Aberrant Mind Sorcerer in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything | Nerd Immersion 

Mind sliver with quicken spell into a spell that requires a saving throw seems like a big buff for sorcerers that no one's really talking about

Specialization is fun. Make it every sorc subclass. That way each feels special rather than "What's the best overall metamagic".

I really like the idea of all Sorcerers having a free Metamagic related to their origin. I also like a mix of the Aberrant & the Divine Sorcerer's extra spells: all Sorcerer subclasses should have either access to another class's spell list or all spells of a certain school.

Warping implosion could synergize well with quickened spell. Action teleport away, bonus action fireball the grouped up enemies.

So glad they returned to the eldritch alien theme rather than sticking with the generic psionic caster theme they turned it into during playtesting.

aberrant : subtle clockwork : extended divine : careful draconic : transmuted shadow : distant storm : empowered wild : roll for it (d10 with the possibility for twinned or quickened)

Warping Implosion + Delayed Blast Fireball = One happy sorcerer

I totally understand his stance on sorcerer spells known. I love the concept of sorcerers but hate the limited spell selection. Fortunately, my friends and I houserule bonus spells known based on origin. My wild magic sorcerer automatically learned polymorph and confusion upon reaching level 7, which has been really helpful. I recently built a small list for a phoenix sorcerer in a game I am DMing. Curious to see if he will twin cast that revivify spell.

I wish I had this on my Kalashtar instead of warlock.... but alas, I went with what was interesting story wise....

I love this subclass, I always wanted to explore the "peaceful" fungal folk of the Underdark, and this subclass looks like I can finally go wild!

Would love a rework for Sorcerer that gives all subclasses Origin Spells and a 6th level "Sorcery" feature like the Aberrant Mind's "Psionic Sorcery." A few ideas I had: If you're a Divine Soul Sorcerer, you could choose a Cleric Domain's spell list in place of your Origin spell list. Wild Magic Sorcerers may have Origin spells based on rolling/luck, or maybe they have to roll for them. Wild Magic's Sorcery feature could randomly change the damage type of spells you cast. If you're a Draconic Sorcerer perhaps there are different Origin spells based on your Draconic Heritage, and your Sorcery trait says that spells you cadt that deal the damage type of your Draconic Heritage ignore resistance to that damage type.

Ah finally "the caster cluster" here's where it gets good

Is it just me or do these artworks really favor tieflings?

I really love to play the sorcerer class but cannot play it effectively without taking two levels of warlock. This allows great cantrip damage with eldritch blast and you have two spell slots you regain on a short rest (and if you go Hexblade the AC of a tank). This allows my sorcerer to focus all of its spell slots towards buffs and lock-downs (Haste/Holds/Poly/etc..) which I use the meta-magic feats on.

my favorite is the twilight cleric. i loved the concept of it back when it was just a UA and the new one is just as good

Definitely a 6th level subclass feature, so they can apply the different metamagic to each subclass as you suggested.

Something else I like for sorcerer is you can roll one of your hit die during combat and regain sorcery points equal to number rolled, but you cannot use the hit die to regain hit points till after a long rest

I'm so hyped to see this channel bustling. Just a few days ago he hit 60k and now he's already at 62. Keep up the good work man!

happy thanksgiving ted! this is my favorite sorcerer too, finally another option to channel the far realm/eldritch and psionic themes into a campaign without being a warlock. and the additional psionic spells make me much more inclined to play this subclass :)

What I thought was awesome about the Psionic Sorcery feature was the part where your spells don't need material components not if they don't cost gold, but if the component isn't consumed. In other words, spells that require you go out and find a 1500 gp crystal ball, or odd things like that don't cost you that entry cost if you use your sorcery points

I think this is going to be the basis for the Sorcerer subclasses going forward, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an update to the existing subclasses to have something similar. I think that level 6 ability is great and should be applied in some way to every Sorcerer subclass. I think I'm going to homebrew them myself to be in line with this.

