard can be alpha, a billionaire can be alpha a billionaire can also be very beta. girl rejects alpha who cares alpha does as alpha wants, it doesnt bother them if anyone accepts who they are and what they like and want. alpha is not about being jerks or dicks to women its just that you dont care. girl doesnt wanna go a date, who cares, girl youre on date with doesnt like your car, who cares.
@atheplummer
@atheplummer 3 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 Simply put.... Confident competence. If a man is competent in his life, and has the confidence in doing so, women find that extremely attractive. That's actually why Mystery Method's 'Peacocking' works so well. A man who is confident enough to wear something that (what I call) "Pushing on the edges", of normal attire, women find that arousing.
@thewayofpiece5726
@thewayofpiece5726 3 года назад
Great job! I wanted to share some thoughts about it. Well to start let’s look at a man or masculinity. I’ve often thought here of late maybe nobody really knows what being a man is. Some of you so called Alpha men really are not so great to me. Most I’ve been around have a lot of pride, to much. Some have a bad attitude or act like a jerk. In some ways they are insecure. I don’t even like being around someone like that. Now you can’t forget the man who is a narcissist. I’ve been around a lot of these people and they are actually very insecure but they hide all this by being what looks like a confident Alpha like person. The ones I’ve seen can pick up women easily. No problem they are amazing at controlling there space and come across as a very attractive , confident, outgoing and successful person. The problem is most of them can’t keep a woman. It’s what happens at home in the long run that hurts them. I don’t like being around narcissist Because they lack empathy in a big way. Also they can make fun of you or use you to there benefit. You have to really set good boundaries with these type people. I’ve known and seen what I would call a real man. Usually he has a good balance of different qualities. He is kind and has empathy. He has confidence and can lead if he needs to. He is friendly but can turn aggressive and be very bold and direct when he has to be. Something real important here, a man is the kind of person who let’s say is teaching a course of some sort and has a student who does something in the class badly, the man looks and is honest and says hey that really looked like crap man. Here is the important part the very next words out of his mouth should be but that’s alright because we are going to make it right. I’m going help you and teach you and you will make it. That’s a man someone who lifts his fellow man up. Not put him or others down. Other than that I think the top quality in a man that women love most is confidents. A lot of confidence in his self and what he does day to day. I will say we men have feelings and we hurt just like everyone else. We experience emotions like others. Most men are taught to hide your feelings and ignore how you feel. The older generation of men were trained from a young age to be tough turn your feelings off. Really they list 6 different types of men. The Alpha, Beta, Gamma, omega, delta and sigma. I’m not 100 percent sure where I would fit in because I come up kinda in hard way emotional wise and I’ve struggled a lot in different areas. I’m not a Alpha because I hate to lead. However I can lead and have done it but honestly it’s not my cup of tea. I agree with not sleeping with all the women we take out or these plates as the book calls them. People argue that sleeping around is good but I’ve known people that’s done this and believe me it didn’t help there cause. It really and truly is not a good choice. It’s good to get out and interact with women for sure. That’s definitely going to help. If I may let me recommend a book that I’m over halfway finished reading. Zan perrion The Alabaster Girl. Zan is amazing, you might have a hard time reviewing the book but his approach to women is unique compared to most. He is awesome I would definitely recommend this book. Some called him the worlds greatest seducer of women. He dedicated his life to understanding women. I shouldn’t recommend this but it does fit the subject. If you turn the tables and want to dig into the submissive man I’m going to go on a limb and recommend a book from 1870 that was supposed to be about love. It’s called Venus in furs by Leopold von sacher Masoch. It’s actually a pitiful story but it’s a lot of treasure in it that absolutely no one has ever seen. It shows a picture of how a woman would most likely feel about a submissive man who worships her. The more he acted the way he did the more she despises him for it. I don’t know the book is far fetched and a sad story but I think it’s worth looking into. It does have a lot of truths in it. Hate to give you a waded up Long novel comment but just sharing some thoughts. I’m enjoying your work. Thank you!
@thewayofpiece5726
@thewayofpiece5726 3 года назад
Oh another note. I said I don’t like to lead but however in the relationships I’ve been in for the most part I’d say I was leading but far as in life I just don’t like to lead but I can. It just burns me out lol. I’d like to say I’m improving day by day far a person.
@clayandputtyvideos1647
@clayandputtyvideos1647 4 года назад
Nah. When a man bullies me I find him weak minded. The other day a man in a chat room bullied me severely making me feel ugly and depressed so I called him out on it and he said he was teasing me. This happened several times. I find that so weak and pathetic when men bully a woman and it's just wrong to bully anyone. They think in their minds that they are being sexy by bullying me. How twisted and confused this all is. I guess many women find it hot or they feel the need to Prove to him that they are attractive and that's why they give into it. I see this all over the place from A to Z in all kinds of variations and severity levels. I'm a highly sensitive person INFJ and there is no way that I would Ever let a man who bullies me anywhere near me. I see them as losers in basements. I need a strong minded man who is loving and compassionate and who treats me with respect and love.
