ABSOLUTELY TRAGIC! " PRIMARCH FULGRIM " | REACTION | Warhammer 40K 

He truly is🤍

​​@@TwentyTwoHya Told you so! 😂

Yeee. For me him and the "Amber King" rules + Liuten is on leader spot. Bot those two are having best narration content ever.

@@dariusfafoutakis8021 You did!!

I would argue that when it comes to Space Marines Baldermort is definitely a go to for truly understanding each legion, but if your talking 40k lore in general I believe Luetin09 has that covered far more then most channels and in much greater detail.

except perturabo, he a bitch

I hope it was worth it as well😭😭

Yeah I have siblings. I could never imagine turning against and cutting down my own brother. I'd probably react much like Fulgrim did and ask for oblivion.

I would love to see the remorseful and loyalist clone come back, but I've never heard of ANYONE or ANYTHING escaping Solemnus where Trazyn has everything in stasis fields. there's been instances of the fields losing power, but nothing has ever left the planet without his permission, or the ability to teleport to another planet like Orikaan can.

@@MrHellsing76 yeah, I was just hoping Tazryn might bring him back for some huge endgame scenario.

​@@chadwhitfield6946maybe a trade. For the king in yellow? Or a norn queen?

@@chadwhitfield6946 I think Clone Fulgrim would have to kill daemon-primarch Fulgrim to regain his full power

I definitely have them both on my list!

@@TwentyTwoHya Give Oculus Imperia a look. You won't be disapointed.

Gotta give arch his credit too, he's got videos on lore none of the rest have touched at all. Plus his war for badab was a masterpiece

Nightlords first tho! It's short and thoroughly chilling

I'm reading salamanders now. It's very very average. lol. I want the salamanders to be my favorite, i like their primarch a lot, but everyone is stealing their gimmick of being the one that cares about humans. Blood Angels, White Scars, Space wolves, Lamenters, ect.

​@Lazrael32 but none cares AS MUCH as the salamanders. None CAN, because they do not see humanity reflected in the eyes of their nieces nephews and siblings in the hearth of their own familial home. None see the joy that sparks them to greater deeds, experience the hug of a body so small their forearm is the little ones entire wingspan. That's the fire the salamanders carry out to the stars: the gentleness. The sight that they wish to see at their home is the one they pursue for every civilian they save. A home. Not a hab block. Not a hive city or feudal worlds continent. A home. They are the marines for personal salvation.

@@wiccanthropy1956 i dunno man when you have to have the marines malevolent rescue you because you almost got your company killed trying to save a clearly dangerous magus i don't think your goodwill is well balanced. So many other chapters are able to effectively value human life and protect the empire. The Salamanders fault is that they allow it to weaken them. even their Successor chapter the black dragons wanted to save a world's people but were able to recognize once it had become futile and allow exterminatus. It's cool that you like the salamanders for the reasons that you do, but other chapters are able to recognize that humans are the imperium and that they need to protect them without making it their sole defining trait (really a gw problem).

Lol was the screaming, sculpting and Eidolon bits before or after he was turned? I can't imagine it being before, right?

@@ironduke5058 Eidolon in "Fulgrim" was very alive and typical but Fabius essentially tricked him into accepting xenos organs that Fabius had grown using samples taken from Laeron. So yeah he was already a bit of a freak when he died, made more so for being Frankenstein'd back to life

tbf it's good that the Man of Iron decided to hide in their legion rather than just start killing them off

Dude no way that was a coincidence. You're awesome for that

Fulgrim himself was only able to be influenced because he made direct physical contact with a demon, otherwise his mind would not have been effected as he did not have knowledge of chaos.

And Fulgrim acted like a carrier for the corruption to spread to his legion .

"Ferrus,no" 😢

I am of the opinion that chaos fulgrim is fulgrim's soul merged with the demon in the blade. So he is a very different character. he certainly isn't the person at the end of the video. you can hardly see that person inside. Such bad writing in a way because up to this point fulgrim had the most interesting chaos story. It's why i like Huron and the Red Corsairs story. You really understand why they fell to chaos and it wasn't just on a whim.