Totally agree about the sorcery spells for each class and the specific types of sorcery, been saying that for yrs

Sorcerers need a class or subclass feature between 6 and 14

The easy fix for Sorcerers... First assign a damage type (or possibly status effect) associated with each subclass based on it's theme. For example the Draconic subclass would have a choice based on your lineage fire, ice, electricity, acid, or poison. Divine Soul would be radiant. Storm would be electricity. Wild magic could make you roll for your type every time you wake up. Then add the below ability to all Sorcerers. If any spell, of any class, does damage of your damage type (or status effect) you know that spell if you have a spell slot of an appropriate level. These spells do not count against your total spells known and may not be traded for any other spell. If a spell can do damage of an element that is not your element you cannot learn it this way, save physical or force damage (meaning no Chromatic Orb and like). Finally you can add in the Aberrant Mind ability to use spell points to directly cast these spells. Sorcerers should have been specialists and Wizards should have been generalists but that's not the way Wotc made them. As it is Wizards have more access and can do more spells of your element than an elemental Sorcerer can. A Wizard's Arcane Recovery is better than Sorcerer's Flexible Casting and Wizards have choices and buffs not unlike Meta-magic options (they literary have the meta-magic careful spell if they want it). Yes overall Sorcerers can crank out more damage but they are still aren't the "font of magic" they are supposed to be. When someone has natural talent, like Sorcerers are supposed to have, you are more, not less likely to go into a career that benefits from it. Tall people play basketball, succeed, and having succeeded, play more, NOT LESS. Yet Sorcerers are supposed to not go into studying magic being content to "just do it" and live being ignorant about how it works, that makes no sense. Sorcerers should have been the specialists or savants. Extremely good at one thing but physically incapable of doing other things by their nature. That's what my change does, at least partially. It makes them the best X elemental magic user. By having all the spells of your element automatically you no longer have to pick and choose only the best ones while Wizards can have them all. With theme spells provided free it let's Sorcerers spend their spells known buying utility and function spells so they don't have to shaft their party to play a themed character.

The Aberrant Mind being able to cast spells through sorcery points without V, S, M components is an aspect of psionics from previous editions. I'm against spreading that or free metamagic out to all sorcerers. You just cheapen what makes psionics and the Aberrant Mind special. I'm all for giving every subclass of sorcerer more spells. 15 total spells known is too few. In fact, that is part of my homebrew campaigns. I give every sorcerer subclass 5 additional spells, one from each spell level from 1-5 that are thematic to their subclass. However, they are never able to replace these spells in order to learn new ones. They're stuck with those spells. But these are usually quite good spells for each subclass. I will be sticking to that rule because while Aberrant Minds get 2 spells per level and can replace the spells in a limited way, I'd like to keep that aspect of the feature unique to the AM and CS subclasses.

The Sorcerer has a lot of potential and is heavily centered on that Meta Magic. I really like the idea of the Favored Soul and find that to be a great healer that could be even better then others. I love the thought of Twinned Cure Wounds and Distant Healing Word. Sure, they have a small amount of spell to pick from but I feel it balances out well with their Meta Magic and class traits. I will agree that all Sorcerers should have a spell list as these two new subclasses do. The item about the 6th level feature sounds great to be a permanent feature of each subclass. Although when they run out of unique subclasses, repeats may be in order.

This and Simic Hybrid would be fun at level 14 would be fun, just being a total abomination

I think your suggestion should be a subclass feature, the next survey that comes out for a sorcerer subclass I'll make sure to put that down.

The implosion combines well with the flight and movement options of the previous feature.

I plan on taking a small dip of Fathomless with my Aberrant Mind so that I can be the ultimate Lovecraftian character!

I really like that idea for all Sorcerer Subclasses getting to cast spells with Sorcery Points and getting a little bonus because of it. Here are some ideas I just had off the top of my head for when a sorcerer casts a spell in this way: Draconic Sorcerer: You can to change the damage type of the spell to acid, cold, fire, lighting, thunder, or poison damage (Basically a free elemental/transmutive spell). If the spell does not already deal damage, you can deal 1d8 of acid, cold, fire, lightning, thunder, or poison damage to all of the creatures effected by that spell. Wild Magic: You can choose not to roll on the Wild Magic table after casting this spell. Divine Soul: You or another creature of your choice within 30 feet of you regains hit points equal to 1d8 x the number of Sorcery Points you spent to cast the spell. Shadow Sorcerer: You can cast the spell without any somatic or verbal components (Couldn’t come up with a better one that could apply to all spells). Storm Sorcerers: The fly speed you gain from your Tempestuous Magic feature (allows you to fly 10 feet without provoking opp. attacks) increases to 30 feet until the end of your turn. EDIT: Just realized Clockwork Soul doesn’t get this feature, so here’s one for them. Clockwork Soul: If the spell has a casting time of 1 action, you can change the casting time to 1 bonus action for this casting (Basically free quickened spell).