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Clay And Putty Videos You’re an INFJ? I was an INFP all through my teenage years! It changed (very gradually) over to INTP as I got into my late 20s. I have no idea if that’s weird or not, but that’s beside the point. Yes, some men really botch the playful teasing thing. I’ve got a guy on my channel who posts a new insult every time I make a video. Maybe he thinks he’s being sexy. I don’t know. It’s pretty sad. When it comes to “negs” I’ve seen a lot of men voice the opinion that women who respond to negs are just trying to prove their worth to the man who just insulted them. Maybe that works with some (really shallow, insecure) women, but as an overall explanation for the success men have in playful insults, I think it’s pretty weak. I think the reason negging works so well is that men neg other men. Men who are friends tend to spare verbally. I think the reason for this behavior is that a healthy and intelligent brain can easily be displayed by verbal agility. If men spar verbally, they’re practicing skills that will help them display competence and intelligence not only to women but to other men, potential employers, community leaders, etc. So when a man gives a woman a playful insult (not in a scripted “red pill told me to do this to get laid” kind of way) it signals to many women that he feels relaxed around them. He’s playing with them in a way that is inherently masculine (which is attractive) and also friendly (because male friends play with each other in this way). Obviously, it doesn’t work with all women. And some men are being playful and fun (which is something I respond very positively to when my husband does it) while other men are being manipulative, degrading bastards (which works on drunk slutty girls in clubs, if you believe anything the Mystery Method says). If it’s not your thing, that’s okay. But it isn’t always an indication that a guy isn’t loving and compassionate. Hopefully all this makes sense.
@clayandputtyvideos1647
@clayandputtyvideos1647 4 года назад
@@oakleavesandonions771 Thank you so much for explaining. I really appreciate it. A little bit of teasing is ok because it means he likes me. But most men I encounter say Fat Boy to me and call me they or he. I perceive that as hostility. Many of them do the drive by insult and never come back. That is coward but I know they really just wanted to be cruel to a random person. When they keep coming back with the same insults then I know that they do want something from me I don't know what they want but they want something and often it turned out they wanted sexual interaction or even nudes that happened on Facebook a whole Lot with middle eastern men. Those men have absolutely zero compassion they see me as trash. It's very sad and hurtful. I'm going through a lot of pain right now last night I had a nervous breakdown.
@atheplummer
@atheplummer 3 года назад
@@clayandputtyvideos1647 You perceive it as hostility simply because you are ashamed of yourself, and the teasing (of which you put too much weight into because you call it bullying(How can you bully on the internet?)). Teasing doesn't necessarily mean he likes you, but rather he's 'testing' you to see if your worthy of being his friend. I suspect that you have some Gamma tendencies... and that's very unfortunate. I think one can change, but it's difficult to do. You'll never actually be an alpha, but you may be able to transform into a Sigma. Check out Vox Day's work on Gamma males, that may help a lot.
@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837
@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837 3 года назад
@@atheplummer Dude you took offense?
@atheplummer
@atheplummer 3 года назад
@@nickidaisyreddwoodd5837 Huh? Your comment makes no sense. R U sure your comment is directed at me?
@titaniumrubber8472
@titaniumrubber8472 4 года назад
When a women read, most of the time they confuse the meaning, some men do it to. To takle this they Have to understand five or more perspective. To get the real meaning. Hey women its not easy.
@kasparovthegodofwar
@kasparovthegodofwar 4 года назад
Exactly
@dieterdesmet8615
@dieterdesmet8615 4 года назад
Sorry, it’s not clear from your comments just how little competition anxiety you have. Have you read the nawalt chapter?
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
I've read about NAWALT. That's why I made the video with the chickens and the bell curve. The more I read about competition anxiety the more I find myself drawing a blank. Most of the behaviors in this book, I can trace back to my own behavior if I think about it long enough. Competition anxiety however... just doesn't seem to match up with anything I've done in life. No feelings of insecurity. No big moves I've made and no small, subtle moves either. I look for it in myself and it's just not there. And it seems like an uncontroversial enough thing (like, it wouldn't bother me if I had it, I just can't seem to find it) that I don't think I'm subconsciously avoiding acknowledging it. It just doesn't seem to be there. It's weird.
@VoiceOfThe
@VoiceOfThe 4 года назад
OakLeavesAndOnions When you and Rollo get together you need to discuss your stance on Competition Anxiety. Be really interesting. I think it’s a subconscious thing that you alluded to. It is there with you from your behaviour with your husband in my opinion. Your limbic brain is working back there without you being aware. Lol
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 4 года назад
Music - The Voice Of The Soul Maybe. I keep bringing it up because I don’t have any negative feelings surrounding it (so I’m more likely to be objective about it) and I still just can’t see it at all. So maybe I’m just not looking at it right. Or maybe it really isn’t there.
@dontmindmejustwatching
@dontmindmejustwatching 3 года назад
Why? Why are you giving away the game? Normally women would default to beta-advice to condition men to be more "properly" trained and waiting for them after party years. Even female dating coaches are messing with guy's heads. Why are you giving some things as it is?
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 3 года назад
I’m interested in understanding human sexuality. I don’t care if it’s brutal or ugly or unflattering. I care about the truth, and the truth isn’t colored over by pretty lies.
@dontmindmejustwatching
@dontmindmejustwatching 3 года назад
​@@oakleavesandonions771 Ok, but I always thought that it's hardwired not to reveal those moments. Even mothers won't tell anything their sons. Every single dating advice I would recieve from my mom, auntie, grandma, girls and women, it would always be around beta behaviour. Even relatives would set me up for a failor. Why are your revealing the game?? :)))
@oakleavesandonions771
@oakleavesandonions771 3 года назад
@@dontmindmejustwatching I think it’s not that women are hardwired not to reveal the game so much as that women have never considered what the game is. They’re fed the same bull crap growing up that men are, and they have twice as much reason to believe it. Blue pill for men- you suck, sacrifice everything for women. That’s not always gonna sit easy with men. Blue pill for women- you’re a wonderful princess, and you’re always right. Who’s gonna question that? It’s not human nature to question what we already want to believe. So you end up with women who are desperately dissatisfied with their sexual arrangements, secretly yearning for alpha behavior in romance novels, and still- Still!- insisting that what they really want are the beta behaviors they’ve been told they should desire. In the end, it makes everyone unhappy, men and women both.
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