@@Lazrael32 Yeah I think "The reflection crack'd" was just a collective "Wait what?" moment for everyone reading it. And during Angel Exterminatus it felt on one hand not at all like Fulgrim because of how much he mocked Ferrus but on the other hand it feels so much like Fulgrim to shout from the rooftops about how you are the only primarch to have killed another primarch. After all he was known for being a braggart. Then again I think the character arc for imperial Fulgrim did feel wrapped up during the dialogue with Delafour where he whole heartedly rejected that imperfection could be beautiful which in my interpretation at least is a metaphor for Fulgrim being unable to ever overcome his inferiority complex. So idk where else that character could go. So I think using Chaos to take the character in a new direction worked quite well and the character at least for me stayed quite enjoyable even though it is a different character.

That's funny as Perturabo is my second favorite along with his legion.

The lord of iron is for me the most interesting, understandable and relatable primarch.

Forever the 2nd favorite...poor Fulgrim

Thank you that is something that I definitely have too watch!!

Stop making me like the IIIrd, you're making them sound too cool

I love the IIIrd Legion. They're my favourite Pre-traitor Legion from all the traitors, post Heresy they change alot. I love their colour scheme, their champions and their sense of style. But what I love most is just how perfectly they represent how far you can fall when you turn to Chaos. While there were exceptions to this such as Saul Tarvitz, the Pre-Heresy Emperor's Children were considered especially proud and presumptive. Their command staff, like Eidolon, were notorious for treating other Legions like dung on their boot heel. Part of that may be the influence of their Geneseed and flat our arrogance, or maybe from the fact that from Terra at least the recruits would come from nobility. But it is also rooted in an uncomfortable *fact* that alot of IIIrd haters really like to ignore: *They were really, really good* And not just at Siege tactics, or melee, or asymmetrical warfare or any other "specialisation" that characterised all other Legions. They were good at EVERYTHING they did. The best? No, unless you ask them (which was part of the problem). Were they better than say the Imperial Fists at defensive operations? No, but they were closer to the Fists than almost every other Legion in that regard. And they were that same way with practically *everything* that they did. They were constantly nipping and running right on the tail of every other Legion, constantly reminding them that if they didn't stay on top of their game they'd lose their spot at "INSERT TACTIC HERE." Honestly they were like specialised Ultramarines in that sense and I honestly believe they'd be considered the best Legion had they had the same or even similar numbers as the XIIIth Their whole thing was that they were obsessive perfectionists, and especially after Fulgrim got involved. He inhereted a Legion of less than 200 men Vith, can you imagine that? Less than 200. Many might see it as a curse but Fulgrim saw it for what it was, a blessing in disguise. Fulgrim was the ONLY Primarch who got to build his Legion from the very ground up, he molded his Legion into his own perfection with nearly no obstacles like ingrained legion culture or a stagnant status quo to stop him. He personally trained and drilled his men and as you heard even the human Solar Auxiliary with him, so in that sense the IIIrd was the Legion that was closest to their Primarch in ability. That type of culture spread because when new recruits entered the IIIrd, they didn't find Veterans who now had to adjust to the rule of their Primarch like every other Legion, they came into a Legion that run like a well oiled machine. I'm not sure if you comprehend how big of an effect having basically mini Primarchs building a Legion can have, seeing as Fulgrim surely mentored each of them. The damn recruits they spat out was essentially equivalent to a Sergeant of any other Legion in combat prowess. And so can you imagine that? You're so few that you can sleep with your Primarch, eat with him, go on the morning run with him, go to the gun range together, recite poetry to one another, discuss philosophy, get tutored on insane tactics and just see how he carries himself. The breed of Astartes that would create is absolutely astounding and that's why the whole Legion ended up becoming like that, even when it became big and Fulgrim had a less of a presence. That's why failure in any aspect would spur them to ensure it never happened again. In some cases even, failure pushed individuals to become pre-eminent experts in a particular field. Everyone points to how Lucius lost to Loken in their mock duel, but practically no one points to how Loken realises that he could never beat him a 2nd time after seeing his improvement due to the loss. Imagine that? Your Legion is know for being best at TACTIC, but there's this one fuckin' guy in the IIIrd that's just as good at "TACTIC" as all your guys, if not just out right better at it. Yeah maybe it's only one guy, but he's there. I imagine that's a tough pill for transhuman war machines who specialise in one thing to swallow. And Post-Heresy? Oh man. Their focus on perfectionism, condensed into a singularity of perversion and excess. Many of the other Legions that fell still retain a purpose that drives them and for them, that purpose was made more. More than ever, the Thousand Sons want to delve into the mysteries of the Warp and pursue hidden knowledge and due to Tzeentch, are now more psychically powerful than ever. The Death Guard want to spread Nurgle's gift all over the universe and their already present resilience has only been multiplied ten fold by the blessings of the Grandfather. Even the World Eaters, in all their anger and rage became more, finally becoming the true Berserkers and ultimate warriors they always wanted to be with the hand of Khorne pushing them forward. But the IIIrd? What did they become, more perfect? They don't have any goals besides experiencing more sensations, everything and everyone else be damned. Slaneesh exposed them to so many pleasures that their warrior conditioning and iron-clad discipline denied them, and they became as obsessed with that as they were with being perfect warriors. And that's one of the most tragic aspects about them. When their focus on self improvement was overriden by and replaced by their compulsion for self indulgence, they lost the very thing that made them such an absolute powerhouse during the Great Crusade. And after the Heresy it got even worse for the once might IIIrd. Their constant need for new slaves and flesh toys led them to begin attacking other legions, which directly resulted in the Legion Wars of the traitors and which shattered the last bit of unity the Emperor's Children had. Of all the traitor Legions, their fall was the furthest, swiftest, most unexpected and of all else, the most needless. Once they were the Emperor's most devoted servants, to the point he gave them the Palatine Aquila, his personal Sigil, to wear on their armour as a mark of his high esteem of them. I tell you Vith no other Legion attained such a glorious honour, not even Horus and his Luna Wolves. And now look at them, a Legion of craven animals and crazed lunatics. And people wonder why the Emperor might've thought it a good idea to keep Chaos quiet? By the Throne, look what they have taken from us, look what they have done. Oh how the mighty have fallen...