Actually, you could use the 18th level ability to vacuum everyone on the ground beneath you into the air and then they will fall down :D Pretty cool trick!

for draconic sorcerer you could give them the metamagic that allows them to change the elemental type of the spell

I feel like I'd love to play a sorcerer with the "spell points" optional rule in the DMG. The versatility feels very sorcerer to me

Thank you Ted, Happy thanksgiving and Keep up the great work

I think it would be fun to play an Aberrant Mind Sorcerer Changeling with proficiency with a Disguise and a good Deception Skill bonus. You could use Subtle Spell metamagic while in disguise to mess with people and they would not who was doing it. If you add the Telekinetic and Actor feats, then it becomes even more fun! I would roleplay them as needing to pull pranks to help cope with their madness!

The different sorcerer bloodlines never really grabbed me but these two are a delight.

agreed on your fix on Sorcerers by giving them freebie spells specific to subclass and something sorcery to give them freebie metamagic. I'm going to be playing an aberrant mind sorcerer in a one shot and pretty excited about it.

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At level 18 you can cast 3 9th level spells. You can become a genie with three wishes and become a warlocks pateron.

I like the idea you had for the free meta magic effect on certain spells and giving them a list of spells that you can use that ability for. I’ve never gone to the 20th level on sorcerers because that level 20 ability needs redesigning. I’d love to see an update where they get bloodline spells that work like cleric domain spells

My thoughts... Telepathic Speech: A telepathic communication ability that has unlimited usage and gets better as you progress? At first level? Yes please!!!! Psychic Sorcery: So all the spells from your new feature that you would want to use in combat anyways now can't be countered. That's bloody busted for a 6th level ability. Psychic Defenses: Makes sense thematically since your mind has been warped by the far realm, and extra resistances and immunities is always nice. Revelation in Flesh: Truesight, Fly, a limited Alter Self, and an improved version of Freedom of Movement for a single sorcery point each? Is there anything this subclass can't do? Warping Implosion: A 120ft teleport that does damage to anything hostile to you and gives a slight crowd control effect to it as well? This class has all kinds of stuff that should have been done from the get go on the sorcerer. Final thoughts: This subclass should have been the guiding principal of WOTC back in 2014 when 5e launched, it's got good thematic abilities that are useful in and out of combat, it can be as flexible as it wants with how it uses spells and puzzles. It's got good exploration tools and more. I hope to see more subclasses like this in the future.

I think as an errata they could say that whoever you are using telepathic speech with doesnt get affected by the warping implosion. Kinda like you are telling them you are going to do it or at least give them advantage on the saving throw.

I like the idea that all sorcerer origins can cast their origin spells with sorcerer points as well as switching them out with certain spell schools of other classes spell lists. But the coolest thing that I never took in was it is basically like getting a free metamagic with the spell. The draconic soul could be able to switch out for warlock/wizard evocation and abjuration spells and get the empowered spell meta magic with it The wild magic could be able to switch out for warlock/wizard enchantment and transmutation spells and get the quickend spell meta magic with it The shadow could be able to switch out for warlock/wizard illusion and necromancey spells and get the extended spell meta magic with it The storm could be able to switch out for warlock/wizard evocation and abjuration spells and get the transmuted spell meta magic with it The favored soul already has access to the entire cleric spell list so they don't need to change anything out but they could get the distance spell meta magic for them

I like the idea of having that as a six level ability for base. The only two spells I can think that would would be great for the draconic sorcerer is chromatic orb and dragon's breath, because that allows you to choose a damage type.

Bring. In. The. Thri-Kreen!

So in the campaign I'm in, my main character will be leaving for an extended period of time for story purposes. In the mean time, I rolled up a new character at level 8 and Tasha's having just dropped I went Abberant Mind Sorcerer 5 levels with a Great Old One Warlock 3 levels. I made a really cool backstory where my Tiefling character was captured by Mind Flayers and implanted with a tadpole. The ceramorphosis didn't take and the tadpole made a deal with my character to allow it's consciousness to exists within his subconscious and gain it's abilities. My character agrees and during the transition, his consciousness is flung out of his body and passes through the Elder Brain before it gets jettisoned into the Far Realm. There is where he encounters Great Cthulhu and after being mind raped, a deal is struck to gain more power, escape his holding cell in the Mind Flayer den, and all he has to do is serve the dark lord. Again, the character agrees with little choice in the matter. He goes back into his body and takes a back seat as he watched his body being controlled by Cthulhu, decimate the hive and kill everything within site. It sets the character onto a journey where his sanity is constantly being tested by the tadpole in his subconscious and the great old one's eldritch powers darkening his mind. He will eventually slip into madness and the Abberant Mind and Goolock multiclass just felt so natural. All of the tentacles, darkness, and mind assaults felt very Call of Cthulhu and I just couldn't resist such an amazing build with a great opportunity for role-playing into the set up for a villain. My DM has already cleared it and is set to abuse it when my main comes back. I am so excited about Monday's session... hehe

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the xxxx sorcery - definitely subclass feature. Gives more flavour to your origin.

I think that sorcerer is one of may favorite classes in 5E but i have a tendency to take ritual book wizard to off set the spell slots. I tend to go one attack spell per level and utility the rest. But also I look at the as a savant of magic not a studied sage wizard. It is just focus on what you want to do and don't worry about the rest. I personly like how the lack of Divination in general makes Wizard and Sorcerer feel so diffant

Calm Emotions is immediately getting swapped out for Tasha's Mind Whip.

Sorcerers should definitely get a list of spells known! The class is shit on way too much

I'd say something for every subclass to make them unique and not conflict with this latest subclass. That's usually how WotC addresses issues moving forward. As far as you rewriting old ones, I like Treantmonk's idea of Eschew Components as a Sorcerer feature, so regardless of individual subclass effect, they should all be able to disregard material components when casting with SP. It'd be pretty nice for say Draconic Sorcerers to be casting Chromatic Orb without having to find a diamond first.

I really like your idea for the new way of casting of sorcery points. If you added origin spells to all subclasses, it would also solve the issue with the number of spells known. But the sorcerer really needs a way to regain some sorcery points on a short rest, like the wizard can regains some spell slots.

My party is in a den of Mind Flayers and I literally looked into a cauldron full of tadpoles so I’m wanting to multiclass into the Aberrant Mind Sorceror bc it looks fun to go go with my Arcane Trickster Rogue. Basically one of the tadpoles hopped into my head, our cleric did use Spirit Guardians to kill every tadpole instantly so now I have a dead tadpole in my head with wonderful psionic powers ripe for the taking. Also Subtle spell will be fun in social situations with my Rogue

Step 1: Give all sorcerer subclasses bonus spells. Step 2: Give those subclasses a freebie metamagic for those spells related to the Sorcerous Origin like you said.

for the 18th level ability they should have it so you can choose to bring people with you but for each person you bring you loose 20-30 ft of distance on the teleport

The friendly fire of warping implosion isn’t as big a deal as you may think because you can move before you use it, and you’ll usually have at least 30 feet of movement.

Something I thought would be a cool change for Sorc, was to make them Constitution casters. I dont think there would be any real harm in it. Also, i agree that sorcs should be able to just burn sorc points instead of having to bonus action convert the point to a slot first.

On your idea of giving each of the sorcerer subclasses their own spell list and the ability to use sorcery points to cast them. The "free" metamagic for Draconic sorcerers could be the new transmute spell, but only to their bloodline type. This could lead to more options on the list that may not be as thematic in their base form. Fireball as a Frostball for a Cold Dragonic Sorcerer is something I see homebrewed a lot, and yes the metamagic they added allows it, but it prevents you from using other metamagic on the spell and is almost a tax on you for playing the "suboptimal" bloodline. An alternative version to this would be giving all the different draconic bloodlines their own spell list, which would be very difficult to balance if they give them the option to swap them out like they did for the Tasha subclasses. Interested to hear your thoughts in that video as an avid draconic sorcerer fanboy.

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I play a storm sorcerer and my DM gave me the extra spells from the Waterborne Adventurers UA. I think they should errata a spell list into every sorcerer subclass. A 6th lvl ability like Psionic sorcery for every sorcerer is needless power creep though.

I am an absolute Sorcerer fan. And I ignore UA. This doesn't wow me personally, but looks fun enough. I will be playing, but only because I play all sorcerer subclasses. Also the lvl 6 ability is better than subtle spell. Subtle doesn't touch Material components in any way. I feel possibly broken. To Ted's points I think he needs to actually play a sorcerer myself, but I get that his playing time is limited. I will say I feel sorcerers needs maybe three to five total spells to their known spells, so I'm not pushed to considering one lvl MC dips. So to me this is too many extra spells. I think the class should be the full caster class with the fewest spells known/preped. But 15 is too few. I will say this subclass is inline with an Alhoon concept. So ill applaud that. Also I play really good support sorcerers all the time. Sorceres do need to pick a task and kind of stick with it, but damager isn't their only build.

i agree about the limited spell slots making sorcerers stuck in damage mode. compared to other casters they do not have much variety, with the exception of wild magic sorcerers

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I love how you don't need the 300GP gold item to cast Summon Aberration

9:12 should be a subclass feature that every sorcerer subclass has a unique version of. I.e diffrent free metamagics.

I like the idea of swapping a spell out for Bless, but I don't know how that would fit, roleplay-wise

The picture of the tiefling makes me think of Jojo's Bizarre Adventures

Best class in the book! Love the flavour!