Ignore me lol, this comment is so good that I basically rewrote it so that I can come copy and paste it any time I need to. You genuinely made me an Emperor's Children fan, you wrote this so well

34?

Also pretty sure Bile has or had a female version of his gene father.

@@beneficent2557 lol, could be rule34 too - rule63 is gender-switching

@@HistoritorJimaldus Pretty sure its all Heretical.

She just watched Leutin on the emperor though… what about Baldermort on the warp and the nature of chaos?

Thank you 🤍

Fulgrim was influenced heavily by his apothecary who happens to be the best and brightest one in the entire emporium. I just can't remember his name right now... .... Apothecary is definitely a renegade and was deep into mixing xenos with Legion studies way before fulgrim even knew The extent. I just can't remember the guy's name right now but he's a major player in all of the heresy series books mostly

@@TylerDBrett Fabius Bile, was influenced by Fulgrims mentality, of finding perfection. Make no mistake, Fulgrim had many cool stories but he was an egoist who strongly influenced his marines toward "perfection."

@@hyenascar absolutely

I don't like that piece of lore, that isn't Fulgrim. Fulgrim is the one who let go after he saw what he did on Istvaan so it wouldn't make sense he'd just accept Slaneesh, that's why it makes more sense that his spirit went into Clonegrim. Clonegrim is loyal,true and regretful. If that's not his true soul, then where did it come from?

@@ironduke5058 so i dont want to poop on your party, cause if you truly like the character you should like the character and more power to you. As for character development and psychology and why i think it would make sense, is something i have personally dealt with. When you have almost doggedly pushed a belief/ a way of being and are forcibly stopped it can be freeing. Almost like a drug. Which in every sense fits him. The clone is a good question. I personally would love to see more about him, but highly doubt it will see much more attention. Between the clone and him it brings forth how many possibilites of exterior forces shaping our personalities. It also bring up the diverse dichotomy of each human individual personality. Could imagine a series where clone tried to chase down demon. The incredible story telling that could be told.