I don't understand why rangers have spells known, instead of prepared spells. The other 2 half casting classes, the artificer and paladin are prepared based spellcasting.

I really wish you could take people and creatures with you, including enemies. If you could I could see you teleporting all your enemies over a chasm and flying away.

I'm thankful for my copy of Tasha's. Lol. My Amazon order got delayed to December, so I cancelled it and placed it at Walmart which was supposed to ship on the 20th... It got delayed too so I cancelled. I went to a Target near me and it had ONE copy that I got yesterday.

Yeah! Go Ted!

I love the Aberant Mind sorcerer. It's just chock full of flavor. The next character I play will probably be a kenku aberant mind sorcerer.

free metamagic based on the subclass would be cool, draconic could use transmute spell and would be able to add the cha mod regardless of the damage type

Every sorcerer subclass should get a different meta-magic option tied to the subclass spells (i.e. maybe a wild sorcerer gets empowered equivalent at 6th level)

For the 18th level ability I'm wondering whether or not you could jump off a cliff and then teleport...

@nerd immersion I have already created a list of "domain spells" for all the older sorcerer subclasses. If you want to see it as a basis for your new video let me know and I can send it to you.

I agree with you its a great class. Sorcerers have become very powerful.

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I love aberrant minds so much. I've wanted to play a sorcerer for so long but they all just sounded boring to me flavor wise. I was so bummed that the UA aberrant mind got rewritten into psionic soul and when I found out they got in for Tasha's I bought the book just for this subclass. I've been complaining for forever that 5e doesnt have enough eldritch stuff and I'm so happy to see Tasha's deliver tons of aberrant stuff. (I still want an aberrant familiar for my warlock tho)

Quick question I'm hoping to get some voices on. The psionic spells feature includes several spells that are neither enchantment nor divination. If you were to drop those spells for warlock/sorcerer/wizard spell of those schools... Would you be able to pick it up again at a later stage as a Psionic spell? Also how does this effect spells known?

Maybe just say that if they cast the spell from their list using sorcery points then they can activate one of their meta magics without expending an additional ki point cost.

What would be your top 10 favorite subclasses in Tashas

Hey Ted! I am pro-base class feature. I can't wait to see your video on the subject!

I think it should be a base class feature

Excellent video dude, love this new subclass. Which divination/enchantment spells on the wizard/warlock/sorcerer list stand out as good choices to swap out your psionic spells for?

Giving sorcerer more spells is a problem cause of the way it is designed. Sorcerer trades versatility for power in the form of metamagic. You have fewer spells but can cast them in ways no one can, not even the wizard. One of the core aspects of the subclass design they followed up until now was to NOT give more spells to the class, because it will break the balance, or at most to give them just a few (Divine, Shadow Sorcerer) which already caused some turmoil in the community. These new subclasses not only shit on the core balance concept of the class but also on the old subclasses that are now vastly inferior to this new ones. Maybe the class needed a bit more spells but not 11 more and for sure not throughout 2 specific subclasses.

Is there a reference to where the aberrant mind sorcerer is connected to the psionic soul sorcerer?

Hey Ted, what is your opinion if you are a sorcerer and you take the new feat Metamagic Adept. Would this make it so you get another 2 more metamagic options? Example if your say you turned level 8 and took this as a feat.

The warping implosion seems very underpowered for the level. I mean 120ft tele is fine but 3d10? I mean your on level 14 and this is your big button.

Do you think we'll get the banerette fightet back?

To be honest the sorcerer doesnt need to be a wizard. You dont have to play it always choosing the damaging apells. Thats why they have more cantrips than most casters. Pick 3 damaging cantrips and probably 4 spells for damage and the rest can be for buff, debuff or control, and with quickened, twinned, carefull or extended you can have an easy battle. And with the new feat "metamagic adept", you can have 2 more points and 2 more options for metamagic

Happy thanksgiving Ted!

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Isn't Aberrant Mind and Psionic Soul are different subclasses?

If I pick Hold Monster with the psionic spells feature, can I upcast it to 7th lvl and cast it with 7 sorcery points? Its just an example, because I really think its amazing

I'd make it a archetype feature personal, otherwise though, you might make it an optional Class Feature that replaces the normal 6th level class feature. Also, I'd like to have seen the the Aberrant Mind sorcerer granted access to the same psi die feature as the Psi Knight and Psi Blade archetypes. I'd have allowed a sorcerer to creature a psi die (no action required) of a level appropriate size. These dice would be used to power an Aberrant Mind's Psionic spell abilities. I am hoping to see a full mystic class based on psi dice.